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Re: problem with a specific website and google chrome

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Another thing I found of late that some add blockers stop pages buttons and links from either displaying correctly or working. I have to guess that somewhere the data on these sites is sent from another server to the recipient and a filter affects it, possibly stopping you from operating a control if it thinks its insecure.
A real pain to have to use different browsers for different web sites. Brian

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From: "Dejan Ristic" <r.dejan83@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with a specific website and google chrome


I've happened to experience when a button does not work for me. Have you tried Objpad while activating a button and/or a link. When I wish to bring it up, I press NVDA plus Control plus tab to walk through the modes it offers. I usually choose the scan mode and position myself on a button and/or a link to try activating it. It sometimes does work, and sometimes does it fail. I also do this. When I cannot activate in the browse mode, I switch to the focus mode to activate. I also try to do one more thing. I switch to the document mode, and then I use the NVDA key with up and down arrows to find what I wish, and when I find it, I hold down the NVDA key, and then I try by hitting enter on it. One more thing you may wish to try. Switch to the browse mode. Find what you wish, and switch to the object review. Hold down the NVDA key and press enter on it. That's what I do. It sometimes helps, and sometimes fails. If you wish to switch between the browsers, try Opera and see what you may experience.


On 03/04/2018 05:29, Ashley Wayne wrote:
Hello all,

So I prefer to use google chrome, as it doesn't seem to slow down my computer like firefox often does lol. However, I can't access much of my online banking through wells fargo when I use google chrome. Basically, any object that is labeled as a button, once I log in to the system, doesn't work. When I press enter or use the space bar on the button, nothing happens. I have tried it with the same result using jaws as well. My sighted husband can use the mouse and access everything fine; everything on the site works fine with firefox. Anyway, I was wondering if by chance anyone uses wels fargo for their online banking and has the same problem with chrome? Or if anyone has any ideas of anything else I could try. Thanks so much,

Ashley







Re: Circomplex in Thunderbird

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Circumflex, is what it is actually and its a character used in often foreign text or for specific purposes by somebody.

Hard to know from your description
Brian

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From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 2:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] Circomplex in Thunderbird


Not sure if anyone here noticed when reading mail in Thunderbird when scrolling down and heard of circomplex. I am currently using NVDA version 2018.1.1 , I appreciate if you could shed your thoughts here. Thanks.

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Re: A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

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Yes indeed, it allows windows to do a reasonable job of deleting temp files and other stuff that way. I used to leave my machine in hibernate, and at first this seemed to be good, but after a few days it was slowing down and a complete restart fixed it. Not the issue here but a lesson learned.

I agree with Gene that its most likely to be power settings or an nvda misconfigure or just something odd in the software of that particular laptop maker which we are unaware of.
Brian

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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10


I have this with a user with an older system, which is at least for now dead.

He seems to like to leave it with windows open locked ofcause, and well its on all night.

The system is often locked up or really sluggish till I restart it.

My general rule is if I am gone for a few hours at home say 2 of them or less is to leave it on but if I know I will be gone for longer than 30 minutes I tend to shut the entire box down. Unless I am doing something.




On 3/04/2018 9:23 a.m., marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi guys,
My NVDA is having a strange and very annoying problem.
It happens that when I stay too much time far from my computer, when I come back my screen is totally frozen and there's nothing I can do about. Mouse and keyboard aparently don't receive my commands, my computer just stays there, out of any action.
The only thing I can do, obviously, is to manually restart it and then all seems to back to normality.
How I can resolve this problem? I'll really appreciate if there's a solution for my cyber nightmare haha

Cheers
Marcio


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Re: A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

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Sounds to me like its going into standby or something after a time and because its not working properly on the log in screen it seems to be stuck.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 10:23 PM
Subject: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10


Hi guys,
My NVDA is having a strange and very annoying problem.
It happens that when I stay too much time far from my computer, when I come back my screen is totally frozen and there's nothing I can do about. Mouse and keyboard aparently don't receive my commands, my computer just stays there, out of any action.
The only thing I can do, obviously, is to manually restart it and then all seems to back to normality.
How I can resolve this problem? I'll really appreciate if there's a solution for my cyber nightmare haha

Cheers
Marcio


Using the liberty yellow cab website with NVDA

Tony James <megatronjames@...>
 

Hi, I was wondering if anyone has successfully been able to navigate this site with NVDA 18.1?  Specifically, I would like to know if there’s a way to reload a liberty prepaid card.  I was on the site last weekend with both Firefox and Internet Explorer and I found it to be almost unusable, but I’m wondering if maybe I’m missing a trick somewhere?  Running win 7 64 bit.  Thx

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Re: Still says too much

Chris Bezant <chrisbezant999@...>
 

Yes, I had switched off descriptions thinking that was the most appropriate but it didn't help.
I have now switched off everything in the Object Presentation panel and still it persists.


Re: Circomplex in Thunderbird

Euclid Mukuronga
 

I am using NVDA 2018.11 and Thunderbird 52.70 but I have not heard that
circomplex on my system.


Robert Mendoza:

Not sure if anyone here noticed when reading mail in Thunderbird when
scrolling down and heard of circomplex.  I am currently using NVDA
version 2018.1.1 , I appreciate if you could shed your thoughts here.
Thanks.


Re: problem with a specific website and google chrome

Dejan Ristic
 

I've happened to experience when a button does not work for me. Have you tried Objpad while activating a button and/or a link. When I wish to bring it up, I press NVDA plus Control plus tab to walk through the modes it offers. I usually choose the scan mode and position myself on a button and/or a link to try activating it. It sometimes does work, and sometimes does it fail. I also do this. When I cannot activate in the browse mode, I switch to the focus mode to activate. I also try to do one more thing. I switch to the document mode, and then I use the NVDA key with up and down arrows to find what I wish, and when I find it, I hold down the NVDA key, and then I try by hitting enter on it. One more thing you may wish to try. Switch to the browse mode. Find what you wish, and switch to the object review. Hold down the NVDA key and press enter on it. That's what I do. It sometimes helps, and sometimes fails. If you wish to switch between the browsers, try Opera and see what you may experience.

On 03/04/2018 05:29, Ashley Wayne wrote:
Hello all,

So I prefer to use google chrome, as it doesn't seem to slow down my computer like firefox often does lol.  However, I can't access much of my online banking through wells fargo when I use google chrome.  Basically, any object that is labeled as a button, once I log in to the system, doesn't work.  When I press enter or use the space bar on the button, nothing happens. I have tried it with the same result using jaws as well.  My sighted husband can use the mouse and access everything fine; everything on the site works fine with firefox.  Anyway, I was wondering if by chance anyone uses wels fargo for their online banking and has the same problem with chrome?  Or if anyone has any ideas of anything else I could try.  Thanks so much,

Ashley





Re: Voice Dream Reader equivalent on PC?

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Quentin,


I'm a bookhoolic, and I've been using Qread since when it was first launched. I love it, and I don't think there are any other programmes that are so easy to use and effective, although I miss the possibility of maintaining links within ebooks.


I wish Chris would wake up on some fine spring morning and decide he should continue devloping and improving this software.


Let's start an email bombing to him!!!! (joking, but only in part...).


Ciao, and welcome to the Qreaders club!

Ollie

Il 03/04/2018 01:37, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
Fantastic,

Thanks Sam!  I've used QRead before but I must admit I don't read a lot of books on my PC so hadn't looked at it lately.

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com <mailto:samtaylor9@me.com>> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

You can do this with QRead which supports PDF, EPUB, DOCX and TXT.
No Audio file support though. It's my go-to for quick reading of
word docs and PDFs if I don't need all formatting preserved. Its
tabbed interface supports multiple documents and the software
remembers your position.

Cheers

Sam



On 2/04/2018 11:54, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

I had an inquiry from someone who is familiar with Voice Dream
Reader on iOS, and wondered whether there was a similar,
accessible program on the PC?  Particularly of interest are
features like being able to open it and quickly pick up where a
particular title was previously left.

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Re: Require help with NVDA

ss sarfudeen
 

Hi Ron,

Thanks for the steps you have provided. As I am using a laptop and not
a desktop computer, could you please give me the NVDA keystrokes for
the laptop layout for changing the review mode to the object mode and
also for routing the mouse to the item? I have tried the other two
methods but did not find them working.

Regards,

Sultana

On 4/3/18, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Sultana,


This clickable issue is a bit complex. If pressing enter on a clickable
item does not activate a new menu, or change the displayed material such
that the use of up or down arrow keys gives you new information, there
are several things you can try. This issue is complex because the
underlying code that results in NVDA reporting the item as clickable can
vary enough so that there is no one answer.


The first thing I try is to highlight the item rendered as clickable and
press the space bar. Check to see if this action renders any new
information. If that does not work, use your numpad and the insert key
(desktop system) to change the review mode to object mode (insert +
numpad 7) and then highlight the item and then route the mouse cursor to
the item with insert + numpad divide and then press the numpad divide
key again to affect a left mouse click. Check to see if this has
rendered any new information by using up/down arrow keys to check the
screen. Sometimes activating a clickable item will launch a new page and
you will know you have succeeded when this happens.


If the above methods don't work, I have found that switching to focus
mode with the keystroke insert + space bar and then using the tab key to
move around between items and then pressing enter on the item voiced as
clickable will activate the clickable item.


Those are methods that can work depending upon the underlying code to
activate the clickable items. And also be advised, that some pages are
coded so poorly that an item that is voiced as clickable is not
activated by any of the above methods. If this happens, that's the time
to e-mail the web master and inform them that their site is not screen
reader friendly.


HTH.



On 4/3/2018 12:52 AM, ss sarfudeen wrote:
Hello list members,

I am Sultana and this is my first post to the list. I have installed
the latest version of NVDA on my computer and I have been using it as
my primary screen reader for quite sometime now. I am seeking your
help to perform some tasks using NVDA. I would like to be
able to work with buttons on a web page or a form that read as
"Clickable". When I hit Enter on a clickable button, it does not get
activated. Please let me know as to how to activate it and also make
sure that the button is activated.

Besides, I would also like to know the keyboard shortcuts or an add-on
if any, for closing
pop up windows when I log-on to a website.
Kindly advise.
Your help is highly appreciated.

Regards,

Sultana



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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
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Re: Require help with NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Sultana,


This clickable issue is a bit complex.  If pressing enter on a clickable item does not activate a new menu, or change the displayed material such that the use of up or down arrow keys gives you new information, there are several things you can try. This issue is complex because the underlying code that results in NVDA reporting the item as clickable can vary enough so that there is no one answer.


The first thing I try is to highlight the item rendered as clickable and press the space bar.  Check to see if this action renders any new information.  If that does not work, use your numpad and the insert key (desktop system) to change the review mode to object mode (insert + numpad 7) and then highlight the item and then route the mouse cursor to the item with insert + numpad divide and then press the numpad divide key again to affect a left mouse click.  Check to see if this has rendered any new information by using up/down arrow keys to check the screen. Sometimes activating a clickable item will launch a new page and you will know you have succeeded when this happens.


If the above methods don't work, I have found that switching to focus mode with the keystroke insert + space bar and then using the tab key to move around between items and then pressing enter on the item voiced as clickable will activate the clickable item.


Those are methods that can work depending upon the underlying code to activate the clickable items. And also be advised, that some pages are coded so poorly that an item that is voiced as clickable is not activated by any of the above methods.  If this happens, that's the time to e-mail the web master and inform them that their site is not screen reader friendly.


HTH.

On 4/3/2018 12:52 AM, ss sarfudeen wrote:
Hello list members,

I am Sultana and this is my first post to the list. I have installed
the latest version of NVDA on my computer and I have been using it as
my primary screen reader for quite sometime now. I am seeking your
help to perform some tasks using NVDA. I would like to be
able to work with buttons on a web page or a form that read as
"Clickable". When I hit Enter on a clickable button, it does not get
activated. Please let me know as to how to activate it and also make
sure that the button is activated.

Besides, I would also like to know the keyboard shortcuts or an add-on
if any, for closing
pop up windows when I log-on to a website.
Kindly advise.
Your help is highly appreciated.

Regards,

Sultana


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Jacob Kruger
 

Sounds to me like could be screen lock/suspension - try hitting ctrl + alt + delete when the computer seems to have gone to sleep?


And, make sure that NVDA is set to be on at windows logon, etc., even if your computer normally logs in automatically.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018/04/03 00:03, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

If there is no problem without NVDA, then NVDA is the problem.

So I would reinstall NVDA.

But you might do that after a checkdisk anyway.

To check a disk, go to computer on the desktop, or whatever it’s called in windows 10, (This PC I think).

Move to your main drive and press alt + enter.

Control + tab to tools.

Tab down to drive check.

Make sure both items are checked and space bar on start or okay.

It will only check the drive after you restart, and it will take longer than usual to restart, because it will be checking the drive.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 4:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

 

Yes, I tried it without NVDA and that's ok. No problem using my computer.

About CHKDSK, how I can proceed to use it?

Em 02/04/2018 18:50, Ervin, Glenn escreveu:

Have you tried it without NVDA running?
It sounds more like an operating system problem, and not NVDA.
I would recommend unloading NVDA and load Narrator and see if it still happens.
If it only happens with NVDA, you could reinstall it.
If it does not happen with Narrator, I would try a chkdsk in tools of the drive properties.
HTH.
Glenn
 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10
 
Hi guys,
My NVDA is having a strange and very annoying problem.
It happens that when I stay too much time far from my computer, when I come back my screen is totally frozen and there's nothing I can do about. Mouse and keyboard aparently don't receive my commands, my computer just stays there, out of any action.
The only thing I can do, obviously, is to manually restart it and then all seems to back to normality.
How I can resolve this problem? I'll really appreciate if there's a solution for my cyber nightmare haha
 
Cheers
Marcio
 
 
 
 
 
 

 



Require help with NVDA

ss sarfudeen
 

Hello list members,

I am Sultana and this is my first post to the list. I have installed
the latest version of NVDA on my computer and I have been using it as
my primary screen reader for quite sometime now. I am seeking your
help to perform some tasks using NVDA. I would like to be
able to work with buttons on a web page or a form that read as
"Clickable". When I hit Enter on a clickable button, it does not get
activated. Please let me know as to how to activate it and also make
sure that the button is activated.

Besides, I would also like to know the keyboard shortcuts or an add-on
if any, for closing
pop up windows when I log-on to a website.
Kindly advise.
Your help is highly appreciated.

Regards,

Sultana


Re: A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Gene
 

I see that not using NVDA causes the problem not to happen so that part is solved.  I don't see how this is a disk problem.  I think the relevant part of the NVDA log needs to be sent to the list so people who know enough technically can see what might be happening.  Others on the list can tell you how to submit the log. 
 
What is NVDA doing or what isn't working properly after a time of not being used?  Of course, I may be wrong but I am more than skeptical that a hard drive problem has anything to do with the problem. 
 
I still think the power settings should be checked.  I don't know how likely this is, but it still could be that something, the hard drive, the monitor, something, is turning off and can't turn on properly if NVDA is running.  It may be that the computer is going into something like sleep or standbye and isn't turning on properly when NVDA is running.  Or perhaps keyboard input isn't being properly received when this happens when NVDA is running.  I think the hard drive is the least of the possibilities.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Yes, I tried it without NVDA and that's ok. No problem using my computer.
About CHKDSK, how I can proceed to use it?

Em 02/04/2018 18:50, Ervin, Glenn escreveu:
Have you tried it without NVDA running?
It sounds more like an operating system problem, and not NVDA.
I would recommend unloading NVDA and load Narrator and see if it still happens.
If it only happens with NVDA, you could reinstall it.
If it does not happen with Narrator, I would try a chkdsk in tools of the drive properties.
HTH.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Hi guys,
My NVDA is having a strange and very annoying problem.
It happens that when I stay too much time far from my computer, when I come back my screen is totally frozen and there's nothing I can do about. Mouse and keyboard aparently don't receive my commands, my computer just stays there, out of any action.
The only thing I can do, obviously, is to manually restart it and then all seems to back to normality.
How I can resolve this problem? I'll really appreciate if there's a solution for my cyber nightmare haha

Cheers
Marcio








Re: A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Gene
 

I don't see how this has anything to do with a disk problem.  Something happens if the computer is not used for a certain period of time.  Check the power settings in the computer.  Is it set to always on?  Is anything specified to happen after a certain period of time such as that the hard drive will stop or something else will stop or that the computer will go into stand by or sleep?  Dis problems cause data to not be properly written to disk and to be lost or corrupted or cause data not to be properly read from the disk and to be corrupted or lost in that way.  This sounds like a power management problem.  Make sure the always on setting is being used.  If it is being used now, the problem needs more investigation.  If it isn't being used now, use it and see what happens.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Have you tried it without NVDA running?
It sounds more like an operating system problem, and not NVDA.
I would recommend unloading NVDA and load Narrator and see if it still happens.
If it only happens with NVDA, you could reinstall it.
If it does not happen with Narrator, I would try a chkdsk in tools of the drive properties.
HTH.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Hi guys,
My NVDA is having a strange and very annoying problem.
It happens that when I stay too much time far from my computer, when I come back my screen is totally frozen and there's nothing I can do about. Mouse and keyboard aparently don't receive my commands, my computer just stays there, out of any action.
The only thing I can do, obviously, is to manually restart it and then all seems to back to normality.
How I can resolve this problem? I'll really appreciate if there's a solution for my cyber nightmare haha

Cheers
Marcio







problem with a specific website and google chrome

Ashley Wayne
 

Hello all,

So I prefer to use google chrome, as it doesn't seem to slow down my computer like firefox often does lol.  However, I can't access much of my online banking through wells fargo when I use google chrome.  Basically, any object that is labeled as a button, once I log in to the system, doesn't work.  When I press enter or use the space bar on the button, nothing happens. I have tried it with the same result using jaws as well.  My sighted husband can use the mouse and access everything fine; everything on the site works fine with firefox.  Anyway, I was wondering if by chance anyone uses wels fargo for their online banking and has the same problem with chrome?  Or if anyone has any ideas of anything else I could try.  Thanks so much,

Ashley


Re: Circomplex in Thunderbird

Robert Mendoza
 

I often experience this only to some email here but not to all. But, kinda weird thing to heard of that and not sure of causing the problem.

Robert Mendoza

On 4/3/2018 9:31 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
I am not experiencing this on my system.

On 4/2/2018 9:08 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Not sure if anyone here noticed when reading mail in Thunderbird when scrolling down and heard of circomplex.  I am currently using NVDA version 2018.1.1 , I appreciate if you could shed your thoughts here. Thanks.


Re: Blindspot may need to close because of Spotify's changing API.

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

I use the regular spotify client and have no issues with it, but will suck that this change is happening.

As pointed out below, not surprising.

On 02-Apr-2018 7:59 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Indeed a shame! I've raelly gotten to love BlindSpot! it's very handy, especially for playing Spotify music on the PC moreover in a very accessible way! Hope something can be done about this before it's too late.
El 02/04/2018 a las 05:51 p.m., Shaun Everiss escribió:
That is a shame, another inaccessible music service the blind can't use.

Is spotify accessible it seems to be included now on the new install of win10 I have on the workstation.




On 3/04/2018 1:46 a.m., Robert Kingett wrote:
Per [Spotify's new API requirements,](http://developer.spotify.com/) meaning, they are killing off one in favor of the other, in this case, web... means that accessible apps like BlindSpot may not work anymore. It is a huge shame, but not at all shocking. The Git link is below to the thread.

Before anybody asks, because I know many will, and not bother looking it up, blindspot is an accessible, windowless, alternative application to Spotify that works using the keyboard only, and is only on Windows. The issue thread is below.

https://github.com/craigbrett17/blindspot/issues/38



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Re: Circomplex in Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

I am not experiencing this on my system.

On 4/2/2018 9:08 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Not sure if anyone here noticed when reading mail in Thunderbird when scrolling down and heard of circomplex.  I am currently using NVDA version 2018.1.1 , I appreciate if you could shed your thoughts here. Thanks.
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I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Circomplex in Thunderbird

Robert Mendoza
 

Not sure if anyone here noticed when reading mail in Thunderbird when scrolling down and heard of circomplex.  I am currently using NVDA version 2018.1.1 , I appreciate if you could shed your thoughts here. Thanks.

--
Robert Mendoza