From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2016 8:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA

Afrim,

         Unfortunately, this forum does not support attachments, and I'm presuming that you attached the file you're trying to read to an e-mail message you posted to the group.  If you can upload the thing to any form of cloud storage that allows those supplied with the link to download the file that would be a good workaround.

         I'm also pasting some advice I got from Freedom Scientific Technical Support a couple of months ago related to PDF files.  Although I know you're not using JAWS a lot of what's mentioned is more generally applicable.

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This is an Adobe Reader setting that is causing this to take place. If you walk through the instructions below, you can change this setting:

A. Using the Accessibility Set Up Assistant

When you launch a PDF the first time, the accessibility set up assistant opens. If the accessibility wizard has already run, do the following to open it:

1. Press ALT+E to open the Edit menu.

2. Press Y to select Accessibility submenu.

3. Press ENTER on Set Up Assistant. The first page of this five page dialog box opens. The default choice is fine, press ENTER to move to the next page.

4. On the second page you can change things if you wish, but by default it is OK. Press ENTER to move to page three.

5. On the third page you can change things if you wish, but by default it is OK. Press ENTER to move to page four.

6. On the fourth page, if you want to use the list of links, list of headings, and the JAWS find command so on to access long documents, change the radio button from

"For large documents, only read the currently visible pages"

to

"Read the entire document at once."

If you do not make this change, in long documents JAWS only sees the links and headings on the current page. Additionally, JAWS can only search the current page with the JAWS find command. If you do select read the entire document at once, it may take a few seconds longer to process large documents, but it is worth it to be able to see the links and  headings in the entire document, or to search the entire document with the JAWS find.

7. Press ENTER to move to page five of the Set Up Assistant.

8. If the check box for Reopen documents to the last viewed page is checked, you may want to uncheck this. It is a personal preference. TAB through until you reach the check box for "Display PDF documents in the web browser," and uncheck it.

9. Press ENTER to activate the Done button.

B. Additional changes in Adobe Reader XI preferences.

1. Press CTRL+K to open the Adobe Reader XI preferences.

2. In the Categories list on the left side of the dialog box, choose Accessibility.

3. Press TAB to move to the item, Show Portfolios in Files mode (not checked by default) - check this.

4. Press TAB to move back to the Categories list and choose Security (Enhanced).

5. Press TAB to move to Enable Protected Mode at startup (checked by default) - uncheck this.

6. Press TAB to move to the OK button, and activate it with the SPACEBAR.

NOTE: The option to view PDF documents in the browser is no longer found in the Preferences. You must use the Set Up Assistant to find this

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Brian
-- 

Gene,

I see that the link spreads over two lines and is broken. Could you remove the carriage return that is breaking the link and try again?

Alternatively, you might like to try this link which does still work for me:

http://library.bolindadigital.com/southdublinBorrowBox

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

Hi,

I found a problem in Firefox when attempting to listen to a sample of an
audio book in the BorrowBox library system. I don't know if this is an NVDA
problem or exclusively a Firefox Flash Player issue. or if Bolinda need to
do something with their Java script. I should mention that the sighted user
has no problem playing the audio sample using a mouse.

I am using Windows 10,, NVDA 2016.1 and Firefox46.1 on a desktop PC.

If List members would like to see the problem for themselves I recommend the
following url:
https://fe.bolindadigital.com/wldcs_bol_fo/b2i/productOverview.html?b2bSite=
4834&browseItemId=366096&fromPage=1
It is not necessary to sign in to sample the reading of a title.

Here is a typical audio book display:

--Start of clip -----------------------
link graphic Railway Viaduct
embedded object unavailable (this should say "Preview" but doesn't!)
Link Reserve
On Loan, Available on 22/05/16
Link Railway Viaduct
Link Edward Marston
Read by Sam Dastor
Crime & Thriller, Historical Fiction
eAudiobook - Unabridged
---end of clip ------------------

The player for the audio sample is activated by an "embedded object" that is
flagged by NVDA as "not being available". The BorrowBox help page advises
that Adobe flash must be active to enable audio sampling of each title. I
have Adobe flash installed and active. For example, I can play any song in
YouTube in Firefox without any problem.

After many weeks of failing to play the preview, I found the following
workaround using NVDA:

From the top of the web page select eAudio if not already selected. Then
press "g" to find a book title. If the next   object after pressing
down-arrow once is "embedded Object" then you have an audio book and we can
start.

Here is the full sequence of steps:
1. Press G for the graphic of the book title;
2. Press down-arrow once to the embedded object. You should hear "Embedded
Object not available";
3. Press NVDA + numpad Enter to activate the embedded object. You should
hear "Embedded Object Unavailable Activate";
4. Press right arrow once. You should hear ""Space";
5. Press the space bar  to start and stop the sample audio of the narrator
speaking.

If pressing the space bar does not act as a toggle and the enter key does
not do the job either:
6. Press right arrow once;
7. Press space bar or main keyboard enter to play and stop playing the audio
sample.

Can anyone advise what to do about this?
A. Is it an NVDA problem?
B. Is it a Firefox problem?
c. Is it a BorrowBox problem for the developer Bolinda to see to?


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

Gene,

I see that the link spreads over two lines and is broken. Could you remove the carriage return that is breaking the link and try again?

Alternatively, you might like to try this link which does still work for me:

http://library.bolindadigital.com/southdublinBorrowBox

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

Hi,

I found a problem in Firefox when attempting to listen to a sample of an
audio book in the BorrowBox library system. I don't know if this is an NVDA
problem or exclusively a Firefox Flash Player issue. or if Bolinda need to
do something with their Java script. I should mention that the sighted user
has no problem playing the audio sample using a mouse.

I am using Windows 10,, NVDA 2016.1 and Firefox46.1 on a desktop PC.

If List members would like to see the problem for themselves I recommend the
following url:
https://fe.bolindadigital.com/wldcs_bol_fo/b2i/productOverview.html?b2bSite=
4834&browseItemId=366096&fromPage=1
It is not necessary to sign in to sample the reading of a title.

Here is a typical audio book display:

--Start of clip -----------------------
link graphic Railway Viaduct
embedded object unavailable (this should say "Preview" but doesn't!)
Link Reserve
On Loan, Available on 22/05/16
Link Railway Viaduct
Link Edward Marston
Read by Sam Dastor
Crime & Thriller, Historical Fiction
eAudiobook - Unabridged
---end of clip ------------------

The player for the audio sample is activated by an "embedded object" that is
flagged by NVDA as "not being available". The BorrowBox help page advises
that Adobe flash must be active to enable audio sampling of each title. I
have Adobe flash installed and active. For example, I can play any song in
YouTube in Firefox without any problem.

After many weeks of failing to play the preview, I found the following
workaround using NVDA:

From the top of the web page select eAudio if not already selected. Then
press "g" to find a book title. If the next   object after pressing
down-arrow once is "embedded Object" then you have an audio book and we can
start.

Here is the full sequence of steps:
1. Press G for the graphic of the book title;
2. Press down-arrow once to the embedded object. You should hear "Embedded
Object not available";
3. Press NVDA + numpad Enter to activate the embedded object. You should
hear "Embedded Object Unavailable Activate";
4. Press right arrow once. You should hear ""Space";
5. Press the space bar  to start and stop the sample audio of the narrator
speaking.

If pressing the space bar does not act as a toggle and the enter key does
not do the job either:
6. Press right arrow once;
7. Press space bar or main keyboard enter to play and stop playing the audio
sample.

Can anyone advise what to do about this?
A. Is it an NVDA problem?
B. Is it a Firefox problem?
c. Is it a BorrowBox problem for the developer Bolinda to see to?


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

Hi,

I found a problem in Firefox when attempting to listen to a sample of an
audio book in the BorrowBox library system. I don't know if this is an NVDA
problem or exclusively a Firefox Flash Player issue. or if Bolinda need to
do something with their Java script. I should mention that the sighted user
has no problem playing the audio sample using a mouse.

I am using Windows 10,, NVDA 2016.1 and Firefox46.1 on a desktop PC.

If List members would like to see the problem for themselves I recommend the
following url:
https://fe.bolindadigital.com/wldcs_bol_fo/b2i/productOverview.html?b2bSite=
4834&browseItemId=366096&fromPage=1
It is not necessary to sign in to sample the reading of a title.

Here is a typical audio book display:

--Start of clip -----------------------
link graphic Railway Viaduct
embedded object unavailable (this should say "Preview" but doesn't!)
Link Reserve
On Loan, Available on 22/05/16
Link Railway Viaduct
Link Edward Marston
Read by Sam Dastor
Crime & Thriller, Historical Fiction
eAudiobook - Unabridged
---end of clip ------------------

The player for the audio sample is activated by an "embedded object" that is
flagged by NVDA as "not being available". The BorrowBox help page advises
that Adobe flash must be active to enable audio sampling of each title. I
have Adobe flash installed and active. For example, I can play any song in
YouTube in Firefox without any problem.

After many weeks of failing to play the preview, I found the following
workaround using NVDA:

From the top of the web page select eAudio if not already selected. Then
press "g" to find a book title. If the next   object after pressing
down-arrow once is "embedded Object" then you have an audio book and we can
start.

Here is the full sequence of steps:
1. Press G for the graphic of the book title;
2. Press down-arrow once to the embedded object. You should hear "Embedded
Object not available";
3. Press NVDA + numpad Enter to activate the embedded object. You should
hear "Embedded Object Unavailable Activate";
4. Press right arrow once. You should hear ""Space";
5. Press the space bar  to start and stop the sample audio of the narrator
speaking.

If pressing the space bar does not act as a toggle and the enter key does
not do the job either:
6. Press right arrow once;
7. Press space bar or main keyboard enter to play and stop playing the audio
sample.

Can anyone advise what to do about this?
A. Is it an NVDA problem?
B. Is it a Firefox problem?
c. Is it a BorrowBox problem for the developer Bolinda to see to?


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

Hello,
This is the book I'm trying to read. The text is accessible with jaws, and
when selecting "infer reading order", then it is possible to access and read
it with NVDA. I can read the menus of acrobat reader, but not the text.
This text, in particular, is not an image PDF file and it does not need OCR
or any kind of conversion.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya
shah
Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2016 3:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA

Hi Afrim,
If possible, and if it does not infringe on confidentiality or copyright (do
ensure that), then, it would be really helpful if you could share a sample
file as one of those PDFs you receive from your professors. Practical
examination and analysis of those PDF files by members may result in more
accurate suggestions.
Thanks.

On 5/7/16, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com> wrote:

acrobat reader DC in my windows7 did not read even text pdf files and
it showed blank. so i was forced to downgrade

On 5/7/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

I am using Windows 7 with Acrobat Reader DC and NVDA 2016.01 works
perfectly well. Have you configured the Accessibility features of
Acrobat for screen readers? Can you not access the acrobat menus?
Is the document you are trying to read an image or is it text?

Cheers
Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Afrim
Sent: 07 May 2016 08:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA

Hello everyone,
I have seriously started using NVDA, and this time is more serious
than other times, because I have upgraded to windows 10, and it works
very well, and I do mean very very well. One of my biggest issues I'm
currently facing is reading pdf documents with NVDA. On the adobe
reader, or adobe acrobat reader, NVDA reads absolutely nothing. I
have to work everyday with those types of documents because my
university professors provide me with lectures or books in pdf
format, but I cannot access them.
So, could somebody help me with this problem because it is very
important to me. Every answer is appreciated.
sincerely,
Afrim

Sent from my iPhone

--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen reader
for Microsoft Windows To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA,
please visit http://www.nvaccess.org/ Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G
second generation Lollipop 5.0.2 Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09

acrobat reader DC in my windows7 did not read even text pdf files and
it showed blank. so i was forced to downgrade

On 5/7/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

I am using Windows 7 with Acrobat Reader DC and NVDA 2016.01 works
perfectly well. Have you configured the Accessibility features of
Acrobat for screen readers? Can you not access the acrobat menus?
Is the document you are trying to read an image or is it text?

Cheers
Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Afrim
Sent: 07 May 2016 08:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA

Hello everyone,
I have seriously started using NVDA, and this time is more serious
than other times, because I have upgraded to windows 10, and it works
very well, and I do mean very very well. One of my biggest issues I'm
currently facing is reading pdf documents with NVDA. On the adobe
reader, or adobe acrobat reader, NVDA reads absolutely nothing. I
have to work everyday with those types of documents because my
university professors provide me with lectures or books in pdf
format, but I cannot access them.
So, could somebody help me with this problem because it is very
important to me. Every answer is appreciated.
sincerely,
Afrim

Sent from my iPhone

--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.

On May 7, 2016, at 1:40 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

it is not free but qRead is very good accessible apps make it and maybe the best pdf reader to date.

On 07/05/2016 08:10, Afrim wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have seriously started using NVDA, and this time is more serious than other times, because I have upgraded to windows 10, and it works very well, and I do mean very very well. One of my biggest issues I'm currently facing is reading pdf documents with NVDA. On the adobe reader, or adobe acrobat reader, NVDA reads absolutely nothing. I have to work everyday with those types of documents because my university professors provide me with lectures or books in pdf format, but I cannot access them.
So, could somebody help me with this problem because it is very important to me. Every answer is appreciated.
sincerely,
Afrim

Sent from my iPhone

Hello everyone,
I have seriously started using NVDA, and this time is more serious than other times, because I have upgraded to windows 10, and it works very well, and I do mean very very well. One of my biggest issues I'm currently facing is reading pdf documents with NVDA. On the adobe reader, or adobe acrobat reader, NVDA reads absolutely nothing. I have to work everyday with those types of documents because my university professors provide me with lectures or books in pdf format, but I cannot access them.
So, could somebody help me with this problem because it is very important to me. Every answer is appreciated.
sincerely,
Afrim

Sent from my iPhone

I have recently updated TeamTAlk to the latest version. My problem is
that the progress bar announcements keep talking unlike the previous
version. AS a temproary solution, I switch of the progress bars. Is it
possible to setup a profile for this program. I have never setup any
profiles.

I have recently updated TeamTAlk to the latest version. My problem is
that the progress bar announcements keep talking unlike the previous
version. AS a temproary solution, I switch of the progress bars. Is it
possible to setup a profile for this program. I have never setup any
profiles.

acrobat reader DC in my windows7 did not read even text pdf files and
it showed blank. so i was forced to downgrade

On 5/7/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

I am using Windows 7 with Acrobat Reader DC and NVDA 2016.01 works
perfectly
well. Have you configured the Accessibility features of Acrobat for
screen
readers? Can you not access the acrobat menus? Is the document you are
trying to read an image or is it text?

Cheers
Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Afrim
Sent: 07 May 2016 08:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA

Hello everyone,
I have seriously started using NVDA, and this time is more serious than
other times, because I have upgraded to windows 10, and it works very
well,
and I do mean very very well. One of my biggest issues I'm currently
facing
is reading pdf documents with NVDA. On the adobe reader, or adobe acrobat
reader, NVDA reads absolutely nothing. I have to work everyday with those
types of documents because my university professors provide me with
lectures
or books in pdf format, but I cannot access them.
So, could somebody help me with this problem because it is very important
to
me. Every answer is appreciated.
sincerely,
Afrim

Sent from my iPhone

--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.

I am using Windows 7 with Acrobat Reader DC and NVDA 2016.01 works
perfectly
well. Have you configured the Accessibility features of Acrobat for
screen
readers? Can you not access the acrobat menus? Is the document you are
trying to read an image or is it text?

Cheers
Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Afrim
Sent: 07 May 2016 08:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA

Hello everyone,
I have seriously started using NVDA, and this time is more serious than
other times, because I have upgraded to windows 10, and it works very well,
and I do mean very very well. One of my biggest issues I'm currently facing
is reading pdf documents with NVDA. On the adobe reader, or adobe acrobat
reader, NVDA reads absolutely nothing. I have to work everyday with those
types of documents because my university professors provide me with
lectures
or books in pdf format, but I cannot access them.
So, could somebody help me with this problem because it is very important
to
me. Every answer is appreciated.
sincerely,
Afrim

Sent from my iPhone