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Re: having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?
A big shout out to Gene, Jonathan, & Sylvie for all reinforcing the importance of knowing the difference between application program or Windows OS keyboard shortcuts and screen reader shortcuts.
When shortcuts "are your life" (and even when they aren't) it's very easy to lose track of which shortcuts are processed by what layer - screen reader, program, or OS - but knowing which it is can really make your life much easier. The CTRL+T for "open new tab" command is universal, or very nearly so [as I've not hit an exception yet], within all web browsers. A huge number of the keyboard shortcuts that any of use use are Windows OS keyboard shortcuts. Microsoft now has a great page documenting same which allows you to choose which version of Windows you wish to get them for via a dropdown box near the very top of the page: Windows Keyboard Shortcuts. While the old tried and true ones from all prior versions of Windows remain unchanged, there are a number of new ones, mostly using WinKey plus something, but a few others as well, that are new to Windows 10. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1709, Build 16299 (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature) The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. ~ Niels Bohr
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Re: having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?
Dan Thompson
Thanks for your help. I actually haven’t used them before yesterday. I do feel a little crazy for not ever using thes commands. But now I will. God bless
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:42 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?
My previous message had one or two typographical errors and one or two errors of words that should have been removed. I've made the corrections and here is the corrected message. the content is the same, but the typing and unnecessary word errors have been removed.
It is important to distinguish between screen-reader commands and program and Windows commands. the commands you gave are program commands, specifically, browser commands. therefore, they can be used with NVDA.
This isn't always true but in general, commands that perform functions that don't require a screen-reader to provide information or do something extra are program or Windows commands. the browser commands you cited are program commands. any user, sighted or blind would use them. Read title bar is a screen-reader command. A sighted person can just look at the title bar, a blind person can't. So the command does something specific that a blind person needs done.
There are command conflicts at times between screen-readers and programs or Windows, but they aren't common and that's what the screen-reader's bypass command is for. Any screen-reader that has any sizable number of such conflicts is improperly designed.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Thompson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:58 AM Subject: [nvda] having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?
Hi All, What is the command for opening multiple webpages in NVDA. I know in JAWS, if you press control plus T an edit field for entering another URL comes up. Then once arriving at a second or third webpage, movement between them is done by pressing control plus tab. How is this done in NVDA? Thanks very much for any guidance.
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Re: having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?
Dan Thompson
Ah, Thanks very much. I truly appreciate your help.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:13 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?
None of the commands you Note of the keystrokes you mention in your message are JAWS commands, they are all Windows or Firefox keystrokes and will therefore work as well in any screen reader.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Thompson
Hi All, What is the command for opening multiple webpages in NVDA. I know in JAWS, if you press control plus T an edit field for entering another URL comes up. Then once arriving at a second or third webpage, movement between them is done by pressing control plus tab. How is this done in NVDA? Thanks very much for any guidance.
Subscribe to the "Hotspot with God" Devotion by sending an email to With subscribe in the subject line.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 36 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. John 1:16 ESV
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Re: having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?
Gene
My previous message had one or two typographical
errors and one or two errors of words that should have been removed. I've
made the corrections and here is the corrected message. the content is the
same, but the typing and unnecessary word errors have been removed.
It is important to distinguish between
screen-reader commands and program and Windows commands. the commands you
gave are program commands, specifically, browser commands. therefore, they
can be used with NVDA.
This isn't always true but in general, commands
that perform functions that don't require a screen-reader to provide information
or do something extra are program or Windows commands. the browser
commands you cited are program commands. any user, sighted or blind would
use them. Read title bar is a screen-reader command. A sighted
person can just look at the title bar, a blind person can't. So the
command does something specific that a blind person needs done.
There are command conflicts at times between
screen-readers and programs or Windows, but they
aren't common and that's what the screen-reader's bypass command is
for. Any screen-reader that has any sizable number of such conflicts is
improperly designed.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Thompson
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] having multiple webpages opened when using
NVDA? Hi All, What is the command for opening multiple webpages in NVDA. I know in JAWS, if you press control plus T an edit field for entering another URL comes up. Then once arriving at a second or third webpage, movement between them is done by pressing control plus tab. How is this done in NVDA? Thanks very much for any guidance.
Subscribe to the "Hotspot with God" Devotion by sending an email to With subscribe in the subject line.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 36 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. John 1:16 ESV
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Re: having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?
Gene
It is important to distinguish between
screen-reader commands and program and Windows commands. the commands you
gave are program commands, specifically, browser commands. therefore, they
can be used with NVDA.
This isn't always true but in general, commands
that perform functions thaqt don't require a screen-reader to provide
information or do something extra are program or Windows commands. the
browser commands are you cited are program commands. any user, sighted or
blind would use them. Read title bar is a screen-reader command. A
sighted person can just look at the title bar, a blind person can't. So
the command does something specific that a blind person needs done.
There are command conflicts at times between
screen-readers and programs or Windows, but they
aren't common and that's what the screen-reader's bypass command is
for. Any screen-reader that has any sizable number of such conflicts is
improperly designed.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Thompson
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] having multiple webpages opened when using
NVDA? Hi All, What is the command for opening multiple webpages in NVDA. I know in JAWS, if you press control plus T an edit field for entering another URL comes up. Then once arriving at a second or third webpage, movement between them is done by pressing control plus tab. How is this done in NVDA? Thanks very much for any guidance.
Subscribe to the "Hotspot with God" Devotion by sending an email to With subscribe in the subject line.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 36 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. John 1:16 ESV
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Re: having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?
Jonathan COHN
None of the commands you Note of the keystrokes you mention in your message are JAWS commands, they are all Windows or Firefox keystrokes and will therefore work as well in any screen reader.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Dan Thompson
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:59 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?
Hi All, What is the command for opening multiple webpages in NVDA. I know in JAWS, if you press control plus T an edit field for entering another URL comes up. Then once arriving at a second or third webpage, movement between them is done by pressing control plus tab. How is this done in NVDA? Thanks very much for any guidance.
Subscribe to the "Hotspot with God" Devotion by sending an email to With subscribe in the subject line.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 36 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. John 1:16 ESV
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Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)
prem.translator@...
Hello again Quentin,
There is the other problem. In some part of the document with table, I can go only to the next annotation, but unable to go back to the previous one. As far as I try, the problem happen in column three of both roll two and three. I'm not sure whether there will be the problem like this in other part or not.
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Re: having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?
Sylvie Duchateau
Hello Dan,
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With NVDA, it is exactly the same as with Jaws. The process you describe is for your browser and not for a screen reader. Best Sylvie
Le 19/04/2018 à 15:58, Dan Thompson a écrit :
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having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?
Dan Thompson
Hi All, What is the command for opening multiple webpages in NVDA. I know in JAWS, if you press control plus T an edit field for entering another URL comes up. Then once arriving at a second or third webpage, movement between them is done by pressing control plus tab. How is this done in NVDA? Thanks very much for any guidance.
Subscribe to the "Hotspot with God" Devotion by sending an email to With subscribe in the subject line.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 36 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. John 1:16 ESV
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Re: Brailliant display on startup
Karl Smith
Thank you for this info. I wasn’t aware of this feature as I’m not an everyday NVDA user. Unfortunately this only works with the speech settings but not the Braille settings.
Karl
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 1:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Brailliant display on startup
Hi I don’t use Braille, so I may be talking nonsense here. Regarding braille not being available on log-in screen, presumably you have braille settings on the NVDA profile associated with your windows user account but have you used the feature in the NVDA General setting dialog where you can copy your profile for use on log-in screens?
Cheers Chris From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Cross
If you get the braille extender addon, things seem to get better in reloading it if it goes off, and you can set a hotkey to load whichever one you want, plus its got all sorts of other cool features.
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Karl Smith <karl@...> wrote: I have just installed a Brailliant 40 on a Del laptop with NVDA. I have noticed a couple of issues and wonder if anyone has any answers.
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Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome
Dan Beaver
Hi,
I did try refreshing and it still didn't work. Browse mode switching also was a no go.
I spoke to the person who sent me the link to the doc and he says it was actually created several years ago. He is going to create a new doc with the same info in it to see if that will help. It is possible that it was created without the full accessibility capabilities.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
Dan Beaver
On 4/18/2018 4:25 PM, Sylvie Duchateau
wrote:
Hello Dan,
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Re: Brailliant display on startup
Jason White
Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Regarding braille not being available on log-in screen, presumably you have I recently encountered the same issue, and activating the option to which you refer above fixed it. After copying the profile, the braille display became available at password prompts, for example. This was using a VFO/Freedom Scientific Focus display in my work environment, but the type of braille display probably doesn't matter.
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Re: Say All and NVDA
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I found that a different synth was the answer to this sort of thing. I'm not sure but I think also something that is looked at for a profile is sometimes also true at other times, making profiles for speech a a bit hit and miss at times. I can say no more than that, but I had this just with a basic text reader so I doubt its just kindle.
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From: "Lanie Molinar" <laniemolinar91@gmail.com> To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:51 AM Subject: [nvda] Say All and NVDA HI, everyone. I have a couple questions and was wondering if anyone could help. I have the latest Next snapshot of NVDA and Windows 10 Insider build 17134, but what I'm asking about has been an issue for a long time. I often read books on my laptop with Kindle for PC, especially if I can't find an audio version somewhere Else. I use eSpeak NG and have it set really fast for most things, but when I'm reading, I like to slow it down. A lot of times, I've tried to automatically do this by creating a configuration profile for NVDA's say all feature that slows the speech rate down when I press the say all command. I've pretty much stopped doing this, though, because using that profile somehow seems to change the speech rate for my normal configuration, which is really annoying. I believe I had the same issue when I created a configuration profile that slowed speech when I used the Kindle app. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a way to fix or get around it? Would changing the synthesizer for that particular profile help? I'm not sure what synthesizer would be free or cheap and good for reading, but I would be willing to try different ones out if that would fix this problem. Thanks.
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Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I think I understood it that a picture needs to be sent knowing its got text before it gets ocred by google, but its not very clear from their info. I gave up on google docs since it seems very powerful but actually getting ones head around its interface seems alien to my brain!
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From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome Hi! I use it with Chrome all the time. Make sure that you have NVDA in focus mode. You should be able to use all of the navigation commands like arrows, page up and down and so on to read the document. Any type of document can be opened as a Google doc. Once a file opens in Google Docs, it is automatically changed into a Google doc. There is no conversion you need to perform on your own, Google does the conversion by itself. So, a PDF will open as a Google doc, if it is in the Google Docs Window! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dan Beaver Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome HI, I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it. I can only hear the first line which says "About:". Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome? Thanks. Dan Beaver
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Re: Say All and NVDA
Gene
I haven't worked with profiles to any extent and
this may not be as good a solution as others will propose. You could make
a profile not just regarding say all. You could make a profile for slowing
speech when the Kindle application is loaded and leave all settings the same but
have speech slowed to the rate you want.
Gene
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From: Lanie Molinar
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 4:51 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Say All and NVDA could help. I have the latest Next snapshot of NVDA and Windows 10 Insider build 17134, but what I'm asking about has been an issue for a long time. I often read books on my laptop with Kindle for PC, especially if I can't find an audio version somewhere Else. I use eSpeak NG and have it set really fast for most things, but when I'm reading, I like to slow it down. A lot of times, I've tried to automatically do this by creating a configuration profile for NVDA's say all feature that slows the speech rate down when I press the say all command. I've pretty much stopped doing this, though, because using that profile somehow seems to change the speech rate for my normal configuration, which is really annoying. I believe I had the same issue when I created a configuration profile that slowed speech when I used the Kindle app. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a way to fix or get around it? Would changing the synthesizer for that particular profile help? I'm not sure what synthesizer would be free or cheap and good for reading, but I would be willing to try different ones out if that would fix this problem. Thanks.
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Say All and NVDA
HI, everyone. I have a couple questions and was wondering if anyone could help. I have the latest Next snapshot of NVDA and Windows 10 Insider build 17134, but what I'm asking about has been an issue for a long time. I often read books on my laptop with Kindle for PC, especially if I can't find an audio version somewhere Else. I use eSpeak NG and have it set really fast for most things, but when I'm reading, I like to slow it down. A lot of times, I've tried to automatically do this by creating a configuration profile for NVDA's say all feature that slows the speech rate down when I press the say all command. I've pretty much stopped doing this, though, because using that profile somehow seems to change the speech rate for my normal configuration, which is really annoying. I believe I had the same issue when I created a configuration profile that slowed speech when I used the Kindle app. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a way to fix or get around it? Would changing the synthesizer for that particular profile help? I'm not sure what synthesizer would be free or cheap and good for reading, but I would be willing to try different ones out if that would fix this problem. Thanks.
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Re: Brailliant display on startup
Chris Mullins
Hi I don’t use Braille, so I may be talking nonsense here. Regarding braille not being available on log-in screen, presumably you have braille settings on the NVDA profile associated with your windows user account but have you used the feature in the NVDA General setting dialog where you can copy your profile for use on log-in screens?
Cheers Chris
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Cross
Sent: 19 April 2018 04:53 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Brailliant display on startup
If you get the braille extender addon, things seem to get better in reloading it if it goes off, and you can set a hotkey to load whichever one you want, plus its got all sorts of other cool features.
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Karl Smith <karl@...> wrote: I have just installed a Brailliant 40 on a Del laptop with NVDA. I have noticed a couple of issues and wonder if anyone has any answers.
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Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)
prem.translator@...
Hello Quentin,
Thank you for your reply. Anyway, I'd like to ask you something, it's a little bit off-topic. Do you have plan to launch NVDA manual for any other programs besides Word and Excel in the future e.g. PowerPoint.
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Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)
Quentin Christensen
It's on our list of things to do. We have an open issue for it on GitHub, which came about because of a very similar issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6297 Kind regards Quentin.
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:55 PM, <prem.translator@...> wrote:
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Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)
prem.translator@...
Thank you Quentin for your help,
Yes, there are a lot of changes in the document, because it is a translation table. Is there any possibility to fix the time out in the future?
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