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Re: Ham radio programs
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I have a proper Icom radio for this, but increasingly with modern appliances, interference is an issue.There are a lot of SDRs on the web, but I've had little luck in the past trying to make them work correctly with a screenreader. What do they use, Java or what?
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From: "Igor Kaplan" <igorkaplan45@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 12:39 PM Subject: [nvda] Ham radio programs Hi Angelo, Don't mean to change the topic, however since you mentioned about ham programs would like to ask you, which ham programs you use? I am not a ham operator, however like to listen the ham radio and DX stations. Many thanks. Igor -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angelo Sonnesso Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 6:07 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS I use both NVDA and Jaws, and for the most part they both work equally well. There are some programs that work better with Jaws, and many program that work better with NVDA. QuickBooks works well with NVDA and so do many of the ham radio programs I use. Jaws has the advantage with the office suite, but for most people NVDA and office work well. Occasionally I find software that will only behave with Narrator, but Narrator is not ready for prime time. Stay Well. 73 N2DYN Angelo -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angela Delicata Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 4:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS Yes, but we can find apps which are not accesible using Jaws also: this depends more on the producer of a specific software rather than nvaccess. So, I agree on what you say , but this applies to Jaws also. Il 20/04/2018 10:06, Tea Turkovic ha scritto: It would be excellent when more companies would colaborate with NV
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
Ervin, Glenn
Jaws has been crashing a lot in Internet Explorer since Jaws 18.
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I think a lot of people don't notice it though, because Jaws seems to have also received the ability to restart after a crash. So I lose speech when loading a page for a while, and before I get to a desktop to restart it it reloads with its usual Jaws startup message. In the old days, Jaws would crash, but would not come back, we had to relaunch it. Glenn
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 7:44 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS I use JAWS extensively for its excellent braille and Microsoft Office support, but NVDA is improving in these areas. The BrailleExtender add-on is very good, for example. On my system, at least, with applications such as Microsoft Outlook, NVDA doesn't seem to crash as JAWS does. Perhaps I've simply been lucky. I've noticed some bugs in NVDA 2018.1.1, but, on the other hand, I'm aware of some JAWS bugs as well. Perhaps I should go to GitHub and report the NVDA bugs, or raise them on the list. All of the screen readers that I have used have their advantages and drawbacks. They all have bugs, too. So do operating systems and applications, where many of the accessibility issues lie. Choose whatever combinations best meet your needs. As others have suggested, having multiple screen readers available is a good situation to be in.
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Microsoft Project and Microsoft Visio with NVDA
Charles Coyle <Charles.Coyle@...>
Hi,
I’m going to need the above software in my role soon (which elements of the software I’m required to use are as yet unclear).
Do you happen to know how accessible both Microsoft Project and Visio are with NVDA?
Also, are there any useful hints and tips or websites I could access to ensure I’m using the software as effectively as possible?
Regards,
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Re: nvda and Edge
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I find that for example any ad blocker now cripples the useful file hippo update check utility. This is because it seems to be put on screen as if it was an advert from another server. I've tried to allow it but that failed. The only way to get this is to turn off your ad blocker in firefox it seems.
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It never used to be this way, so either the ad blockers are too smart for their own good or file hippo has hobbled the feature if you do not allow ads, but allowing ads on their platform slows it down and makes it very hard to download what you want as apposed to try me come on adverts. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and Edge Whatever is blocking things, the feature should be able to be turned off and perhaps what it blocks, modified. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Mallard Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 3:13 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and Edge Thanks David for all the tips on Edge. I use Firefox a lot; I don't seem to experience the issues many others are reporting here. It's still very fast on my machine, but it's become a lot more cumbersome, and tends to block too much stuff totally unrequested. I mostly use Chrome, and definitely Edge for pdf and epub files, because it retains links, which Qread doesn't do. Ciao, Ollie Il 20/04/2018 01:50, David Moore ha scritto:
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Re: Editing Excel Cells
Ralf Kefferpuetz
I can confirm this behavior. I only hear “unknown” when pressing F2 in Excel 2016. To focus on the editfield I have to to a nvda-numpad4, a nvda-numpad-divide and finally numpad-divide (in other words I click on it with the left mouse button. Seems NVDA is focussing the wrong control.
Cheers, Ralf
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Hi Louis,
Pressing F2 to edit cell contents in Excel is a function of Excel itself, rather than the screen reader. So, yes you can do this with NVDA. Interesting that you say this functionality no longer works with Jaws, as we have started seeing problems with it in NVDA, so I wonder if it is not something either screen reader has done, but perhaps something Microsoft has done that has broken how we get the information about cells being edited. For a sighted user, and indeed using NVDA, the functionality appears to work just the same as it ever has, it's just that NVDA reports "unknown" when you press F2, and then does not read the contents of the cell.
We have at least one issue open for this: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8146
Regards
On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 8:32 AM, Louis Maher <ljmaher03@...> wrote:
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Re: nvda and Edge
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Does Firefox have a similar facility?
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I still find Chrome awkward to remember what \I'm doing in. I cannot use Edge as I'm on windows 7 and do not want to rock this particular boat. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and Edge That is great! Also, Edge has a built in reading feature, where all the clutter is gone from the page, leaving just the article. It works like Just read in Chrome. To activate it, just press CTRL+Shift+R. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: bob jutzi Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:01 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and Edge Thanks. Am checking into Edge as it's rather interesting. I love the Continue on PC feature. On 4/19/2018 7:50 PM, David Moore wrote: Hi!
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
Gene
Rather than explain it, which involves not just
explaining how to route and click the simulated mouse, you have to know the3
NVDA review keys, 2which use the numpad. You first use the review keys,
then when the review position is where you want the mouse you route the mouse to
that position and click it. the various review modes and the review keys
are explained in a tutorial which is very well thought of. You can
download either the entire tutorial or only the sections you want
here:
You will see links to all the
sections and a link at the end to a zip version of the entire
tutorial.
Gene
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hesitate to another screen reader is I don't what would replace the WE mouse keys. What did you do with NVDA to replace that function? At 03:38 PM 4/19/2018, Don H, wrote: >I started using NVDA after the demise of Window Eyes. I also got >the free Jaws when it was offered. I found NVDA much easier to use >over Jaws and use NVDA as my prime screen reader. Just hope that >there is no way that VFO can swallow up NVDA as it did Window Eyes. > > > John
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Re: nvda and Edge
Gene
Also, Firefox has the equivalent of reader
mode. As I recall, it's in the view menu.
Gene
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over to it. On 4/20/2018 3:40 AM, David Moore wrote: > Also, the key command: > > ALT+X opens the settings and more menu, found on the top where the > address bar is. > > Arrow up to settings, and enter, and you can customize all settings very > easily. > > You can do a lot with ALT+X. > > Have a great one! > > David Moore > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > *From: *bob jutzi <mailto:jutzi1@...> > *Sent: *Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:03 PM > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject: *Re: [nvda] nvda and Edge > > Alt-D drops you in the address bar. From here you can also tab or > > shift-tab to find other menu options. > > On 4/19/2018 8:17 PM, David Mehler wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > For users of edge how do you use it? I am wanting to try it but have > > > no idea how to proceed there's no menu I don't see an interface. I'm > > > also wondering the advantages of edge vs. ie11/firefox/chrome? > > > > > > I am enjoying this thread. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Dave. > > > > > > > > > On 4/19/18, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote: > > >> That is great! > > >> Also, Edge has a built in reading feature, where all the clutter is gone > > >> from the page, leaving just the article. It works like Just read in > Chrome. > > >> To activate it, just press CTRL+Shift+R. > > >> David Moore > > >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > >> > > >> From: bob jutzi > > >> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:01 PM > > >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > > >> Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and Edge > > >> > > >> Thanks. Am checking into Edge as it's rather interesting. I love the > > >> Continue on PC feature. > > >> > > >> On 4/19/2018 7:50 PM, David Moore wrote: > > >>> Hi! > > >>> > > >>> NVDA is faster in Edge, you can open PDFs and Epub books, and you can > > >>> save or back your favorites as an html file. > > >>> > > >>> Also, Edge loads pages for me, much faster than the later versions of > > >>> firefox. > > >>> > > >>> Have a great one, by the way, I use Chrome, most of the time, it works > > >>> much better, in my opinion, than the latest versions of firefox. > > >>> > > >>> David Moore > > >>> > > >>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > > >>> Windows 10 > > >>> > > >>> *From: *bob jutzi <mailto:jutzi1@...> > > >>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 19, 2018 6:26 PM > > >>> *To: *nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io> > > >>> *Subject: *[nvda] nvda and Edge > > >>> > > >>> I am running the latest NVDA master along with Fall Creaters update of > > >>> > > >>> Win10 and finally decided to check out Edge. I do have a few > questions. > > >>> > > >>> For those of us who are blind, what advantages does Edge have over > > >>> Firefox? > > >>> > > >>> Also, there doesn't seem to be a way to backup Favorites unless this is > > >>> > > >>> managed through Syncing. I am already logged into my Microsoft > account. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: nvda and Edge
Gene
Whatever is blocking things, the feature should be
able to be turned off and perhaps what it blocks, modified.
Gene
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I use Firefox a lot; I don't seem to experience the issues many others are reporting here. It's still very fast on my machine, but it's become a lot more cumbersome, and tends to block too much stuff totally unrequested. I mostly use Chrome, and definitely Edge for pdf and epub files, because it retains links, which Qread doesn't do. Ciao, Ollie Il 20/04/2018 01:50, David Moore ha scritto: > > Hi! > > NVDA is faster in Edge, you can open PDFs and Epub books, and you can > save or back your favorites as an html file. > > Also, Edge loads pages for me, much faster than the later versions of > firefox. > > Have a great one, by the way, I use Chrome, most of the time, it works > much better, in my opinion, than the latest versions of firefox. > > David Moore > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > *From: *bob jutzi <mailto:jutzi1@...> > *Sent: *Thursday, April 19, 2018 6:26 PM > *To: *nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io> > *Subject: *[nvda] nvda and Edge > > I am running the latest NVDA master along with Fall Creaters update of > > Win10 and finally decided to check out Edge. I do have a few questions. > > For those of us who are blind, what advantages does Edge have over > Firefox? > > Also, there doesn't seem to be a way to backup Favorites unless this is > > managed through Syncing. I am already logged into my Microsoft account. > >
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Re: Say All and NVDA
I tried it again without changing the synthesizer and had the
same problem I mentioned. I also tried changing the synthesizer,
and that seems to work better. I'm not getting the problem with
say all changing the normal configuration rate now, so I guess
I'll keep using a different one for say all for now. I'm using
Windows 10 OneCore with Mark as the voice for say all, and it
seems to work well.
On 4/19/2018 11:40 PM, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
My friend tried to read an on line menu he first tried jaws and he could not read it but when he tried nvda he was able to read it. His primary screen reader is jaws but for certain things like this he will use nvda. I only have nvda as my only screen reader. There is most definatly alot of profe that having more than one screen reader can be very benificial to us. There is not one screen reader that will read everything that would be nice but that just a dream. Brian Sackrider
On 4/19/2018 7:25 PM, Ashley Wayne
wrote:
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Re: Accessible Screen Recording Software
abdul muhamin
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From: Antony Stone
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:43 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Screen Recording Software
Which software are you talking about?
Your email recommends using something, but does not say what.
Where can we find out what it is and more information about it?
Antony.
On Monday 16 April 2018 at 23:33:35, abdul muhamin wrote:
> Hi, I strongly suggest you to use. > this software > it may assist you better > Regards, Chief content officer at BlindHelp.net > > From: Bhavya shah > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:27 AM > To: nvda; main; blindtech; keyboardusers > Subject: [nvda] Accessible Screen Recording Software > > Dear all, > For a certain purpose, I am in need of an accessible screen capturing > and recording software for my Windows 8.1 powered laptop. According to > my preliminary research, some recommended accessible programs for this > purpose include Camtasia, Open Broadcasting Software and WebInAria. I > have perfunctorily read about or tried each of these software and > following is a summary of my present knowledge: > Camtasia: I have installed the huge software’s free trial for now. I > seem unable to find any self-explanatorily worded option to start a > screen recording, am just Tabbing around the interface through the > different options and some unlabelled toggle buttons, and am uncertain > as to how I should proceed from this point. > Open Broadcasting Software: I have seen a blind individual > recommending OBS Classic, which fork of this software is now > deprecated according to the developer’s website. Should I still try > out OBS Classic, or is the newer OBS studio accessible? > WebInAria: This software seems to have no dedicated website of its > own, the number and quality of ratings it has received on software > hosting sites are low, and it seems like this program hasn’t been > updated in several years now. > I would deeply appreciate it if you could either shed some light on > the above-mentioned software, or alternatively suggest other > accessible screen capturing and recording software that are usable > with a screen reader, especially NVDA. > Thanks.
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Re: Word Processor?
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openoffice and one of its branch libreoffice, are opensource office suite program. they are accessible, but not complete as microsoft word. for example: brows mode, reading and editing endnotes, footnotes, comment dont work and you cant use sayAll in these programs.
On 4/20/18, Lisa P Geibel <lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, --
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
Jason White
On Apr 20, 2018, at 04:57, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com> wrote:Interestingly, I edited a Microsoft Word file with NVDA earlier this week and tested it with Microsoft Outlook. I didn’t experience the sluggishness that you report. So, it’s true that some people are not encountering this problem. I’m using NVDA 2018.1.1 and an up to date Office 365 version (Monthly Channel).
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Word Processor?
Lisa P Geibel
Hi,
Thanks to everyone for the help about setting this new computer up. Because of some mishaps, we weren't able to try the install on our own, but it got done. Now, I have a question. I used to have and use Microsoft Word. Loved it, but when I tried to install it, I was told my keys had already been used, so I'm going to try Open Office. I downloaded it and am now lost. What is the section that is similar to Word for Open Office or did I download the wrong thing? Probably, knowing me. LOL I know this topic was covered fairly recently and I'm sorry, but those messages are gone and I had saved them or thought I did in case I had to do this. Please help and sorry for not being better organized. Thanks.
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Ham radio programs
Igor Kaplan
Hi Angelo,
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Don't mean to change the topic, however since you mentioned about ham programs would like to ask you, which ham programs you use? I am not a ham operator, however like to listen the ham radio and DX stations. Many thanks. Igor
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angelo Sonnesso Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 6:07 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS I use both NVDA and Jaws, and for the most part they both work equally well. There are some programs that work better with Jaws, and many program that work better with NVDA. QuickBooks works well with NVDA and so do many of the ham radio programs I use. Jaws has the advantage with the office suite, but for most people NVDA and office work well. Occasionally I find software that will only behave with Narrator, but Narrator is not ready for prime time. Stay Well. 73 N2DYN Angelo -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angela Delicata Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 4:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS Yes, but we can find apps which are not accesible using Jaws also: this depends more on the producer of a specific software rather than nvaccess. So, I agree on what you say , but this applies to Jaws also. Il 20/04/2018 10:06, Tea Turkovic ha scritto: It would be excellent when more companies would colaborate with NV
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
john s
Don, I'm still using WE with win 7. The thing which makes me hesitate to another screen reader is I don't what would replace the WE mouse keys. What did you do with NVDA to replace that function?
At 03:38 PM 4/19/2018, Don H, wrote: I started using NVDA after the demise of Window Eyes. I also got the free Jaws when it was offered. I found NVDA much easier to use over Jaws and use NVDA as my prime screen reader. Just hope that there is no way that VFO can swallow up NVDA as it did Window Eyes.John
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
Ron Canazzi
Hi Group,
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Since many people like a pop3/IMAP local mail client and since many of same really miss Outlook Express, many use Thunderbird. I can say categorically that for whatever reason, NVDA runs rings around JAWS in Thunderbird. This is my personal experience as to why I use exclusively NVDA and almost never use JAWS any more.
On 4/19/2018 3:30 PM, Angela Delicata wrote:
Hi, --
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
I use both NVDA and Jaws, and for the most part they both work equally well.
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There are some programs that work better with Jaws, and many program that work better with NVDA. QuickBooks works well with NVDA and so do many of the ham radio programs I use. Jaws has the advantage with the office suite, but for most people NVDA and office work well. Occasionally I find software that will only behave with Narrator, but Narrator is not ready for prime time. Stay Well. 73 N2DYN Angelo
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angela Delicata Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 4:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS Yes, but we can find apps which are not accesible using Jaws also: this depends more on the producer of a specific software rather than nvaccess. So, I agree on what you say , but this applies to Jaws also. Il 20/04/2018 10:06, Tea Turković ha scritto: It would be excellent when more companies would colaborate with NV
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Re: nvda and Edge
bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
Sounds good. I was able to enter Reader Mode by ALlt-D then tabbing over to it.
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On 4/20/2018 3:40 AM, David Moore wrote:
Also, the key command:
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