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Re: NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

Rob Hudson
 

Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:
Have you tried to disable the audio enhancements, please read below.
Not every audio device has audio enhancements. So this isn't a surefire fix.


Re: NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,

Have you tried to disable the audio enhancements, please read below.

In order to fix the high CPU usage, disable the audio enhancements processed by the audiodg.exe file. To disable the audio enhancements, try the following steps:

1. Right-click the speaker icon in the right-hand notification area on the taskbar.

2. Select Playback Devices from the menu. A list of devices should appear on the screen.

3. Double-click the device that has a green checkmark. The properties windows for that device should open.

4. Click the Enhancements tab at the top.

5. From the list of enhancements, uncheck all of them, or click the Disable all enhancements checkbox.

6. Click the OK button to save your changes and close the window.

7. Click OK to close the Playback Devices window.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Scholey
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 17:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

 

Hi All

I’m having an alarming issue with NVDA eating all my ram through the Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation Process; audiodg.exe.

Quite a technical issue – I’ll

Try and explain it the best I can.

I had been using my laptop, running Windows 10 and NVDA 2018.1.1, for about 3 hours doing a lot of

Emails and document editing using Microsoft word; so not that advanced. Suddenly, I got a blue screen error telling me my virtual memory had been used up and my laptop needed to restart.

I was naturally curious as to what could’ve, first used so much ram, then that it needed to eat all my virtual memory up.

I consulted task manager and found that the windows audio device graph isolation process – file audiodg.exe was using just over a GB of ram! I new this wasn’t normal and as I was watching it was increasing very fast.

It only increases when NVDA is talking though, that’s the weird thing. I’ve verified that all my audio settings are normal and my audio drivers are up to date. There is nothing else I have running that comes close to using this much ram.

After a while the audiodg.exe program uses so much ram that it shifts some into virtual to try and free some ram. This process then continues until over 30 GB of virtual has been used; then I get the blue screen error.

I then tried using narrator to see what happened to the amount of ram audiodg.exe was using and it was a normal amount and wasn’t increasing. I then played some music and the results were fine again.

Has anyone had this issue before that could help me come to a solution on how to fix this weird leak. If there’s anymore info you need please let me know.

Thanks

Luke

 


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NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

Luke Scholey <l.scholey.lists@...>
 

Hi All

I’m having an alarming issue with NVDA eating all my ram through the Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation Process; audiodg.exe.

Quite a technical issue – I’ll

Try and explain it the best I can.

I had been using my laptop, running Windows 10 and NVDA 2018.1.1, for about 3 hours doing a lot of

Emails and document editing using Microsoft word; so not that advanced. Suddenly, I got a blue screen error telling me my virtual memory had been used up and my laptop needed to restart.

I was naturally curious as to what could’ve, first used so much ram, then that it needed to eat all my virtual memory up.

I consulted task manager and found that the windows audio device graph isolation process – file audiodg.exe was using just over a GB of ram! I new this wasn’t normal and as I was watching it was increasing very fast.

It only increases when NVDA is talking though, that’s the weird thing. I’ve verified that all my audio settings are normal and my audio drivers are up to date. There is nothing else I have running that comes close to using this much ram.

After a while the audiodg.exe program uses so much ram that it shifts some into virtual to try and free some ram. This process then continues until over 30 GB of virtual has been used; then I get the blue screen error.

I then tried using narrator to see what happened to the amount of ram audiodg.exe was using and it was a normal amount and wasn’t increasing. I then played some music and the results were fine again.

Has anyone had this issue before that could help me come to a solution on how to fix this weird leak. If there’s anymore info you need please let me know.

Thanks

Luke



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Re: question about when making A portable copy of NVDA

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello, when you check this checkbox all your settings and addons will be built into the portable copy.

Cheers,
Ralf

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 16:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] question about when making A portable copy of NVDA

Hi yesterday I made A portable copy of my NVDA.

And what I was wondering is when making A portable copy can you check the box that says used saved configuration or something to that wording.

And then make the portable copy?

Or is it better to not check that box when making your portable copy?

I didn't have that box checked when I made my portable copy.

Also what about different synthesizers that you may have added as an add on?

Will those copy in to your portable version as well or do you have to first make the portable and then add the speech synths in that you want after you have it made?



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question about when making A portable copy of NVDA

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi yesterday I made A portable copy of my NVDA.

And what I was wondering is when making A portable copy can you check the box that says used saved configuration or something to that wording.

And then make the portable copy?

Or is it better to not check that box when making your portable copy?

I didn't have that box checked when I made my portable copy.

Also what about different synthesizers that you may have added as an add on?

Will those copy in to your portable version as well or do you have to first make the portable and then add the speech synths in that you want after you have it made?



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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi David,

You're most welcome!  Although, full disclosure, I say that as someone who had nothing to do with implementing the fix, I simply passed on the information about it existing :)

Glad to hear it's working in any case!

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 4:43 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Thanks Quentin!

I just installed the latest next snapshot,

And everything works great again.

Thank you so much for fixing this so quickly!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New settings property sheet system in Next

 

Hi everyone,

 

Firstly, for anyone who tried yesterday's Next build, we found a couple of issues and recommend updating to the latest version for fixes: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

 

Re the shortcut keys, yes the original shortcut keys still work, you can press NVDA+control+k to open the dialog directly in Keyboard settings, NVDA+control+m for mouse settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings, etc.

 

Also, re the search idea, yes we are definitely planning that.  We wanted to get the new dialog out there initially with essentially the existing functionality, and then build on that, but a settings search feature is planned.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@....nz> wrote:

Hi


yep that is the add on i have it installed here on my computer and like
it. I just looked it up to see what it was called.


And before downloaded the next snapshot to look at that approach. I must
admit i do like the search function in it.


Gene nz





On 4/12/2018 10:15 AM, mk360 wrote:
> Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That was a
> good approach, I like the new settings too.
> El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió:
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next
>> snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there
>> already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked
>> which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to
>> find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting
>> you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one.
>>
>>
>> But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn
>> settings on and off with a check box.
>>
>>
>> When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but
>> maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene nz
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this
>>> getting some love at last.
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
>>>> It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
>>>> settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
>>>> whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





 

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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible to work!

Ângelo Abrantes
 

Hi,


Now, it's working, but i'm going to continue making tests.

Thanks.

Ângelo Abrantes


Às 00:36 de 12-04-2018, Quentin Christensen escreveu:
Hi Ângelo,

Apologies for the problems.  We've identified the issue and pushed out a new Next build which should address it: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/  Please let us know if you still have problems after updating.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@...> wrote:
After my last message, I tryed to work with the new next, using windows7 pro, but it's impossible! I can't change between folders! Here are my .log errors:


Speaking [u'Angelo']
ERROR - core.CorePump.Notify (15:49:04.130):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "core.pyc", line 443, in Notify
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 880, in pumpAll
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 668, in processFocusWinEvent
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 684, in processFocusNVDAEvent
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 643, in _get_shouldAllowIAccessibleFocusEvent
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1564, in _get_parent
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\window\__init__.pyc", line 263, in _get_parent
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 87, in __call__
  File "appModules\explorer.pyc", line 236, in chooseNVDAObjectOverlayClasses
NameError: global name 'windowClassName' is not defined
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:49:07.430):


Thanks.
Ângelo Abrantes
Às 15:41 de 11-04-2018, Ângelo Miguel Abrantes escreveu:
It's a very good idea!

Thanks.

Ângelo Abrantes


Às 14:13 de 11-04-2018, Luis Carlos Gonzáles Moráles escreveu:
It's so nice and entertaining to me. No going to separate settings, this
looks like Window Eyes in terms of structure.

Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
Brian

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Re: latest next version

Robert Mendoza
 

Sorry disregard my earlier message Quentin. it works fine and fix the problem now. Smile.

Robert Mendoza
On 4/12/2018 4:51 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

Hi,

Not sure it does not appears the new version for the next build stated to your link. Kindly check.

next build snapshot
Version: 15024,ac2d9f33
Date:Wed Apr 11 22:03:01 2018

Robert Mendoza
On 4/12/2018 7:38 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

There's a new Next build which (hopefully) addresses those issues caused by the #5751 fix.  For those affected, please try the new version and do advise if you still have problems: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Michel Such <michel.such@...> wrote:

It causes several other problems:

- Windows titles are not announced when swithing thru them with alt+tab.

NVDA does not seem to be aware when you open a folder.

Le 11/04/2018 à 17:42, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi,
This is caused by a commit that supposedly fixes how NVDA announces clock icon on the notification area. The issue at hand is:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751
I have notified NV Access and the person who wrote this fix (not me) as this is a critical bug.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] latest next version

I installed the latest next version of NVDA on my Win 10 laptop. 
Rebooted the computer to make sure things were set.  Then I went to the control panel and NVDA would not read any of the entries in the control panel.










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Re: announcing end of lines in Scite editor

Jiří Fenz <jirifenz@...>
 

It's strange.:)

When i press num 2 three times, it says correctly End of line. So character is OK. But when i move cursor on it, nvda says Blank...

Jiri


Dne 08.04.2018 v 15:33 Cohn, Jonathan napsal(a):

What Gene and I were working on, is that often times NVDA will say blank for a character it has not been trained to recognize. In these cases if you click numpad 2 three times, NVDA will speak the underlying code associated with that character. 

 

So please enter the program, move to where NVDA says blank and then hit the number 2 three times, if you do this correctly NVDA should say something like 1392 provide that code back to the list. Then we may be able to help you. When Gene attempted to get this code though, it didn’t seem to work so in that case you might have to just live with knowning that blank might be a new line or a Chinese character. (LOL)

Have a great weekend,

Jonathan

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Jiří Fenz <jirifenz@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 9:20 AM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] announcing end of lines in Scite editor

 

Ok, i have to better specify this think.

Almost everythink is ok in Scite with nvda.

Only when you moving with right arrow cross end of line, nvda says Blank instead of New line.

So this behaviour is dependend only on colors combination in Scite symbol for new line i think.

 

 

 

Dne 06.04.2018 v 19:17 Gene napsal(a):

I don't have the technical knowledge to explain the different information you get and in what order without taking notes and transcribing the information NVDA provides.  I'll say that, if you turn input help on, then press numpad 2, you will hear a description of what happens when you press that key once, twice, or three times quickly.  You just have to press it once when input help is on and all three descriptions will be given.  Pressing the key three times gives you codes for the character you are on when you press that key.  It doesn't matter how you are reviewing the screen.  Any character that you are on will be described.

 

I'm giving desktop layout commands for input help and the current character command.  I don't use the laptop layout.

 

I just found something interesting.  It appears that such information may not be available for control characters.  It would be interesting to get an explanation of why.  I tried using the current character on a hard return.  I just heard blank, no matter how I used the command.  Evidently, control characters fall outside of the code NVDA reports.

 

\Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 11:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] announcing end of lines in Scite editor

 

Would it be possible to use review cursor's Say Character and see what the UNICODE is that is being spoken as "blank" and then add it to a dictionary as a different expression? I haven't played with NVDA enough to know. Or perhaps even just the regular expression .$ could be used in a dictionary?



On 4/6/18, 11:41 AM, "
nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of bglists@...> wrote:

    Hmm what I see is nothing is spoken when you hit return, and if you leave a
    line empty it just says blank, much like many editors. This tool behaves a
    bit like the editor used by Dolphins scripting system as I recall.
   
   
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    From: "Jiří Fenz" <
jirifenz@...>
    To: <
nvda@nvda.groups.io>
    Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 10:27 AM
    Subject: Re: [nvda] announcing end of lines in Scite editor
   
   
    >I think that it's only about gui element behaviour.
    >
    > Announcing empty instead of New line is the same regardless on lf, cr or
    > crlf end of line.
    >
    > So i think that solving this is about advanced configuration of Scite to
    > change how the eol symbol is viewed or forcing autoit to recognize that
    > actual symbol as standart new line.
    >
    > Here is link for portable version of Scite i'm using, if someone want to
    > try it directly.
    >
    >
https://www.autoitscript.com/cgi-bin/getfile.pl?../autoit3/scite/download/SciTE4AutoIt3_Portable.zip
    >
    > Jiri Fenz
    >
    >
    >
    > Dne 06.04.2018 v 10:56 Shaun Everiss napsal(a):
    >> Well it depends I guess you have to look in the editer options it
    >> would have to do with how the symbon is rendered for nvda to read.
    >>
    >> Simplest way would be if there was a dictenary for that program if you
    >> can have a spaciffic definition for a particular program I am not sure
    >> if thats possible, but you could define the word empty to end of line
    >> or do it for the global deffinition and when anything is empty it will
    >> be end of line instead.
    >>
    >> Thats not going to really work that well.
    >>
    >> We need to find what that symbol actually is that is generated.
    >>
    >> Is it generating the standard carrage return or linefead, cr/lf symbol
    >> for example.
    >>
    >> crlf symbols usually at least when I did communications and things
    >> back in dos usually mean, new line, line end, end of line or simply an
    >> empty space depending on the os, unix/linux, windows or dos.
    >>
    >> In these days, windows/dos has almost the same charset with windows
    >> having more of them and linux has a few more.
    >>
    >> However depending what this thing was developed for, ie unix that
    >> could explain the issue you are having, things are translated that
    >> symbol may not be translated as such so there may be that issue to
    >> worry about.
    >>
    >> Ofcause if you can get a document with just that symbon in it and send
    >> it at whoever handles the symbol database then it should be ok.
    >>
    >> What happens if you create a document with a few new lines or line
    >> breaks in them and view it in another text editor.
    >>
    >> Ie notepad, if the symbol is still empty, then its a symbol issue but
    >> if the symbol is read correctly, it could simbly be what the editor is
    >> outputting to be translated in which case not much we can do.
    >>
    >> If the symbol from scyte you get in notepad back is just utter crap
    >> then it could be an untranslated symbol probably from unix or something.
    >>
    >> The next thing to do is send it back here and get someone to find out
    >> what that symbol comes from, latx for example has different symbols to
    >> text and other programs may have different symbols based on age to a
    >> point, etc.
    >>
    >> So if you find that out then the symbol can be added and your issue is
    >> solved.
    >>
    >> What I fear is that its just what the program outputs at nvda in which
    >> case nothing can be done really.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> On 6/04/2018 8:45 p.m., Jiří Fenz wrote:
    >>> Helllo all,
    >>>
    >>> i'm using Scite for coding in Autoit.
    >>>
    >>> Accessibility of thys program is almost total, but when moving with
    >>> right or left arrow betveen lines, nvda says Empty instead of New line.
    >>>
    >>> Is here some option to set classic End of line character in scite to
    >>> make it announce new line the same way as for example in notepad?
    >>>
    >>> With best regards
    >>>
    >>> Jiri Fenz
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
   
   
   
   
   



 



Re: latest next version

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi,

Not sure it does not appears the new version for the next build stated to your link. Kindly check.

next build snapshot
Version: 15024,ac2d9f33
Date:Wed Apr 11 22:03:01 2018

Robert Mendoza
On 4/12/2018 7:38 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

There's a new Next build which (hopefully) addresses those issues caused by the #5751 fix.  For those affected, please try the new version and do advise if you still have problems: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Michel Such <michel.such@...> wrote:

It causes several other problems:

- Windows titles are not announced when swithing thru them with alt+tab.

NVDA does not seem to be aware when you open a folder.

Le 11/04/2018 à 17:42, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi,
This is caused by a commit that supposedly fixes how NVDA announces clock icon on the notification area. The issue at hand is:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751
I have notified NV Access and the person who wrote this fix (not me) as this is a critical bug.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] latest next version

I installed the latest next version of NVDA on my Win 10 laptop. 
Rebooted the computer to make sure things were set.  Then I went to the control panel and NVDA would not read any of the entries in the control panel.










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Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Adriani

There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen reader related resources off the main website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web pages on my website that point to that page.

I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.
These can be changed  or added to.

Gene nz
 

On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Adriani


Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources  which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda blogs? about using nvda? Not quite sure of other sections if i do and would be more a point to page but not jeffs one.

Even though he had a good site.


I am guessing we do  have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc but not in the one place.


Gene nz







On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Gene,

 

thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph’s new tutorials set “welcome to NVDA 2018” can be included as well?

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2018 03:21
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

 

I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.

 

Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do it the other way that was posted.

 

I have not any XP machines here now to test with.

 

The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Hello,

 

we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well and it works perfectly. NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this file:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. März 2018 19:47
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi

 

the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541

 

You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.

 

So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to fix the problem.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:

hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.
how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?
does it have solution for users of xp?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!
 
On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
HI guys
 
Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
 
RECENTLY UPDATED:
 
 
Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.
 
Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which
has been updated for 2018.1
 
Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and
product reviews page
http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html
 
NEW:
 
Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA
tutorials for other programs page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html
as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.
 
Gene NZ
 
On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Gene NZ!
Thanks so much for what you do for us!
God bless!
David Moore
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10
 
From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
 
 
Hi guys
 
Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages
 
New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with
the NVDA screen reader by Hareth  and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page
under the troubleshooting section
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a
tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA
tutorials learning the basics page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html
Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the
keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html
 
Gene NZ
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at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.
 
 
 
--
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.
 
 
 

 

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Re: can the user manual be downloaded to IOS?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes its a standard html file so it should work fine in any mobile or tablets browser.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can the user manual be downloaded to IOS?


In such cases doing a google search may find the item online. In this case, searching for NVDA manual or NVDA user guide will find the entire guide online in one file.
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Dave Clement
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can the user manual be downloaded to IOS?


Hello,

I am a blind user with an iphone running IOS 11.3 and the VoiceOver screen reader. I would like to download a copy of the NVDA user manual to my iphone where I can then read (i.e. listen to) it using the VoiceDream Reader app. I find this a good way to read the user guide when I do not have my laptop with me. I also often access it on my iphone while I am using NVDA on my laptop.

Is it possible to download the current user guide to accomplish this?

And yes, I do know that the user guide is part of NVDA itself and thus available on my laptop.

Thanks,

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


Re: New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible to work!

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I noticed it but thought maybe it was some corruption due to me having far too many things open at once, so I did not press it yesterday.
Brian

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From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible to work!


Hi Ângelo,

Apologies for the problems. We've identified the issue and pushed out a
new Next build which should address it:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Please let us know if you
still have problems after updating.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@...>
wrote:

After my last message, I tryed to work with the new next, using windows7
pro, but it's impossible! I can't change between folders! Here are my .log
errors:


Speaking [u'Angelo']
ERROR - core.CorePump.Notify (15:49:04.130):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 443, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 880, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 668, in processFocusWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 684, in processFocusNVDAEvent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 643, in
_get_shouldAllowIAccessibleFocusEvent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1564, in _get_parent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\window\__init__.pyc", line 263, in _get_parent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 87, in __call__
File "appModules\explorer.pyc", line 236, in
chooseNVDAObjectOverlayClasses
NameError: global name 'windowClassName' is not defined
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:49:07.430):


Thanks.
Ângelo Abrantes
Às 15:41 de 11-04-2018, Ângelo Miguel Abrantes escreveu:

It's a very good idea!

Thanks.

Ângelo Abrantes


Às 14:13 de 11-04-2018, Luis Carlos Gonzáles Moráles escreveu:

It's so nice and entertaining to me. No going to separate settings, this
looks like Window Eyes in terms of structure.

Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
Brian

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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible towork!

David Moore
 

Ah!

I see what happened in the settings. I did not know about that change.

Great idea putting all the general settings for the NVDA core under settings.

Thanks a lot!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New settings property sheet system in Next, impossible towork!

 

Hi Ângelo,

 

Apologies for the problems.  We've identified the issue and pushed out a new Next build which should address it: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/  Please let us know if you still have problems after updating.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@...> wrote:

After my last message, I tryed to work with the new next, using windows7 pro, but it's impossible! I can't change between folders! Here are my .log errors:


Speaking [u'Angelo']
ERROR - core.CorePump.Notify (15:49:04.130):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "core.pyc", line 443, in Notify
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 880, in pumpAll
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 668, in processFocusWinEvent
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 684, in processFocusNVDAEvent
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 643, in _get_shouldAllowIAccessibleFocusEvent
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1564, in _get_parent
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\window\__init__.pyc", line 263, in _get_parent
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 87, in __call__
  File "appModules\explorer.pyc", line 236, in chooseNVDAObjectOverlayClasses
NameError: global name 'windowClassName' is not defined
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:49:07.430):


Thanks.
Ângelo Abrantes
Às 15:41 de 11-04-2018, Ângelo Miguel Abrantes escreveu:

It's a very good idea!

Thanks.

Ângelo Abrantes


Às 14:13 de 11-04-2018, Luis Carlos Gonzáles Moráles escreveu:

It's so nice and entertaining to me. No going to separate settings, this
looks like Window Eyes in terms of structure.

Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
Brian

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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next

David Moore
 

Thanks Quentin!

I just installed the latest next snapshot,

And everything works great again.

Thank you so much for fixing this so quickly!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New settings property sheet system in Next

 

Hi everyone,

 

Firstly, for anyone who tried yesterday's Next build, we found a couple of issues and recommend updating to the latest version for fixes: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

 

Re the shortcut keys, yes the original shortcut keys still work, you can press NVDA+control+k to open the dialog directly in Keyboard settings, NVDA+control+m for mouse settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings, etc.

 

Also, re the search idea, yes we are definitely planning that.  We wanted to get the new dialog out there initially with essentially the existing functionality, and then build on that, but a settings search feature is planned.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


yep that is the add on i have it installed here on my computer and like
it. I just looked it up to see what it was called.


And before downloaded the next snapshot to look at that approach. I must
admit i do like the search function in it.


Gene nz





On 4/12/2018 10:15 AM, mk360 wrote:
> Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That was a
> good approach, I like the new settings too.
> El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió:
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next
>> snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there
>> already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked
>> which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to
>> find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting
>> you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one.
>>
>>
>> But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn
>> settings on and off with a check box.
>>
>>
>> When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but
>> maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene nz
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this
>>> getting some love at last.
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
>>>> It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
>>>> settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
>>>> whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





 

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Re: latest next version

David Moore
 

Hi!

I just installed the newest next snapshot:

15024,

And it works great again when opening folders and all with file Explorer.

Thanks a lot!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest next version

 

Control panel now reads as it should with this next.

 

On 4/11/2018 6:38 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> There's a new Next build which (hopefully) addresses those issues caused

> by the #5751 fix.  For those affected, please try the new version and do

> advise if you still have problems:

> https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

>

> Kind regards

>

> Quentin.

>

>

>

> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Michel Such <michel.such@...

> <mailto:michel.such@...>> wrote:

>

>     It causes several other problems:

>

>     - Windows titles are not announced when swithing thru them with alt+tab.

>

>     NVDA does not seem to be aware when you open a folder.

>

>     Michel Such <mailto:michel.such@...>

>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>     Michel, son chat et son ordi

>     Le 11/04/2018 à 17:42, Joseph Lee a écrit :

>>     Hi,

>>     This is caused by a commit that supposedly fixes how NVDA announces clock icon on the notification area. The issue at hand is:

>>     https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751

>>     <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751>

>>     I have notified NV Access and the person who wrote this fix (not me) as this is a critical bug.

>>     Cheers,

>>     Joseph

>> 

>>     -----Original Message-----

>>     From:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  On Behalf Of Don H

>>     Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:39 AM

>>     To:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>     Subject: [nvda] latest next version

>> 

>>     I installed the latest next version of NVDA on my Win 10 laptop.

>>     Rebooted the computer to make sure things were set.  Then I went to the control panel and NVDA would not read any of the entries in the control panel.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

>

>

> --

> Quentin Christensen

> Training and Support Manager

>

> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:

> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

>

> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>

> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess

> Twitter: @NVAccess

>

 

 

 

 


Re: latest next version

Don H
 

Control panel now reads as it should with this next.

On 4/11/2018 6:38 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,
There's a new Next build which (hopefully) addresses those issues caused by the #5751 fix.  For those affected, please try the new version and do advise if you still have problems: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Michel Such <michel.such@... <mailto:michel.such@...>> wrote:
It causes several other problems:
- Windows titles are not announced when swithing thru them with alt+tab.
NVDA does not seem to be aware when you open a folder.
Michel Such <mailto:michel.such@...>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michel, son chat et son ordi
Le 11/04/2018 à 17:42, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi,
This is caused by a commit that supposedly fixes how NVDA announces clock icon on the notification area. The issue at hand is:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751>
I have notified NV Access and the person who wrote this fix (not me) as this is a critical bug.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:39 AM
To:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] latest next version

I installed the latest next version of NVDA on my Win 10 laptop.
Rebooted the computer to make sure things were set. Then I went to the control panel and NVDA would not read any of the entries in the control panel.






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Re: New settings property sheet system in Next

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, everything seems working alright!

Rui Fontes


Às 00:43 de 12/04/2018, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

Hi everyone,
Firstly, for anyone who tried yesterday's Next build, we found a couple of issues and recommend updating to the latest version for fixes: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/
Re the shortcut keys, yes the original shortcut keys still work, you can press NVDA+control+k to open the dialog directly in Keyboard settings, NVDA+control+m for mouse settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings, etc.
Also, re the search idea, yes we are definitely planning that.  We wanted to get the new dialog out there initially with essentially the existing functionality, and then build on that, but a settings search feature is planned.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@... <mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>> wrote:
Hi
yep that is the add on i have it installed here on my computer and like
it. I just looked it up to see what it was called.
And before downloaded the next snapshot to look at that approach. I must
admit i do like the search function in it.
Gene nz
On 4/12/2018 10:15 AM, mk360 wrote:
> Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That
was a
> good approach, I like the new settings too.
> El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió:
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next
>> snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there
>> already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i
liked
>> which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to
>> find the settings but the best part was you could search for the
setting
>> you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the
gesture one.
>>
>>
>> But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to
turn
>> settings on and off with a check box.
>>
>>
>> When looking around in the settings i could not find a search
box but
>> maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene nz
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this
>>> getting some love at last.
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
>>>> It would be nice to find out what people think of the new
system for
>>>> settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice
though
>>>> whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...>
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>>> briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
--
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Training and Support Manager
Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
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Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: New settings property sheet system in Next

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

Firstly, for anyone who tried yesterday's Next build, we found a couple of issues and recommend updating to the latest version for fixes: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

Re the shortcut keys, yes the original shortcut keys still work, you can press NVDA+control+k to open the dialog directly in Keyboard settings, NVDA+control+m for mouse settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings, etc.

Also, re the search idea, yes we are definitely planning that.  We wanted to get the new dialog out there initially with essentially the existing functionality, and then build on that, but a settings search feature is planned.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


yep that is the add on i have it installed here on my computer and like
it. I just looked it up to see what it was called.


And before downloaded the next snapshot to look at that approach. I must
admit i do like the search function in it.


Gene nz




On 4/12/2018 10:15 AM, mk360 wrote:
> Seems to me you're thinking on the "rapid settings" add-on. That was a
> good approach, I like the new settings too.
> El 11/04/2018 a las 19:12, Gene New Zealand escribió:
>> Hi
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>> Just had a look at the new settings properties thingy in the next
>> snapshot. I am guessing there will be a shortcut for it if not there
>> already? I do not mind the setup but also seen a version which i liked
>> which was a add on where it could be either used like a tree view to
>> find the settings but the best part was you could search for the setting
>> you wanted and would narrow it down for you sorta like the gesture one.
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>> But instead of it been shortcuts you could change it would be to turn
>> settings on and off with a check box.
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>> When looking around in the settings i could not find a search box but
>> maybe a idea? to add in depending which way they go.
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>> Gene nz
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>> On 4/12/2018 8:54 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
>>> sorry, will test once it is in master but it is nice to see this
>>> getting some love at last.
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2018 12:13, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
>>>> It would be nice to find out what people think of the new system for
>>>> settings in nvda now in the next branch.I think its very nice though
>>>> whether it has any drawbacks is early days to know.
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>>
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Re: latest next version

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

There's a new Next build which (hopefully) addresses those issues caused by the #5751 fix.  For those affected, please try the new version and do advise if you still have problems: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Michel Such <michel.such@...> wrote:

It causes several other problems:

- Windows titles are not announced when swithing thru them with alt+tab.

NVDA does not seem to be aware when you open a folder.

Le 11/04/2018 à 17:42, Joseph Lee a écrit :
Hi,
This is caused by a commit that supposedly fixes how NVDA announces clock icon on the notification area. The issue at hand is:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5751
I have notified NV Access and the person who wrote this fix (not me) as this is a critical bug.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] latest next version

I installed the latest next version of NVDA on my Win 10 laptop. 
Rebooted the computer to make sure things were set.  Then I went to the control panel and NVDA would not read any of the entries in the control panel.










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