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Re: creating A portable copy

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


For earlier versions of Windows it was the windows key + enter key and some where in windows 10 then they changed it to the later one which you specified.


I did not get told what operating system she had so gave both commands to start up narattor to start her copy of nvda on the new machine.

as she is trying it for the first time with a portable copy of nvda.


Gene nz



On 4/13/2018 3:37 PM, Governor staten wrote:

Control+win+enter starts Narrator.





On 4/12/2018 11:35 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Gene NZ,

I think it was control enter in earlier versions of windows 10 if I'm not mistaken. 


Rosemarie



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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] creating A portable copy

Hi


Probably the easiest way so you get a idea is to use narrator first.

What operating system are you using?


I think in the earlier versions of windows it was the windows key + the enter key to start narrator


In later versions of Windows in 10 i think it was not sure which version 
it was the CTRL key + windows key + the enter key.


This would start up your copy of narrator. You would then navigate to 
where your drives were.


i would use the Windows key + E to bring up file explorer then go down 
to the USB stick then go into the folder of nvda then find the nvda.exe 
file then press the enter key. NVDA then would start up then i would use 
the alt/tab key to bring up narrator then close it with the alt + f4 key.


After that you would then use NVDA.


If there is a log on screen I have found no way around that. to start nvda.


The other way I have on my usb sticks is labeling the usb stick which 
would be labeled qqq then a folder made called nvda and the files went 
into that. I like that way 2.


The nvda audio tutorials page can be found at 
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

There are different ways of starting nvda from a usb stick there I think 
from Xp up to windows 10 which depending how you have it set is if you 
jump any extra hoops which might be the same for other operating systems.


You will see what i mean for say windows 10 on how you have it set to 
what hoops you might have to jump.



Gene nz

On 4/13/2018 11:40 AM, Casey wrote:
    Hi okay that is what i did is create A new folder.

And then made the portable copy so then how to you run the portable copy.

So now you first put in your removable drive make the folder called 
nvda on it.

Then close out of that and then go and make your portable copy but 
when you are making it.

You of course select the letter of your removable drive that you want 
it created on and then the folder you want it in.

So once that is done then how do you get that portable to run.

Either on your machine or another machine?

This is my first time really doing this and wanting to make sure I do 
it correctly.




On 4/12/2018 6:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Casey


When ever i make a portable version of NVDA I always make a folder and
usually call it nvda. it will then put all your files into that folder.
make sure you do not have other folders or files starting with the
letter n as well.



You can have other folders on the USB stick but not with the letter N
and or you could put your files into those folders if it is other stuff.
Otherwise what could happen also is if it is the only thing  you are
putting the files onto it will splatter your files all over the USB 
stick.
It would be rather harder to start your copy of nvda then.
There are 58 files or so that nvda uses and if you had extra folders or
files you get the idea.

I do if you are interested have different ways of starting NVDA from a
USB stick on my website which can be found on my nvda audio tutorials
page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
The easiest way for new people is to start narrator then find the USB
stick with nvda on it if going to a new machine. I do not use narrator
as i am pretty use to starting NVDA from a USB stick on a different
computer.

Gene nz



On 4/13/2018 11:08 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I have the drive that I would like to make my portable of NVDA on.

Now what I would like to know is should I create A folder for the
portable copy and then  make the portable copy?

And then once I do that how do I run the portable copy after it has
been made?

Or should I just make it to the root of the drive I want to use for
the portable copy?

I would like to know the best way to go about this.












Re: creating A portable copy

 

Control+win+enter starts Narrator.





On 4/12/2018 11:35 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Gene NZ,

I think it was control enter in earlier versions of windows 10 if I'm not mistaken. 


Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] creating A portable copy

Hi


Probably the easiest way so you get a idea is to use narrator first.

What operating system are you using?


I think in the earlier versions of windows it was the windows key + the enter key to start narrator


In later versions of Windows in 10 i think it was not sure which version 
it was the CTRL key + windows key + the enter key.


This would start up your copy of narrator. You would then navigate to 
where your drives were.


i would use the Windows key + E to bring up file explorer then go down 
to the USB stick then go into the folder of nvda then find the nvda.exe 
file then press the enter key. NVDA then would start up then i would use 
the alt/tab key to bring up narrator then close it with the alt + f4 key.


After that you would then use NVDA.


If there is a log on screen I have found no way around that. to start nvda.


The other way I have on my usb sticks is labeling the usb stick which 
would be labeled qqq then a folder made called nvda and the files went 
into that. I like that way 2.


The nvda audio tutorials page can be found at 
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

There are different ways of starting nvda from a usb stick there I think 
from Xp up to windows 10 which depending how you have it set is if you 
jump any extra hoops which might be the same for other operating systems.


You will see what i mean for say windows 10 on how you have it set to 
what hoops you might have to jump.



Gene nz

On 4/13/2018 11:40 AM, Casey wrote:
    Hi okay that is what i did is create A new folder.

And then made the portable copy so then how to you run the portable copy.

So now you first put in your removable drive make the folder called 
nvda on it.

Then close out of that and then go and make your portable copy but 
when you are making it.

You of course select the letter of your removable drive that you want 
it created on and then the folder you want it in.

So once that is done then how do you get that portable to run.

Either on your machine or another machine?

This is my first time really doing this and wanting to make sure I do 
it correctly.




On 4/12/2018 6:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Casey


When ever i make a portable version of NVDA I always make a folder and
usually call it nvda. it will then put all your files into that folder.
make sure you do not have other folders or files starting with the
letter n as well.



You can have other folders on the USB stick but not with the letter N
and or you could put your files into those folders if it is other stuff.
Otherwise what could happen also is if it is the only thing  you are
putting the files onto it will splatter your files all over the USB 
stick.
It would be rather harder to start your copy of nvda then.
There are 58 files or so that nvda uses and if you had extra folders or
files you get the idea.

I do if you are interested have different ways of starting NVDA from a
USB stick on my website which can be found on my nvda audio tutorials
page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
The easiest way for new people is to start narrator then find the USB
stick with nvda on it if going to a new machine. I do not use narrator
as i am pretty use to starting NVDA from a USB stick on a different
computer.

Gene nz



On 4/13/2018 11:08 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I have the drive that I would like to make my portable of NVDA on.

Now what I would like to know is should I create A folder for the
portable copy and then  make the portable copy?

And then once I do that how do I run the portable copy after it has
been made?

Or should I just make it to the root of the drive I want to use for
the portable copy?

I would like to know the best way to go about this.






      








Re: creating A portable copy

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene NZ,

I think it was control enter in earlier versions of windows 10 if I'm not mistaken.


Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] creating A portable copy

Hi


Probably the easiest way so you get a idea is to use narrator first.

What operating system are you using?


I think in the earlier versions of windows it was the windows key + the enter key to start narrator


In later versions of Windows in 10 i think it was not sure which version
it was the CTRL key + windows key + the enter key.


This would start up your copy of narrator. You would then navigate to
where your drives were.


i would use the Windows key + E to bring up file explorer then go down
to the USB stick then go into the folder of nvda then find the nvda.exe
file then press the enter key. NVDA then would start up then i would use
the alt/tab key to bring up narrator then close it with the alt + f4 key.


After that you would then use NVDA.


If there is a log on screen I have found no way around that. to start nvda.


The other way I have on my usb sticks is labeling the usb stick which
would be labeled qqq then a folder made called nvda and the files went
into that. I like that way 2.


The nvda audio tutorials page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

There are different ways of starting nvda from a usb stick there I think
from Xp up to windows 10 which depending how you have it set is if you
jump any extra hoops which might be the same for other operating systems.


You will see what i mean for say windows 10 on how you have it set to
what hoops you might have to jump.



Gene nz

On 4/13/2018 11:40 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi okay that is what i did is create A new folder.

And then made the portable copy so then how to you run the portable copy.

So now you first put in your removable drive make the folder called
nvda on it.

Then close out of that and then go and make your portable copy but
when you are making it.

You of course select the letter of your removable drive that you want
it created on and then the folder you want it in.

So once that is done then how do you get that portable to run.

Either on your machine or another machine?

This is my first time really doing this and wanting to make sure I do
it correctly.




On 4/12/2018 6:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Casey


When ever i make a portable version of NVDA I always make a folder and
usually call it nvda. it will then put all your files into that folder.
make sure you do not have other folders or files starting with the
letter n as well.



You can have other folders on the USB stick but not with the letter N
and or you could put your files into those folders if it is other stuff.
Otherwise what could happen also is if it is the only thing you are
putting the files onto it will splatter your files all over the USB
stick.
It would be rather harder to start your copy of nvda then.
There are 58 files or so that nvda uses and if you had extra folders or
files you get the idea.

I do if you are interested have different ways of starting NVDA from a
USB stick on my website which can be found on my nvda audio tutorials
page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
The easiest way for new people is to start narrator then find the USB
stick with nvda on it if going to a new machine. I do not use narrator
as i am pretty use to starting NVDA from a USB stick on a different
computer.

Gene nz



On 4/13/2018 11:08 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I have the drive that I would like to make my portable of NVDA on.

Now what I would like to know is should I create A folder for the
portable copy and then make the portable copy?

And then once I do that how do I run the portable copy after it has
been made?

Or should I just make it to the root of the drive I want to use for
the portable copy?

I would like to know the best way to go about this.




Re: creating A portable copy

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Probably the easiest way so you get a idea is to use narrator first.

What operating system are you using?


I think in the earlier versions of windows it was the windows key + the
enter key to start narrator


In later versions of Windows in 10 i think it was not sure which version
it was the CTRL key + windows key + the enter key.


This would start up your copy of narrator. You would then navigate to
where your drives were.


i would use the Windows key + E to bring up file explorer then go down
to the USB stick then go into the folder of nvda then find the nvda.exe
file then press the enter key. NVDA then would start up then i would use
the alt/tab key to bring up narrator then close it with the alt + f4 key.


After that you would then use NVDA.


If there is a log on screen I have found no way around that. to start nvda.


The other way I have on my usb sticks is labeling the usb stick which
would be labeled qqq then a folder made called nvda and the files went
into that. I like that way 2.


The nvda audio tutorials page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

There are different ways of starting nvda from a usb stick there I think
from Xp up to windows 10 which depending how you have it set is if you
jump any extra hoops which might be the same for other operating systems.


You will see what i mean for say windows 10 on how you have it set to
what hoops you might have to jump.



Gene nz

On 4/13/2018 11:40 AM, Casey wrote:
    Hi okay that is what i did is create A new folder.

And then made the portable copy so then how to you run the portable copy.

So now you first put in your removable drive make the folder called
nvda on it.

Then close out of that and then go and make your portable copy but
when you are making it.

You of course select the letter of your removable drive that you want
it created on and then the folder you want it in.

So once that is done then how do you get that portable to run.

Either on your machine or another machine?

This is my first time really doing this and wanting to make sure I do
it correctly.




On 4/12/2018 6:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Casey


When ever i make a portable version of NVDA I always make a folder and
usually call it nvda. it will then put all your files into that folder.
make sure you do not have other folders or files starting with the
letter n as well.



You can have other folders on the USB stick but not with the letter N
and or you could put your files into those folders if it is other stuff.
Otherwise what could happen also is if it is the only thing  you are
putting the files onto it will splatter your files all over the USB
stick.
It would be rather harder to start your copy of nvda then.
There are 58 files or so that nvda uses and if you had extra folders or
files you get the idea.

I do if you are interested have different ways of starting NVDA from a
USB stick on my website which can be found on my nvda audio tutorials
page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
The easiest way for new people is to start narrator then find the USB
stick with nvda on it if going to a new machine. I do not use narrator
as i am pretty use to starting NVDA from a USB stick on a different
computer.

Gene nz



On 4/13/2018 11:08 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I have the drive that I would like to make my portable of NVDA on.

Now what I would like to know is should I create A folder for the
portable copy and then  make the portable copy?

And then once I do that how do I run the portable copy after it has
been made?

Or should I just make it to the root of the drive I want to use for
the portable copy?

I would like to know the best way to go about this.




Re: NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

Luke Scholey <l.scholey.lists@...>
 

Doesn’t matter if it’s espeak or sapi it’s still eating all my ram.
How do I switch to a different driver?
Thanks
Luke

On 12 Apr 2018, at 21:17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Does it make any difference which synth is in use when this occurs? You say it does not have enhancements, but some people have found a generic driver has fixed this problem, implying that some drivers are hiding their enhancements or are just not behaving on synth use through screenreaders.
Strange that Narrator is OK though.
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)


Correct, my device doesn’t have this so unfortunately doesn’t apply.
Thanks though
Luke

On 12 Apr 2018, at 17:55, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:

Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Have you tried to disable the audio enhancements, please read below.
Not every audio device has audio enhancements. So this isn't a surefire fix.



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Re: creating A portable copy

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi okay that is what i did is create A new folder.

And then made the portable copy so then how to you run the portable copy.

So now you first put in your removable drive make the folder called nvda on it.

Then close out of that and then go and make your portable copy but when you are making it.

You of course select the letter of your removable drive that you want it created on and then the folder you want it in.

So once that is done then how do you get that portable to run.

Either on your machine or another machine?

This is my first time really doing this and wanting to make sure I do it correctly.

On 4/12/2018 6:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Casey


When ever i make a portable version of NVDA I always make a folder and
usually call it nvda. it will then put all your files into that folder.
make sure you do not have other folders or files starting with the
letter n as well.



You can have other folders on the USB stick but not with the letter N
and or you could put your files into those folders if it is other stuff.
Otherwise what could happen also is if it is the only thing  you are
putting the files onto it will splatter your files all over the USB stick.
It would be rather harder to start your copy of nvda then.
There are 58 files or so that nvda uses and if you had extra folders or
files you get the idea.

I do if you are interested have different ways of starting NVDA from a
USB stick on my website which can be found on my nvda audio tutorials
page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
The easiest way for new people is to start narrator then find the USB
stick with nvda on it if going to a new machine. I do not use narrator
as i am pretty use to starting NVDA from a USB stick on a different
computer.

Gene nz



On 4/13/2018 11:08 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I have the drive that I would like to make my portable of NVDA on.

Now what I would like to know is should I create A folder for the
portable copy and then  make the portable copy?

And then once I do that how do I run the portable copy after it has
been made?

Or should I just make it to the root of the drive I want to use for
the portable copy?

I would like to know the best way to go about this.


--

Casey


Re: creating A portable copy

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Casey


When ever i make a portable version of NVDA I always make a folder and
usually call it nvda. it will then put all your files into that folder.
make sure you do not have other folders or files starting with the
letter n as well.



You can have other folders on the USB stick but not with the letter N
and or you could put your files into those folders if it is other stuff.
Otherwise what could happen also is if it is the only thing  you are
putting the files onto it will splatter your files all over the USB stick.
It would be rather harder to start your copy of nvda then.
There are 58 files or so that nvda uses and if you had extra folders or
files you get the idea.

I do if you are interested have different ways of starting NVDA from a
USB stick on my website which can be found on my nvda audio tutorials
page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
The easiest way for new people is to start narrator then find the USB
stick with nvda on it if going to a new machine. I do not use narrator
as i am pretty use to starting NVDA from a USB stick on a different
computer.

Gene nz

On 4/13/2018 11:08 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I have the drive that I would like to make my portable of NVDA on.

Now what I would like to know is should I create A folder for the
portable copy and then  make the portable copy?

And then once I do that how do I run the portable copy after it has
been made?

Or should I just make it to the root of the drive I want to use for
the portable copy?

I would like to know the best way to go about this.



creating A portable copy

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi I have the drive that I would like to make my portable of NVDA on.

Now what I would like to know is should I create A folder for the portable copy and then  make the portable copy?

And then once I do that how do I run the portable copy after it has been made?

Or should I just make it to the root of the drive I want to use for the portable copy?

I would like to know the best way to go about this.



--

Casey


NVDA on the El Braille

justin171185@...
 

Hello,

I recently purchased an El Braille from Freedom Scientific, and over
all, I think it is an amazing product. Hardware specs aren't much to
speak on, but for what it does, not a bad product at all. However, there
is one major issue I have run in to. That is, the lack of Spanish
Braille entry support in JAWS. Called up VFO, only to be told that if I
wanted to use JAWS in another language, I would have to buy another
license from a distributor in Latin America. I informed them that no, I
was able to get Spanish JAWS to activate here in the U.S, (by keeping
format options set to English-US, and in almost every way, it works.
However, even in the Spanish version of JAWS, the only Braille entry
offered is computer Braille. While I am used to, and much prefer having
my OS in Spanish, and can read Spanish Braille, I have no idea how to
type certain things in eight dot, aka computer, Braille. And it seems
that VFO just didn't want to deal with it. Even contacted a distributor
in Argentina, only to be told that since I didn't buy the license from
them, that they could not offer support.

So, that got me thinking. I have used NVDA for years. the commands are
already more familiar to me. Granted, I had never used it with a Braille
display before, bbut I thought... this thing runs Windows. What can stop
me from putting NVDA on it and doing things that way? I detached the
focus 14 and took NVDA with the focus 14 for a quick test drive. Spanish
input and output work perfectly so far as I could tell..

So, here are a few things I have noticed.

1. There doesn't seem to be any support for simulating a press of a
function key from the Braille display.

2. It does not seem possible to do keystrokes which require several
modifiers at once, (alt + tab, alt + f4, ctrl + C, etc. Am I missing
something, or is my assesment correct? Does anyone else on this list
have an El Braille? I wonder if an NVDA addon could be produced to make
it play nicer with this particular device.

There are several reasons one might wish to do this. I already explained
my reasoning, but being that there are only 2 gb of ram on the device,
NVDA is a much lighter program, not so much of a resource hog. Also, a
lot of the NVDA commands seem to be much more intuitive. A W-chord (for
Windows makes lots more sense than right shift + dot 4. E-chord for
escape, makes a lot more sense than the Z-chord used by Jaws.

Thanks,

Justin


Re: Using the Goldwave add-on?

Gene
 

But you may want to use What You Hear while recording yourself speak.  You aren't necessarily going to want to switch sound sources continually while recording something like a tutorial.  You may want to record, stop or pause, then resume and record more speech and not have to edit out your screen-reader speaking every time you do something like resume recording.  You'll probably want to edit the file anyway, but you might save some editing if such commands weren't spoken.
 
Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

Actually it won't record your commands if you have the input set to
something other than what you hear, and for that i normally use another
piece of software anyway.

Brian

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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?


I don't use Gold Wave but not having feedback when certain keys are pressed
may be intentional.  When editing, it might really be nerve-racking to hear
keys announced repeatedly that you already know and use very often.  When
playing or recording, the same may be true.  And, if you are recording using
Stereo Mix, you don't want the screen-reader to talk and be recorded unless
you are doing something you want to be recorded and you generally wouldn't
want commands involved in starting and stopping a recording to be recorded.

Don't assume and, if something doesn't work as you expect, think about why
it may be the case.  If something clearly doesn't work properly, that's
different.

I use MP3 Direct Cut.  Even when I have NVDA set to speak letters, when I
issue commands in NVDA Direct Cut, NVDA doesn't speak.  I would think the
same reasons apply in both programs.  These are my guesses about why this is
the case.  They may be wrong but they are examples of what I'm describing.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io ; 'NVDA'
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?


Hi,
Right - because space bar plays/pauses tracks, thus a bit hard to detect
which one is which. I usually press F4 to play tracks in GoldWave (when
editing tracks, of course).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:27 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

OK, wow, weird.
Feedback for playing/ recording, are working fine now.
I think, when i was using the spacebar to play, I expected some feedback.
Said feedback happens when I hit f4, then It says play.
On 4/12/2018 1:37 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Can you tell me what NVDA says when you press Control+NVDA+number rows 1
> through 4?
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt
> Turner
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:35 AM
> To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?
>
> I think so.
>
> When I have a file open, and hit the spacebar, said file plays.
>
>
> On 4/12/2018 1:26 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Eh? Are you sure you are in a sound window?
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt
>> Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:02 AM
>> To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
>> Subject: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?
>>
>> Hi folks.
>>
>> Just checking out goldwave.
>>
>> I have the latest add-on installed, 18.03 but when I press play or
>> record, I get no feedback from NVDA.
>>
>> When pressing NVDA+Shift+C, I hear  Toggles speaking of commands, but
>> still no feedback.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>











Re: trouble with duolingo

Jessica D
 

Hi,
I can't get to the "login" button.
When I try to activate it, it brings up the menu bar, if in firefox.
In edge, it does nothing.
In chrome, it brings up a menu too.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 4:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble with duolingo

What happens when you try to log in?

Do you get an error message?

Are you unable to get to a login page / field / button?

Do you enter your information and then just nothing happens at all?

Tell us as much information as you can so we can think about what might be
happening.


Antony.

On Thursday 12 April 2018 at 22:18:31, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

I started using duolingo yesterday to learn Spanish.

I can't login, to continue today.

Can anyone help?
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Re: trouble with duolingo

Antony Stone
 

What happens when you try to log in?

Do you get an error message?

Are you unable to get to a login page / field / button?

Do you enter your information and then just nothing happens at all?

Tell us as much information as you can so we can think about what might be
happening.


Antony.

On Thursday 12 April 2018 at 22:18:31, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

I started using duolingo yesterday to learn Spanish.

I can't login, to continue today.

Can anyone help?
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Re: Using the Goldwave add-on?

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Actually it won't record your commands if you have the input set to something other than what you hear, and for that i normally use another piece of software anyway.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?


I don't use Gold Wave but not having feedback when certain keys are pressed may be intentional. When editing, it might really be nerve-racking to hear keys announced repeatedly that you already know and use very often. When playing or recording, the same may be true. And, if you are recording using Stereo Mix, you don't want the screen-reader to talk and be recorded unless you are doing something you want to be recorded and you generally wouldn't want commands involved in starting and stopping a recording to be recorded.

Don't assume and, if something doesn't work as you expect, think about why it may be the case. If something clearly doesn't work properly, that's different.

I use MP3 Direct Cut. Even when I have NVDA set to speak letters, when I issue commands in NVDA Direct Cut, NVDA doesn't speak. I would think the same reasons apply in both programs. These are my guesses about why this is the case. They may be wrong but they are examples of what I'm describing.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io ; 'NVDA'
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?


Hi,
Right - because space bar plays/pauses tracks, thus a bit hard to detect which one is which. I usually press F4 to play tracks in GoldWave (when editing tracks, of course).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:27 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

OK, wow, weird.
Feedback for playing/ recording, are working fine now.
I think, when i was using the spacebar to play, I expected some feedback. Said feedback happens when I hit f4, then It says play.
On 4/12/2018 1:37 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Can you tell me what NVDA says when you press Control+NVDA+number rows 1 through 4?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt
Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:35 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

I think so.

When I have a file open, and hit the spacebar, said file plays.


On 4/12/2018 1:26 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Eh? Are you sure you are in a sound window?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt
Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:02 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

Hi folks.

Just checking out goldwave.

I have the latest add-on installed, 18.03 but when I press play or record, I get no feedback from NVDA.

When pressing NVDA+Shift+C, I hear Toggles speaking of commands, but still no feedback.











Re: Using the Goldwave add-on?

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Besides it can be annoying if it keeps saying play and pause all the time or stop or whatever, so I tend to use the space bar to avoid the chat and the other keys when I do want to hear stuff.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>; "'NVDA'" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?


Hi,
Right - because space bar plays/pauses tracks, thus a bit hard to detect which one is which. I usually press F4 to play tracks in GoldWave (when editing tracks, of course).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:27 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

OK, wow, weird.
Feedback for playing/ recording, are working fine now.
I think, when i was using the spacebar to play, I expected some feedback. Said feedback happens when I hit f4, then It says play.
On 4/12/2018 1:37 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Can you tell me what NVDA says when you press Control+NVDA+number rows 1 through 4?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt
Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:35 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

I think so.

When I have a file open, and hit the spacebar, said file plays.


On 4/12/2018 1:26 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Eh? Are you sure you are in a sound window?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt
Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:02 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

Hi folks.

Just checking out goldwave.

I have the latest add-on installed, 18.03 but when I press play or record, I get no feedback from NVDA.

When pressing NVDA+Shift+C, I hear Toggles speaking of commands, but still no feedback.











trouble with duolingo

Jessica D
 

Hi,

I started using duolingo yesterday to learn Spanish.

I can’t login, to continue today.

Can anyone help?

 

 


Re: Using the Goldwave add-on?

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Which version of Goldwave do you have?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Turner" <meturner2214@gmail.com>
To: "NVDA" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?


Hi folks.

Just checking out goldwave.

I have the latest add-on installed, 18.03 but when I press play or record, I get no feedback from NVDA.

When pressing NVDA+Shift+C, I hear Toggles speaking of commands, but still no feedback.



Re: NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

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Does it make any difference which synth is in use when this occurs? You say it does not have enhancements, but some people have found a generic driver has fixed this problem, implying that some drivers are hiding their enhancements or are just not behaving on synth use through screenreaders.
Strange that Narrator is OK though.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Scholey" <l.scholey.lists@lukescholey.co.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)


Correct, my device doesn’t have this so unfortunately doesn’t apply.
Thanks though
Luke

On 12 Apr 2018, at 17:55, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:

Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Have you tried to disable the audio enhancements, please read below.
Not every audio device has audio enhancements. So this isn't a surefire fix.



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Re: Using the Goldwave add-on?

Gene
 

In case there is any confusion, I intended to reply to Matt and the list.  I left Joseph's message below mine, but to make this clear, I should have removed it, as I did in this reply. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

I don't use Gold Wave but not having feedback when certain keys are pressed may be intentional.  When editing, it might really be nerve-racking to hear keys announced repeatedly that you already know and use very often.  When playing or recording, the same may be true.  And, if you are recording using Stereo Mix, you don't want the screen-reader to talk and be recorded unless you are doing something you want to be recorded and you generally wouldn't want commands involved in starting and stopping a recording to be recorded. 
 
Don't assume and, if something doesn't work as you expect, think about why it may be the case.  If something clearly doesn't work properly, that's different. 
 
I use MP3 Direct Cut.  Even when I have NVDA set to speak letters, when I issue commands in NVDA Direct Cut, NVDA doesn't speak.  I would think the same reasons apply in both programs.  These are my guesses about why this is the case.  They may be wrong but they are examples of what I'm describing.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

I don't use Gold Wave but not having feedback when certain keys are pressed may be intentional.  When editing, it might really be nerve-racking to hear keys announced repeatedly that you already know and use very often.  When playing or recording, the same may be true.  And, if you are recording using Stereo Mix, you don't want the screen-reader to talk and be recorded unless you are doing something you want to be recorded and you generally wouldn't want commands involved in starting and stopping a recording to be recorded. 
 
Don't assume and, if something doesn't work as you expect, think about why it may be the case.  If something clearly doesn't work properly, that's different. 
 
I use MP3 Direct Cut.  Even when I have NVDA set to speak letters, when I issue commands in NVDA Direct Cut, NVDA doesn't speak.  I would think the same reasons apply in both programs.  These are my guesses about why this is the case.  They may be wrong but they are examples of what I'm describing.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:27 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

OK, wow, weird.
Feedback for playing/ recording, are working fine now.
I think, when i was using the spacebar to play, I expected some feedback. Said feedback happens when I hit f4, then It says play.
On 4/12/2018 1:37 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Can you tell me what NVDA says when you press Control+NVDA+number rows 1 through 4?
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt
> Turner
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:35 AM
> To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?
>
> I think so.
>
> When I have a file open, and hit the spacebar, said file plays.
>
>
> On 4/12/2018 1:26 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Eh? Are you sure you are in a sound window?
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt
>> Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:02 AM
>> To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
>> Subject: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?
>>
>> Hi folks.
>>
>> Just checking out goldwave.
>>
>> I have the latest add-on installed, 18.03 but when I press play or record, I get no feedback from NVDA.
>>
>> When pressing NVDA+Shift+C, I hear  Toggles speaking of commands, but still no feedback.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>








Re: Using the Goldwave add-on?

Gene
 

I don't use Gold Wave but not having feedback when certain keys are pressed may be intentional.  When editing, it might really be nerve-racking to hear keys announced repeatedly that you already know and use very often.  When playing or recording, the same may be true.  And, if you are recording using Stereo Mix, you don't want the screen-reader to talk and be recorded unless you are doing something you want to be recorded and you generally wouldn't want commands involved in starting and stopping a recording to be recorded. 
 
Don't assume and, if something doesn't work as you expect, think about why it may be the case.  If something clearly doesn't work properly, that's different. 
 
I use MP3 Direct Cut.  Even when I have NVDA set to speak letters, when I issue commands in NVDA Direct Cut, NVDA doesn't speak.  I would think the same reasons apply in both programs.  These are my guesses about why this is the case.  They may be wrong but they are examples of what I'm describing.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

Hi,
Right - because space bar plays/pauses tracks, thus a bit hard to detect which one is which. I usually press F4 to play tracks in GoldWave (when editing tracks, of course).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:27 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?

OK, wow, weird.
Feedback for playing/ recording, are working fine now.
I think, when i was using the spacebar to play, I expected some feedback. Said feedback happens when I hit f4, then It says play.
On 4/12/2018 1:37 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Can you tell me what NVDA says when you press Control+NVDA+number rows 1 through 4?
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt
> Turner
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:35 AM
> To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?
>
> I think so.
>
> When I have a file open, and hit the spacebar, said file plays.
>
>
> On 4/12/2018 1:26 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Eh? Are you sure you are in a sound window?
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt
>> Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:02 AM
>> To: NVDA <nvda@groups.io>
>> Subject: [nvda] Using the Goldwave add-on?
>>
>> Hi folks.
>>
>> Just checking out goldwave.
>>
>> I have the latest add-on installed, 18.03 but when I press play or record, I get no feedback from NVDA.
>>
>> When pressing NVDA+Shift+C, I hear  Toggles speaking of commands, but still no feedback.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>








FW: [nvda-spl] Important RFC: separate broadcast profiles dialog?

 

Hi all,

Because this may impact some of you and to serve as a testbed for other add-ons, I’d like to gather feedback (privately please unless you are part of either the add-ons list or NvDA-SPL list) regarding the below proposal. Only those who have or are thinking about using NVDA, StationPlaylist Studio, and the SPL add-on together should respond.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io <nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 11:20 AM
To: nvda-spl@groups.io
Subject: [nvda-spl] Important RFC: separate broadcast profiles dialog?

 

Hi everyone,

 

If you have time, please go over the following proposal and comment on it, as it’ll affect experience for everyone using SPL add-on in the future:

 

Currently NVDA Core users (those on next snapshots) are testing massively redesigned Settings dialog. The new design combines various preferences dialogs into a multi-category property sheet. If things go well, the new design will land as part of NVDA 2018.2.

 

For several months, I and some broadcasters were thinking about adopting this approach for SPL add-on settings dialog. Currently the dialog consists of:

 

  • Broadcast profile controls.
  • Buttons to open various dialogs.
  • Certain settings on the dialog.

 

The new design calls for:

 

  • Categories on the left.
  • Settings on the right.

 

Unfortunately, this means there may not be room to include broadcast profiles for various reasons:

 

  1. The new design is meant to feature settings only.
  2. If you do select another profile and apply settings, settings will be reflected on the chosen profile, not the active one, causing confusion.
  3. There’s really no room to allow broadcast profile controls to stay visible at all times unless it becomes a category, which again introduces possible confusion as one category would control the entire dialog when in fact it should not.

 

Thus the proposal: should broadcast profiles be split into its own dialog, similar in manner to how NVDA itself does it for configuration profiles?

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Simplifies code a lot.
  2. Settings dialog can focus on add-on settings.

 

Drawbacks:

 

  1. Reserving another key combo.
  2. The concept of tying settings to profiles could be lost initially.

 

Comments from everyone are appreciated, preferably for those thinking about using NVDA and/or SPL add-on, as well as those who do have experience with multi-category NVDA settings design and the older method.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph