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NVDA and Focus 14 Bluetooth Braille Display

 

I have a Win10 laptop with a Focus 14 Braille Display from Freedom Scientific paired with it.  When I go into the NVDA Preferences menu, Braille Settings there is nothing presented in a rather long list that makes any sense since there isn't a thing for Focus or Freedom Scientific in that list.  Is the Focus line of Braille Displays not supported?  If it is, what am I doing wrong.

By the way, we did shut down NVDA after pairing the device and restarted it and that made no difference.

Any assistance gratefully accepted.

--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1709, Build 16299  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Gene
 

The first question, at least for me, who knows very little about Google Docs, (spelling) is whether images can be sent using it.  If this is an image, some way of recognizing the text must be found.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Hello Dan,
Have you tried refreshing the page with f5?
When I can't read anything, I go the adress bar and then I return to the document.
Have you also tried turning browse mode on and off with nvda+space bar?
I have no other ideas for the moment.
Best
Sylvie
Le 18/04/2018 à 18:47, Dan Beaver a écrit :

Thank you for the info.


I tried using the ctrl+alt+z stroke and it said screen reader support enabled.  However, it still just says "about:".  My wife looked at the screen and it has other info on it but NVDA can't read it.


Any other ideas?  Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to make it accessible?


Dan Beaver


On 4/18/2018 12:01 PM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello Dan,

Google docs works fine with Chrome and NVDA.

You have to enable screen reader support in pressing ctrl+alt+Z.

Sylvie

Le 18/04/2018 à 17:35, Dan Beaver a écrit :

HI,


I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it.  I can only hear the first line which says "About:".


Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver





Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Dan,
Have you tried refreshing the page with f5?
When I can't read anything, I go the adress bar and then I return to the document.
Have you also tried turning browse mode on and off with nvda+space bar?
I have no other ideas for the moment.
Best
Sylvie

Le 18/04/2018 à 18:47, Dan Beaver a écrit :

Thank you for the info.


I tried using the ctrl+alt+z stroke and it said screen reader support enabled.  However, it still just says "about:".  My wife looked at the screen and it has other info on it but NVDA can't read it.


Any other ideas?  Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to make it accessible?


Dan Beaver


On 4/18/2018 12:01 PM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello Dan,

Google docs works fine with Chrome and NVDA.

You have to enable screen reader support in pressing ctrl+alt+Z.

Sylvie

Le 18/04/2018 à 17:35, Dan Beaver a écrit :

HI,


I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it.  I can only hear the first line which says "About:".


Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver





Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

It is still good if you wanted to do other maintenance though, as I mentioned in the past message.

But you would need the Windows 10 WinPe.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:19 PM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

In my case that won't help. I have an unattended install from the guys at my custom built pc that just installs everythign includign the drivers and stuff. No quartana nothing. And narrator comes up talking at full volume like I told them to do when I bought the machine. These guys are wonderful, ecept for the unattended install the rest of windows 10 is fully accessible and fast.



On Apr 18, 2018, at 1:14 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

 

Well, since Sarah joined in, and before I forget to send some helpful info, I will describe how I would do it.

You can go to:

and download a talking copy of WinPE.  I believe his only includes WinPe for windows 7.

I have a Windows 10 WinPe that talks, from another site, but my work network won’t allow me to either go to that site or send a link to it, as it scans URLs for wording it does not like.

Anyway, you can put WinPe on a DVD or USB thumb drive and boot to it and you are in windows.

Not your windows, but WinPe.

You will have Internet access and lots of utilities.

I’m sure you can scan a drive for viruses this way too.

You can make an ISO of your C: drive and put it on another drive and format your drive and either reinstall Windows, or put the ISO contents back onto the drive.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

In my case I just used aira  to help me as the process for me is not accessible at all. We got it done in about 5 minutes thanks ssd.




On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

 

I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:


It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, 
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made 
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then 
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its 
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may 
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:


I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is 
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if 
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's 
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, 
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer 
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been 
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did 
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was 
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the 
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc 
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to 
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

bglists@...
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Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner 
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to 
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.






-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...







 

 


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Sarah k Alawami
 

In my case that won't help. I have an unattended install from the guys at my custom built pc that just installs everythign includign the drivers and stuff. No quartana nothing. And narrator comes up talking at full volume like I told them to do when I bought the machine. These guys are wonderful, ecept for the unattended install the rest of windows 10 is fully accessible and fast.

On Apr 18, 2018, at 1:14 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

Well, since Sarah joined in, and before I forget to send some helpful info, I will describe how I would do it.
You can go to:
and download a talking copy of WinPE.  I believe his only includes WinPe for windows 7.
I have a Windows 10 WinPe that talks, from another site, but my work network won’t allow me to either go to that site or send a link to it, as it scans URLs for wording it does not like.
Anyway, you can put WinPe on a DVD or USB thumb drive and boot to it and you are in windows.
Not your windows, but WinPe.
You will have Internet access and lots of utilities.
I’m sure you can scan a drive for viruses this way too.
You can make an ISO of your C: drive and put it on another drive and format your drive and either reinstall Windows, or put the ISO contents back onto the drive.
Glenn
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!
 
In my case I just used aira  to help me as the process for me is not accessible at all. We got it done in about 5 minutes thanks ssd.


On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:
 
I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, 
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made 
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then 
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its 
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may 
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is 
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if 
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's 
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, 
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer 
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been 
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did 
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was 
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the 
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc 
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to 
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner 
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to 
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.





-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...






 



Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

Well, since Sarah joined in, and before I forget to send some helpful info, I will describe how I would do it.

You can go to:

https://blog.bryansmart.com/talking-windows-7-pre-installation-environment/

and download a talking copy of WinPE.  I believe his only includes WinPe for windows 7.

I have a Windows 10 WinPe that talks, from another site, but my work network won’t allow me to either go to that site or send a link to it, as it scans URLs for wording it does not like.

Anyway, you can put WinPe on a DVD or USB thumb drive and boot to it and you are in windows.

Not your windows, but WinPe.

You will have Internet access and lots of utilities.

I’m sure you can scan a drive for viruses this way too.

You can make an ISO of your C: drive and put it on another drive and format your drive and either reinstall Windows, or put the ISO contents back onto the drive.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

In my case I just used aira  to help me as the process for me is not accessible at all. We got it done in about 5 minutes thanks ssd.



On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

 

I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, 
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made 
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then 
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its 
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may 
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is 
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if 
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's 
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, 
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer 
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been 
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did 
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was 
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the 
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc 
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to 
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner 
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to 
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.





-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...






 


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Sarah k Alawami
 

In my case I just used aira  to help me as the process for me is not accessible at all. We got it done in about 5 minutes thanks ssd.

On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, 
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made 
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then 
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its 
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may 
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is 
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if 
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's 
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, 
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer 
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been 
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did 
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was 
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the 
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc 
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to 
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner 
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to 
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.






-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...







Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away,
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are,
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

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From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.


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Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Carlos
 

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks.  rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!

On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

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Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

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Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.

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Re: Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

Giles Turnbull
 

for clarification of why I need to drag and drop, it is a means of removing DRM from iTunes films so I'll be able to convert them to mp3 and then play them on my Blaze book reader. I only have iTunes on my laptop which is too heavy to cart around with me. My alternative is to use Virtual Recorder to record iTunes playing the film as an mp3, but that means playing the whole episode through at 1x speed. Being able to de-DRM them and convert them in a fraction of the time would be a huge help.

I have the complete X-Files series 5 and was pondering geting all the other X-Files series (yeah, I'm a bit nerdy!) but I don't fancy doing that if I can't convert the audio to mp3.

Thanks for these drag and drop ideas and see how I get on :)


Re: Accessible Screen Recording Software

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I'm assuming the one built into windows 10 on a hot key is not accessible then?
I'm not sure how you get it but it seems to be known about by sighted friends as undocumented but in place.
Brian

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To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>; "main" <main@techtalk.groups.io>; "blindtech" <blindtech@groups.io>; "keyboardusers" <keyboardusers@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:27 PM
Subject: [nvda] Accessible Screen Recording Software


Dear all,
For a certain purpose, I am in need of an accessible screen capturing
and recording software for my Windows 8.1 powered laptop. According to
my preliminary research, some recommended accessible programs for this
purpose include Camtasia, Open Broadcasting Software and WebInAria. I
have perfunctorily read about or tried each of these software and
following is a summary of my present knowledge:
Camtasia: I have installed the huge software’s free trial for now. I
seem unable to find any self-explanatorily worded option to start a
screen recording, am just Tabbing around the interface through the
different options and some unlabelled toggle buttons, and am uncertain
as to how I should proceed from this point.
Open Broadcasting Software: I have seen a blind individual
recommending OBS Classic, which fork of this software is now
deprecated according to the developer’s website. Should I still try
out OBS Classic, or is the newer OBS studio accessible?
WebInAria: This software seems to have no dedicated website of its
own, the number and quality of ratings it has received on software
hosting sites are low, and it seems like this program hasn’t been
updated in several years now.
I would deeply appreciate it if you could either shed some light on
the above-mentioned software, or alternatively suggest other
accessible screen capturing and recording software that are usable
with a screen reader, especially NVDA.
Thanks.

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Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Jason White
 

Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:

Any other ideas? Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to
make it accessible?
No. I just tried it here with NVDA 2018.1.1 and Chrome 65 - it all worked as
expected.


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may never need extras in the first place.

On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was equally slow on 10!
Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to miraculously speed it up!
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica









.


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

Something else that I forgot to mention in my original post on this, regarding the speed of a computer, is that many programs install start-up items which remain in memory while you are using the computer.

For example, Office loads itself up on start-up, and if one is not opening Office programs often, there is no need to have it loading up on start-up.

I usually go into people’s MsConfig file, if they are reporting a slow computer, and turn off all the programs except the essential ones, like their anti-virus program, their screenreader, and brand-specific drivers that the computer might need, such as Dell Audio or whatever.

Adobe updater is one I usually turn off, and anything having to do with Adobe on start-up.

 

To run MsConfig, at the run window, type in msconfig and press enter.

You can control + tab to the startup tab and use your space bar to uncheck items.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

It's a contraversial issue but I subscribe to the view that registry cleaners should generally not be used unless a problem is caused by a problem in the registry.  See this article for one knowledgeable computer tech's comments on the question.

 

Also, it appears to me that using something like the CCleaner registry cleaner on the least aggressive setting may not pose much risk of problems, but I don't believe in taking even small risks without any expectation of benefit. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:08 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

I have used registry cleaners for many years, and my computers have never experienced any ill effects that I could attribute to the registry.

I think that registry cleaners are the “whipping boy” for folks who have no solution for people’s computer problems, so they blame the registry software.

I used to use PC Tools Registry Mechanic many years ago, and it got integrated into another software package.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

I beg to differ, and strenuously, about registry cleaners.  IT professionals do not approve of their use and they're generally viewed as snake oil, or worse.

Microsoft, Malwarebytes, and BleepingComputer.com don't recommend registry cleaners.

 

See: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/373006/registry-cleaners/

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Re: NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2: browser gets stuck when loading larger websites

Simon Eigeldinger
 

i guess its not a processor power issue.
its more the issue of the browser or the screenreader.
it can't be that the processor runs at 100% when the browser runs on most sites.
a small page with just a few lines of html doesn't make the whole thing come down but for example the youtube site or other sites do.
so in my opinion we can't have that and this should be investigated much further.

Am 18.04.2018 um 20:41 schrieb Shaun Everiss:
Well later programs need more guts.
Win10 recomends at least 4th gen though it will run lower.
But an i3 first gen mobile class is a bit of a joke.
A 3rd gen i7 with ssd is not, but 4th gen fresh install runs a little faster than that.
On 18/04/2018 2:05 a.m., Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
It even doesn't let me that in firefox 59 64 bit on win 7 pro 64 bit.


Greetings,
Simon

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Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2: browser gets stuck when loading larger websites

All Firefox versions are sluggish these days, but the new ones seem to be
far worse in this respect on certain web sites.
  One gets the impression it s not going to let you do anything till its
loaded, whereas earlier versions allowed you to do stuff before it hade
completely finished loading.
  brian

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To: "NVDA" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2:
browser gets stuck when loading larger websites


I've notest this as well, with netflix, and youtube.

For me just going to youtube.com in firefox, it seems like it takes 1
minit for it to come up.

Then again, it could be my laptop.


On 4/16/2018 9:06 AM, Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
Hi all,

I just saw this issue still exists:

Win 7 Pro 64 Bit

NVDA Next 15037

Firefox 59.0.2 64 Bit

Many larger websites are getting stuck and the browser doesn't respond.

Anyone has seen that still happening?

An example page is for example the Heise Online Newsticker, which is a
computer magazine:

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/

I actually thought this bug has been resolved?

Greetings and thanks,

Simon






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Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Gene
 

It's a contraversial issue but I subscribe to the view that registry cleaners should generally not be used unless a problem is caused by a problem in the registry.  See this article for one knowledgeable computer tech's comments on the question.
 
Also, it appears to me that using something like the CCleaner registry cleaner on the least aggressive setting may not pose much risk of problems, but I don't believe in taking even small risks without any expectation of benefit. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I have used registry cleaners for many years, and my computers have never experienced any ill effects that I could attribute to the registry.

I think that registry cleaners are the “whipping boy” for folks who have no solution for people’s computer problems, so they blame the registry software.

I used to use PC Tools Registry Mechanic many years ago, and it got integrated into another software package.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

I beg to differ, and strenuously, about registry cleaners.  IT professionals do not approve of their use and they're generally viewed as snake oil, or worse.

Microsoft, Malwarebytes, and BleepingComputer.com don't recommend registry cleaners.

 

See: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/373006/registry-cleaners/

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Re: NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2: browser gets stuck when loading larger websites

 

Well later programs need more guts.

Win10 recomends at least 4th gen though it will run lower.

But an i3 first gen mobile class is a bit of a joke.

A 3rd gen i7 with ssd is not, but 4th gen fresh install runs a little faster than that.

On 18/04/2018 2:05 a.m., Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
It even doesn't let me that in firefox 59 64 bit on win 7 pro 64 bit.


Greetings,
Simon

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An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2: browser gets stuck when loading larger websites

All Firefox versions are sluggish these days, but the new ones seem to be
far worse in this respect on certain web sites.
One gets the impression it s not going to let you do anything till its
loaded, whereas earlier versions allowed you to do stuff before it hade
completely finished loading.
brian

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From: "Matt Turner" <meturner2214@gmail.com>
To: "NVDA" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Next 15037, Win 7 64 Bit, Firefox 64 Bit 59.0.2:
browser gets stuck when loading larger websites


I've notest this as well, with netflix, and youtube.

For me just going to youtube.com in firefox, it seems like it takes 1
minit for it to come up.

Then again, it could be my laptop.


On 4/16/2018 9:06 AM, Eigeldinger Simon wrote:
Hi all,

I just saw this issue still exists:

Win 7 Pro 64 Bit

NVDA Next 15037

Firefox 59.0.2 64 Bit

Many larger websites are getting stuck and the browser doesn't respond.

Anyone has seen that still happening?

An example page is for example the Heise Online Newsticker, which is a
computer magazine:

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/

I actually thought this bug has been resolved?

Greetings and thanks,

Simon





.


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

I think that the biggest problem with registry cleaners is that people use the so-called free ones.

There’s no such thing as a free lunch as they say.

I think that a lot of freeware programs inject malware and scareware into your system.

Usually the only free programs I download are from SourceForge.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

I beg to differ, and strenuously, about registry cleaners.  IT professionals do not approve of their use and they're generally viewed as snake oil, or worse.

Microsoft, Malwarebytes, and BleepingComputer.com don't recommend registry cleaners.

 

See: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/373006/registry-cleaners/

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Re: Dragging and Dropping with NVDA

Brian Moore
 

Hi.  I have never been able to do this consistantly in thunderbird.

What is this add on called.  Must get it.

On 04/18/2018 2:05 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
I have that addon, but I didn't know you could just hit nvda+h to rearrange the columns in thunderbird. Maybe it's a good thing I didn't know, though, and learned how to drag and drop because now I know how to do it the hard way--kind of like learning how to do a math problem the long way, then being told you can use the calculator. (smile).

Annette


On 4/18/2018 3:21 AM, Ishe Chinyoka wrote:
Thanks. This addon has made my Thunderbird highly customisable: with a
simple NVDA+H, you can rearrange columns in the message list pane. It
also has other convenient shortcut keys to quickly jump to message
fields while reading. This is indeed a cool addon.



Ron Canazzi:
The NVDA add on you want is called Mozilla Apps Enhancements.



On 4/17/2018 10:19 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If there is an add-on I would appreciate it if someone would name it.

What was last discussed, when I checked it out, did not include
anything related to reordering the column display order that I could
find.

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Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Ervin, Glenn
 

I have used registry cleaners for many years, and my computers have never experienced any ill effects that I could attribute to the registry.

I think that registry cleaners are the “whipping boy” for folks who have no solution for people’s computer problems, so they blame the registry software.

I used to use PC Tools Registry Mechanic many years ago, and it got integrated into another software package.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

I beg to differ, and strenuously, about registry cleaners.  IT professionals do not approve of their use and they're generally viewed as snake oil, or worse.

Microsoft, Malwarebytes, and BleepingComputer.com don't recommend registry cleaners.

 

See: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/373006/registry-cleaners/

--
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     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr