Re: New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible to work!
Hi,
Now, it's working, but i'm going to continue making tests.
Thanks.
Ângelo Abrantes
Às 00:36 de 12-04-2018, Quentin
Christensen escreveu:
Hi Ângelo,
Kind regards
Quentin.
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Sorry disregard my earlier message Quentin. it works fine and fix
the problem now. Smile.
Robert Mendoza
On 4/12/2018 4:51 PM, Robert Mendoza
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Hi,
Not sure it does not appears the new version for the next build
stated to your link. Kindly check.
next build snapshot
Version: 15024,ac2d9f33
Date:Wed Apr 11 22:03:01 2018
Robert Mendoza
On 4/12/2018 7:38 AM, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
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Re: announcing end of lines in Scite editor
It's strange.:)
When i press num 2 three times, it says correctly End of line. So
character is OK. But when i move cursor on it, nvda says Blank...
Jiri
Dne 08.04.2018 v 15:33 Cohn, Jonathan
napsal(a):
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What Gene and I were working on, is that
often times NVDA will say blank for a character it has not
been trained to recognize. In these cases if you click numpad
2 three times, NVDA will speak the underlying code associated
with that character.
So please enter the program, move to where
NVDA says blank and then hit the number 2 three times, if you
do this correctly NVDA should say something like 1392 provide
that code back to the list. Then we may be able to help you.
When Gene attempted to get this code though, it didn’t seem to
work so in that case you might have to just live with knowning
that blank might be a new line or a Chinese character. (LOL)
Have a great weekend,
Jonathan
Ok,
i have to better specify this think.
Almost everythink is ok in Scite with nvda.
Only when you moving with right arrow cross end of
line, nvda says Blank instead of New line.
So this behaviour is dependend only on colors
combination in Scite symbol for new line i think.
Dne 06.04.2018 v 19:17 Gene
napsal(a):
I don't have the technical
knowledge to explain the different information you get
and in what order without taking notes and transcribing
the information NVDA provides. I'll say that, if you
turn input help on, then press numpad 2, you will hear a
description of what happens when you press that key
once, twice, or three times quickly. You just have to
press it once when input help is on and all three
descriptions will be given. Pressing the key three
times gives you codes for the character you are on when
you press that key. It doesn't matter how you are
reviewing the screen. Any character that you are on
will be described.
I'm giving desktop layout
commands for input help and the current character
command. I don't use the laptop layout.
I just found something
interesting. It appears that such information may not
be available for control characters. It would be
interesting to get an explanation of why. I tried using
the current character on a hard return. I just heard
blank, no matter how I used the command. Evidently,
control characters fall outside of the code NVDA
reports.
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Subject:
Re: [nvda] announcing end of lines in Scite editor
Would it be possible to use review
cursor's Say Character and see what the UNICODE is that is
being spoken as "blank" and then add it to a dictionary as
a different expression? I haven't played with NVDA enough
to know. Or perhaps even just the regular expression .$
could be used in a dictionary?
On 4/6/18, 11:41 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io
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wrote:
Hmm what I see is nothing is spoken when you hit
return, and if you leave a
line empty it just says blank, much like many editors.
This tool behaves a
bit like the editor used by Dolphins scripting system
as I recall.
Brian
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From: "Jiří Fenz" <jirifenz@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] announcing end of lines in Scite
editor
>I think that it's only about gui element
behaviour.
>
> Announcing empty instead of New line is the same
regardless on lf, cr or
> crlf end of line.
>
> So i think that solving this is about advanced
configuration of Scite to
> change how the eol symbol is viewed or forcing
autoit to recognize that
> actual symbol as standart new line.
>
> Here is link for portable version of Scite i'm
using, if someone want to
> try it directly.
>
> https://www.autoitscript.com/cgi-bin/getfile.pl?../autoit3/scite/download/SciTE4AutoIt3_Portable.zip
>
> Jiri Fenz
>
>
>
> Dne 06.04.2018 v 10:56 Shaun Everiss napsal(a):
>> Well it depends I guess you have to look in
the editer options it
>> would have to do with how the symbon is
rendered for nvda to read.
>>
>> Simplest way would be if there was a
dictenary for that program if you
>> can have a spaciffic definition for a
particular program I am not sure
>> if thats possible, but you could define the
word empty to end of line
>> or do it for the global deffinition and when
anything is empty it will
>> be end of line instead.
>>
>> Thats not going to really work that well.
>>
>> We need to find what that symbol actually is
that is generated.
>>
>> Is it generating the standard carrage return
or linefead, cr/lf symbol
>> for example.
>>
>> crlf symbols usually at least when I did
communications and things
>> back in dos usually mean, new line, line end,
end of line or simply an
>> empty space depending on the os, unix/linux,
windows or dos.
>>
>> In these days, windows/dos has almost the
same charset with windows
>> having more of them and linux has a few more.
>>
>> However depending what this thing was
developed for, ie unix that
>> could explain the issue you are having,
things are translated that
>> symbol may not be translated as such so there
may be that issue to
>> worry about.
>>
>> Ofcause if you can get a document with just
that symbon in it and send
>> it at whoever handles the symbol database
then it should be ok.
>>
>> What happens if you create a document with a
few new lines or line
>> breaks in them and view it in another text
editor.
>>
>> Ie notepad, if the symbol is still empty,
then its a symbol issue but
>> if the symbol is read correctly, it could
simbly be what the editor is
>> outputting to be translated in which case not
much we can do.
>>
>> If the symbol from scyte you get in notepad
back is just utter crap
>> then it could be an untranslated symbol
probably from unix or something.
>>
>> The next thing to do is send it back here and
get someone to find out
>> what that symbol comes from, latx for example
has different symbols to
>> text and other programs may have different
symbols based on age to a
>> point, etc.
>>
>> So if you find that out then the symbol can
be added and your issue is
>> solved.
>>
>> What I fear is that its just what the program
outputs at nvda in which
>> case nothing can be done really.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/04/2018 8:45 p.m., Jiří Fenz wrote:
>>> Helllo all,
>>>
>>> i'm using Scite for coding in Autoit.
>>>
>>> Accessibility of thys program is almost
total, but when moving with
>>> right or left arrow betveen lines, nvda
says Empty instead of New line.
>>>
>>> Is here some option to set classic End of
line character in scite to
>>> make it announce new line the same way as
for example in notepad?
>>>
>>> With best regards
>>>
>>> Jiri Fenz
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Hi,
Not sure it does not appears the new version for the next build
stated to your link. Kindly check.
next build snapshot
Version: 15024,ac2d9f33
Date:Wed Apr 11 22:03:01 2018
Robert Mendoza
On 4/12/2018 7:38 AM, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
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Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi Adriani
There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen reader related resources off the main website at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web pages on my website that point to that page.
I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.
These can be changed or added to.
Gene nz
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On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Adriani
Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda blogs? about using nvda? Not quite
sure of other sections if i do and would be more a point to page but not jeffs one.
Even though he had a good site.
I am guessing we do have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc but not in the one place.
Gene nz
On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:
Gene,
thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph’s new tutorials set “welcome to NVDA 2018” can be included as well?
Best
Adriani
Hi Adriani
I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.
Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do it the other way that was posted.
I have not any XP machines here now to test with.
The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting.
Gene nz
On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:
Hello,
we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well and it works perfectly.
NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1
Best
Adriani
Hi
the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541
You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.
So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to fix the problem.
Gene nz
On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:
hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.
how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?
does it have solution for users of xp?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!
On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
HI guys
Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
RECENTLY UPDATED:
Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.
Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which
has been updated for 2018.1
Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and
product reviews page
http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html
NEW:
Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA
tutorials for other programs page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html
as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.
Gene NZ
On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Gene NZ!
Thanks so much for what you do for us!
God bless!
David Moore
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From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
Hi guys
Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages
New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with
the NVDA screen reader by Hareth and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page
under the troubleshooting section
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a
tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA
tutorials learning the basics page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html
Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the
keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html
Gene NZ
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https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
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Re: can the user manual be downloaded to IOS?
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Yes its a standard html file so it should work fine in any mobile or tablets browser. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] can the user manual be downloaded to IOS? In such cases doing a google search may find the item online. In this case, searching for NVDA manual or NVDA user guide will find the entire guide online in one file. https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.htmlGene ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Clement Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:59 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] can the user manual be downloaded to IOS? Hello, I am a blind user with an iphone running IOS 11.3 and the VoiceOver screen reader. I would like to download a copy of the NVDA user manual to my iphone where I can then read (i.e. listen to) it using the VoiceDream Reader app. I find this a good way to read the user guide when I do not have my laptop with me. I also often access it on my iphone while I am using NVDA on my laptop. Is it possible to download the current user guide to accomplish this? And yes, I do know that the user guide is part of NVDA itself and thus available on my laptop. Thanks, Dave Clement Winnipeg MB
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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible to work!
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I noticed it but thought maybe it was some corruption due to me having far too many things open at once, so I did not press it yesterday. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible to work! Hi Ângelo, Apologies for the problems. We've identified the issue and pushed out a new Next build which should address it: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Please let us know if you still have problems after updating. Kind regards Quentin. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@gmail.com> wrote: After my last message, I tryed to work with the new next, using windows7 pro, but it's impossible! I can't change between folders! Here are my .log errors:
Speaking [u'Angelo'] ERROR - core.CorePump.Notify (15:49:04.130): errors in this core pump cycle Traceback (most recent call last): File "core.pyc", line 443, in Notify File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 880, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 668, in processFocusWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 684, in processFocusNVDAEvent File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__ File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 643, in _get_shouldAllowIAccessibleFocusEvent File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__ File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1564, in _get_parent File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__ File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache File "NVDAObjects\window\__init__.pyc", line 263, in _get_parent File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 87, in __call__ File "appModules\explorer.pyc", line 236, in chooseNVDAObjectOverlayClasses NameError: global name 'windowClassName' is not defined IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:49:07.430):
Thanks. Ângelo Abrantes Às 15:41 de 11-04-2018, Ângelo Miguel Abrantes escreveu:
It's a very good idea!
Thanks.
Ângelo Abrantes
Às 14:13 de 11-04-2018, Luis Carlos Gonzáles Moráles escreveu:
It's so nice and entertaining to me. No going to separate settings, this looks like Window Eyes in terms of structure.
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It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know. Brian
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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible towork!
Ah! I see what happened in the settings. I did not know about that change. Great idea putting all the general settings for the NVDA core under settings. Thanks a lot! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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From: Quentin ChristensenSent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:36 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: [nvda] New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible towork! On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@...> wrote: After my last message, I tryed to work with the new next, using windows7 pro, but it's impossible! I can't change between folders! Here are my .log errors:
Speaking [u'Angelo'] ERROR - core.CorePump.Notify (15:49:04.130): errors in this core pump cycle Traceback (most recent call last): File "core.pyc", line 443, in Notify File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 880, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 668, in processFocusWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 684, in processFocusNVDAEvent File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__ File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 643, in _get_shouldAllowIAccessibleFocusEvent File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__ File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1564, in _get_parent File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__ File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache File "NVDAObjects\window\__init__.pyc", line 263, in _get_parent File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 87, in __call__ File "appModules\explorer.pyc", line 236, in chooseNVDAObjectOverlayClasses NameError: global name 'windowClassName' is not defined IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:49:07.430):
Thanks. Ângelo Abrantes Às 15:41 de 11-04-2018, Ângelo Miguel Abrantes escreveu: It's a very good idea!
Thanks.
Ângelo Abrantes
Às 14:13 de 11-04-2018, Luis Carlos Gonzáles Moráles escreveu: It's so nice and entertaining to me. No going to separate settings, this looks like Window Eyes in terms of structure.
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know. Brian
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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next
Thanks Quentin! I just installed the latest next snapshot, And everything works great again. Thank you so much for fixing this so quickly! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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From: Quentin ChristensenSent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:43 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: [nvda] New settings property sheet system in Next Hi everyone, Firstly, for anyone who tried yesterday's Next build, we found a couple of issues and recommend updating to the latest version for fixes: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Re the shortcut keys, yes the original shortcut keys still work, you can press NVDA+control+k to open the dialog directly in Keyboard settings, NVDA+control+m for mouse settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings, etc. Also, re the search idea, yes we are definitely planning that. We wanted to get the new dialog out there initially with essentially the existing functionality, and then build on that, but a settings search feature is planned. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote: Hi
yep that is the add on i have it installed here on my computer and like it. I just looked it up to see what it was called.
And before downloaded the next snapshot to look at that approach. I must admit i do like the search function in it.
Gene nz
On 4/12/2018 10:15 AM, mk360 wrote: > Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That was a > good approach, I like the new settings too. > El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió: >> Hi >> >> >> Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next >> snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there >> already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked >> which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to >> find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting >> you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one. >> >> >> But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn >> settings on and off with a check box. >> >> >> When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but >> maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go. >> >> >> >> Gene nz >> >> >> >> On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote: >>> sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this >>> getting some love at last. >>> >>> On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote: >>>> It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for >>>> settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though >>>> whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know. >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> bglists@... >>>> Sent via blueyonder. >>>> Please address personal E-mail to:- >>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>>> in the display name field. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > >
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Hi! I just installed the newest next snapshot: 15024, And it works great again when opening folders and all with file Explorer. Thanks a lot! Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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From: Don HSent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: [nvda] latest next version Control panel now reads as it should with this next. On 4/11/2018 6:38 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote: > Hi everyone, > > There's a new Next build which (hopefully) addresses those issues caused > by the #5751 fix. For those affected, please try the new version and do > advise if you still have problems: > https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ > > Kind regards > > Quentin. > > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Michel Such <michel.such@... > <mailto:michel.such@...>> wrote: > > It causes several other problems: > > - Windows titles are not announced when swithing thru them with alt+tab. > > NVDA does not seem to be aware when you open a folder. > > Michel Such <mailto:michel.such@...> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Michel, son chat et son ordi > Le 11/04/2018 à 17:42, Joseph Lee a écrit : >> Hi, >> This is caused by a commit that supposedly fixes how NVDA announces clock icon on the notification area. The issue at hand is: >> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751 >> <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751> >> I have notified NV Access and the person who wrote this fix (not me) as this is a critical bug. >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H >> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:39 AM >> To:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> Subject: [nvda] latest next version >> >> I installed the latest next version of NVDA on my Win 10 laptop. >> Rebooted the computer to make sure things were set. Then I went to the control panel and NVDA would not read any of the entries in the control panel. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Quentin Christensen > Training and Support Manager > > Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: > http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ > > www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess > Twitter: @NVAccess >
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Control panel now reads as it should with this next.
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On 4/11/2018 6:38 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote: Hi everyone, There's a new Next build which (hopefully) addresses those issues caused by the #5751 fix. For those affected, please try the new version and do advise if you still have problems: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Kind regards Quentin. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Michel Such <michel.such@free.fr <mailto:michel.such@free.fr>> wrote: It causes several other problems: - Windows titles are not announced when swithing thru them with alt+tab. NVDA does not seem to be aware when you open a folder. Michel Such <mailto:michel.such@free.fr> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michel, son chat et son ordi Le 11/04/2018 à 17:42, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi, This is caused by a commit that supposedly fixes how NVDA announces clock icon on the notification area. The issue at hand is: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751 <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751> I have notified NV Access and the person who wrote this fix (not me) as this is a critical bug. Cheers, Joseph
-----Original Message----- From:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:39 AM To:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: [nvda] latest next version
I installed the latest next version of NVDA on my Win 10 laptop. Rebooted the computer to make sure things were set. Then I went to the control panel and NVDA would not read any of the entries in the control panel.
-- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next
Yes, everything seems working alright!
Rui Fontes
Às 00:43 de 12/04/2018, Quentin Christensen escreveu:
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Hi everyone, Firstly, for anyone who tried yesterday's Next build, we found a couple of issues and recommend updating to the latest version for fixes: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Re the shortcut keys, yes the original shortcut keys still work, you can press NVDA+control+k to open the dialog directly in Keyboard settings, NVDA+control+m for mouse settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings, etc. Also, re the search idea, yes we are definitely planning that. We wanted to get the new dialog out there initially with essentially the existing functionality, and then build on that, but a settings search feature is planned. Kind regards Quentin. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz <mailto:hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>> wrote: Hi yep that is the add on i have it installed here on my computer and like it. I just looked it up to see what it was called. And before downloaded the next snapshot to look at that approach. I must admit i do like the search function in it. Gene nz On 4/12/2018 10:15 AM, mk360 wrote: > Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That was a > good approach, I like the new settings too. > El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió: >> Hi >> >> >> Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next >> snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there >> already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked >> which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to >> find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting >> you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one. >> >> >> But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn >> settings on and off with a check box. >> >> >> When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but >> maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go. >> >> >> >> Gene nz >> >> >> >> On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote: >>> sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this >>> getting some love at last. >>> >>> On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote: >>>> It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for >>>> settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though >>>> whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know. >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> >>>> Sent via blueyonder. >>>> Please address personal E-mail to:- >>>> briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>, putting 'Brian Gaff' >>>> in the display name field. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next
Hi everyone,
Firstly, for anyone who tried yesterday's Next build, we found a couple of issues and recommend updating to the latest version for fixes: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/
Re the shortcut keys, yes the original shortcut keys still work, you can press NVDA+control+k to open the dialog directly in Keyboard settings, NVDA+control+m for mouse settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings, etc.
Also, re the search idea, yes we are definitely planning that. We wanted to get the new dialog out there initially with essentially the existing functionality, and then build on that, but a settings search feature is planned.
Kind regards
Quentin.
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote: Hi
yep that is the add on i have it installed here on my computer and like
it. I just looked it up to see what it was called.
And before downloaded the next snapshot to look at that approach. I must
admit i do like the search function in it.
Gene nz
On 4/12/2018 10:15 AM, mk360 wrote:
> Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That was a
> good approach, I like the new settings too.
> El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió:
>> Hi
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>> Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next
>> snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there
>> already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked
>> which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to
>> find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting
>> you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one.
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>> But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn
>> settings on and off with a check box.
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>> When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but
>> maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.
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>> Gene nz
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>> On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this
>>> getting some love at last.
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
>>>> It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
>>>> settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
>>>> whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Michel Such <michel.such@...> wrote:
It causes several other problems:
- Windows titles are not announced when swithing thru them with
alt+tab.
NVDA does not seem to be aware when you open a folder.
Le 11/04/2018 à 17:42, Joseph Lee a
écrit :
Hi,
This is caused by a commit that supposedly fixes how NVDA announces clock icon on the notification area. The issue at hand is:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751
I have notified NV Access and the person who wrote this fix (not me) as this is a critical bug.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] latest next version
I installed the latest next version of NVDA on my Win 10 laptop.
Rebooted the computer to make sure things were set. Then I went to the control panel and NVDA would not read any of the entries in the control panel.
-- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager
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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible to work!
Hi Ângelo,
Kind regards
Quentin.
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@...> wrote: After my last message, I tryed to work with the new next, using windows7 pro, but it's impossible! I can't change between folders! Here are my .log errors:
Speaking [u'Angelo']
ERROR - core.CorePump.Notify (15:49:04.130):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 443, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 880, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 668, in processFocusWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 684, in processFocusNVDAEvent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 643, in _get_shouldAllowIAccessibleFocusEvent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1564, in _get_parent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\window\__init__.pyc", line 263, in _get_parent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 87, in __call__
File "appModules\explorer.pyc", line 236, in chooseNVDAObjectOverlayClasses
NameError: global name 'windowClassName' is not defined
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:49:07.430):
Thanks.
Ângelo Abrantes
Às 15:41 de 11-04-2018, Ângelo Miguel Abrantes escreveu:
It's a very good idea!
Thanks.
Ângelo Abrantes
Às 14:13 de 11-04-2018, Luis Carlos Gonzáles Moráles escreveu:
It's so nice and entertaining to me. No going to separate settings, this
looks like Window Eyes in terms of structure.
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
Brian
bglists@...
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having trouble entering registration key for MalwareBytes

Giles Turnbull
I decided I like Malware Bytes enough to pay for the premium version and I have received the email with my registration key. I can find the button that says Activate Licence, but it doesn't seem to want to react to any action on that button — not with Enter, Spacebar or object navigation.
Has anybody else successfully registered the Premium version and, if so, can you help me figure out what I'm doing wrong?
Of interest, in a different registration / setup screen, it says to enter the registration code or, if you received an ID then you need to check the relevant box and enter the ID ... I received a code in my email but there doesn't seem to be any text box in which to type or paste my registration key. Similarly the use of navigation using the e shortcut for an edit box doesn't work, and using object navigation doesn't reveal anywhere to enter the key.
Any ideas gratefully received :)
Giles
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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi
yep that is the add on i have it installed here on my computer and like it. I just looked it up to see what it was called.
And before downloaded the next snapshot to look at that approach. I must admit i do like the search function in it.
Gene nz
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On 4/12/2018 10:15 AM, mk360 wrote: Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That was a good approach, I like the new settings too. El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió:
Hi
Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one.
But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn settings on and off with a check box.
When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.
Gene nz
On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this getting some love at last.
On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know. Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next
Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That was a good approach, I like the new settings too.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió: Hi
Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one.
But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn settings on and off with a check box.
When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.
Gene nz
On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this getting some love at last.
On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know. Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi
Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one.
But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn settings on and off with a check box.
When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.
Gene nz
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On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote: sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this getting some love at last.
On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know. Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next
sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this getting some love at last.
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On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote: It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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