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Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Adriani

There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen reader related resources off the main website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web pages on my website that point to that page.

I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.
These can be changed  or added to.

Gene nz
 

On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Adriani


Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources  which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda blogs? about using nvda? Not quite sure of other sections if i do and would be more a point to page but not jeffs one.

Even though he had a good site.


I am guessing we do  have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc but not in the one place.


Gene nz







On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Gene,

 

thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph’s new tutorials set “welcome to NVDA 2018” can be included as well?

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2018 03:21
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

 

I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.

 

Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do it the other way that was posted.

 

I have not any XP machines here now to test with.

 

The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Hello,

 

we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well and it works perfectly. NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this file:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. März 2018 19:47
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi

 

the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541

 

You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.

 

So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to fix the problem.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:

hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.
how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?
does it have solution for users of xp?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!
 
On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
HI guys
 
Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
 
RECENTLY UPDATED:
 
 
Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.
 
Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which
has been updated for 2018.1
 
Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and
product reviews page
http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html
 
NEW:
 
Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA
tutorials for other programs page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html
as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.
 
Gene NZ
 
On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Gene NZ!
Thanks so much for what you do for us!
God bless!
David Moore
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From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
 
 
Hi guys
 
Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages
 
New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with
the NVDA screen reader by Hareth  and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page
under the troubleshooting section
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a
tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA
tutorials learning the basics page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html
Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the
keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html
 
Gene NZ
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screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
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visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.
 
 
 
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.
 
 
 

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


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Re: can the user manual be downloaded to IOS?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes its a standard html file so it should work fine in any mobile or tablets browser.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can the user manual be downloaded to IOS?


In such cases doing a google search may find the item online. In this case, searching for NVDA manual or NVDA user guide will find the entire guide online in one file.
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Dave Clement
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can the user manual be downloaded to IOS?


Hello,

I am a blind user with an iphone running IOS 11.3 and the VoiceOver screen reader. I would like to download a copy of the NVDA user manual to my iphone where I can then read (i.e. listen to) it using the VoiceDream Reader app. I find this a good way to read the user guide when I do not have my laptop with me. I also often access it on my iphone while I am using NVDA on my laptop.

Is it possible to download the current user guide to accomplish this?

And yes, I do know that the user guide is part of NVDA itself and thus available on my laptop.

Thanks,

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


Re: New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible to work!

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I noticed it but thought maybe it was some corruption due to me having far too many things open at once, so I did not press it yesterday.
Brian

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From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible to work!


Hi Ângelo,

Apologies for the problems. We've identified the issue and pushed out a
new Next build which should address it:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Please let us know if you
still have problems after updating.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@gmail.com>
wrote:

After my last message, I tryed to work with the new next, using windows7
pro, but it's impossible! I can't change between folders! Here are my .log
errors:


Speaking [u'Angelo']
ERROR - core.CorePump.Notify (15:49:04.130):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 443, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 880, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 668, in processFocusWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 684, in processFocusNVDAEvent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 643, in
_get_shouldAllowIAccessibleFocusEvent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1564, in _get_parent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\window\__init__.pyc", line 263, in _get_parent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 87, in __call__
File "appModules\explorer.pyc", line 236, in
chooseNVDAObjectOverlayClasses
NameError: global name 'windowClassName' is not defined
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:49:07.430):


Thanks.
Ângelo Abrantes
Às 15:41 de 11-04-2018, Ângelo Miguel Abrantes escreveu:

It's a very good idea!

Thanks.

Ângelo Abrantes


Às 14:13 de 11-04-2018, Luis Carlos Gonzáles Moráles escreveu:

It's so nice and entertaining to me. No going to separate settings, this
looks like Window Eyes in terms of structure.

Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
Brian

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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible towork!

David Moore
 

Ah!

I see what happened in the settings. I did not know about that change.

Great idea putting all the general settings for the NVDA core under settings.

Thanks a lot!

David Moore

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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible towork!

 

Hi Ângelo,

 

Apologies for the problems.  We've identified the issue and pushed out a new Next build which should address it: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/  Please let us know if you still have problems after updating.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@...> wrote:

After my last message, I tryed to work with the new next, using windows7 pro, but it's impossible! I can't change between folders! Here are my .log errors:


Speaking [u'Angelo']
ERROR - core.CorePump.Notify (15:49:04.130):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "core.pyc", line 443, in Notify
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 880, in pumpAll
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 668, in processFocusWinEvent
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 684, in processFocusNVDAEvent
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 643, in _get_shouldAllowIAccessibleFocusEvent
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1564, in _get_parent
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\window\__init__.pyc", line 263, in _get_parent
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 87, in __call__
  File "appModules\explorer.pyc", line 236, in chooseNVDAObjectOverlayClasses
NameError: global name 'windowClassName' is not defined
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:49:07.430):


Thanks.
Ângelo Abrantes
Às 15:41 de 11-04-2018, Ângelo Miguel Abrantes escreveu:

It's a very good idea!

Thanks.

Ângelo Abrantes


Às 14:13 de 11-04-2018, Luis Carlos Gonzáles Moráles escreveu:

It's so nice and entertaining to me. No going to separate settings, this
looks like Window Eyes in terms of structure.

Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
Brian

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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next

David Moore
 

Thanks Quentin!

I just installed the latest next snapshot,

And everything works great again.

Thank you so much for fixing this so quickly!

David Moore

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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New settings property sheet system in Next

 

Hi everyone,

 

Firstly, for anyone who tried yesterday's Next build, we found a couple of issues and recommend updating to the latest version for fixes: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

 

Re the shortcut keys, yes the original shortcut keys still work, you can press NVDA+control+k to open the dialog directly in Keyboard settings, NVDA+control+m for mouse settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings, etc.

 

Also, re the search idea, yes we are definitely planning that.  We wanted to get the new dialog out there initially with essentially the existing functionality, and then build on that, but a settings search feature is planned.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


yep that is the add on i have it installed here on my computer and like
it. I just looked it up to see what it was called.


And before downloaded the next snapshot to look at that approach. I must
admit i do like the search function in it.


Gene nz





On 4/12/2018 10:15 AM, mk360 wrote:
> Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That was a
> good approach, I like the new settings too.
> El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió:
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next
>> snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there
>> already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked
>> which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to
>> find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting
>> you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one.
>>
>>
>> But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn
>> settings on and off with a check box.
>>
>>
>> When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but
>> maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene nz
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this
>>> getting some love at last.
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
>>>> It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
>>>> settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
>>>> whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
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>>>> in the display name field.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





 

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Re: latest next version

David Moore
 

Hi!

I just installed the newest next snapshot:

15024,

And it works great again when opening folders and all with file Explorer.

Thanks a lot!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest next version

 

Control panel now reads as it should with this next.

 

On 4/11/2018 6:38 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> There's a new Next build which (hopefully) addresses those issues caused

> by the #5751 fix.  For those affected, please try the new version and do

> advise if you still have problems:

> https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

>

> Kind regards

>

> Quentin.

>

>

>

> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Michel Such <michel.such@...

> <mailto:michel.such@...>> wrote:

>

>     It causes several other problems:

>

>     - Windows titles are not announced when swithing thru them with alt+tab.

>

>     NVDA does not seem to be aware when you open a folder.

>

>     Michel Such <mailto:michel.such@...>

>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>     Michel, son chat et son ordi

>     Le 11/04/2018 à 17:42, Joseph Lee a écrit :

>>     Hi,

>>     This is caused by a commit that supposedly fixes how NVDA announces clock icon on the notification area. The issue at hand is:

>>     https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751

>>     <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751>

>>     I have notified NV Access and the person who wrote this fix (not me) as this is a critical bug.

>>     Cheers,

>>     Joseph

>> 

>>     -----Original Message-----

>>     From:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  On Behalf Of Don H

>>     Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:39 AM

>>     To:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>     Subject: [nvda] latest next version

>> 

>>     I installed the latest next version of NVDA on my Win 10 laptop.

>>     Rebooted the computer to make sure things were set.  Then I went to the control panel and NVDA would not read any of the entries in the control panel.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

>

>

> --

> Quentin Christensen

> Training and Support Manager

>

> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:

> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

>

> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>

> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess

> Twitter: @NVAccess

>

 

 

 

 


Re: latest next version

Don H
 

Control panel now reads as it should with this next.

On 4/11/2018 6:38 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,
There's a new Next build which (hopefully) addresses those issues caused by the #5751 fix.  For those affected, please try the new version and do advise if you still have problems: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Michel Such <michel.such@free.fr <mailto:michel.such@free.fr>> wrote:
It causes several other problems:
- Windows titles are not announced when swithing thru them with alt+tab.
NVDA does not seem to be aware when you open a folder.
Michel Such <mailto:michel.such@free.fr>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michel, son chat et son ordi
Le 11/04/2018 à 17:42, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi,
This is caused by a commit that supposedly fixes how NVDA announces clock icon on the notification area. The issue at hand is:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751>
I have notified NV Access and the person who wrote this fix (not me) as this is a critical bug.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:39 AM
To:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] latest next version

I installed the latest next version of NVDA on my Win 10 laptop.
Rebooted the computer to make sure things were set. Then I went to the control panel and NVDA would not read any of the entries in the control panel.






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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, everything seems working alright!

Rui Fontes


Às 00:43 de 12/04/2018, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

Hi everyone,
Firstly, for anyone who tried yesterday's Next build, we found a couple of issues and recommend updating to the latest version for fixes: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/
Re the shortcut keys, yes the original shortcut keys still work, you can press NVDA+control+k to open the dialog directly in Keyboard settings, NVDA+control+m for mouse settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings, etc.
Also, re the search idea, yes we are definitely planning that.  We wanted to get the new dialog out there initially with essentially the existing functionality, and then build on that, but a settings search feature is planned.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz <mailto:hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>> wrote:
Hi
yep that is the add on i have it installed here on my computer and like
it. I just looked it up to see what it was called.
And before downloaded the next snapshot to look at that approach. I must
admit i do like the search function in it.
Gene nz
On 4/12/2018 10:15 AM, mk360 wrote:
> Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That
was a
> good approach, I like the new settings too.
> El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió:
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next
>> snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there
>> already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i
liked
>> which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to
>> find the settings but the best part was you could search for the
setting
>> you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the
gesture one.
>>
>>
>> But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to
turn
>> settings on and off with a check box.
>>
>>
>> When looking around in the settings i could not find a search
box but
>> maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene nz
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this
>>> getting some love at last.
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
>>>> It would be nice to find out what people think of the new
system for
>>>> settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice
though
>>>> whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
>>>> Brian
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putting 'Brian Gaff'
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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

Firstly, for anyone who tried yesterday's Next build, we found a couple of issues and recommend updating to the latest version for fixes: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

Re the shortcut keys, yes the original shortcut keys still work, you can press NVDA+control+k to open the dialog directly in Keyboard settings, NVDA+control+m for mouse settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings, etc.

Also, re the search idea, yes we are definitely planning that.  We wanted to get the new dialog out there initially with essentially the existing functionality, and then build on that, but a settings search feature is planned.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


yep that is the add on i have it installed here on my computer and like
it. I just looked it up to see what it was called.


And before downloaded the next snapshot to look at that approach. I must
admit i do like the search function in it.


Gene nz




On 4/12/2018 10:15 AM, mk360 wrote:
> Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That was a
> good approach, I like the new settings too.
> El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió:
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next
>> snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there
>> already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked
>> which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to
>> find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting
>> you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one.
>>
>>
>> But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn
>> settings on and off with a check box.
>>
>>
>> When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but
>> maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene nz
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this
>>> getting some love at last.
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
>>>> It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
>>>> settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
>>>> whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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Re: latest next version

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

There's a new Next build which (hopefully) addresses those issues caused by the #5751 fix.  For those affected, please try the new version and do advise if you still have problems: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Michel Such <michel.such@...> wrote:

It causes several other problems:

- Windows titles are not announced when swithing thru them with alt+tab.

NVDA does not seem to be aware when you open a folder.

Le 11/04/2018 à 17:42, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi,
This is caused by a commit that supposedly fixes how NVDA announces clock icon on the notification area. The issue at hand is:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751
I have notified NV Access and the person who wrote this fix (not me) as this is a critical bug.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] latest next version

I installed the latest next version of NVDA on my Win 10 laptop. 
Rebooted the computer to make sure things were set.  Then I went to the control panel and NVDA would not read any of the entries in the control panel.










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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible to work!

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Ângelo,

Apologies for the problems.  We've identified the issue and pushed out a new Next build which should address it: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/  Please let us know if you still have problems after updating.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@...> wrote:
After my last message, I tryed to work with the new next, using windows7 pro, but it's impossible! I can't change between folders! Here are my .log errors:


Speaking [u'Angelo']
ERROR - core.CorePump.Notify (15:49:04.130):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "core.pyc", line 443, in Notify
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 880, in pumpAll
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 668, in processFocusWinEvent
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 684, in processFocusNVDAEvent
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 643, in _get_shouldAllowIAccessibleFocusEvent
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1564, in _get_parent
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\window\__init__.pyc", line 263, in _get_parent
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 87, in __call__
  File "appModules\explorer.pyc", line 236, in chooseNVDAObjectOverlayClasses
NameError: global name 'windowClassName' is not defined
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:49:07.430):


Thanks.
Ângelo Abrantes
Às 15:41 de 11-04-2018, Ângelo Miguel Abrantes escreveu:
It's a very good idea!

Thanks.

Ângelo Abrantes


Às 14:13 de 11-04-2018, Luis Carlos Gonzáles Moráles escreveu:
It's so nice and entertaining to me. No going to separate settings, this
looks like Window Eyes in terms of structure.

Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
Brian

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having trouble entering registration key for MalwareBytes

Giles Turnbull
 

I decided I like Malware Bytes enough to pay for the premium version and I have received the email with my registration key. I can find the button that says Activate Licence, but it doesn't seem to want to react to any action on that button — not with Enter, Spacebar or object navigation.

Has anybody else successfully registered the Premium version and, if so, can you help me figure out what I'm doing wrong?

Of interest, in a different registration / setup screen, it says to enter the registration code or, if you received an ID then you need to check the relevant box and enter the ID ... I received a code in my email but there doesn't seem to be any text box in which to type or paste my registration key. Similarly the use of navigation using the e shortcut for an edit box doesn't work, and using object navigation doesn't reveal anywhere to enter the key.

Any ideas gratefully received :)

Giles


Re: New settings property sheet system in Next

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


yep that is the add on i have it installed here on my computer and like
it. I just looked it up to see what it was called.


And before downloaded the next snapshot to look at that approach. I must
admit i do like the search function in it.


Gene nz

On 4/12/2018 10:15 AM, mk360 wrote:
Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That was a
good approach, I like the new settings too.
El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió:
Hi


Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next
snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there
already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked
which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to
find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting
you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one.


But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn
settings on and off with a check box.


When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but
maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.



Gene nz



On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this
getting some love at last.

On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next

mk360
 

Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That was a good approach, I like the new settings too.

El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió:
Hi


Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next
snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there
already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked
which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to
find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting
you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one.


But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn
settings on and off with a check box.


When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but
maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.



Gene nz



On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this
getting some love at last.

On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.



Re: New settings property sheet system in Next

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next
snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there
already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked
which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to
find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting
you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one.


But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn
settings on and off with a check box.


When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but
maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.



Gene nz

On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this
getting some love at last.

On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.




Re: New settings property sheet system in Next

Kevin Cussick
 

sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this getting some love at last.

On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
Brian
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Re: can the user manual be downloaded to IOS?

Gene
 

In such cases doing a google search may find the item online.  In this case, searching for NVDA manual or NVDA user guide will find the entire guide online in one file.
 
Gene

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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] can the user manual be downloaded to IOS?

Hello,

I am a blind user with an iphone running IOS 11.3 and the VoiceOver screen reader. I would like to download a copy of the NVDA user manual to my iphone where I can then read (i.e. listen to) it using the VoiceDream Reader app. I find this a good way to read the user guide when I do not have my laptop with me. I also often access it on my iphone while I am using NVDA on my laptop.

Is it possible to download the current user guide to accomplish this? 

And yes, I do know that the user guide is part of NVDA itself and thus available on my laptop.

Thanks,

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB






Re: NVDA not reading in OpenOffice Writer

 

hi.
may i ask that which version of openoffice?
because openoffice since version 4.1, supports iaccessible2 and you
can easily navigate in your documents.

On 4/11/18, Vernon Webb via Groups.Io
<vernonwebb51=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I am helping a new user of NVDA. It speaks application names etc, and it
echoed letters as I type in OpenOffice Writer, but it doesn’t speak letters,
words or lines as I move around a small doc using cursor keys, up/down keys
or Ctrl with cursor keys. Any tips where to look? Thanks, Vernon




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can the user manual be downloaded to IOS?

Dave Clement <dclement@...>
 

Hello,

I am a blind user with an iphone running IOS 11.3 and the VoiceOver screen reader. I would like to download a copy of the NVDA user manual to my iphone where I can then read (i.e. listen to) it using the VoiceDream Reader app. I find this a good way to read the user guide when I do not have my laptop with me. I also often access it on my iphone while I am using NVDA on my laptop.

Is it possible to download the current user guide to accomplish this?

And yes, I do know that the user guide is part of NVDA itself and thus available on my laptop.

Thanks,

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


Re: latest next version

Michel Such
 

It causes several other problems:

- Windows titles are not announced when swithing thru them with alt+tab.

NVDA does not seem to be aware when you open a folder.

Le 11/04/2018 à 17:42, Joseph Lee a écrit :

Hi,
This is caused by a commit that supposedly fixes how NVDA announces clock icon on the notification area. The issue at hand is:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751
I have notified NV Access and the person who wrote this fix (not me) as this is a critical bug.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] latest next version

I installed the latest next version of NVDA on my Win 10 laptop. 
Rebooted the computer to make sure things were set.  Then I went to the control panel and NVDA would not read any of the entries in the control panel.