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Re: having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?

Dan Thompson
 

Ah, Thanks very much.  I truly appreciate your help.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?

 

None of the commands you Note of the keystrokes you mention in your message are JAWS commands, they are all Windows or Firefox keystrokes and will therefore work as well in any screen reader.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Thompson
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?

 

Hi All,

What is the command for opening multiple webpages in NVDA.  I know in JAWS, if you press control plus T an edit field for entering another URL comes up.  Then once arriving at a second or third webpage, movement between them is done by pressing control plus tab.  How is this done in NVDA? Thanks very much for any guidance.

 

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Re: having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?

Gene
 

My previous message had one or two typographical errors and one or two errors of words that should have been removed.  I've made the corrections and here is the corrected message.  the content is the same, but the typing and unnecessary word errors have been removed.
 
It is important to distinguish between screen-reader commands and program and Windows commands.  the commands you gave are program commands, specifically, browser commands.  therefore, they can be used with NVDA.
 
This isn't always true but in general, commands that perform functions that don't require a screen-reader to provide information or do something extra are program or Windows commands.  the browser commands you cited are program commands.  any user, sighted or blind would use them.  Read title bar is a screen-reader command.  A sighted person can just look at the title bar, a blind person can't.  So the command does something specific that a blind person needs done.
 
There are command conflicts at times between screen-readers and programs or Windows, but they aren't common and that's what the screen-reader's bypass command is for.  Any screen-reader that has any sizable number of such conflicts is improperly designed.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?

Hi All,

What is the command for opening multiple webpages in NVDA.  I know in JAWS, if you press control plus T an edit field for entering another URL comes up.  Then once arriving at a second or third webpage, movement between them is done by pressing control plus tab.  How is this done in NVDA? Thanks very much for any guidance.

 

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Re: having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?

Gene
 

It is important to distinguish between screen-reader commands and program and Windows commands.  the commands you gave are program commands, specifically, browser commands.  therefore, they can be used with NVDA.
 
This isn't always true but in general, commands that perform functions thaqt don't require a screen-reader to provide information or do something extra are program or Windows commands.  the browser commands are you cited are program commands.  any user, sighted or blind would use them.  Read title bar is a screen-reader command.  A sighted person can just look at the title bar, a blind person can't.  So the command does something specific that a blind person needs done.
 
There are command conflicts at times between screen-readers and programs or Windows, but they aren't common and that's what the screen-reader's bypass command is for.  Any screen-reader that has any sizable number of such conflicts is improperly designed.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?

Hi All,

What is the command for opening multiple webpages in NVDA.  I know in JAWS, if you press control plus T an edit field for entering another URL comes up.  Then once arriving at a second or third webpage, movement between them is done by pressing control plus tab.  How is this done in NVDA? Thanks very much for any guidance.

 

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Re: having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?

Jonathan COHN
 

None of the commands you Note of the keystrokes you mention in your message are JAWS commands, they are all Windows or Firefox keystrokes and will therefore work as well in any screen reader.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Thompson
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?

 

Hi All,

What is the command for opening multiple webpages in NVDA.  I know in JAWS, if you press control plus T an edit field for entering another URL comes up.  Then once arriving at a second or third webpage, movement between them is done by pressing control plus tab.  How is this done in NVDA? Thanks very much for any guidance.

 

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Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)

prem.translator@...
 

Hello again Quentin,
There is the other problem.
In some part of the document with table, I can go only to the next annotation, but unable to go back to the previous one. As far as I try, the problem happen in column three of both roll two and three. I'm not sure whether there will be the problem like this in other part or not.

Re: having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Dan,
With NVDA, it is exactly the same as with Jaws.
The process you describe is for your browser and not for a screen reader.
Best
Sylvie

Le 19/04/2018 à 15:58, Dan Thompson a écrit :

Hi All,

What is the command for opening multiple webpages in NVDA.  I know in JAWS, if you press control plus T an edit field for entering another URL comes up.  Then once arriving at a second or third webpage, movement between them is done by pressing control plus tab.  How is this done in NVDA? Thanks very much for any guidance.

 

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having multiple webpages opened when using NVDA?

Dan Thompson
 

Hi All,

What is the command for opening multiple webpages in NVDA.  I know in JAWS, if you press control plus T an edit field for entering another URL comes up.  Then once arriving at a second or third webpage, movement between them is done by pressing control plus tab.  How is this done in NVDA? Thanks very much for any guidance.

 

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Re: Brailliant display on startup

Karl Smith
 

Thank you for this info. I wasn’t aware of this feature as I’m not an everyday NVDA user. Unfortunately this only works with the speech settings but not the Braille settings.

 

Karl

 

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 1:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brailliant display on startup

 

Hi

I don’t use Braille, so I may be talking nonsense here.  Regarding braille not being available on log-in screen, presumably you have braille settings on the NVDA profile associated with your windows user account but have you used the feature in the NVDA General setting dialog where you can copy your profile for use on log-in screens?  

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Cross
Sent: 19 April 2018 04:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brailliant display on startup

 

If you get the braille extender addon, things seem to get better in reloading it if it goes off, and you can set a hotkey to load whichever one you want, plus its got all sorts of other cool features.

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Karl Smith <karl@...> wrote:

I have just installed a Brailliant 40 on a Del laptop with NVDA. I have noticed a couple of issues and wonder if anyone has any answers.

1. The Braille doesn't come up during logon but only after NVDA is fully loaded. Is there any way to change this?
2. The end user won't have their display immediately so will have to plug it in when it arrives. I find that even after it is plugged in you have to restart NVDA to have Braille. Is this normal, as the screen reader who shall not be named pops up Braille when the display is plugged in.

Thanks.

Karl



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Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


I did try refreshing and it still didn't work.  Browse mode switching also was a no go.


I spoke to the person who sent me the link to the doc and he says it was actually created several years ago.  He is going to create a new doc with the same info in it to see if that will help.  It is possible that it was created without the full accessibility capabilities.


Thanks for all the suggestions.


Dan Beaver


On 4/18/2018 4:25 PM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello Dan,
Have you tried refreshing the page with f5?
When I can't read anything, I go the adress bar and then I return to the document.
Have you also tried turning browse mode on and off with nvda+space bar?
I have no other ideas for the moment.
Best
Sylvie
Le 18/04/2018 à 18:47, Dan Beaver a écrit :

Thank you for the info.


I tried using the ctrl+alt+z stroke and it said screen reader support enabled.  However, it still just says "about:".  My wife looked at the screen and it has other info on it but NVDA can't read it.


Any other ideas?  Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to make it accessible?


Dan Beaver


On 4/18/2018 12:01 PM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello Dan,

Google docs works fine with Chrome and NVDA.

You have to enable screen reader support in pressing ctrl+alt+Z.

Sylvie

Le 18/04/2018 à 17:35, Dan Beaver a écrit :

HI,


I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it.  I can only hear the first line which says "About:".


Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver





Re: Brailliant display on startup

Jason White
 

Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
Regarding braille not being available on log-in screen, presumably you have
braille settings on the NVDA profile associated with your windows user
account but have you used the feature in the NVDA General setting dialog
where you can copy your profile for use on log-in screens?

I recently encountered the same issue, and activating the option to which you
refer above fixed it. After copying the profile, the braille display became
available at password prompts, for example.

This was using a VFO/Freedom Scientific Focus display in my work environment,
but the type of braille display probably doesn't matter.

Re: Say All and NVDA

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I found that a different synth was the answer to this sort of thing. I'm not sure but I think also something that is looked at for a profile is sometimes also true at other times, making profiles for speech a a bit hit and miss at times. I can say no more than that, but I had this just with a basic text reader so I doubt its just kindle.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lanie Molinar" <@LivingForGod1991>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] Say All and NVDA


HI, everyone. I have a couple questions and was wondering if anyone could help. I have the latest Next snapshot of NVDA and Windows 10 Insider build 17134, but what I'm asking about has been an issue for a long time. I often read books on my laptop with Kindle for PC, especially if I can't find an audio version somewhere Else. I use eSpeak NG and have it set really fast for most things, but when I'm reading, I like to slow it down. A lot of times, I've tried to automatically do this by creating a configuration profile for NVDA's say all feature that slows the speech rate down when I press the say all command. I've pretty much stopped doing this, though, because using that profile somehow seems to change the speech rate for my normal configuration, which is really annoying. I believe I had the same issue when I created a configuration profile that slowed speech when I used the Kindle app. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a way to fix or get around it? Would changing the synthesizer for that particular profile help? I'm not sure what synthesizer would be free or cheap and good for reading, but I would be willing to try different ones out if that would fix this problem. Thanks.


Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

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I think I understood it that a picture needs to be sent knowing its got text before it gets ocred by google, but its not very clear from their info. I gave up on google docs since it seems very powerful but actually getting ones head around its interface seems alien to my brain!
Brian

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From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome


Hi!
I use it with Chrome all the time.
Make sure that you have NVDA in focus mode. You should be able to use all of the navigation commands like arrows, page up and down and so on to read the document. Any type of document can be opened as a Google doc. Once a file opens in Google Docs, it is automatically changed into a Google doc. There is no conversion you need to perform on your own, Google does the conversion by itself. So, a PDF will open as a Google doc, if it is in the Google Docs Window!
David Moore
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From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

HI,

I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it. I can only hear the first line which says "About:".

Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

Re: Say All and NVDA

Gene
 

I haven't worked with profiles to any extent and this may not be as good a solution as others will propose.  You could make a profile not just regarding say all.  You could make a profile for slowing speech when the Kindle application is loaded and leave all settings the same but have speech slowed to the rate you want. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 4:51 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Say All and NVDA

HI, everyone. I have a couple questions and was wondering if anyone
could help. I have the latest Next snapshot of NVDA and Windows 10
Insider build 17134, but what I'm asking about has been an issue for a
long time. I often read books on my laptop with Kindle for PC,
especially if I can't find an audio version somewhere Else. I use eSpeak
NG and have it set really fast for most things, but when I'm reading, I
like to slow it down. A lot of times, I've tried to automatically do
this by creating a configuration profile for NVDA's say all feature that
slows the speech rate down when I press the say all command. I've pretty
much stopped doing this, though, because using that profile somehow
seems to change the speech rate for my normal configuration, which is
really annoying. I believe I had the same issue when I created a
configuration profile that slowed speech when I used the Kindle app. Has
anyone   else noticed this? Is there a way to fix or get around it?
Would changing the synthesizer for that particular profile help? I'm not
sure what synthesizer would be free or cheap and good for reading, but I
would be willing to try different ones out if that would fix this
problem. Thanks.



Say All and NVDA

 

HI, everyone. I have a couple questions and was wondering if anyone could help. I have the latest Next snapshot of NVDA and Windows 10 Insider build 17134, but what I'm asking about has been an issue for a long time. I often read books on my laptop with Kindle for PC, especially if I can't find an audio version somewhere Else. I use eSpeak NG and have it set really fast for most things, but when I'm reading, I like to slow it down. A lot of times, I've tried to automatically do this by creating a configuration profile for NVDA's say all feature that slows the speech rate down when I press the say all command. I've pretty much stopped doing this, though, because using that profile somehow seems to change the speech rate for my normal configuration, which is really annoying. I believe I had the same issue when I created a configuration profile that slowed speech when I used the Kindle app. Has anyone   else noticed this? Is there a way to fix or get around it? Would changing the synthesizer for that particular profile help? I'm not sure what synthesizer would be free or cheap and good for reading, but I would be willing to try different ones out if that would fix this problem. Thanks.

Re: Brailliant display on startup

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I don’t use Braille, so I may be talking nonsense here.  Regarding braille not being available on log-in screen, presumably you have braille settings on the NVDA profile associated with your windows user account but have you used the feature in the NVDA General setting dialog where you can copy your profile for use on log-in screens?  

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Cross
Sent: 19 April 2018 04:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brailliant display on startup

 

If you get the braille extender addon, things seem to get better in reloading it if it goes off, and you can set a hotkey to load whichever one you want, plus its got all sorts of other cool features.

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Karl Smith <karl@...> wrote:

I have just installed a Brailliant 40 on a Del laptop with NVDA. I have noticed a couple of issues and wonder if anyone has any answers.

1. The Braille doesn't come up during logon but only after NVDA is fully loaded. Is there any way to change this?
2. The end user won't have their display immediately so will have to plug it in when it arrives. I find that even after it is plugged in you have to restart NVDA to have Braille. Is this normal, as the screen reader who shall not be named pops up Braille when the display is plugged in.

Thanks.

Karl



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Axis
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Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885
Fax:     866-824-7885
E-mail: karl@...
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Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)

prem.translator@...
 

Hello Quentin,
Thank you for your reply. Anyway, I'd like to ask you something, it's a little bit off-topic.

Do you have plan to launch NVDA manual for any other programs besides Word and Excel in the future e.g. PowerPoint.

Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)

Quentin Christensen
 

It's on our list of things to do.  We have an open issue for it on GitHub, which came about because of a very similar issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6297

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:55 PM, <prem.translator@...> wrote:
Thank you Quentin for your help, 
Yes, there are a lot of changes in the document, because it is a translation table. Is there any possibility to fix the time out in the future? 




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Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)

prem.translator@...
 

Thank you Quentin for your help, 
Yes, there are a lot of changes in the document, because it is a translation table. Is there any possibility to fix the time out in the future? 

Re: Brailliant display on startup

Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
 

If you get the braille extender addon, things seem to get better in reloading it if it goes off, and you can set a hotkey to load whichever one you want, plus its got all sorts of other cool features.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Karl Smith <karl@...> wrote:
I have just installed a Brailliant 40 on a Del laptop with NVDA. I have noticed a couple of issues and wonder if anyone has any answers.

1. The Braille doesn't come up during logon but only after NVDA is fully loaded. Is there any way to change this?
2. The end user won't have their display immediately so will have to plug it in when it arrives. I find that even after it is plugged in you have to restart NVDA to have Braille. Is this normal, as the screen reader who shall not be named pops up Braille when the display is plugged in.

Thanks.

Karl



__________

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Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885
Fax:     866-824-7885
E-mail: karl@...
Alternate E-mail: karl.axistech@...

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

My blog http://www.samobile.net/users/oksaxis/blog/






Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)

Quentin Christensen
 

Good morning,

It looks like there are a lot of changes in the document.  Basically what happens is when NVDA is added all the annotations to the tree view in the element list (NVDA+f7 dialog), if it takes too long, it times out and doesn't end up adding anything.  It looks like that is what is happening here.

You can work around this by, still in Browse mode, moving to each annotation with "a" (shift+a moves back to the previous annotation).  You can then bring up the context menu (applications key) to accept or reject each.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:08 AM, <prem.translator@...> wrote:
I’m doing a research, after I sent a draft to my advisor, my advisor send me back the original with the following style of editor revision: insertion, Deletion, property formatted, and comment. I use Word 2010 with the latest version of NVDA, and here is my problem.

- I have two files with the same file format (.docx).
- For the two files, the first one, there is no table. but the other one contains only a table with about 28 rolls and 4 columns in each roll, and everything is in the table.
- Both have the same style of editor revision (insertion, deletion and comment).
- The problem is: when I open both files and list the elements using insert + F7 and choose "annotations", NVDA can list annotations for the file that doesn't have table, but not for the other one.

Below are links for both files.

First file:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=10IuAreAsiaMMjWJ7QOoRMURlCRzl7C4a

second file:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C3HRJmtNSVj_9gK8oxIk6WmbFlENcCE0

Please help me,
Thank you.




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