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Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Tyler Wood
 

Hi

Should add here that I have no clue what Sarah is talking about by not accessible.

It is, and has been, accessible for years when using the PE or, these days, the windows 10 installer dvd.

Even the surface book can be booted from USB by holding down the volume down key while pressing the power button. Lenovo is f2, if I remember correctly for anything made after 2013 or so.


On 18-Apr-2018 6:23 PM, Gene wrote:

The link to the version that, as I recall, supports Windows 10 created by the late Carlos, owner of the Techtalk list, is available on this page:
 
I believe this PE environment is superior to the other one when working with Windows 7 as well though I'm just saying that based on vague impressions of discussions on TechTalk.  I haven't used either and know little about them.
 
The page has other programs and utilities that may be of interest.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Well, since Sarah joined in, and before I forget to send some helpful info, I will describe how I would do it.

You can go to:

https://blog.bryansmart.com/talking-windows-7-pre-installation-environment/

and download a talking copy of WinPE.  I believe his only includes WinPe for windows 7.

I have a Windows 10 WinPe that talks, from another site, but my work network won’t allow me to either go to that site or send a link to it, as it scans URLs for wording it does not like.

Anyway, you can put WinPe on a DVD or USB thumb drive and boot to it and you are in windows.

Not your windows, but WinPe.

You will have Internet access and lots of utilities.

I’m sure you can scan a drive for viruses this way too.

You can make an ISO of your C: drive and put it on another drive and format your drive and either reinstall Windows, or put the ISO contents back onto the drive.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

In my case I just used aira  to help me as the process for me is not accessible at all. We got it done in about 5 minutes thanks ssd.



On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

 

I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, 
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made 
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then 
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its 
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may 
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is 
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if 
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's 
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, 
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer 
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been 
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did 
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was 
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the 
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc 
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to 
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

bglists@...
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Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner 
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to 
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.





-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...






 



Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Gene
 

But in this case, the person is using someone else's document.  it appears your comments imply that the text of the document may have been sent as an image.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Hi Gene!

If you change the setting on the Google Docs

Web site to always upload as a Google Doc, images are always scanned by Google, and even an image PDF is uploaded as a Google Doc.

You can just press enter on the file, and open it up in the Google Docs window.

I do that all the time, and it is so very powerful!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

 

The first question, at least for me, who knows very little about Google Docs, (spelling) is whether images can be sent using it.  If this is an image, some way of recognizing the text must be found.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

 

Hello Dan,
Have you tried refreshing the page with f5?
When I can't read anything, I go the adress bar and then I return to the document.
Have you also tried turning browse mode on and off with nvda+space bar?
I have no other ideas for the moment.
Best
Sylvie
Le 18/04/2018 à 18:47, Dan Beaver a écrit :

Thank you for the info.

 

I tried using the ctrl+alt+z stroke and it said screen reader support enabled.  However, it still just says "about:".  My wife looked at the screen and it has other info on it but NVDA can't read it.

 

Any other ideas?  Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to make it accessible?

 

Dan Beaver

 

On 4/18/2018 12:01 PM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello Dan,

Google docs works fine with Chrome and NVDA.

You have to enable screen reader support in pressing ctrl+alt+Z.

Sylvie

Le 18/04/2018 à 17:35, Dan Beaver a écrit :

HI,

 

I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it.  I can only hear the first line which says "About:".

 

Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

 

 

 

 


Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

David Moore
 

Hi!

I use it with Chrome all the time.

Make sure that you have NVDA in focus mode. You should be able to use all of the navigation commands like arrows, page up and down and so on to read the document. Any type of document can be opened as a Google doc. Once a file opens in Google Docs, it is automatically changed into a Google doc. There is no conversion you need to perform on your own, Google does the conversion by itself. So, a PDF will open as a Google doc, if it is in the Google Docs Window!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

 

HI,

 

I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it.  I can only hear the first line which says "About:".

 

Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

 


Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

David Moore
 

Hi Gene!

If you change the setting on the Google Docs

Web site to always upload as a Google Doc, images are always scanned by Google, and even an image PDF is uploaded as a Google Doc.

You can just press enter on the file, and open it up in the Google Docs window.

I do that all the time, and it is so very powerful!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

 

The first question, at least for me, who knows very little about Google Docs, (spelling) is whether images can be sent using it.  If this is an image, some way of recognizing the text must be found.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

 

Hello Dan,
Have you tried refreshing the page with f5?
When I can't read anything, I go the adress bar and then I return to the document.
Have you also tried turning browse mode on and off with nvda+space bar?
I have no other ideas for the moment.
Best
Sylvie
Le 18/04/2018 à 18:47, Dan Beaver a écrit :

Thank you for the info.

 

I tried using the ctrl+alt+z stroke and it said screen reader support enabled.  However, it still just says "about:".  My wife looked at the screen and it has other info on it but NVDA can't read it.

 

Any other ideas?  Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to make it accessible?

 

Dan Beaver

 

On 4/18/2018 12:01 PM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello Dan,

Google docs works fine with Chrome and NVDA.

You have to enable screen reader support in pressing ctrl+alt+Z.

Sylvie

Le 18/04/2018 à 17:35, Dan Beaver a écrit :

HI,

 

I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it.  I can only hear the first line which says "About:".

 

Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

 

 

 

 


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Gene
 

The link to the version that, as I recall, supports Windows 10 created by the late Carlos, owner of the Techtalk list, is available on this page:
 
I believe this PE environment is superior to the other one when working with Windows 7 as well though I'm just saying that based on vague impressions of discussions on TechTalk.  I haven't used either and know little about them.
 
The page has other programs and utilities that may be of interest.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Well, since Sarah joined in, and before I forget to send some helpful info, I will describe how I would do it.

You can go to:

https://blog.bryansmart.com/talking-windows-7-pre-installation-environment/

and download a talking copy of WinPE.  I believe his only includes WinPe for windows 7.

I have a Windows 10 WinPe that talks, from another site, but my work network won’t allow me to either go to that site or send a link to it, as it scans URLs for wording it does not like.

Anyway, you can put WinPe on a DVD or USB thumb drive and boot to it and you are in windows.

Not your windows, but WinPe.

You will have Internet access and lots of utilities.

I’m sure you can scan a drive for viruses this way too.

You can make an ISO of your C: drive and put it on another drive and format your drive and either reinstall Windows, or put the ISO contents back onto the drive.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

In my case I just used aira  to help me as the process for me is not accessible at all. We got it done in about 5 minutes thanks ssd.



On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

 

I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, 
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made 
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then 
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its 
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may 
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is 
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if 
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's 
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, 
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer 
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been 
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did 
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was 
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the 
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc 
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to 
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner 
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to 
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.





-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...






 


Re: NVDA and Focus 14 Bluetooth Braille Display

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Open NVDA manual, look for the Freedom Scientific Braille displays section and find there the link for the Focus driver...

Install it, and Focus will appear in Braille displays list.

Rui


Às 00:06 de 19/04/2018, Brian Vogel escreveu:

I have a Win10 laptop with a Focus 14 Braille Display from Freedom Scientific paired with it.  When I go into the NVDA Preferences menu, Braille Settings there is nothing presented in a rather long list that makes any sense since there isn't a thing for Focus or Freedom Scientific in that list.  Is the Focus line of Braille Displays not supported?  If it is, what am I doing wrong.
By the way, we did shut down NVDA after pairing the device and restarted it and that made no difference.
Any assistance gratefully accepted.
--
Brian- Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1709, Build 16299  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)
*//**/The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement./**/  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another/**/ profound truth./*
*/~ /**/Niels Bohr/*


Urgently need help (word 2010)

prem.translator@...
 

I’m doing a research, after I sent a draft to my advisor, my advisor send me back the original with the following style of editor revision: insertion, Deletion, property formatted, and comment. I use Word 2010 with the latest version of NVDA, and here is my problem.

- I have two files with the same file format (.docx).
- For the two files, the first one, there is no table. but the other one contains only a table with about 28 rolls and 4 columns in each roll, and everything is in the table.
- Both have the same style of editor revision (insertion, deletion and comment).
- The problem is: when I open both files and list the elements using insert + F7 and choose "annotations", NVDA can list annotations for the file that doesn't have table, but not for the other one.

Below are links for both files.

First file:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=10IuAreAsiaMMjWJ7QOoRMURlCRzl7C4a

second file:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C3HRJmtNSVj_9gK8oxIk6WmbFlENcCE0

Please help me,
Thank you.


NVDA and Focus 14 Bluetooth Braille Display

 

I have a Win10 laptop with a Focus 14 Braille Display from Freedom Scientific paired with it.  When I go into the NVDA Preferences menu, Braille Settings there is nothing presented in a rather long list that makes any sense since there isn't a thing for Focus or Freedom Scientific in that list.  Is the Focus line of Braille Displays not supported?  If it is, what am I doing wrong.

By the way, we did shut down NVDA after pairing the device and restarted it and that made no difference.

Any assistance gratefully accepted.

--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1709, Build 16299  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Gene
 

The first question, at least for me, who knows very little about Google Docs, (spelling) is whether images can be sent using it.  If this is an image, some way of recognizing the text must be found.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Hello Dan,
Have you tried refreshing the page with f5?
When I can't read anything, I go the adress bar and then I return to the document.
Have you also tried turning browse mode on and off with nvda+space bar?
I have no other ideas for the moment.
Best
Sylvie
Le 18/04/2018 à 18:47, Dan Beaver a écrit :

Thank you for the info.


I tried using the ctrl+alt+z stroke and it said screen reader support enabled.  However, it still just says "about:".  My wife looked at the screen and it has other info on it but NVDA can't read it.


Any other ideas?  Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to make it accessible?


Dan Beaver


On 4/18/2018 12:01 PM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello Dan,

Google docs works fine with Chrome and NVDA.

You have to enable screen reader support in pressing ctrl+alt+Z.

Sylvie

Le 18/04/2018 à 17:35, Dan Beaver a écrit :

HI,


I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it.  I can only hear the first line which says "About:".


Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver





Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Dan,
Have you tried refreshing the page with f5?
When I can't read anything, I go the adress bar and then I return to the document.
Have you also tried turning browse mode on and off with nvda+space bar?
I have no other ideas for the moment.
Best
Sylvie
Le 18/04/2018 à 18:47, Dan Beaver a écrit :

Thank you for the info.


I tried using the ctrl+alt+z stroke and it said screen reader support enabled.  However, it still just says "about:".  My wife looked at the screen and it has other info on it but NVDA can't read it.


Any other ideas?  Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to make it accessible?


Dan Beaver


On 4/18/2018 12:01 PM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello Dan,

Google docs works fine with Chrome and NVDA.

You have to enable screen reader support in pressing ctrl+alt+Z.

Sylvie

Le 18/04/2018 à 17:35, Dan Beaver a écrit :

HI,


I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it.  I can only hear the first line which says "About:".


Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver





Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

It is still good if you wanted to do other maintenance though, as I mentioned in the past message.

But you would need the Windows 10 WinPe.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:19 PM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

In my case that won't help. I have an unattended install from the guys at my custom built pc that just installs everythign includign the drivers and stuff. No quartana nothing. And narrator comes up talking at full volume like I told them to do when I bought the machine. These guys are wonderful, ecept for the unattended install the rest of windows 10 is fully accessible and fast.



On Apr 18, 2018, at 1:14 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

 

Well, since Sarah joined in, and before I forget to send some helpful info, I will describe how I would do it.

You can go to:

and download a talking copy of WinPE.  I believe his only includes WinPe for windows 7.

I have a Windows 10 WinPe that talks, from another site, but my work network won’t allow me to either go to that site or send a link to it, as it scans URLs for wording it does not like.

Anyway, you can put WinPe on a DVD or USB thumb drive and boot to it and you are in windows.

Not your windows, but WinPe.

You will have Internet access and lots of utilities.

I’m sure you can scan a drive for viruses this way too.

You can make an ISO of your C: drive and put it on another drive and format your drive and either reinstall Windows, or put the ISO contents back onto the drive.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

In my case I just used aira  to help me as the process for me is not accessible at all. We got it done in about 5 minutes thanks ssd.




On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

 

I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:


It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, 
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made 
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then 
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its 
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may 
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:


I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is 
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if 
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's 
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, 
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer 
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been 
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did 
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was 
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the 
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc 
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to 
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner 
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to 
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.






-- 
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Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Sarah k Alawami
 

In my case that won't help. I have an unattended install from the guys at my custom built pc that just installs everythign includign the drivers and stuff. No quartana nothing. And narrator comes up talking at full volume like I told them to do when I bought the machine. These guys are wonderful, ecept for the unattended install the rest of windows 10 is fully accessible and fast.

On Apr 18, 2018, at 1:14 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

Well, since Sarah joined in, and before I forget to send some helpful info, I will describe how I would do it.
You can go to:
and download a talking copy of WinPE.  I believe his only includes WinPe for windows 7.
I have a Windows 10 WinPe that talks, from another site, but my work network won’t allow me to either go to that site or send a link to it, as it scans URLs for wording it does not like.
Anyway, you can put WinPe on a DVD or USB thumb drive and boot to it and you are in windows.
Not your windows, but WinPe.
You will have Internet access and lots of utilities.
I’m sure you can scan a drive for viruses this way too.
You can make an ISO of your C: drive and put it on another drive and format your drive and either reinstall Windows, or put the ISO contents back onto the drive.
Glenn
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!
 
In my case I just used aira  to help me as the process for me is not accessible at all. We got it done in about 5 minutes thanks ssd.


On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:
 
I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, 
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made 
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then 
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its 
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may 
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is 
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if 
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's 
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, 
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer 
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been 
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did 
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was 
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the 
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc 
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to 
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner 
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to 
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.





-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...






 



Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

Well, since Sarah joined in, and before I forget to send some helpful info, I will describe how I would do it.

You can go to:

https://blog.bryansmart.com/talking-windows-7-pre-installation-environment/

and download a talking copy of WinPE.  I believe his only includes WinPe for windows 7.

I have a Windows 10 WinPe that talks, from another site, but my work network won’t allow me to either go to that site or send a link to it, as it scans URLs for wording it does not like.

Anyway, you can put WinPe on a DVD or USB thumb drive and boot to it and you are in windows.

Not your windows, but WinPe.

You will have Internet access and lots of utilities.

I’m sure you can scan a drive for viruses this way too.

You can make an ISO of your C: drive and put it on another drive and format your drive and either reinstall Windows, or put the ISO contents back onto the drive.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

In my case I just used aira  to help me as the process for me is not accessible at all. We got it done in about 5 minutes thanks ssd.



On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

 

I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, 
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made 
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then 
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its 
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may 
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is 
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if 
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's 
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, 
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer 
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been 
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did 
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was 
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the 
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc 
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to 
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner 
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to 
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.





-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...






 


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Sarah k Alawami
 

In my case I just used aira  to help me as the process for me is not accessible at all. We got it done in about 5 minutes thanks ssd.

On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, 
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made 
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then 
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its 
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may 
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is 
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if 
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's 
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, 
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer 
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been 
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did 
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was 
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the 
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc 
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to 
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner 
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to 
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.






-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...







Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away,
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are,
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Carlos
 

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks.  rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!

On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.

--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...


Re: Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

Giles Turnbull
 

for clarification of why I need to drag and drop, it is a means of removing DRM from iTunes films so I'll be able to convert them to mp3 and then play them on my Blaze book reader. I only have iTunes on my laptop which is too heavy to cart around with me. My alternative is to use Virtual Recorder to record iTunes playing the film as an mp3, but that means playing the whole episode through at 1x speed. Being able to de-DRM them and convert them in a fraction of the time would be a huge help.

I have the complete X-Files series 5 and was pondering geting all the other X-Files series (yeah, I'm a bit nerdy!) but I don't fancy doing that if I can't convert the audio to mp3.

Thanks for these drag and drop ideas and see how I get on :)


Re: Accessible Screen Recording Software

Brian's Mail list account
 

I'm assuming the one built into windows 10 on a hot key is not accessible then?
I'm not sure how you get it but it seems to be known about by sighted friends as undocumented but in place.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bhavya shah" <bhavya.shah125@...>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>; "main" <main@techtalk.groups.io>; "blindtech" <blindtech@groups.io>; "keyboardusers" <keyboardusers@...>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:27 PM
Subject: [nvda] Accessible Screen Recording Software


Dear all,
For a certain purpose, I am in need of an accessible screen capturing
and recording software for my Windows 8.1 powered laptop. According to
my preliminary research, some recommended accessible programs for this
purpose include Camtasia, Open Broadcasting Software and WebInAria. I
have perfunctorily read about or tried each of these software and
following is a summary of my present knowledge:
Camtasia: I have installed the huge software’s free trial for now. I
seem unable to find any self-explanatorily worded option to start a
screen recording, am just Tabbing around the interface through the
different options and some unlabelled toggle buttons, and am uncertain
as to how I should proceed from this point.
Open Broadcasting Software: I have seen a blind individual
recommending OBS Classic, which fork of this software is now
deprecated according to the developer’s website. Should I still try
out OBS Classic, or is the newer OBS studio accessible?
WebInAria: This software seems to have no dedicated website of its
own, the number and quality of ratings it has received on software
hosting sites are low, and it seems like this program hasn’t been
updated in several years now.
I would deeply appreciate it if you could either shed some light on
the above-mentioned software, or alternatively suggest other
accessible screen capturing and recording software that are usable
with a screen reader, especially NVDA.
Thanks.

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Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Jason White
 

Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:

Any other ideas? Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to
make it accessible?
No. I just tried it here with NVDA 2018.1.1 and Chrome 65 - it all worked as
expected.


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may never need extras in the first place.

On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was equally slow on 10!
Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to miraculously speed it up!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica









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