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Brian's Mail list account
 

How does this work though, can you really end up with separate trees for each account without them al l receiving email at the same time?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronald J Glaser" <truefriends@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS


You can use the profile switcher extenchen for thunderbird to get the
identies functionality like in outlok express.


On 4/23/2018 9:24 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
Well, that was my argument for having an add-on for Jaws-like commands for NVDA.
But there seemed to be no interest in that either.
Glenn


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 3:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS

I think my issues with tbird are well known here.
1. it uses hard to remember shortcuts nothing like Outlook express
2. It has all accounts in a tree rather than able to be kept separate as
with identities in Outlook Express. In my view Microsoft are not really
making a like for like program with their windows 10 mail app, and if they
really did make one like OE I think many people would use it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Is Well Ahead Of JAWS


Hi Group,


Since many people like a pop3/IMAP local mail client and since many of
same really miss Outlook Express, many use Thunderbird. I can say
categorically that for whatever reason, NVDA runs rings around JAWS in
Thunderbird. This is my personal experience as to why I use exclusively
NVDA and almost never use JAWS any more.



On 4/19/2018 3:30 PM, Angela Delicata wrote:
Hi,

I removed Jaws completely from my PC and have been using nvda only since
last october... I do exactly the same things as Jaws: web navigation,
checking emails, using text programs et.

I can say in same occations nvda is even better than Jaws... so no need
for it now.

Honestly, I may say those who speak bad of nvda is only because they do
not know it enough.


Ciao

Angela from Italy



Il 19/04/2018 19:04, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Dear friends, the matter of fact is that I’m using JAWS as my primary
screen reader since I have started using computer for the first time in
year 2010.
The latest tutorial of NVDA by Joseph Lee made me interested in using
NVDA.
So I have downloaded and installed it and since then I have been using
it as my secondary screen reader!
I’m very happy to let you know that NVDA is well ahead of JAWS specially
in the area of accessibility!
Friends, I’d like to request you to please comment about my observation
if it is right?
Please let me know the pros and cons of my observation!
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Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Gene,

 

Your step by step instructions were very helpful, thanks! I now have Adobe set as the application to use for viewing PDF files.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 12:59 AM
To: Gene <gsasner@...>; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

 

I don't know if you are seeing my messages since you haven't responded to any but you have to every other sender. 

 

To change the behavior, do the following.

Open tools, alt t, then o for options.

After options opens tab once.

Down arrow to applications.

Tab until you get to the search field.

Type pdf

Then tab and there will be a result.

It will tell you what your current choice is.  It will say list but you'll only see that item.

In the list up or down arrow to select that item.  Then tab once. 

You are in a combo box.  Up arrow to the choice you want, preview in Firefox.

This dialog doesn't have an ok button.  Settings take immediate effect.

 

Options is a web page that looks like a dialog.  Since you are actually on a web page that Firefox generates internally, do whatever you wannt from here in the same way as you would leave any web page, such as going to another page with a book mark, closing the browser, etc.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Gene

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:41 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

 

In this case, how would you tell Firefox to either download the PDF or open it in another program?  right clicking the link and using save link as might allow a download but there are sites where right clicking won't work so if the situation can't be corrected or another method is desired, it would be good to know how this is done. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

 

You are correct Gene it is built in. I hate it. I still use Adobe Reader DC.

 

Lino Morales

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:28:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

 

Firefox has a PDF reader.  I don't know if its built into the browser or if it's an add on but whatever it is, it is distributed as part of the browser.  Why yours doesn't work, I don't know. 

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

 

John,

I just tried that now that you described it but, no luck! I still got a blank screen when the link opened and no sign of adobe or any effort to display the pdf document.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Oh, here's how I opened the link. I went to the brochures page, got down to the brochures, highlighted a link, November 2014 or whatever with the arrow keys, and pressed enter, specifically enter on the main keyboard.
I didn't touch the number pad in any of this. It didn't show up as being in tables for me, but I have include layout tables unchecked.


On 4/24/2018 11:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
>
> Quentin,
>
> I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.
>
> When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site
> www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox
> opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the
> attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this
> page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables
> containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The
> brochure files are held on the website.
>
> When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am
> on the link and numpad  5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it.
> This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is
> that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!
>
> I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but
> JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.
>
> Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar,
> the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, …  All of these do nothing!
>
> Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and
> see if you are having the same trouble?
>
> All the best,
>
> Cearbhall
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
> cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>







new laptop

 

Hi.
As my toshiba is getting quite old I will be getting another laptop.
What should I avoid, what should I go for.
I have used asus boards and find them stable enough.
I have used an hp my aunt has and while there are enhancements to manage its stable enough.
People say stay away from dell because of its sound effects thingy and other things, and well lenovo aparently is quite good though never investigated that one.
Note, anything suggested must be able to be gotten in new zealand or at least have me have a shot at getting.
It will have win10 to.


Re: Handy Tech Active Star 40: gets just recognized after switching to pc mode

Felix G.
 

Hello Simon,
do you mean not recognized, or not Brailling?
In other words: At the point when you think it hasn't been recognized, can you please switch to pc mode for me and report what happens?
Best,
Felix

2018-04-24 21:08 GMT+02:00 Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@...>:

Hi,

I have a Handy Tech Active Star 40.
I am running the latest NVDA Next 15060 but that also happened on NVDA
2018.1.
When the braille display is turned on and NVDA starts then the display
seems not to be recognized when the start up mode is switched to main menu.
it just gets recognized when the start up mode is pc mode.
A few months ago that was automatically switched by NVDA.
Is there an issue in the Handy Tech driver?
I am running Windows 10 Home 64 Bit.
I have the recent firmware 2.0c installed but that also happened when
2.0b was installed as well.

Greetings and thanks,
Simon

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Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Gene
 

I don't know if you are seeing my messages since you haven't responded to any but you have to every other sender. 
 
To change the behavior, do the following.
Open tools, alt t, then o for options.
After options opens tab once.
Down arrow to applications.
Tab until you get to the search field.
Type pdf
Then tab and there will be a result.
It will tell you what your current choice is.  It will say list but you'll only see that item.
In the list up or down arrow to select that item.  Then tab once. 
You are in a combo box.  Up arrow to the choice you want, preview in Firefox.
This dialog doesn't have an ok button.  Settings take immediate effect.
 
Options is a web page that looks like a dialog.  Since you are actually on a web page that Firefox generates internally, do whatever you wannt from here in the same way as you would leave any web page, such as going to another page with a book mark, closing the browser, etc.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

In this case, how would you tell Firefox to either download the PDF or open it in another program?  right clicking the link and using save link as might allow a download but there are sites where right clicking won't work so if the situation can't be corrected or another method is desired, it would be good to know how this is done. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

You are correct Gene it is built in. I hate it. I still use Adobe Reader DC.

 

Lino Morales

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:28:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA
 
Firefox has a PDF reader.  I don't know if its built into the browser or if it's an add on but whatever it is, it is distributed as part of the browser.  Why yours doesn't work, I don't know. 
 
Gene
----- Original message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

John,

I just tried that now that you described it but, no luck! I still got a blank screen when the link opened and no sign of adobe or any effort to display the pdf document.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Oh, here's how I opened the link. I went to the brochures page, got down to the brochures, highlighted a link, November 2014 or whatever with the arrow keys, and pressed enter, specifically enter on the main keyboard.
I didn't touch the number pad in any of this. It didn't show up as being in tables for me, but I have include layout tables unchecked.


On 4/24/2018 11:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
>
> Quentin,
>
> I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.
>
> When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site
> www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox
> opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the
> attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this
> page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables
> containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The
> brochure files are held on the website.
>
> When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am
> on the link and numpad  5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it.
> This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is
> that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!
>
> I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but
> JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.
>
> Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar,
> the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, …  All of these do nothing!
>
> Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and
> see if you are having the same trouble?
>
> All the best,
>
> Cearbhall
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
> cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>








Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

John, Ron and Quentin,
I have discovered what is happening! In Firefox, every time I click on a document linked to a web page, Firefox downloads the file to the default "Downloads" folder on my PC. I now have several copies of various files that I have been trying to open!

Any idea what setting is controlling this behaviour in Firefox? It is clearly not a fault in Firefox but it is not what I want Firefox to do.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

I clicked on that link, clicked on brochures or whatever, and picked the first one, November 2014 or such. It came up just fine. At first it had the typical PDF controls, zoom and such, and then below those it said "clickable" and it was blank, but if you wait a second or two, maybe longer depending on your connection, it comes up. I read about a photographer and some sort of American tribal belly dance troop, whatever the hell that means, and a group who did 1950s French and Italian music whose saxophone is apparently coming real soon now.


This is using "Microsoft WindowsVersion 1709 (OS Build 16299.371"
64-bit, NVDA 1018.1.1, and Firefox 59.0.2 64-bit.


On 4/24/2018 12:06, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Quentin,

I have just tried the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net>
on Google Chrome and it works perfectly with NVDA, successfully
opening the .PDF brochure in a separate window. This also suggests
that this is a Firefox problem.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
cearbhall.omeadhra@...

*From:*Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:55 PM
*To:* 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* RE: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Quentin,

I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.

When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site
www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox
opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the
attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this
page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables
containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The
brochure files are held on the website.

When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am
on the link and numpad 5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it.
This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is
that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!

I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but
JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.

Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar,
the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, … All of these do nothing!

Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and
see if you are having the same trouble?

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
cearbhall.omeadhra@... <mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...>


Re: UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only

Jonathan COHN
 

I tried it earlier today using Safari on my Macintosh. and got similar results. So if you want to book in the current month it should be quite easy. Getting date pickers to work is not as easy as it should be for web developers, but there are at least two widgets available that are accessible. 


Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Gene
 

In this case, how would you tell Firefox to either download the PDF or open it in another program?  right clicking the link and using save link as might allow a download but there are sites where right clicking won't work so if the situation can't be corrected or another method is desired, it would be good to know how this is done. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

You are correct Gene it is built in. I hate it. I still use Adobe Reader DC.

 

Lino Morales

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:28:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA
 
Firefox has a PDF reader.  I don't know if its built into the browser or if it's an add on but whatever it is, it is distributed as part of the browser.  Why yours doesn't work, I don't know. 
 
Gene
----- Original message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

John,

I just tried that now that you described it but, no luck! I still got a blank screen when the link opened and no sign of adobe or any effort to display the pdf document.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Oh, here's how I opened the link. I went to the brochures page, got down to the brochures, highlighted a link, November 2014 or whatever with the arrow keys, and pressed enter, specifically enter on the main keyboard.
I didn't touch the number pad in any of this. It didn't show up as being in tables for me, but I have include layout tables unchecked.


On 4/24/2018 11:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
>
> Quentin,
>
> I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.
>
> When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site
> www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox
> opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the
> attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this
> page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables
> containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The
> brochure files are held on the website.
>
> When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am
> on the link and numpad  5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it.
> This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is
> that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!
>
> I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but
> JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.
>
> Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar,
> the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, …  All of these do nothing!
>
> Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and
> see if you are having the same trouble?
>
> All the best,
>
> Cearbhall
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
> cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>








Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

You are correct Gene it is built in. I hate it. I still use Adobe Reader DC.

 

Lino Morales

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:28:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA
 
Firefox has a PDF reader.  I don't know if its built into the browser or if it's an add on but whatever it is, it is distributed as part of the browser.  Why yours doesn't work, I don't know. 
 
Gene
----- Original message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

John,

I just tried that now that you described it but, no luck! I still got a blank screen when the link opened and no sign of adobe or any effort to display the pdf document.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Oh, here's how I opened the link. I went to the brochures page, got down to the brochures, highlighted a link, November 2014 or whatever with the arrow keys, and pressed enter, specifically enter on the main keyboard.
I didn't touch the number pad in any of this. It didn't show up as being in tables for me, but I have include layout tables unchecked.


On 4/24/2018 11:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
>
> Quentin,
>
> I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.
>
> When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site
> www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox
> opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the
> attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this
> page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables
> containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The
> brochure files are held on the website.
>
> When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am
> on the link and numpad  5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it.
> This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is
> that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!
>
> I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but
> JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.
>
> Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar,
> the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, …  All of these do nothing!
>
> Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and
> see if you are having the same trouble?
>
> All the best,
>
> Cearbhall
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
> cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>








Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Gene
 

Firefox has a PDF reader.  I don't know if its built into the browser or if it's an add on but whatever it is, it is distributed as part of the browser.  Why yours doesn't work, I don't know. 
 
Gene

----- Original message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

John,

I just tried that now that you described it but, no luck! I still got a blank screen when the link opened and no sign of adobe or any effort to display the pdf document.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Oh, here's how I opened the link. I went to the brochures page, got down to the brochures, highlighted a link, November 2014 or whatever with the arrow keys, and pressed enter, specifically enter on the main keyboard.
I didn't touch the number pad in any of this. It didn't show up as being in tables for me, but I have include layout tables unchecked.


On 4/24/2018 11:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
>
> Quentin,
>
> I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.
>
> When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site
> www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox
> opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the
> attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this
> page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables
> containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The
> brochure files are held on the website.
>
> When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am
> on the link and numpad  5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it.
> This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is
> that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!
>
> I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but
> JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.
>
> Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar,
> the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, …  All of these do nothing!
>
> Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and
> see if you are having the same trouble?
>
> All the best,
>
> Cearbhall
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
> cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>








Re: UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only

Gene
 

I never use Internet Explorer and I don't have a current version.  But it's good that it works on that part of the site. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only

It changed the date as I picked 29 so it then said 04/29/2018.
 
Marvin
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only
 
What happens if you click another date? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin Atkins"
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only
 
Rob,
 
I use JAWS 2018 latest build and IE and when I go into forms mode on the pickup date  field, I type but nothing happens but if I go into JAWS mode I hear a calendar with days and if I click on say, 24 and then go back to pc cursor and go to the pickup date field, I hear 04/24/2018.
 
Marvin   
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only
 
From looking at the site, I understand what is occurring.  It is a read only edit field because it is supposed to display a date you select.  But however you are supposed to select the date is inaccessible.  If I am in forms mode and I'm in the edit field, if I press enter, the edit field shows today's date.  But there is no accessible way to change it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only
 
Environment: Windows 10, Version 1709 (OS Build 16299.371), Firefox ESR 52.6.3x64, Google Chrome 66.0.3359.117 (Official Build) (32-bit), NVDA 2018.1.
I'm trying to reserve a truck for my upcoming move, via
http://www.uhaul.com/
However, when it comes to selecting a pickup date, the edit box is read only; you can't enter a date. I can enter a pickup and drop off, but no date. The time of day is a combo box, but again, the day is read only.
Can anyone else duplicate this before I report it to the company?




Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

John,

I just tried that now that you described it but, no luck! I still got a blank screen when the link opened and no sign of adobe or any effort to display the pdf document.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Oh, here's how I opened the link. I went to the brochures page, got down to the brochures, highlighted a link, November 2014 or whatever with the arrow keys, and pressed enter, specifically enter on the main keyboard.
I didn't touch the number pad in any of this. It didn't show up as being in tables for me, but I have include layout tables unchecked.


On 4/24/2018 11:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Quentin,

I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.

When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site
www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox
opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the
attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this
page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables
containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The
brochure files are held on the website.

When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am
on the link and numpad 5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it.
This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is
that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!

I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but
JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.

Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar,
the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, … All of these do nothing!

Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and
see if you are having the same trouble?

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
cearbhall.omeadhra@...


Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Ron,

 

Thanks for the response!

I dont have any problem reading a pdf file that is stored on my PC. This problem only occurs in Firefox with an online pdf document.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

 

Hi Cearbhall,

 

I can't give you an exact reproduction of this because  I have Office 365 and the PDF documents open in Microsoft Word.  However, if I right click and choose save as, it saves as a DDF and thencan be opened and read quite well with NVDA in the Adobe PDF Reader.

 

 

On 4/24/2018 12:54 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Quentin,

 

I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.

 

When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site www.brayarts.net you will find that Firefox opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The brochure files are held on the website.  

 

When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am on the link and numpad  5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it. This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!

 

I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.

 

Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar, the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, …  All of these do nothing!

 

Would you try the link www.brayarts.net and see if you are having the same trouble?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 



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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only

"Marvin Atkins"
 

It changed the date as I picked 29 so it then said 04/29/2018.
 
Marvin
 

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only
 
What happens if you click another date? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin Atkins"
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only
 
Rob,
 
I use JAWS 2018 latest build and IE and when I go into forms mode on the pickup date  field, I type but nothing happens but if I go into JAWS mode I hear a calendar with days and if I click on say, 24 and then go back to pc cursor and go to the pickup date field, I hear 04/24/2018.
 
Marvin   
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only
 
From looking at the site, I understand what is occurring.  It is a read only edit field because it is supposed to display a date you select.  But however you are supposed to select the date is inaccessible.  If I am in forms mode and I'm in the edit field, if I press enter, the edit field shows today's date.  But there is no accessible way to change it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only
 
Environment: Windows 10, Version 1709 (OS Build 16299.371), Firefox ESR 52.6.3x64, Google Chrome 66.0.3359.117 (Official Build) (32-bit), NVDA 2018.1.
I'm trying to reserve a truck for my upcoming move, via
http://www.uhaul.com/
However, when it comes to selecting a pickup date, the edit box is read only; you can't enter a date. I can enter a pickup and drop off, but no date. The time of day is a combo box, but again, the day is read only.
Can anyone else duplicate this before I report it to the company?




Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

John,

That's encouraging news! You managed to read the lot all right. What keystrokes did you use?

Like you, My windows is Version 1709 (OS Build 16299.371)
So, there must be a simple explanation as to why I can't get the document links to open even though the page links on the site do open correctly.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

I clicked on that link, clicked on brochures or whatever, and picked the first one, November 2014 or such. It came up just fine. At first it had the typical PDF controls, zoom and such, and then below those it said "clickable" and it was blank, but if you wait a second or two, maybe longer depending on your connection, it comes up. I read about a photographer and some sort of American tribal belly dance troop, whatever the hell that means, and a group who did 1950s French and Italian music whose saxophone is apparently coming real soon now.


This is using "Microsoft WindowsVersion 1709 (OS Build 16299.371"
64-bit, NVDA 1018.1.1, and Firefox 59.0.2 64-bit.


On 4/24/2018 12:06, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Quentin,

I have just tried the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net>
on Google Chrome and it works perfectly with NVDA, successfully
opening the .PDF brochure in a separate window. This also suggests
that this is a Firefox problem.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
cearbhall.omeadhra@...

*From:*Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:55 PM
*To:* 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* RE: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Quentin,

I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.

When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site
www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox
opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the
attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this
page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables
containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The
brochure files are held on the website.

When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am
on the link and numpad 5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it.
This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is
that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!

I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but
JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.

Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar,
the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, … All of these do nothing!

Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and
see if you are having the same trouble?

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
cearbhall.omeadhra@... <mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...>


Re: UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only

Gene
 

What happens if you click another date? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only

Rob,
 
I use JAWS 2018 latest build and IE and when I go into forms mode on the pickup date  field, I type but nothing happens but if I go into JAWS mode I hear a calendar with days and if I click on say, 24 and then go back to pc cursor and go to the pickup date field, I hear 04/24/2018.
 
Marvin   
 
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only
 
From looking at the site, I understand what is occurring.  It is a read only edit field because it is supposed to display a date you select.  But however you are supposed to select the date is inaccessible.  If I am in forms mode and I'm in the edit field, if I press enter, the edit field shows today's date.  But there is no accessible way to change it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only
 
Environment: Windows 10, Version 1709 (OS Build 16299.371), Firefox ESR 52.6.3x64, Google Chrome 66.0.3359.117 (Official Build) (32-bit), NVDA 2018.1.
I'm trying to reserve a truck for my upcoming move, via
http://www.uhaul.com/
However, when it comes to selecting a pickup date, the edit box is read only; you can't enter a date. I can enter a pickup and drop off, but no date. The time of day is a combo box, but again, the day is read only.
Can anyone else duplicate this before I report it to the company?




Re: UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only

"Marvin Atkins"
 

Rob,
 
I use JAWS 2018 latest build and IE and when I go into forms mode on the pickup date  field, I type but nothing happens but if I go into JAWS mode I hear a calendar with days and if I click on say, 24 and then go back to pc cursor and go to the pickup date field, I hear 04/24/2018.
 
Marvin   
 

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only
 
From looking at the site, I understand what is occurring.  It is a read only edit field because it is supposed to display a date you select.  But however you are supposed to select the date is inaccessible.  If I am in forms mode and I'm in the edit field, if I press enter, the edit field shows today's date.  But there is no accessible way to change it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only
 
Environment: Windows 10, Version 1709 (OS Build 16299.371), Firefox ESR 52.6.3x64, Google Chrome 66.0.3359.117 (Official Build) (32-bit), NVDA 2018.1.
I'm trying to reserve a truck for my upcoming move, via
http://www.uhaul.com/
However, when it comes to selecting a pickup date, the edit box is read only; you can't enter a date. I can enter a pickup and drop off, but no date. The time of day is a combo box, but again, the day is read only.
Can anyone else duplicate this before I report it to the company?




Re: UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only

Gene
 

From looking at the site, I understand what is occurring.  It is a read only edit field because it is supposed to display a date you select.  But however you are supposed to select the date is inaccessible.  If I am in forms mode and I'm in the edit field, if I press enter, the edit field shows today's date.  But there is no accessible way to change it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:52 PM
Subject: [nvda] UHaul.com: Date Select is Read Only

Environment: Windows 10, Version 1709 (OS Build 16299.371), Firefox ESR 52.6.3x64, Google Chrome 66.0.3359.117 (Official Build) (32-bit), NVDA 2018.1.
I'm trying to reserve a truck for my upcoming move, via
http://www.uhaul.com/
However, when it comes to selecting a pickup date, the edit box is read only; you can't enter a date. I can enter a pickup and drop off, but no date. The time of day is a combo box, but again, the day is read only.
Can anyone else duplicate this before I report it to the company?




Handy Tech Active Star 40: gets just recognized after switching to pc mode

Simon Eigeldinger
 

Hi,

I have a Handy Tech Active Star 40.
I am running the latest NVDA Next 15060 but that also happened on NVDA
2018.1.
When the braille display is turned on and NVDA starts then the display
seems not to be recognized when the start up mode is switched to main menu.
it just gets recognized when the start up mode is pc mode.
A few months ago that was automatically switched by NVDA.
Is there an issue in the Handy Tech driver?
I am running Windows 10 Home 64 Bit.
I have the recent firmware 2.0c installed but that also happened when
2.0b was installed as well.

Greetings and thanks,
Simon

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Re: For Orhan: Soulseek I Use Now On Send Space

Orhan Deniz <orhan.deniz63@...>
 

Open the client, ctrl+tab until you get to options, and then make sure you're on the UI tab of the options tab. check the two checkboxes use old style transfers view and use old style search results.

In the search tab, after the manual search subtab, there is a combo box that says down. that is in fact the edit field where you type your search query.

From then on its just a case of using object nav in the various tabs, including search results. you can't use regular up+down cursor keys as it only really reports user or file name depending on the column you've got highlighted. But object nav shows everything.

On 24/04/2018 04:19, The Wolf wrote:
can you write up a tutorial on using the qt versions?
On 4/23/2018 7:46 PM, Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io wrote:
It's ok tbh I'm on QT for most of my needs. the only downside is I can't seem to close multiple tabs of searches or users. control+w doesn't work on the qt interface.

Orhan.
On 24/04/2018 01:54, Ron Canazzi wrote:
It works perfectly with NVDA latest version and Windows ten.



On 4/23/2018 8:13 PM, Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Ron,
Sorry for getting back to this quite late. no, still no luck I'm afraid. the mouse pointer just won't move with the carot unfortunately. QT it is then.

Orhan.
On 08/04/2018 11:30, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I tried sending this off list to Orhan, but the e-mail address I extracted from his outgoing mail bounced it, so here it is for him and anyone else on Send Space.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/cvkbrf