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Re: nvda and Edge
Gene
Also, Firefox has the equivalent of reader
mode. As I recall, it's in the view menu.
Gene
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over to it. On 4/20/2018 3:40 AM, David Moore wrote: > Also, the key command: > > ALT+X opens the settings and more menu, found on the top where the > address bar is. > > Arrow up to settings, and enter, and you can customize all settings very > easily. > > You can do a lot with ALT+X. > > Have a great one! > > David Moore > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > *From: *bob jutzi <mailto:jutzi1@...> > *Sent: *Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:03 PM > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject: *Re: [nvda] nvda and Edge > > Alt-D drops you in the address bar. From here you can also tab or > > shift-tab to find other menu options. > > On 4/19/2018 8:17 PM, David Mehler wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > For users of edge how do you use it? I am wanting to try it but have > > > no idea how to proceed there's no menu I don't see an interface. I'm > > > also wondering the advantages of edge vs. ie11/firefox/chrome? > > > > > > I am enjoying this thread. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Dave. > > > > > > > > > On 4/19/18, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote: > > >> That is great! > > >> Also, Edge has a built in reading feature, where all the clutter is gone > > >> from the page, leaving just the article. It works like Just read in > Chrome. > > >> To activate it, just press CTRL+Shift+R. > > >> David Moore > > >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > >> > > >> From: bob jutzi > > >> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:01 PM > > >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > > >> Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and Edge > > >> > > >> Thanks. Am checking into Edge as it's rather interesting. I love the > > >> Continue on PC feature. > > >> > > >> On 4/19/2018 7:50 PM, David Moore wrote: > > >>> Hi! > > >>> > > >>> NVDA is faster in Edge, you can open PDFs and Epub books, and you can > > >>> save or back your favorites as an html file. > > >>> > > >>> Also, Edge loads pages for me, much faster than the later versions of > > >>> firefox. > > >>> > > >>> Have a great one, by the way, I use Chrome, most of the time, it works > > >>> much better, in my opinion, than the latest versions of firefox. > > >>> > > >>> David Moore > > >>> > > >>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > > >>> Windows 10 > > >>> > > >>> *From: *bob jutzi <mailto:jutzi1@...> > > >>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 19, 2018 6:26 PM > > >>> *To: *nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io> > > >>> *Subject: *[nvda] nvda and Edge > > >>> > > >>> I am running the latest NVDA master along with Fall Creaters update of > > >>> > > >>> Win10 and finally decided to check out Edge. I do have a few > questions. > > >>> > > >>> For those of us who are blind, what advantages does Edge have over > > >>> Firefox? > > >>> > > >>> Also, there doesn't seem to be a way to backup Favorites unless this is > > >>> > > >>> managed through Syncing. I am already logged into my Microsoft > account. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: nvda and Edge
Gene
Whatever is blocking things, the feature should be
able to be turned off and perhaps what it blocks, modified.
Gene
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I use Firefox a lot; I don't seem to experience the issues many others are reporting here. It's still very fast on my machine, but it's become a lot more cumbersome, and tends to block too much stuff totally unrequested. I mostly use Chrome, and definitely Edge for pdf and epub files, because it retains links, which Qread doesn't do. Ciao, Ollie Il 20/04/2018 01:50, David Moore ha scritto: > > Hi! > > NVDA is faster in Edge, you can open PDFs and Epub books, and you can > save or back your favorites as an html file. > > Also, Edge loads pages for me, much faster than the later versions of > firefox. > > Have a great one, by the way, I use Chrome, most of the time, it works > much better, in my opinion, than the latest versions of firefox. > > David Moore > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > *From: *bob jutzi <mailto:jutzi1@...> > *Sent: *Thursday, April 19, 2018 6:26 PM > *To: *nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io> > *Subject: *[nvda] nvda and Edge > > I am running the latest NVDA master along with Fall Creaters update of > > Win10 and finally decided to check out Edge. I do have a few questions. > > For those of us who are blind, what advantages does Edge have over > Firefox? > > Also, there doesn't seem to be a way to backup Favorites unless this is > > managed through Syncing. I am already logged into my Microsoft account. > >
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Re: Say All and NVDA
I tried it again without changing the synthesizer and had the
same problem I mentioned. I also tried changing the synthesizer,
and that seems to work better. I'm not getting the problem with
say all changing the normal configuration rate now, so I guess
I'll keep using a different one for say all for now. I'm using
Windows 10 OneCore with Mark as the voice for say all, and it
seems to work well.
On 4/19/2018 11:40 PM, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
My friend tried to read an on line menu he first tried jaws and he could not read it but when he tried nvda he was able to read it. His primary screen reader is jaws but for certain things like this he will use nvda. I only have nvda as my only screen reader. There is most definatly alot of profe that having more than one screen reader can be very benificial to us. There is not one screen reader that will read everything that would be nice but that just a dream. Brian Sackrider
On 4/19/2018 7:25 PM, Ashley Wayne
wrote:
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Re: Accessible Screen Recording Software
abdul muhamin
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From: Antony Stone
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:43 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Screen Recording Software
Which software are you talking about?
Your email recommends using something, but does not say what.
Where can we find out what it is and more information about it?
Antony.
On Monday 16 April 2018 at 23:33:35, abdul muhamin wrote:
> Hi, I strongly suggest you to use. > this software > it may assist you better > Regards, Chief content officer at BlindHelp.net > > From: Bhavya shah > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:27 AM > To: nvda; main; blindtech; keyboardusers > Subject: [nvda] Accessible Screen Recording Software > > Dear all, > For a certain purpose, I am in need of an accessible screen capturing > and recording software for my Windows 8.1 powered laptop. According to > my preliminary research, some recommended accessible programs for this > purpose include Camtasia, Open Broadcasting Software and WebInAria. I > have perfunctorily read about or tried each of these software and > following is a summary of my present knowledge: > Camtasia: I have installed the huge software’s free trial for now. I > seem unable to find any self-explanatorily worded option to start a > screen recording, am just Tabbing around the interface through the > different options and some unlabelled toggle buttons, and am uncertain > as to how I should proceed from this point. > Open Broadcasting Software: I have seen a blind individual > recommending OBS Classic, which fork of this software is now > deprecated according to the developer’s website. Should I still try > out OBS Classic, or is the newer OBS studio accessible? > WebInAria: This software seems to have no dedicated website of its > own, the number and quality of ratings it has received on software > hosting sites are low, and it seems like this program hasn’t been > updated in several years now. > I would deeply appreciate it if you could either shed some light on > the above-mentioned software, or alternatively suggest other > accessible screen capturing and recording software that are usable > with a screen reader, especially NVDA. > Thanks.
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Re: Word Processor?
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openoffice and one of its branch libreoffice, are opensource office suite program. they are accessible, but not complete as microsoft word. for example: brows mode, reading and editing endnotes, footnotes, comment dont work and you cant use sayAll in these programs.
On 4/20/18, Lisa P Geibel <lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
Jason White
On Apr 20, 2018, at 04:57, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com> wrote:Interestingly, I edited a Microsoft Word file with NVDA earlier this week and tested it with Microsoft Outlook. I didn’t experience the sluggishness that you report. So, it’s true that some people are not encountering this problem. I’m using NVDA 2018.1.1 and an up to date Office 365 version (Monthly Channel).
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Word Processor?
Lisa P Geibel
Hi,
Thanks to everyone for the help about setting this new computer up. Because of some mishaps, we weren't able to try the install on our own, but it got done. Now, I have a question. I used to have and use Microsoft Word. Loved it, but when I tried to install it, I was told my keys had already been used, so I'm going to try Open Office. I downloaded it and am now lost. What is the section that is similar to Word for Open Office or did I download the wrong thing? Probably, knowing me. LOL I know this topic was covered fairly recently and I'm sorry, but those messages are gone and I had saved them or thought I did in case I had to do this. Please help and sorry for not being better organized. Thanks.
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Ham radio programs
Igor Kaplan
Hi Angelo,
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Don't mean to change the topic, however since you mentioned about ham programs would like to ask you, which ham programs you use? I am not a ham operator, however like to listen the ham radio and DX stations. Many thanks. Igor
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angelo Sonnesso Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 6:07 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS I use both NVDA and Jaws, and for the most part they both work equally well. There are some programs that work better with Jaws, and many program that work better with NVDA. QuickBooks works well with NVDA and so do many of the ham radio programs I use. Jaws has the advantage with the office suite, but for most people NVDA and office work well. Occasionally I find software that will only behave with Narrator, but Narrator is not ready for prime time. Stay Well. 73 N2DYN Angelo -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angela Delicata Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 4:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS Yes, but we can find apps which are not accesible using Jaws also: this depends more on the producer of a specific software rather than nvaccess. So, I agree on what you say , but this applies to Jaws also. Il 20/04/2018 10:06, Tea Turkovic ha scritto: It would be excellent when more companies would colaborate with NV
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
john s
Don, I'm still using WE with win 7. The thing which makes me hesitate to another screen reader is I don't what would replace the WE mouse keys. What did you do with NVDA to replace that function?
At 03:38 PM 4/19/2018, Don H, wrote: I started using NVDA after the demise of Window Eyes. I also got the free Jaws when it was offered. I found NVDA much easier to use over Jaws and use NVDA as my prime screen reader. Just hope that there is no way that VFO can swallow up NVDA as it did Window Eyes.John
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
Ron Canazzi
Hi Group,
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Since many people like a pop3/IMAP local mail client and since many of same really miss Outlook Express, many use Thunderbird. I can say categorically that for whatever reason, NVDA runs rings around JAWS in Thunderbird. This is my personal experience as to why I use exclusively NVDA and almost never use JAWS any more.
On 4/19/2018 3:30 PM, Angela Delicata wrote:
Hi, --
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
I use both NVDA and Jaws, and for the most part they both work equally well.
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There are some programs that work better with Jaws, and many program that work better with NVDA. QuickBooks works well with NVDA and so do many of the ham radio programs I use. Jaws has the advantage with the office suite, but for most people NVDA and office work well. Occasionally I find software that will only behave with Narrator, but Narrator is not ready for prime time. Stay Well. 73 N2DYN Angelo
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Angela Delicata Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 4:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS Yes, but we can find apps which are not accesible using Jaws also: this depends more on the producer of a specific software rather than nvaccess. So, I agree on what you say , but this applies to Jaws also. Il 20/04/2018 10:06, Tea Turković ha scritto: It would be excellent when more companies would colaborate with NV
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Re: nvda and Edge
bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
Sounds good. I was able to enter Reader Mode by ALlt-D then tabbing over to it.
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On 4/20/2018 3:40 AM, David Moore wrote:
Also, the key command:
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
Devin Prater
Well, with all of the computers that I use, NVDA is sluggish with Microsoft Word text areas. So, until NVDA, and yes even Narrator, get that fixed, JAWS is the only viable solution for Office users. Sure, NVDA developers say they’ve never experienced this, but on my laptop with 8 gigs ram, quad core threaded CPU, and 64 bit Windows, and a beefy workstation with 16 gigs of ram, an SSD, and so on, NVDA still lags with Word text areas, this means the document pane pretty much, as well as the Outlook message box. So, JAWS still has that main use for professional Office users and students.
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On Apr 20, 2018, at 3:39 AM, Angela Delicata <angeladelicata@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
Angela Delicata
very well said: good analysis of things.
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Il 19/04/2018 21:43, Gene ha scritto:
There are some uses for which JAWS is better. My impression is that NVDA is either as good or better than JAWS for typical uses such as browsing, e-mail, working with audio players, and doing other things the majority of users do. But JAWS is much more user configurable and the user who knows how to do so can make it work with many programs that aren't widely used, but that the person may want or need. A lot of users won't have a need or wish to do so but the ability to customize JAWS is important for some users.
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
Angela Delicata
Yes, but we can find apps which are not accesible using Jaws also: this depends more on the producer of a specific software rather than nvaccess.
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So, I agree on what you say , but this applies to Jaws also.
Il 20/04/2018 10:06, Tea Turković ha scritto:
It would be excellent when more companies would colaborate with NV Access to make their desktop apps accessible with NVDA.
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
Well in some cases narator is good in scan mode as a secondary screen reader.
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There are bits nvda doesn't read that it does.
On 4/20/2018 11:25 AM, Ashley Wayne wrote:
Hey all,
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
Mallard
Well... I abandoned Jaws in 2009 and, when I installed a demo last year to try it out, I found that I simply didn't know how to use it anymoer... I uninstalled it, and that was it. I ralise it would be handy to have it, at least as demo (I wouldn't buy it at this point...), but I'm too lazy to sit down and re-learn it.
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Ciao, Ollie
Il 20/04/2018 01:45, David Moore ha scritto:
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Re: nvda and Edge
Mallard
Thanks David for all the tips on Edge.
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I use Firefox a lot; I don't seem to experience the issues many others are reporting here. It's still very fast on my machine, but it's become a lot more cumbersome, and tends to block too much stuff totally unrequested. I mostly use Chrome, and definitely Edge for pdf and epub files, because it retains links, which Qread doesn't do. Ciao, Ollie
Il 20/04/2018 01:50, David Moore ha scritto:
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Re: NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS
Tea Turković
It would be excellent when more companies would colaborate with NV Access to make their desktop apps accessible with NVDA.
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19.4.2018. u 22:35, bob jutzi je napisao/la:
I did neglect to give an example, Quicken.
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