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Re: 2018.1.1 out yet?

Chris
 

ok I’m not doubting your install of nvda cant find any update

But that doesn’t mean their isn’t one

 

 

I just booted up my other laptop which i haven’t used for some time and the first thing i got was a update to nvda 18.1.1

 

And joseph did make a announcement for this release but probably went under the radar for most i guess as it mostly refers to the spring release of win10

 

 

 

 

From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 13:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

Chris

 

Sorry but I have always obtained my updates over the update function and that function still says NVDA 2018.1 is the latest version. I have checked again one minute ago.

I have no firewall or other security system preventing it to download.

Indeed I have checked the website and the version has come out you were right but is not implemented in the nvda update function under the help menu.

Regards

Davy

 

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false statements

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

 

 

From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

No it is not!

 

From: Sam Taylor

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

 

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Re: getting the professional version of station playlist studio registered

Tony Ballou
 

Hey Armando,


Thanks, I'll try that and see if it works.


Tony

On 3/31/2018 2:41 AM, Armando Maldonado wrote:
Hello, I do suggest what Joseph said but if you must know, Station
name is basically your first and last name, unless you registered it
as whatever your station name is when purchasing.
armando
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Ballou"
<cyberpro224@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] getting the professional version of station playlist
studio registered


Hi folks,


I purchased station playlist studio and I can't seem to get it
registered I know that you type in the serial number, and the 20 digit
code, but I have having trouble with the station name. No matter what i
type in there I get an error something about an invalid value and to
press escape to which sends me back to the registration screen from that
point that invalid value error message comes up every time I tab around
the screen. .What should the proper syntax be for the station name?
Hopefully one of you listers can help me sort this out. Tony







accessible screen recorder?

 

I'm looking for a screen recorder that can capture sound card audio as well. Open source would be the best, but as long as it works with NVDA I am willing to shell out a few bucks. I tried Cam Studio in the portable apps suit but it could not capture sound card audio at the same time as capturing Microphone audio. Any suggestions?


Re: getting the professional version of station playlist studio registered

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Joseph,


I got the standard version. Believe me I did my research before making
the buy. I don't need to have all of the bells and whistles for what I'm
going to be doing with the program.  I'm mainly going to be doing D J
type stuff.


Tony

On 3/31/2018 2:06 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Wait, before we continue with this: are you a broadcaster intending to use SPL Studio, or did you buy it because people told you about it? If you are NOT a broadcaster, then please contact StationPlaylist developer (Ross Levis, who is not a member of this list)for chance for a refund, because SPL Studio Pro costs 250 dollars or so. If however, you are indeed a broadcaster, then you need to put in the station name in a plain text format.
An important reminder: just because I or other add-on authors are asking for feedback should not be a reason to purchase expensive software unless you really have to. This is why I did say in the original message I sent a few days ago that I'm seeking feedback from SPL users. At this point, I'm half-tempted to never again ask for feedback on the SPL add-on from this list because someone might purchase an expensive software without being educated as to what it is and its purpose, or for that matter, if one is actually not broadcasting or plan not to use this software as a broadcaster. But given that we have broadcasters on this list who do use this software and the add-on for it, and because not all of them are part of the NVDA-SPL list, I'll ask for wider feedback from time to time but with an important change: I will accept feedback only from broadcasters and other users who are actual users of StationPlaylist Studio, or is interested in using it for broadcasting purposes.
For future reference, the subscription info for NVDA-SPL list is:
nvda-spl+subscribe@nvda-spl.groups.io
Another thing to note: StationPlaylist Studio add-on follows continuous delivery model - same principle as Windows 10 App Essentials add-on. As such, you'll see tons of messages about snapshots (two snapshot levels) on the NVDA-SPL list. Most snapshots are stable, but occasionally an alpha-level build may not work all the way or is filled with experimental features.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] getting the professional version of station playlist studio registered

Hi folks,


I purchased station playlist studio and I can't seem to get it registered I know that you type in the serial number, and the 20 digit code, but I have having trouble with the station name. No matter what i type in there I get an error something about an invalid value and to press escape to which sends me back to the registration screen from that point that invalid value error message comes up every time I tab around the screen. .What should the proper syntax be for the station name? Hopefully one of you listers can help me sort this out. Tony








Re: windows live mial 2015

Richard Kuzma
 

Thanks,

I would greatly appreciate the link for the 2015 version, can t seem to find it anywhere else.

Thanks so much

Rich

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 8:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows live mial 2015

 

I just checked on my Windows 7 machine, which is running a ribbon version.  It is one of the build 2015 series and that build is a ribbon version.  There are different versions in a build.  If you want the 2015 version I have a link for, I can send the link.  But let's be sure if you want a menu or ribbon version, as I said.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:56 PM

Subject: [nvda] windows live mial 2015

 

Wondering if anyone has a copy of windows live mail 2015.

I was just told by Microsoft that is was in existence but no longer supported and therefor not available for download from them.

Thyanks so much.

Rich

 


windows live mail for jean please

Richard Kuzma
 

Yes, I will take the link for the 2015 version you have please and thank you.

Rich

 


Re: 2018.1.1 out yet?

Brian's Mail list account
 

Look at this.

INFO - __main__ (13:51:31.608):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (13:51:31.687):
Config dir: C:\nvda full release\userConfig
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:51:31.687):
Loading config: .\userConfig\nvda.ini
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:51:31.703):
Config loaded (after upgrade, and in the state it will be used by NVDA):
{u'schemaVersion': u'2', u'upgrade': {}, u'update': {u'autoCheck': u'True'}, u'general': {u'language': u'Windows', u'saveConfigurationOnExit': u'True', u'askToExit': u'False', u'playStartAndExitSounds': u'True', u'loggingLevel': u'DEBUG', u'showWelcomeDialogAtStartup': u'False'}, u'speech': {u'synth': u'speechPlayerInEspeak', u'outputDevice': u'Microsoft Sound Mapper', u'espeak': {u'voice': u'en', u'variant': u'quincy', u'rate': u'40', u'pitch': u'40', u'inflection': u'75', u'volume': u'87', u'capPitchChange': u'36'}, u'mssp': {u'voice': u'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech Server\\v11.0\\Voices\\Tokens\\TTS_MS_en-GB_Hazel_11.0', u'volume': u'94', u'rate': u'60'}, u'sapi5': {u'voice': u'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech\\Voices\\Tokens\\ScanSoftDaniel_Full_22kHz', u'volume': u'88', u'rate': u'60'}, u'sapi4': {u'voice': u'{BF5EAD40-9F65-11CF-8FC8-0020AF14F271}', u'rate': u'57', u'pitch': u'20', u'volume': u'50'}, u'dectalk': {u'voice': u'Dennis', u'rate': u'50', u'pitch': u'17', u'inflection': u'40'}, u'speechPlayerInEspeak': {u'voice': u'en', u'variant': u'quincy', u'rate': u'46', u'pitch': u'40', u'inflection': u'75', u'volume': u'88'}, u'pico': {u'voice': u'en-gb', u'volume': u'73', u'rate': u'54'}}, u'braille': {u'noBraille': {u'port': u''}}, u'mouse': {u'reportObjectRoleOnMouseEnter': u'True'}, u'presentation': {u'reportTooltips': u'True', u'guessObjectPositionInformationWhenUnavailable': u'True', u'progressBarUpdates': {u'progressBarOutputMode': u'both'}}, u'virtualBuffers': {u'autoPassThroughOnCaretMove': u'True', u'autoPassThroughOnFocusChange': u'True'}, u'documentFormatting': {u'reportAlignment': u'True', u'reportSpellingErrors': u'False', u'reportLineIndentation': u'True', u'reportBlockQuotes': u'False', u'autoLanguageSwitching': u'True'}}
DEBUG - core.main (13:51:31.733):
setting language to Windows
INFO - core.main (13:51:31.733):
NVDA version 2018.1
INFO - core.main (13:51:31.733):
Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation
INFO - core.main (13:51:31.733):
Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (13:51:31.733):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
DEBUG - core.main (13:51:31.733):

snip
of the usual stuff add ons and other config bits.


IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:52:05.302):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (13:52:05.351):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Check for update... c 9 of 10']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:52:06.461):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:52:07.283):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 473, in main
File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 529, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 37, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 339, in accessibleObjectFromEvent
File "oleacc.pyo", line 240, in AccessibleObjectFromEvent

DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (13:52:07.361):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (13:52:07.362):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (13:52:07.401):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Checking for Update dialog Checking for update']
IO - tones.beep (13:52:07.469):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (13:52:07.474):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Please wait']
IO - tones.beep (13:52:07.591):
Beep at pitch 110.0, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (13:52:07.596):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'0 percent']
IO - tones.beep (13:52:07.937):
Beep at pitch 1760, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (13:52:07.973):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'NVDA Update dialog No update available.']
IO - speech.speak (13:52:07.987):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Close button Alt+c']
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (13:52:07.993):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:52:11.365):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
IO - speech.speak (13:52:11.430):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u"Is it or isn't it out?"]
IO - speech.speak (13:52:11.536):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'document editable']
IO - speech.speak (13:52:11.545):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'space', u'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:52:15.605):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r

Whis is my shortcut to close and load thelog into notepad then reboot.

So, I've actually sent mick an email as although it will make no difference to me, if auto update is broken on portable versions, this might be an issue.
Brian
Brian


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


Hey Brian,

Odd that you did not receive an automatic update. You can download from
https://www.nvaccess.org/download/nvda/releases/2018.1.1/nvda_2018.1.1.exe

Cheers

Sam


On 31/03/2018 22:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well not according to the auto update on 2018.1, no it has not, as I
just tested it to see if it had any updates pending.
Only the RC had the update which i have.
brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.


On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the
rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention
it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Re: 2018.1.1 out yet?

Davy Cuppens
 

Brian is right again, I have just rebooted NVDA and forced it too, no update available; maybe this update is not for Europe? grin.

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 2:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

Just tested it and forced it to look. No update available. If I install an
rc however, that updates to 2018.1.1rc2.
So I'll leave this with all you Hexperterts while i just go and glue my
hair back in again.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


Hi Davy,


I have 2018.1.1 and it was installed yesterday. That's what it says in
my help/about box for NVDA.



On 3/31/2018 6:44 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
No it is not!
*From:* Sam Taylor <mailto:samtaylor9@...>
*Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the
rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd
mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Re: 2018.1.1 out yet?

Davy Cuppens
 

Brian

I am sceptic too and will wait with the update until it appears in the update functionality of NVDA.
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 2:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

The fact is that i have 2018.1, and have forced it to look for updates this
morning and its saying no update available, so how do you explain this? Its
no personal slight, its the fact that obviously something is screwy here.
Could it be that its only offering the update to the users running windows
10?
Seems a little odd as windows 7 does not have these voices so it would make
no difference one way or the other!
Maybe some of us are in a parralell universe? :-)

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


Thank you Chris.

I mean, honestly, when you write attempting to confirm something in good
faith, you would think that people would check the website, check for
updates, check in-process, before blindly disputing what somebody has
spent time to send. Honestly, people, do have a little common sense.


On 31/03/2018 21:19, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false
statements

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

*From: *Davy Cuppens <mailto:davycuppens@...>
*Sent: *31 March 2018 11:48
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

No it is not!

*From:*Sam Taylor <mailto:samtaylor9@...>

*Sent:*Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about
the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my
dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd
mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Re: 2018.1.1 out yet?

Davy Cuppens
 

Brian

Thank you very much for your support, it may be rude of stupid of me to simply say no it is not but as you already said, no statements were made and even people be aware that many many people do not read on support forum lists so that most of the blind community is still considering 2018.1 as the latest version.
Regards
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 2:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

And the actual fact is, nobody has posted anything here even about the rc
being around as far as I can tell.
its not really sufficient to post anything to the web site without adding
something to the user list so people are alerted. The old catch 22, if you
are not aware an update is planned, you do not know to go look for it, and
you don't know because most users with the release version are not going to
get any indication that the RC2 is out are they?
Seems sensible to me that an autoposter as we used to see in the old days
of Usenet might be a good thing for nvaccess to invoke any time they want to
alert the users of this list to a new test version that has just the
changes mentioned in the in process article, ie the fix for the sample rate
change in windows 10.

is it just me that sees the logic in this?

Brian

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From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false
statements

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/


From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

No it is not!

From: Sam Taylor
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc
either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it
for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Re: 2018.1.1 out yet?

Davy Cuppens
 

Chris
 
Sorry but I have always obtained my updates over the update function and that function still says NVDA 2018.1 is the latest version. I have checked again one minute ago.
I have no firewall or other security system preventing it to download.
Indeed I have checked the website and the version has come out you were right but is not implemented in the nvda update function under the help menu.
Regards
Davy
 

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?
 

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false statements

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

 

 

From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

No it is not!

 

From: Sam Taylor

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

 

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Re: 2018.1.1 out yet?

Brian's Mail list account
 

Just tested it and forced it to look. No update available. If I install an rc however, that updates to 2018.1.1rc2.
So I'll leave this with all you Hexperterts while i just go and glue my hair back in again.
Brian

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From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


Hi Davy,


I have 2018.1.1 and it was installed yesterday. That's what it says in
my help/about box for NVDA.



On 3/31/2018 6:44 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
No it is not!
*From:* Sam Taylor <mailto:samtaylor9@...>
*Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the
rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd
mention it for others waiting for it.

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Re: 2018.1.1 out yet?

Sam Taylor
 

Hey Brian,

Odd that you did not receive an automatic update. You can download from https://www.nvaccess.org/download/nvda/releases/2018.1.1/nvda_2018.1.1.exe

Cheers

Sam


On 31/03/2018 22:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well not according to the auto update on 2018.1, no it has not, as I just tested it to see if it had any updates pending.
Only the RC had the update which i have.
brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.


On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the
rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention
it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Re: 2018.1.1 out yet?

Brian's Mail list account
 

The fact is that i have 2018.1, and have forced it to look for updates this morning and its saying no update available, so how do you explain this? Its no personal slight, its the fact that obviously something is screwy here. Could it be that its only offering the update to the users running windows 10?
Seems a little odd as windows 7 does not have these voices so it would make no difference one way or the other!
Maybe some of us are in a parralell universe? :-)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


Thank you Chris.

I mean, honestly, when you write attempting to confirm something in good
faith, you would think that people would check the website, check for
updates, check in-process, before blindly disputing what somebody has
spent time to send. Honestly, people, do have a little common sense.


On 31/03/2018 21:19, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false
statements

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

*From: *Davy Cuppens <mailto:davycuppens@...>
*Sent: *31 March 2018 11:48
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

No it is not!

*From:*Sam Taylor <mailto:samtaylor9@...>

*Sent:*Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about
the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my
dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd
mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Re: 2018.1.1 out yet?

Brian's Mail list account
 

And the actual fact is, nobody has posted anything here even about the rc being around as far as I can tell.
its not really sufficient to post anything to the web site without adding something to the user list so people are alerted. The old catch 22, if you are not aware an update is planned, you do not know to go look for it, and you don't know because most users with the release version are not going to get any indication that the RC2 is out are they?
Seems sensible to me that an autoposter as we used to see in the old days of Usenet might be a good thing for nvaccess to invoke any time they want to alert the users of this list to a new test version that has just the changes mentioned in the in process article, ie the fix for the sample rate change in windows 10.

is it just me that sees the logic in this?

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false statements

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/


From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

No it is not!

From: Sam Taylor
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Re: 2018.1.1 out yet?

Brian's Mail list account
 

Well not according to the auto update on 2018.1, no it has not, as I just tested it to see if it had any updates pending.
Only the RC had the update which i have.
brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.


On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the
rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention
it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Re: windows live mial 2015

Gene
 

I just checked on my Windows 7 machine, which is running a ribbon version.  It is one of the build 2015 series and that build is a ribbon version.  There are different versions in a build.  If you want the 2015 version I have a link for, I can send the link.  But let's be sure if you want a menu or ribbon version, as I said.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:56 PM
Subject: [nvda] windows live mial 2015

Wondering if anyone has a copy of windows live mail 2015.

I was just told by Microsoft that is was in existence but no longer supported and therefor not available for download from them.

Thyanks so much.

Rich

 


Re: windows live mial 2015

Gene
 

Let's be clear on what is wanted.  Do you want a ribbon or a menu version?  There is a version number and a build number.  I think you are asking for an installer by the build number.  I'm not sure what the build number is for the menu installer I have a Drop Box link for. 
 
The menu version I'm using shows the following information in the about dialog:
Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8117.0416
 
The version being asked for is evidently higher.  But, because I'm not sure just what versions I have links to, let's find out what you want by the design of the program.  That's why I'm asking if you want ribbons or menus.  Even if you can't get the version you want, you should be able to get a suitable version.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows live mial 2015

No that was the last one without ribbons. One issue was that after that it
tended to become a stub loader so unless somebody has the full version, you
cannot install it even if you have the stub as Microsoft no longer will
respond to the stub request to download the support files.
 Brian

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From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@...>
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows live mial 2015


>I thought 2012 was the last released version of Windows Live Mail?
>
> Antony.
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> On Saturday 31 March 2018 at 01:56:57, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io wrote:
>
>> Wondering if anyone has a copy of windows live mail 2015.
>>
>> I was just told by Microsoft that is was in existence but no longer
>> supported and therefor not available for download from them.
>>
>> Thyanks so much.
>>
>> Rich
>
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Re: 2018.1.1 out yet?

Sam Taylor
 

Thank you Chris.

I mean, honestly, when you write attempting to confirm something in good faith, you would think that people would check the website, check for updates, check in-process, before blindly disputing what somebody has spent time to send. Honestly, people, do have a little common sense.


On 31/03/2018 21:19, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false statements

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

 

 

From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

No it is not!

 

From: Sam Taylor

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

 

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for Libre Office writer

 

For me it is the templets windows, on both programs. Like I said, Libre is a better program overall but OpenOffice is much more accessible, which is weird! I am gonna check out their accessibility wiki's and really dive into these keyboard commands. Both seem to be much easier to navigate than MS Office in terms of fewer keyboard commands to do various things, but I dislike the ribbon interface anyway so I have a bias. If anyone wants these, get them from Ninite's accessible programs database.