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Re: Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA
I have occasionally had issues with both "pure image" PDFs that are images of text, just like anyone does, and also some OCR-ed stuff where the OCR was less than robust. I have taught my clients to get around this by using a now discontinued, but still downloadable, product from Tracker Software in Canada called PDF XChange Viewer. It is not generally accessible on the whole as a substitute for Adobe Reader, but what's necessary to OCR a document and save it is. It uses a menu driven system that's like any other typical Windows program as far as the file menu goes, so all you have to do is open the file, run the OCR process, then save it afterward to keep the newly generated text layer. The command to OCR a file is CTRL+SHIFT+C once the file is open. The default settings give awfully good accuracy. It also supports a number of languages besides English, but you have to download some of the more unusual ones if you want those. I downloaded Swedish a couple of months ago when trying to help someone out.
Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. ~ Henry Rosovsky
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Libra O office starting up
Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
I was trying this out just now as somebody has kindly put it on the windows 10 machine. However when you ask it to start a new text session from the tray icon, you seem to lose focus somehow, and the letters you type do not appear and the cursors do not work either. The only option seems to be to go to the desktop and back again then it will accept input and act as it should. Has anyone else found his issue? Should I perhaps be opening it directly from its executable or maybe its an older version or needs some configuring. This is what can occur when a machine has belonged to a sighted person of course.
Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: setting up the people app on windows 10
Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
I never want my email address book stored online by any email system, as this is far too hackable as Yahoo and BT found out.
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Remember a person has all day every day to hack into your online address book but if its on your own computer and its off part of the time nobody can get at it. as I do not use any other devices that are not pcs, I can easily simply swap the files between them on the local network. Everyone goes on about how convinient this synchronising is, but is it really worth the worry to the average person? Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] setting up the people app on windows 10 One big caution on the "automatic import" of contacts for the People app is this only works if your e-mail client was set up (or capable of) using the contacts associated with your e-mail account and syncing them. There are a number of e-mail clients that don't work that way, and when I was last setting up Thunderbird it didn't work that way. Just a few days ago I had to tweak a client's Thunderbird setup because the e-mail account she had been using through an ISP no longer exists, and she was terrified that all her contacts were going to go when that account went. They didn't, though, because her contacts (or, perhaps, addresses - I can't remember which terminology Tbird uses) are stored local to Tbird and are not synced with her e-mail accounts. Since I'm the one who installed Tbird for her several years ago and I know I didn't change any defaults related to how contacts/addresses are handled, it appears that they are managed locally. When that's the case, you need to make certain to export from your e-mail client and import via the web interface to the contacts for the given e-mail account you're going to be adding to the mail app, and, by extension, the People and Calendar apps. Whether you do this prior to adding it or after will be irrelevant because as soon as those contacts are imported into the contacts list maintained by your email server they will sync with the People app. I hasten to add this is also likely only applicable to IMAP access, though I'm not 100% certain on that. Brian -- Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. ~ Henry Rosovsky
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Re: Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA
Aravind R
no sir,
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if its image pdf then NVDA will announce empty document and document may contain OCR> but, acrobat DC announce blank only even for text pdf
On 5/9/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Most of these I've tried with the current ocr add on end up as Klingon! --
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, Assistant manager Department of sales bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai. mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613. email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.
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Re: Query colour of current text in web browser?
Kevin Huber
Hi:
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I have tried the insert-f hotkey in all three web browsers and have also found that it works in all but Google Chrome. Kevin Huber
On 5/6/16, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
Like subject says, am wondering if there's any way to query colour
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Re: setting up the people app on windows 10
One big caution on the "automatic import" of contacts for the People app is this only works if your e-mail client was set up (or capable of) using the contacts associated with your e-mail account and syncing them. There are a number of e-mail clients that don't work that way, and when I was last setting up Thunderbird it didn't work that way. Just a few days ago I had to tweak a client's Thunderbird setup because the e-mail account she had been using through an ISP no longer exists, and she was terrified that all her contacts were going to go when that account went. They didn't, though, because her contacts (or, perhaps, addresses - I can't remember which terminology Tbird uses) are stored local to Tbird and are not synced with her e-mail accounts. Since I'm the one who installed Tbird for her several years ago and I know I didn't change any defaults related to how contacts/addresses are handled, it appears that they are managed locally. When that's the case, you need to make certain to export from your e-mail client and import via the web interface to the contacts for the given e-mail account you're going to be adding to the mail app, and, by extension, the People and Calendar apps. Whether you do this prior to adding it or after will be irrelevant because as soon as those contacts are imported into the contacts list maintained by your email server they will sync with the People app. I hasten to add this is also likely only applicable to IMAP access, though I'm not 100% certain on that. Brian Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. ~ Henry Rosovsky
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Re: Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA
Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
Most of these I've tried with the current ocr add on end up as Klingon!
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However, its a great pity more of the ocrs do not allow one to open pdfs easily and ocr them. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA Hi Afrim:
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Re: Cannot read PDF documents with NVDA
Kevin Huber
Hi Afrim:
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Sometimes a PDF document is a picture of the text rather than the text itself, so you will have to do OCR on it to make it read. You can try the OCR ad-on, or if you have Kurzweil 1000, you can open the document in Kurzweil 1000 and it will give you a text representation of the document. Kevin Huber
On 5/7/16, Afrim <afrim.maja@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
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Re: setting up the people app on windows 10
Brian Gaff wrote: "when you are admin, in my view it should let you in to everything wherever it is no matter what. Stupid." Not that I don't agree with you but this hasn't been the default behavior since the introduction of User Account Control (UAC). I've routinely turned it down a notch or two or off so that a number of the "Do you really want to do this?" type nags don't appear. There's nothing distinctive about this in Windows 10, absolutely nothing. File Explorer (formerly Winows Explorer) and its attendant functions and warnings look and act exactly like they have since Windows 7. Brian Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. ~ Henry Rosovsky
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Re: Feature request: List of clickable elements in Elements List dialog and single letter navigation for clickable elements
Bhavya shah
Hi Mallard,
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I would strongly urge you to comment, if possible, on the ticket whose link was shared by Victor. Thanks.
On 5/9/16, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu> wrote:
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Warm Regards Bhavya Shah Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen reader for Microsoft Windows To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit http://www.nvaccess.org/ Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2 Reach me through the following means: Mobile: +91 7506221750 E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com Skype id : bhavya.09
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Re: setting up the people app on windows 10
Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
So it sounds a bit like a cut down versionof Outlook then, rather than Outlook Express which I'm using now. Tell me, is all of this in the win 10 you get if you let a windows machine updat to 10 then add classic shell as it seems mine has been.
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I have to say that I find Windows 10 aannoying since it stops you doing normal stuff like copying files from one folder to another, then when you go and look you find that there are messsages which nvda did not alert one to asking if you want to do this and can it go into some other mode in order to do it. If you say yes, it then seems to go off and mess about for ages then falls over with a message you do not have permission to (insert task as needed) When a 10 machine has just one person on it and when you are admin, in my view it should let you in to everything wherever it is no matter what. Stupid. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 2:55 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] setting up the people app on windows 10 Hi Brian, This is how it worked for me. It took me a few hours to figure this out LOL! When I imported my Gmail accounts into the mail app, those contacts automatically imported into the people app. Really, the mail, people, and the calendar apps all work together. Take care, guys! From: Brian Vogel Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 3:01 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] setting up the people app on windows 10 Bobby, There are a couple of variables to involved in answering your question. Windows 10 has an app separate from, but closely allied with, the mail app called "People." It acts as the address book. I use Gmail and access it via IMAP on several different e-mail clients, including the Win10 mail app. The Win10 mail app has automatically synchronized my existing contacts in my gmail account that I use as my Microsoft account ID to my People app as well as those from the specific gmail account that I'm actually accessing via the mail app. If you have always created your contacts in your local address book under Thunderbird, which is quite likely, you can always export those contacts then import them via the web interface for the e-mail account you've been using. From there the People app will synchronize them automatically for any account that is in the mail & people apps. I have yet to find good documentation on doing an import from, for instance, a comma separated list or excel spreadsheet of e-mail addresses straight into the People app. It seems to presume you'll be using a modern e-mail client that synchronizes both messages and contacts with the server. Brian -- Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. ~ Henry Rosovsky
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Re: Feature request: List of clickable elements in Elements List dialog and single letter navigation for clickable elements
Mallard
Hello there,
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Yes, I feel the need for this too. Cliccable elements are getting more and more common these days, and I never know how to navigate between them. It would be great to have a dedicated letter. Ciao, Ollie
Il 06/05/2016 14:36, Bhavya shah ha scritto:
Hi Brian,
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Re: Hi, from win10 Mail App!
christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
I got it, will check this out when I’m bored <smile>. Currently have Thunderbird but want to check this out as an alternative especially if it’s integrated into Windows 10.
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On 8 May 2016, at 07:26, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
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Drop box link of all I sent about using the win10 mail and calendar apps
David Moore
Hi all,
Here is a drop box link of all that I sent about using the win10 mail and
calendar apps. It is a text file, and you can just download it to your computer
after entering on the drop box link. Here is the link.
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Re: need a free and accessible file converter which can convert wma or webm files to mp3
David Moore
Hi,
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I am so happy for you. I think it will really work for you. I am so glad we could help you. Take care, and have a great one.
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From: Shweta Mishra Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 1:14 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] need a free and accessible file converter which can convert wma or webm files to mp3 hi friends! thank you all for all of your support and guidance. I've started using free video to mp3 converter. it's working fine for me. I'll explore other converters also. thanks again! On 5/9/16, Dean Masters <dwmasters15@gmail.com> wrote: I just downloaded and installed the latest version of Format Factory. It put -- efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.
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Re: need a free and accessible file converter which can convert wma or webm files to mp3
Shweta Mishra
hi friends!
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thank you all for all of your support and guidance. I've started using free video to mp3 converter. it's working fine for me. I'll explore other converters also. thanks again!
On 5/9/16, Dean Masters <dwmasters15@gmail.com> wrote:
I just downloaded and installed the latest version of Format Factory. It put --
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.
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Re: Hi, from win10 Mail App!
David Moore
Hi Rosemarie, I am so sorry. I have not sent the info out to this list yet, I sent to the win10 list. I will go ahead and send it out on this list as well. Take care.
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From: David Moore Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 12:31 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App! Hi Rosemarie, I just sent out to the list everything you have to know about using the win10 mail and calendar apps. I will do a audio tutorial for you and everyone else. In the next couple of days, I will do that audio tutorial. Wow, this is so exciting. I just started to mess around with the win10 mail app, and now, I am ready to do an audio tutorial. Look for the message I just sent to the entire list with many articles that take you step by step through different tasks, and there are many key commands. David Moore (win10 list moderator) -----Original Message----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:11 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App! Hi, David, Could you do a tutorial on the mail ap for us like you did for google chrome? That would be great. Rosemarie -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 7:09 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App! Hi, When you are using the win10 mail app, your contacts are imported into the people app. So, you need to use the people app for your contacts and addresses, and the mail app to work with the messages. So, you have the people app and the mail app working together and you should have them both running at the same time. The Calendar app is very closely related to the mail app as well. So really, to have it all, you need the mail, people, and calendar apps running all at the same time. This is how it differs to other clients. You need three apps running to have the whole picture. From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:25 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App! Jacob, Since David Moore has also posted elsewhere about this he is using the new Win10 mail app that ships with every Win10 machine and shows up on the start menu out of the box. It's got little in common with earlier e-mail clients other than the fact that it is used to read mail. I'm still not able to get message text read using NVDA and the Win10 mail app, but I'm presuming that this is operator error of some sort. Brian -- Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. ~ Henry Rosovsky
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Re: Hi, from win10 Mail App!
David Moore
Hi Rosemarie,
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I just sent out to the list everything you have to know about using the win10 mail and calendar apps. I will do a audio tutorial for you and everyone else. In the next couple of days, I will do that audio tutorial. Wow, this is so exciting. I just started to mess around with the win10 mail app, and now, I am ready to do an audio tutorial. Look for the message I just sent to the entire list with many articles that take you step by step through different tasks, and there are many key commands. David Moore (win10 list moderator)
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:11 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App! Hi, David, Could you do a tutorial on the mail ap for us like you did for google chrome? That would be great. Rosemarie -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 7:09 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App! Hi, When you are using the win10 mail app, your contacts are imported into the people app. So, you need to use the people app for your contacts and addresses, and the mail app to work with the messages. So, you have the people app and the mail app working together and you should have them both running at the same time. The Calendar app is very closely related to the mail app as well. So really, to have it all, you need the mail, people, and calendar apps running all at the same time. This is how it differs to other clients. You need three apps running to have the whole picture. From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:25 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App! Jacob, Since David Moore has also posted elsewhere about this he is using the new Win10 mail app that ships with every Win10 machine and shows up on the start menu out of the box. It's got little in common with earlier e-mail clients other than the fact that it is used to read mail. I'm still not able to get message text read using NVDA and the Win10 mail app, but I'm presuming that this is operator error of some sort. Brian -- Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. ~ Henry Rosovsky
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Re: Hi, from win10 Mail App!
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, David,
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Could you do a tutorial on the mail ap for us like you did for google chrome? That would be great. Rosemarie
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 7:09 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App! Hi, When you are using the win10 mail app, your contacts are imported into the people app. So, you need to use the people app for your contacts and addresses, and the mail app to work with the messages. So, you have the people app and the mail app working together and you should have them both running at the same time. The Calendar app is very closely related to the mail app as well. So really, to have it all, you need the mail, people, and calendar apps running all at the same time. This is how it differs to other clients. You need three apps running to have the whole picture. From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 11:25 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi, from win10 Mail App! Jacob, Since David Moore has also posted elsewhere about this he is using the new Win10 mail app that ships with every Win10 machine and shows up on the start menu out of the box. It's got little in common with earlier e-mail clients other than the fact that it is used to read mail. I'm still not able to get message text read using NVDA and the Win10 mail app, but I'm presuming that this is operator error of some sort. Brian -- Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. ~ Henry Rosovsky
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Re: Hi, from win10 Mail App!
David Moore
Hi,
When you are using the win10 mail app, your contacts are imported into the
people app. So, you need to use the people app for your contacts and addresses,
and the mail app to work with the messages. So, you have the people app and the
mail app working together and you should have them both running at the same
time. The Calendar app is very closely related to the mail app as well. So
really, to have it all, you need the mail, people, and calendar apps running all
at the same time. This is how it differs to other clients. You need three apps
running to have the whole picture.
Jacob, Since David Moore has also posted elsewhere about this he is using the new Win10 mail app that ships with every Win10 machine and shows up on the start menu out of the box. It's got little in common with
earlier e-mail clients other than the fact that it is used to read mail. I'm still not able to get message text read using NVDA and the Win10 mail app, but I'm presuming that this is operator error of some sort.
Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.
~ Henry Rosovsky
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