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Re: Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

The drag and drop functionality doesn't seem to kick in until the mouse is moved.  If you route the mouse pointer over the file to copy, press shift+numpad divide (or NVDA+control+[ for folks using laptop keyboard layout), then either physically move the mouse, or use one of the keyboard options such as Golden Cursor to move the mouse, and THEN alt+tab to the other window, routing the mouse to wherever you need in that window and finally pressing shift+numpad divide to release the left button, it should work. 

Having said all that, unless it's something that really can't be done any other way, I'd generally recommend using keyboard commands to copy and paste etc.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 5:21 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:07 am, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
Put both windows beside on the screen and it will work as you described it.
Just for the record, I did have a side-by-side arrangement of two File Explorer windows when I was doing my testing and the method originally described did not work.
 
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Re: Recommended braille displays for use with NVDA?

Jason White
 

On Apr 17, 2018, at 19:19, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:

HIMS Braille Edge?
I’ve looked at one at a technology exhibition. I haven’t read many reports from users about the quality of their hardware. As I remember, there were issues reported with the HIMS driver recently on this list, but those appear to be in hand if I understand rightly.


Re: Recommended braille displays for use with NVDA?

Jason White
 

Yes, actually, they’re on my list of possibilities. The in-house models manufactured by HumanWare have been around for a while. I don’t know whether they’re planning an update soon. However, I’ve heard positive comments about HumanWare’s hardware from elsewhere, too.

On Apr 17, 2018, at 17:41, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@gmail.com> wrote:

Have you considered a Brailliant from Humanware? They used i believe to get their displays from Baum, before they took production in-house. Their displays are extremely sturdy and crisp.

Best wishes

James


On 17/04/2018 22:26, Jason White via Groups.Io wrote:
Unfortunately, yes, Baum is in financial difficulty and currently isn't
operating.

I have owned two of their displays over the years, both excellent. It seems
that I'll have to look elsewhere for my next display, though. I've been doing
the research but have not yet made the final decision.

Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:
Hello!
Atention, BAUM is closed since begining of 2018 due to bankrupcy...

Rui

Às 20:33 de 17/04/2018, Angela Delicata escreveu:
I have Vario Ultra made by Baum which is a German factory... It is very
god with nvda: it works well.



Il 17/04/2018 18:25, Jason White via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Are there any braille displays that are particularly well supported
by NVDA,
including the BrailleExtender add-on and its assignment of keyboard
functions
to braille display keys?

Are there any braille display vendors who have been especially
cooperative
with the NVDA project?

I wish to take this into account in a personal purchasing decision, among
other factors, so I thought I should ask here.








Re: Recommended braille displays for use with NVDA?

Rui Fontes
 

HIMS Braille Edge?

Rui Fontes


Às 22:26 de 17/04/2018, Jason White via Groups.Io escreveu:

Unfortunately, yes, Baum is in financial difficulty and currently isn't
operating.
I have owned two of their displays over the years, both excellent. It seems
that I'll have to look elsewhere for my next display, though. I've been doing
the research but have not yet made the final decision.
Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:
Hello!
Atention, BAUM is closed since begining of 2018 due to bankrupcy...

Rui

Às 20:33 de 17/04/2018, Angela Delicata escreveu:
I have  Vario Ultra made by Baum which is a German factory... It is very
god with nvda: it works well.



Il 17/04/2018 18:25, Jason White via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Are there any braille displays that are particularly well supported
by NVDA,
including the BrailleExtender add-on and its assignment of keyboard
functions
to braille display keys?

Are there any braille display vendors who have been especially
cooperative
with the NVDA project?

I wish to take this into account in a personal purchasing decision, among
other factors, so I thought I should ask here.







.


Re: Recommended braille displays for use with NVDA?

Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
 

I have just bought a Brailliant Bi-40 second hand, it is a very nice display. I cannot get it to work in USB mode though with NVDA, it will work in bluetooth mode, but USB, only if I turn the protocol option to OpenBraille. This is fine, but I cannot also update the firmware, or check for updates with the tool, because it says it cannot find the virtual com port, I've tried removing and installing the driver several times to no avail. I wanted to check if there are any newer firmwares because the bluetooth is kind of on the slightly less than good side of good. It's ok, but it keeps having issues where it will not respond, then it does and everything that was queued up will start going through.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:41 PM, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:
Have you considered a Brailliant from Humanware? They used i believe to get their displays from Baum, before they took production in-house.  Their displays are extremely sturdy  and crisp.

Best wishes

James



On 17/04/2018 22:26, Jason White via Groups.Io wrote:
Unfortunately, yes, Baum is in financial difficulty and currently isn't
operating.

I have owned two of their displays over the years, both excellent. It seems
that I'll have to look elsewhere for my next display, though. I've been doing
the research but have not yet made the final decision.

Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello!
Atention, BAUM is closed since begining of 2018 due to bankrupcy...

Rui

Às 20:33 de 17/04/2018, Angela Delicata escreveu:
I have  Vario Ultra made by Baum which is a German factory... It is very
god with nvda: it works well.



Il 17/04/2018 18:25, Jason White via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Are there any braille displays that are particularly well supported
by NVDA,
including the BrailleExtender add-on and its assignment of keyboard
functions
to braille display keys?

Are there any braille display vendors who have been especially
cooperative
with the NVDA project?

I wish to take this into account in a personal purchasing decision, among
other factors, so I thought I should ask here.


















Re: Recommended braille displays for use with NVDA?

James AUSTIN
 

Have you considered a Brailliant from Humanware? They used i believe to get their displays from Baum, before they took production in-house.  Their displays are extremely sturdy  and crisp.

Best wishes

James

On 17/04/2018 22:26, Jason White via Groups.Io wrote:
Unfortunately, yes, Baum is in financial difficulty and currently isn't
operating.

I have owned two of their displays over the years, both excellent. It seems
that I'll have to look elsewhere for my next display, though. I've been doing
the research but have not yet made the final decision.

Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:
Hello!
Atention, BAUM is closed since begining of 2018 due to bankrupcy...

Rui

Às 20:33 de 17/04/2018, Angela Delicata escreveu:
I have  Vario Ultra made by Baum which is a German factory... It is very
god with nvda: it works well.



Il 17/04/2018 18:25, Jason White via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Are there any braille displays that are particularly well supported
by NVDA,
including the BrailleExtender add-on and its assignment of keyboard
functions
to braille display keys?

Are there any braille display vendors who have been especially
cooperative
with the NVDA project?

I wish to take this into account in a personal purchasing decision, among
other factors, so I thought I should ask here.






Re: Recommended braille displays for use with NVDA?

Jason White
 

Unfortunately, yes, Baum is in financial difficulty and currently isn't
operating.

I have owned two of their displays over the years, both excellent. It seems
that I'll have to look elsewhere for my next display, though. I've been doing
the research but have not yet made the final decision.

Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:

Hello!
Atention, BAUM is closed since begining of 2018 due to bankrupcy...

Rui

Às 20:33 de 17/04/2018, Angela Delicata escreveu:
I have  Vario Ultra made by Baum which is a German factory... It is very
god with nvda: it works well.



Il 17/04/2018 18:25, Jason White via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Are there any braille displays that are particularly well supported
by NVDA,
including the BrailleExtender add-on and its assignment of keyboard
functions
to braille display keys?

Are there any braille display vendors who have been especially
cooperative
with the NVDA project?

I wish to take this into account in a personal purchasing decision, among
other factors, so I thought I should ask here.








Re: Recommended braille displays for use with NVDA?

Rui Fontes
 

You only will have problems if your display have technical problems...

I can't find any company to repair them...

Rui


Às 20:58 de 17/04/2018, Angela Delicata escreveu:

Really? I  did not know it.... So, what will happen for those who have their products?
Ciao and thanks.
Angela  from Italy
Il 17/04/2018 21:48, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
Hello!
Atention, BAUM is closed since begining of 2018 due to bankrupcy...

Rui

Às 20:33 de 17/04/2018, Angela Delicata escreveu:
I have  Vario Ultra made by Baum which is a German factory... It is very god with nvda: it works well.



Il 17/04/2018 18:25, Jason White via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Are there any braille displays that are particularly well supported by NVDA,
including the BrailleExtender add-on and its assignment of keyboard functions
to braille display keys?

Are there any braille display vendors who have been especially cooperative
with the NVDA project?

I wish to take this into account in a personal purchasing decision, among
other factors, so I thought I should ask here.








Re: Recommended braille displays for use with NVDA?

Angela Delicata
 

Really? I  did not know it.... So, what will happen for those who have their products?

Ciao and thanks.

Angela  from Italy

Il 17/04/2018 21:48, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
Hello!
Atention, BAUM is closed since begining of 2018 due to bankrupcy...

Rui

Às 20:33 de 17/04/2018, Angela Delicata escreveu:
I have  Vario Ultra made by Baum which is a German factory... It is very god with nvda: it works well.



Il 17/04/2018 18:25, Jason White via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Are there any braille displays that are particularly well supported by NVDA,
including the BrailleExtender add-on and its assignment of keyboard functions
to braille display keys?

Are there any braille display vendors who have been especially cooperative
with the NVDA project?

I wish to take this into account in a personal purchasing decision, among
other factors, so I thought I should ask here.







Re: Recommended braille displays for use with NVDA?

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!
Atention, BAUM is closed since begining of 2018 due to bankrupcy...

Rui

Às 20:33 de 17/04/2018, Angela Delicata escreveu:

I have  Vario Ultra made by Baum which is a German factory... It is very god with nvda: it works well.
Il 17/04/2018 18:25, Jason White via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Are there any braille displays that are particularly well supported by NVDA,
including the BrailleExtender add-on and its assignment of keyboard functions
to braille display keys?

Are there any braille display vendors who have been especially cooperative
with the NVDA project?

I wish to take this into account in a personal purchasing decision, among
other factors, so I thought I should ask here.




Re: Recommended braille displays for use with NVDA?

Angela Delicata
 

I have  Vario Ultra made by Baum which is a German factory... It is very god with nvda: it works well.

Il 17/04/2018 18:25, Jason White via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Are there any braille displays that are particularly well supported by NVDA,
including the BrailleExtender add-on and its assignment of keyboard functions
to braille display keys?

Are there any braille display vendors who have been especially cooperative
with the NVDA project?

I wish to take this into account in a personal purchasing decision, among
other factors, so I thought I should ask here.



Re: Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

 

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:07 am, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
Put both windows beside on the screen and it will work as you described it.
Just for the record, I did have a side-by-side arrangement of two File Explorer windows when I was doing my testing and the method originally described did not work.
 
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Re: Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

The both windows must be visible at the screen. It doesn’t work if you have all windows maximized. It wouldn’t work either if you were sighted using a mouse. Put both windows beside on the screen and it will work as you described it.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: Dienstag, 17. April 2018 15:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

 

Hi all,

I'm not sure if what I want to do is possible using NVDA but I thought I'd ask.

I've read the mouse functions section in the 2018.1 user guide and have tried routing the mouse to the current object (NVDA+num pad divide), locking the left mouse button on that object (shift+num pad divide), going to another window and then pressing NVDA+num pad divide to route the mouse pointer to that window, and finally pressing shift+num pad divide to release the locked left mouse button and, fingers crosssed, drop the item into that window ... and nothing seems to be happening.

In the user guide it says: Locks the left mouse button down. Press again to release it. To drag the mouse, press this key to lock the left button down and then move the mouse either physically or use one of the other mouse routing commands.

What I want to do is lock the left button on a file in explorer, drag it onto a Python terminal window and then drop the file on that window. There are no objects in that Python terminal window other than the title and the verticle scroll bar.

Grateful for any advice on whether the sequence of my actions is currect, and whether dropping a file in this way is possible. In other similar cases, such as dropping a file into a WordPress media window for uploading a new file, there is also a browse button and I always use that. Without any means of browsing for the file I want to drop in the terminal window I'm a bit stumped.

Giles


Recommended braille displays for use with NVDA?

Jason White
 

Are there any braille displays that are particularly well supported by NVDA,
including the BrailleExtender add-on and its assignment of keyboard functions
to braille display keys?

Are there any braille display vendors who have been especially cooperative
with the NVDA project?

I wish to take this into account in a personal purchasing decision, among
other factors, so I thought I should ask here.


Re: Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Brian,

 

I use copy and paste quite a bit and it does work great for me. Thank you for the tip.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

 

I just tried what you described and although I'd think it would do as you described it doesn't for me, either.

One thing I did try that seems to work is using copy and paste.  Once I have focus on the file I want to drop in the source window I hit the conventional Windows keyboard shortcut CTRL+C to copy it.   I then navigate to the target window using ALT+TAB then get myself positioned such that I am ready to drop it where it needs to be dropped then hit Paste, CTRL+V, which effectively drops it there.

Try this and see if it works for you. 
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Re: NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2: browser gets stuck when loading larger websites

Eigeldinger Simon
 

Hei breien,

No not just on that one.
basically on every site.
just open the site and the complete browser hangs.
and it doesn't stop.

Greetings,
Simon

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Really, is this on just a particular sight? As I say English would be nice
and directions to make it happen.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2:
browser gets stuck when loading larger websites


that is the one that I am using and firefox still hangs

is there a setting that I can use to try to resolve this?


On 4/16/2018 8:12 AM, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
Mine stays that way for basically ever.
firefox uses a lot of processor resources.
so i downgraded for the time being to firefox 52.7.3 esr.
i hope that gets resolved.

greetings,
simon

Am 16.04.2018 um 16:14 schrieb Matt Turner:
I've notest this as well, with netflix, and youtube.

For me just going to youtube.com in firefox, it seems like it takes 1
minit for it to come up.

Then again, it could be my laptop.


On 4/16/2018 9:06 AM, Eigeldinger Simon wrote:

Hi all,

I just saw this issue still exists:

Win 7 Pro 64 Bit

NVDA Next 15037

Firefox 59.0.2 64 Bit

Many larger websites are getting stuck and the browser doesn't respond.

Anyone has seen that still happening?

An example page is for example the Heise Online Newsticker, which is a
computer magazine:

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/

I actually thought this bug has been resolved?

Greetings and thanks,

Simon

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Re: Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

 

I just tried what you described and although I'd think it would do as you described it doesn't for me, either.

One thing I did try that seems to work is using copy and paste.  Once I have focus on the file I want to drop in the source window I hit the conventional Windows keyboard shortcut CTRL+C to copy it.   I then navigate to the target window using ALT+TAB then get myself positioned such that I am ready to drop it where it needs to be dropped then hit Paste, CTRL+V, which effectively drops it there.

Try this and see if it works for you. 
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Re: NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2: browser gets stuck when loading larger websites

Eigeldinger Simon
 

It even doesn't let me that in firefox 59 64 bit on win 7 pro 64 bit.


Greetings,
Simon

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All Firefox versions are sluggish these days, but the new ones seem to be
far worse in this respect on certain web sites.
One gets the impression it s not going to let you do anything till its
loaded, whereas earlier versions allowed you to do stuff before it hade
completely finished loading.
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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2:
browser gets stuck when loading larger websites


I've notest this as well, with netflix, and youtube.

For me just going to youtube.com in firefox, it seems like it takes 1
minit for it to come up.

Then again, it could be my laptop.


On 4/16/2018 9:06 AM, Eigeldinger Simon wrote:

Hi all,

I just saw this issue still exists:

Win 7 Pro 64 Bit

NVDA Next 15037

Firefox 59.0.2 64 Bit

Many larger websites are getting stuck and the browser doesn't respond.

Anyone has seen that still happening?

An example page is for example the Heise Online Newsticker, which is a
computer magazine:

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/

I actually thought this bug has been resolved?

Greetings and thanks,

Simon


Re: NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2: browser gets stuck when loading larger websites

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Really, is this on just a particular sight? As I say English would be nice and directions to make it happen.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2: browser gets stuck when loading larger websites


that is the one that I am using and firefox still hangs

is there a setting that I can use to try to resolve this?


On 4/16/2018 8:12 AM, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
Mine stays that way for basically ever.
firefox uses a lot of processor resources.
so i downgraded for the time being to firefox 52.7.3 esr.
i hope that gets resolved.

greetings,
simon

Am 16.04.2018 um 16:14 schrieb Matt Turner:
I've notest this as well, with netflix, and youtube.

For me just going to youtube.com in firefox, it seems like it takes 1 minit for it to come up.

Then again, it could be my laptop.


On 4/16/2018 9:06 AM, Eigeldinger Simon wrote:

Hi all,

I just saw this issue still exists:

Win 7 Pro 64 Bit

NVDA Next 15037

Firefox 59.0.2 64 Bit

Many larger websites are getting stuck and the browser doesn’t respond.

Anyone has seen that still happening?

An example page is for example the Heise Online Newsticker, which is a computer magazine:

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/

I actually thought this bug has been resolved?

Greetings and thanks,

Simon

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Re: NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2: browser gets stuck when loading larger websites

Eigeldinger Simon
 

You don't need to understand anything on that website.
Its as you describe.

I have downgraded to firefox 52.7.3 esr again.
that fixes it.
but firefox will soon upgrade their esr to 60 so i guess that needs to be fixed before.

Greetings,
Simon

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Does this sight exist in English. hard to test when i cannot understand it.
:-)
I am using firefox 52esr due to stuttering and messing about with the new
firefoxes in windoze 7.
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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 2:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2:
browser gets stuck when loading larger websites



Hi all,

I just saw this issue still exists:
Win 7 Pro 64 Bit
NVDA Next 15037
Firefox 59.0.2 64 Bit

Many larger websites are getting stuck and the browser doesn't respond.
Anyone has seen that still happening?
An example page is for example the Heise Online Newsticker, which is a
computer magazine:
https://www.heise.de/newsticker/

I actually thought this bug has been resolved?

Greetings and thanks,
Simon