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Re: Blindspot may need to close because of Spotify's changing API.

Gene
 

I'm not sure what the implications are of the change being proposed.  Does it mean that Spotify will continue to function as it did except that specific things like the windowless app won't function?  If so, then you can probably use Spotify radio.  You may be able to save a link, as you do in a browser, for a certain Spotify radio stream.  I don't use Spotify features to any extent.  I listen to albums or parts of albums.  I've almost never useed Spotify radio.  But, as with Spotify Radio, which you say you want to use, if you tell the list specifically how you want to use Spotify, you may get suggestions. 
 
If people send only general information when they have very specific uses in mind, they significantly lower the chances for getting effective help.  So far, we have no idea if anything significant will have to change in what you can and can't do.  It may just be a matter of learning a different way to do things or having certain things you can't do while having certain things you still can. 
 
You may also want, especially if the amount you can do is reduced, to use Spotify as a free service.  Paying for it, which is necessary to use the app we are discussing, may not be necessary for the other way or ways you can do things.  Sound won't be as good, though it's acceptable, and you'll hear commercials, but you won't be paying for a degraded service.
 
Gene 

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Blindspot may need to close because of Spotify's changing API.

Hey guys! and gals. I will check out some suggestions in the thread, but I don't want to download music just so I can play it. I use the radio function on Spotify to write to artists similar to say, Owl City, for example. I guess I can just continue to use Hope. Accessible pandora application. I will see if Google Music has a radio like option and look at all of the other suggestions, but I am not interested in downloading music or storing it somewhere to be played. I guess it's a generational thing, I guess. I like the, pay once, get access to seemingly unlimited albums without downloading anything. Still, great suggestions! Eager to check them out! Yeah, I love blindspot too and use it daily. It's a shame. while the windows version is usable, it's half assed accessible. For instance, the options dialog does not read unless moving the review cursor around. It seems like they just want to appease us. Hey, I absolutely hated Flash to begin with, even when I could see. I always removed it straight away when I imaged a new laptop. Off to try the other services! Toodles!


Re: A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Gene
 

You should do a reboot of Windows after awhile if you either leave it on, or use hibernate or stand by.  Just as you should do a full reboot of
Windows after awhile if you leave the computer on, using hibernate or stand by stops, or mostly shuts down the actual computer, depending on the option you use, but it doesn't reboot Windows.  but leaving on a machine or using stand by or hibernate for many days or perhaps a week or even longer shouldn't result in bad performance.  After awhile, it will cause problems.  You can experiment if you wish to see how long it takes.  It varies depending on how you use the computer and perhaps on other things.  Some people may have to reboot every four or five days, some people may be able to go for seven days or longer.  Or you may just want to arbitrarily pick a number of days such as four or five and then reboot.  As with memory, there is an enormous amount of inaccurate information passed around on this subject.
 
Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Yes indeed, it allows windows to do a reasonable job of deleting temp files
and other stuff that way. I used to leave my machine in hibernate, and at
first this seemed to be good, but after a few days it was slowing down and a
complete restart fixed it. Not the issue here but a lesson learned.

I agree with Gene that its most likely to be power settings or an nvda
misconfigure or just something odd in the software of that particular laptop
maker which we are unaware of.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10


>I have this with a user with an older system, which is at least for now
>dead.
>
> He seems to like to leave it with windows open locked ofcause, and well
> its on all night.
>
> The system is often locked up or really sluggish till I restart it.
>
> My general rule is if I am gone for a few hours at home say 2 of them or
> less is to leave it on but if I know I will be gone for longer than 30
> minutes I tend to shut the entire box down. Unless I am doing something.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/04/2018 9:23 a.m., marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> My NVDA is having a strange and very annoying problem.
>> It happens that when I stay too much time far from my computer, when I
>> come back my screen is totally frozen and there's nothing I can do about.
>> Mouse and keyboard aparently don't receive my commands, my computer just
>> stays there, out of any action.
>> The only thing I can do, obviously, is to manually restart it and then
>> all seems to back to normality.
>> How I can resolve this problem? I'll really appreciate if there's a
>> solution for my cyber nightmare haha
>>
>> Cheers
>> Marcio
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Ervin, Glenn
 

But if no settings had been changed, how could it start doing that?
I considered that Marcio would know if a setting had been changed.
Glenn

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Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Sounds to me like its going into standby or something after a time and because its not working properly on the log in screen it seems to be stuck.
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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 10:23 PM
Subject: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10


Hi guys,
My NVDA is having a strange and very annoying problem.
It happens that when I stay too much time far from my computer, when I
come back my screen is totally frozen and there's nothing I can do about.
Mouse and keyboard aparently don't receive my commands, my computer just
stays there, out of any action.
The only thing I can do, obviously, is to manually restart it and then all
seems to back to normality.
How I can resolve this problem? I'll really appreciate if there's a
solution for my cyber nightmare haha

Cheers
Marcio



Re: A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Ervin, Glenn
 

Gene,

A corrupt part of the disk can cause problems with a particular file that can be causing a problem like this.

Perhaps the swap file is writing to a bad sector.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 11:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

 

I see that not using NVDA causes the problem not to happen so that part is solved.  I don't see how this is a disk problem.  I think the relevant part of the NVDA log needs to be sent to the list so people who know enough technically can see what might be happening.  Others on the list can tell you how to submit the log. 

 

What is NVDA doing or what isn't working properly after a time of not being used?  Of course, I may be wrong but I am more than skeptical that a hard drive problem has anything to do with the problem. 

 

I still think the power settings should be checked.  I don't know how likely this is, but it still could be that something, the hard drive, the monitor, something, is turning off and can't turn on properly if NVDA is running.  It may be that the computer is going into something like sleep or standbye and isn't turning on properly when NVDA is running.  Or perhaps keyboard input isn't being properly received when this happens when NVDA is running.  I think the hard drive is the least of the possibilities.

 

Gene

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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 4:57 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

 

Yes, I tried it without NVDA and that's ok. No problem using my computer.

About CHKDSK, how I can proceed to use it?

Em 02/04/2018 18:50, Ervin, Glenn escreveu:

Have you tried it without NVDA running?
It sounds more like an operating system problem, and not NVDA.
I would recommend unloading NVDA and load Narrator and see if it still happens.
If it only happens with NVDA, you could reinstall it.
If it does not happen with Narrator, I would try a chkdsk in tools of the drive properties.
HTH.
Glenn
 
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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10
 
Hi guys,
My NVDA is having a strange and very annoying problem.
It happens that when I stay too much time far from my computer, when I come back my screen is totally frozen and there's nothing I can do about. Mouse and keyboard aparently don't receive my commands, my computer just stays there, out of any action.
The only thing I can do, obviously, is to manually restart it and then all seems to back to normality.
How I can resolve this problem? I'll really appreciate if there's a solution for my cyber nightmare haha
 
Cheers
Marcio
 
 
 
 
 
 

 


Re: A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Ervin, Glenn
 

Gene,

I too thought it sounded like a power setting, however, if nothing had been changed, it would not likely be the issue.

I suppose the PS could be starting to go, and not charging the battery well.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 11:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

 

I don't see how this has anything to do with a disk problem.  Something happens if the computer is not used for a certain period of time.  Check the power settings in the computer.  Is it set to always on?  Is anything specified to happen after a certain period of time such as that the hard drive will stop or something else will stop or that the computer will go into stand by or sleep?  Dis problems cause data to not be properly written to disk and to be lost or corrupted or cause data not to be properly read from the disk and to be corrupted or lost in that way.  This sounds like a power management problem.  Make sure the always on setting is being used.  If it is being used now, the problem needs more investigation.  If it isn't being used now, use it and see what happens.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

 

Have you tried it without NVDA running?
It sounds more like an operating system problem, and not NVDA.
I would recommend unloading NVDA and load Narrator and see if it still happens.
If it only happens with NVDA, you could reinstall it.
If it does not happen with Narrator, I would try a chkdsk in tools of the drive properties.
HTH.
Glenn

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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

Hi guys,
My NVDA is having a strange and very annoying problem.
It happens that when I stay too much time far from my computer, when I come back my screen is totally frozen and there's nothing I can do about. Mouse and keyboard aparently don't receive my commands, my computer just stays there, out of any action.
The only thing I can do, obviously, is to manually restart it and then all seems to back to normality.
How I can resolve this problem? I'll really appreciate if there's a solution for my cyber nightmare haha

Cheers
Marcio






Re: Voice Dream Reader equivalent on PC?

Cristóbal
 

For the record, QRead also handles MOBI formatted eBooks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 6:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Voice Dream Reader equivalent on PC?

 

I agree that QRead  is a very useful program and I purchased it myself.

However in terms of emulating Voicedream on a PC i would have thought something like balabolka would have been nearer the mark. Especially with its ability to create TTS mp3 versions in different voices of eBooks, including support not just for ePub but also Mobi books.

I have not used it enough to comment on things like chapter navigation though I understand it supports Header navigation..

It is of course also free so is easy to try out and see if it suits the bill.

David Griffith

 

 

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http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
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https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: 02 April 2018 02:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Voice Dream Reader equivalent on PC?

 

Hi everyone,

 

I had an inquiry from someone who is familiar with Voice Dream Reader on iOS, and wondered whether there was a similar, accessible program on the PC?  Particularly of interest are features like being able to open it and quickly pick up where a particular title was previously left.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Re: Blindspot may need to close because of Spotify's changing API.

Gerardo Corripio
 

Remember too that here in Mexico, and othe other less-developped countries, an unlimited internet plan is very expensive! thus most of us only have from 1GB monthkly, to about 6 or 8. For this reason, being able to download music via Spotify, or others to have available online, is important.
El 03/04/2018 a las 08:08 a.m., Robert Kingett escribió:

Hey guys! and gals. I will check out some suggestions in the thread, but I don't want to download music just so I can play it. I use the radio function on Spotify to write to artists similar to say, Owl City, for example. I guess I can just continue to use Hope. Accessible pandora application. I will see if Google Music has a radio like option and look at all of the other suggestions, but I am not interested in downloading music or storing it somewhere to be played. I guess it's a generational thing, I guess. I like the, pay once, get access to seemingly unlimited albums without downloading anything. Still, great suggestions! Eager to check them out! Yeah, I love blindspot too and use it daily. It's a shame. while the windows version is usable, it's half assed accessible. For instance, the options dialog does not read unless moving the review cursor around. It seems like they just want to appease us. Hey, I absolutely hated Flash to begin with, even when I could see. I always removed it straight away when I imaged a new laptop. Off to try the other services! Toodles!


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Re: Wells Fargo contact information.

Antony Stone
 

Ah.

Since your posting wasn't a reply to an existing thread, I didn't realise it
was in response to a question asked in that thread, so it looked to me like
some person from Wells Fargo simply wanted to discuss things about NVDA with
us.

Thanks for the clarification.

Antony.

On Tuesday 03 April 2018 at 16:03:16, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:

Sorry,

I forgot to switch from reply to group to reply to sender before sending
this one out. There was a complaint yesterday about being unable to click
buttons using Chrome with the Wells Fargo web site. Judith is fairly
active with some general accessibility web sites and I expect does not
have time to spend directly on a NVDA mailing list.

Take care,

Jonathan Cohn

On 4/3/18, 9:45 AM, Antony Stone wrote:

She's welcome to join the list and ask any questions she has -
alternatively contact details for NV Access Limited are available on the
website at https://www.nvaccess.org/contact/


Regards,


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Re: Wells Fargo contact information.

Jonathan COHN
 

Sorry,

I forgot to switch from reply to group to reply to sender before sending this one out. There was a complaint yesterday about being unable to click buttons using Chrome with the Wells Fargo web site. Judith is fairly active with some general accessibility web sites and I expect does not have time to spend directly on a NVDA mailing list.

Take care,

Jonathan Cohn

On 4/3/18, 9:45 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Antony Stone" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:

She's welcome to join the list and ask any questions she has - alternatively
contact details for NV Access Limited are available on the website at
https://www.nvaccess.org/contact/


Regards,


Antony.

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> Hello,
>
> I believe the below person would be interested in talking with you.
>
> Judith Blankman
> Accessibility Strategist, Vice President
>
> WFVC Digital Customer Experience
> 550 California Street, 2nd Floor
> San Francisco, CA 94104
> 415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114
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Re: Require help with NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

OK, here you go.


Keep in mind that the reference to NVDA is the NVDA modifier key.  On desktops  bby default it is the insert key.  On laptops it is the caps lock key.


left mouse click NVDA + [ Press twice quickly for a double left click.

left mouse button lock NVDA + control + [ to unlock press again.

right mouse button click NVDA + ]

right mouse button lock NVDA + control+ ] press again to unlock.

Move mouse to current navigater object NVDA + shift + M

Navigate to the object under the mouse NVDA + Shift +N

On 4/3/2018 2:57 AM, ss sarfudeen wrote:
Hi Ron,

Thanks for the steps you have provided. As I am using a laptop and not
a desktop computer, could you please give me the NVDA keystrokes for
the laptop layout for changing the review mode to the object mode and
also for routing the mouse to the item? I have tried the other two
methods but did not find them working.

Regards,

Sultana



On 4/3/18, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Sultana,


This clickable issue is a bit complex. If pressing enter on a clickable
item does not activate a new menu, or change the displayed material such
that the use of up or down arrow keys gives you new information, there
are several things you can try. This issue is complex because the
underlying code that results in NVDA reporting the item as clickable can
vary enough so that there is no one answer.


The first thing I try is to highlight the item rendered as clickable and
press the space bar. Check to see if this action renders any new
information. If that does not work, use your numpad and the insert key
(desktop system) to change the review mode to object mode (insert +
numpad 7) and then highlight the item and then route the mouse cursor to
the item with insert + numpad divide and then press the numpad divide
key again to affect a left mouse click. Check to see if this has
rendered any new information by using up/down arrow keys to check the
screen. Sometimes activating a clickable item will launch a new page and
you will know you have succeeded when this happens.


If the above methods don't work, I have found that switching to focus
mode with the keystroke insert + space bar and then using the tab key to
move around between items and then pressing enter on the item voiced as
clickable will activate the clickable item.


Those are methods that can work depending upon the underlying code to
activate the clickable items. And also be advised, that some pages are
coded so poorly that an item that is voiced as clickable is not
activated by any of the above methods. If this happens, that's the time
to e-mail the web master and inform them that their site is not screen
reader friendly.


HTH.



On 4/3/2018 12:52 AM, ss sarfudeen wrote:
Hello list members,

I am Sultana and this is my first post to the list. I have installed
the latest version of NVDA on my computer and I have been using it as
my primary screen reader for quite sometime now. I am seeking your
help to perform some tasks using NVDA. I would like to be
able to work with buttons on a web page or a form that read as
"Clickable". When I hit Enter on a clickable button, it does not get
activated. Please let me know as to how to activate it and also make
sure that the button is activated.

Besides, I would also like to know the keyboard shortcuts or an add-on
if any, for closing
pop up windows when I log-on to a website.
Kindly advise.
Your help is highly appreciated.

Regards,

Sultana



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Re: Blindspot may need to close because of Spotify's changing API.

Gerardo Corripio
 

Also I think i heard somewhere that Google Play music, has a Windows program that allows you to listen online, and/or download your music onto the computer, especially good for folks like my Dad because of generational things, he wants for music to be available on his mP3 Sansa player, USB and other media he can listen to wihtout depending of an app and a SmartPHone.

El 02/04/2018 a las 11:43 a.m., Perry Simm via Groups.Io escribió:
Hello,
as far as an accessible web interface is concerned, I can recommend Google Play Music. It uses headings, has keyboard shortcuts, all buttons have reasonable descriptions, and if used with Chrome it doesn't even require the security risk called Flash. It's an accessibility success story too few people know about, in sharp contrast to Spotify which, in my opinion, never really cared.
Cheers Perry


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No connection whatsoever with this, but in this age of inclusively, should

not a company now about to or is listed not be actually trying to increase

their electronic footfall, rather than chucking people off who are blind.

its probably against the law in many countries, but as we often see, if you

are a powerful entity, you can do what you like. Some companies consider

social responsibility to be cheap to comply with and gives them brownie

points, while others carry on as if they were in a time 40 years ago.

I'll say no more but I had thought with flash being discontinued the age

of inaccessible web content was over.

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Robert Kingett" kingettr@gmail.com

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 2:46 PM

Subject: [nvda] Blindspot may need to close because of Spotify's changing

API.

Per Spotify's new API requirements,

meaning, they are killing off one in favor of the other, in this case,

web... means that accessible apps like BlindSpot may not work anymore. It

is a huge shame, but not at all shocking. The Git link is below to the

thread.

Before anybody asks, because I know many will, and not bother looking it

up, blindspot is an accessible, windowless, alternative application to

Spotify that works using the keyboard only, and is only on Windows. The

issue thread is below.

https://github.com/craigbrett17/blindspot/issues/38

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Re: Wells Fargo contact information.

Antony Stone
 

She's welcome to join the list and ask any questions she has - alternatively
contact details for NV Access Limited are available on the website at
https://www.nvaccess.org/contact/


Regards,


Antony.

On Tuesday 03 April 2018 at 15:38:43, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:

Hello,

I believe the below person would be interested in talking with you.

Judith Blankman
Accessibility Strategist, Vice President

WFVC Digital Customer Experience
550 California Street, 2nd Floor
San Francisco, CA 94104
415-947-6583 | Cell: 415-601-1114

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Re: Blindspot may need to close because of Spotify's changing API.

 

Hey guys! and gals. I will check out some suggestions in the thread, but I don't want to download music just so I can play it. I use the radio function on Spotify to write to artists similar to say, Owl City, for example. I guess I can just continue to use Hope. Accessible pandora application. I will see if Google Music has a radio like option and look at all of the other suggestions, but I am not interested in downloading music or storing it somewhere to be played. I guess it's a generational thing, I guess. I like the, pay once, get access to seemingly unlimited albums without downloading anything. Still, great suggestions! Eager to check them out! Yeah, I love blindspot too and use it daily. It's a shame. while the windows version is usable, it's half assed accessible. For instance, the options dialog does not read unless moving the review cursor around. It seems like they just want to appease us. Hey, I absolutely hated Flash to begin with, even when I could see. I always removed it straight away when I imaged a new laptop. Off to try the other services! Toodles!


Re: Voice Dream Reader equivalent on PC?

David Griffith
 

I agree that QRead  is a very useful program and I purchased it myself.

However in terms of emulating Voicedream on a PC i would have thought something like balabolka would have been nearer the mark. Especially with its ability to create TTS mp3 versions in different voices of eBooks, including support not just for ePub but also Mobi books.

I have not used it enough to comment on things like chapter navigation though I understand it supports Header navigation..

It is of course also free so is easy to try out and see if it suits the bill.

David Griffith

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: 02 April 2018 02:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Voice Dream Reader equivalent on PC?

 

Hi everyone,

 

I had an inquiry from someone who is familiar with Voice Dream Reader on iOS, and wondered whether there was a similar, accessible program on the PC?  Particularly of interest are features like being able to open it and quickly pick up where a particular title was previously left.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Re: Require help with NVDA

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

As a matter of interest what is your preferred browser, ie its version as well as its name if you can.

It is a shame but it seems web designers will always find a way to screw it up for non mouse users, and yet you would have thought making it simple for all should be their main aim.


If its a page we can access, then please share the address here as well.
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From: "ss sarfudeen" <sssarfudeen@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Require help with NVDA


Hi Ron,

Thanks for the steps you have provided. As I am using a laptop and not
a desktop computer, could you please give me the NVDA keystrokes for
the laptop layout for changing the review mode to the object mode and
also for routing the mouse to the item? I have tried the other two
methods but did not find them working.

Regards,

Sultana



On 4/3/18, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Sultana,


This clickable issue is a bit complex. If pressing enter on a clickable
item does not activate a new menu, or change the displayed material such
that the use of up or down arrow keys gives you new information, there
are several things you can try. This issue is complex because the
underlying code that results in NVDA reporting the item as clickable can
vary enough so that there is no one answer.


The first thing I try is to highlight the item rendered as clickable and
press the space bar. Check to see if this action renders any new
information. If that does not work, use your numpad and the insert key
(desktop system) to change the review mode to object mode (insert +
numpad 7) and then highlight the item and then route the mouse cursor to
the item with insert + numpad divide and then press the numpad divide
key again to affect a left mouse click. Check to see if this has
rendered any new information by using up/down arrow keys to check the
screen. Sometimes activating a clickable item will launch a new page and
you will know you have succeeded when this happens.


If the above methods don't work, I have found that switching to focus
mode with the keystroke insert + space bar and then using the tab key to
move around between items and then pressing enter on the item voiced as
clickable will activate the clickable item.


Those are methods that can work depending upon the underlying code to
activate the clickable items. And also be advised, that some pages are
coded so poorly that an item that is voiced as clickable is not
activated by any of the above methods. If this happens, that's the time
to e-mail the web master and inform them that their site is not screen
reader friendly.


HTH.



On 4/3/2018 12:52 AM, ss sarfudeen wrote:
Hello list members,

I am Sultana and this is my first post to the list. I have installed
the latest version of NVDA on my computer and I have been using it as
my primary screen reader for quite sometime now. I am seeking your
help to perform some tasks using NVDA. I would like to be
able to work with buttons on a web page or a form that read as
"Clickable". When I hit Enter on a clickable button, it does not get
activated. Please let me know as to how to activate it and also make
sure that the button is activated.

Besides, I would also like to know the keyboard shortcuts or an add-on
if any, for closing
pop up windows when I log-on to a website.
Kindly advise.
Your help is highly appreciated.

Regards,

Sultana



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Re: problem with a specific website and google chrome

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Another thing I found of late that some add blockers stop pages buttons and links from either displaying correctly or working. I have to guess that somewhere the data on these sites is sent from another server to the recipient and a filter affects it, possibly stopping you from operating a control if it thinks its insecure.
A real pain to have to use different browsers for different web sites. Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with a specific website and google chrome


I've happened to experience when a button does not work for me. Have you tried Objpad while activating a button and/or a link. When I wish to bring it up, I press NVDA plus Control plus tab to walk through the modes it offers. I usually choose the scan mode and position myself on a button and/or a link to try activating it. It sometimes does work, and sometimes does it fail. I also do this. When I cannot activate in the browse mode, I switch to the focus mode to activate. I also try to do one more thing. I switch to the document mode, and then I use the NVDA key with up and down arrows to find what I wish, and when I find it, I hold down the NVDA key, and then I try by hitting enter on it. One more thing you may wish to try. Switch to the browse mode. Find what you wish, and switch to the object review. Hold down the NVDA key and press enter on it. That's what I do. It sometimes helps, and sometimes fails. If you wish to switch between the browsers, try Opera and see what you may experience.


On 03/04/2018 05:29, Ashley Wayne wrote:
Hello all,

So I prefer to use google chrome, as it doesn't seem to slow down my computer like firefox often does lol. However, I can't access much of my online banking through wells fargo when I use google chrome. Basically, any object that is labeled as a button, once I log in to the system, doesn't work. When I press enter or use the space bar on the button, nothing happens. I have tried it with the same result using jaws as well. My sighted husband can use the mouse and access everything fine; everything on the site works fine with firefox. Anyway, I was wondering if by chance anyone uses wels fargo for their online banking and has the same problem with chrome? Or if anyone has any ideas of anything else I could try. Thanks so much,

Ashley







Re: Circomplex in Thunderbird

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Circumflex, is what it is actually and its a character used in often foreign text or for specific purposes by somebody.

Hard to know from your description
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] Circomplex in Thunderbird


Not sure if anyone here noticed when reading mail in Thunderbird when scrolling down and heard of circomplex. I am currently using NVDA version 2018.1.1 , I appreciate if you could shed your thoughts here. Thanks.

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Re: A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

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Yes indeed, it allows windows to do a reasonable job of deleting temp files and other stuff that way. I used to leave my machine in hibernate, and at first this seemed to be good, but after a few days it was slowing down and a complete restart fixed it. Not the issue here but a lesson learned.

I agree with Gene that its most likely to be power settings or an nvda misconfigure or just something odd in the software of that particular laptop maker which we are unaware of.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10


I have this with a user with an older system, which is at least for now dead.

He seems to like to leave it with windows open locked ofcause, and well its on all night.

The system is often locked up or really sluggish till I restart it.

My general rule is if I am gone for a few hours at home say 2 of them or less is to leave it on but if I know I will be gone for longer than 30 minutes I tend to shut the entire box down. Unless I am doing something.




On 3/04/2018 9:23 a.m., marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi guys,
My NVDA is having a strange and very annoying problem.
It happens that when I stay too much time far from my computer, when I come back my screen is totally frozen and there's nothing I can do about. Mouse and keyboard aparently don't receive my commands, my computer just stays there, out of any action.
The only thing I can do, obviously, is to manually restart it and then all seems to back to normality.
How I can resolve this problem? I'll really appreciate if there's a solution for my cyber nightmare haha

Cheers
Marcio


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Re: A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10

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Sounds to me like its going into standby or something after a time and because its not working properly on the log in screen it seems to be stuck.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 10:23 PM
Subject: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA and Windows 10


Hi guys,
My NVDA is having a strange and very annoying problem.
It happens that when I stay too much time far from my computer, when I come back my screen is totally frozen and there's nothing I can do about. Mouse and keyboard aparently don't receive my commands, my computer just stays there, out of any action.
The only thing I can do, obviously, is to manually restart it and then all seems to back to normality.
How I can resolve this problem? I'll really appreciate if there's a solution for my cyber nightmare haha

Cheers
Marcio


Using the liberty yellow cab website with NVDA

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Hi, I was wondering if anyone has successfully been able to navigate this site with NVDA 18.1?  Specifically, I would like to know if there’s a way to reload a liberty prepaid card.  I was on the site last weekend with both Firefox and Internet Explorer and I found it to be almost unusable, but I’m wondering if maybe I’m missing a trick somewhere?  Running win 7 64 bit.  Thx

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