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Re: Check Disk

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I tend to shut mine down completely as this lets it cool down as well.

I've seen sleep mode get interrupted before now for reasons best known to itself. With a ssd you might as well shut it as there is little speed of booting overhead one way or the other.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Check Disk


The question is how to run Check Disk from the command prompt. The drive is working.

When you run check disk from the command prompt, if you simply want a report, then just type chkdsk. The default is read, no errors are corrected. Just type chkdsk and press enter and the procedure will start.

At the end, to review the summary, move aroung the screen using review commands like numpad 7 8 9. You should be able to move when you are in object review, I don't think you can when you are in screen review.

and keep in mind that you are just checking the file system the way you are running check disk. You aren't checking disk segments, if that is the correct word, for physical integrity. To do that, you need to do a thorough Check Disk and I don't know if you can do that as a read only option.

If you are using a desktop, and it doesn't get moved when it is running, you would seldom have to check for physical integrity. If it's a laptop, and you move it when it's running or it gets some sort of jolts while it is running, then you should check for physical integrity more often. I'm not talking about digital drives, I'm talking about mechanical drives.

I always put my laptop into sleep mode before moving it.
Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Check Disk


Unless its changed the whole thing defaults to read only just like the disc
check in the tools section of the properties does, as you are still in
effect in windows.
I have to say that you really do need it to run at start up to get it to
repair stuff whatever you do unless you are checking a drive with no links
to windows on it, say the D: drive at which time it normally unmounts and
remounts afterwards as far as I can see.

Or did I misunderstand the issue? If you suspect problems with any drive.
your first port of call needs to be check all cables and plugs to and from
psu and drive to motherboard before you run any repair on the drive as it
will only make things worse otherwise.
Brian

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From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Check Disk


Okay, can you give me a bit more on what I can expect when I do it with
NVDA? I go to cmd, do chkdsk /r, and then what will happen?
On Apr 25, 2018, at 8:59 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

chkdsk will read the disk in read only mode.

I usually run this to see if there are any errors.

Note on all drives even ssds the main tables are always out of sync.

Don't worry about mft mismatch or mft bitmap space errors per say unless
they are followed or preceeded with usn journal, lost files, and missing
chain errors.

For whatever reason at least on the os drives windows seems to run things
slightly out of sync.

Ofcause this only shows on command line point.

Since a chkdsk /x /f and or /r requires the system to be in access only
mode there is usually no speech during that time.

Any results can be reviewed in eventlog or chkdsk.log if you use the /log
switch then c:\chkdsk.log and then its ok I think.




On 4/26/2018 12:51 PM, kelby carlson wrote:
Does anybody know if there is a safe way to run Chkdsk from the command
prompt with NVDA? I'd like to do it but don't want to get stuck not being
able to read the data if NVDA doesn't come back on during the recovery
phase.





Re: Check Disk

Gene
 

The question is how to run Check Disk from the command prompt.  The drive is working. 
 
When you run check disk from the command prompt, if you simply want a report, then just type chkdsk.  The default is read, no errors are corrected.  Just type chkdsk and press enter and the procedure will start. 
At the end, to review the summary, move aroung the screen using review commands like numpad 7 8 9.  You should be able to move when you are in object review, I don't think you can when you are in screen review. 
 
and keep in mind that you are just checking the file system the way you are running check disk.  You aren't checking disk segments, if that is the correct word, for physical integrity.  To do that, you need to do a thorough Check Disk and I don't know if you can do that as a read only option. 
 
If you are using a desktop, and it doesn't get moved when it is running, you would seldom have to check for physical integrity.  If it's a laptop, and you move it when it's running or it gets some sort of jolts while it is running, then you should check for physical integrity more often.  I'm not talking about digital drives, I'm talking about mechanical drives. 
 
I always put my laptop into sleep mode before moving it.
Gene

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Check Disk

Unless its changed the whole thing defaults to read only  just like the disc
check in the tools section of the properties does, as you are still in
effect in windows.
 I have to say that you really do need it to run at start up to get it to
repair stuff whatever you do unless you are checking a drive with no links
to windows on it, say the D: drive at which time it normally unmounts and
remounts afterwards as far as I can see.

Or did I misunderstand the issue? If you suspect problems with any drive.
your first port of call needs to be check all cables and plugs to and from
psu and drive to motherboard before you run any repair on the drive  as it
will only make things worse otherwise.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Check Disk


Okay, can you give me a bit more on what I can expect when I do it with
NVDA? I go to cmd, do chkdsk /r, and then what will happen?
> On Apr 25, 2018, at 8:59 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
>
> chkdsk will read the disk in read only mode.
>
> I usually run this to see if there are any errors.
>
> Note on all drives even ssds the main tables are always out of sync.
>
> Don't worry about mft mismatch or mft bitmap space errors per say unless
> they are followed or preceeded with usn journal, lost files, and missing
> chain errors.
>
> For whatever reason at least on the os drives windows seems to run things
> slightly out of sync.
>
> Ofcause this only shows on command line point.
>
> Since a chkdsk /x /f and or /r requires the system to be in access only
> mode there is usually no speech during that time.
>
> Any results can be reviewed in eventlog or chkdsk.log  if you use the /log
> switch then c:\chkdsk.log and then its ok I think.
>
>
>
>
>> On 4/26/2018 12:51 PM, kelby carlson wrote:
>> Does anybody know if there is a safe way to run Chkdsk from the command
>> prompt with NVDA? I'd like to do it but don't want to get stuck not being
>> able to read the data if NVDA doesn't come back on during the recovery
>> phase.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>






Re: Check Disk

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Unless its changed the whole thing defaults to read only just like the disc check in the tools section of the properties does, as you are still in effect in windows.
I have to say that you really do need it to run at start up to get it to repair stuff whatever you do unless you are checking a drive with no links to windows on it, say the D: drive at which time it normally unmounts and remounts afterwards as far as I can see.

Or did I misunderstand the issue? If you suspect problems with any drive. your first port of call needs to be check all cables and plugs to and from psu and drive to motherboard before you run any repair on the drive as it will only make things worse otherwise.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Check Disk


Okay, can you give me a bit more on what I can expect when I do it with NVDA? I go to cmd, do chkdsk /r, and then what will happen?
On Apr 25, 2018, at 8:59 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

chkdsk will read the disk in read only mode.

I usually run this to see if there are any errors.

Note on all drives even ssds the main tables are always out of sync.

Don't worry about mft mismatch or mft bitmap space errors per say unless they are followed or preceeded with usn journal, lost files, and missing chain errors.

For whatever reason at least on the os drives windows seems to run things slightly out of sync.

Ofcause this only shows on command line point.

Since a chkdsk /x /f and or /r requires the system to be in access only mode there is usually no speech during that time.

Any results can be reviewed in eventlog or chkdsk.log if you use the /log switch then c:\chkdsk.log and then its ok I think.




On 4/26/2018 12:51 PM, kelby carlson wrote:
Does anybody know if there is a safe way to run Chkdsk from the command prompt with NVDA? I'd like to do it but don't want to get stuck not being able to read the data if NVDA doesn't come back on during the recovery phase.





Re: Check Disk

kelby carlson
 

Okay, can you give me a bit more on what I can expect when I do it with NVDA? I go to cmd, do chkdsk /r, and then what will happen?

On Apr 25, 2018, at 8:59 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

chkdsk will read the disk in read only mode.

I usually run this to see if there are any errors.

Note on all drives even ssds the main tables are always out of sync.

Don't worry about mft mismatch or mft bitmap space errors per say unless they are followed or preceeded with usn journal, lost files, and missing chain errors.

For whatever reason at least on the os drives windows seems to run things slightly out of sync.

Ofcause this only shows on command line point.

Since a chkdsk /x /f and or /r requires the system to be in access only mode there is usually no speech during that time.

Any results can be reviewed in eventlog or chkdsk.log if you use the /log switch then c:\chkdsk.log and then its ok I think.




On 4/26/2018 12:51 PM, kelby carlson wrote:
Does anybody know if there is a safe way to run Chkdsk from the command prompt with NVDA? I'd like to do it but don't want to get stuck not being able to read the data if NVDA doesn't come back on during the recovery phase.





Re: Check Disk

 

chkdsk will read the disk in read only mode.

I usually run this to see if there are any errors.

Note on all drives even ssds the main tables are always out of sync.

Don't worry about mft mismatch or mft bitmap space errors per say unless they are followed or preceeded with usn journal, lost files, and missing chain errors.

For whatever reason at least on the os drives windows seems to run things slightly out of sync.

Ofcause this only shows on command line point.

Since a chkdsk /x /f and or /r requires the system to be in access only mode there is usually no speech during that time.

Any results can be reviewed in eventlog or chkdsk.log  if you use the /log switch then c:\chkdsk.log and then its ok I think.

On 4/26/2018 12:51 PM, kelby carlson wrote:
Does anybody know if there is a safe way to run Chkdsk from the command prompt with NVDA? I'd like to do it but don't want to get stuck not being able to read the data if NVDA doesn't come back on during the recovery phase.



Check Disk

kelby carlson
 

Does anybody know if there is a safe way to run Chkdsk from the command prompt with NVDA? I'd like to do it but don't want to get stuck not being able to read the data if NVDA doesn't come back on during the recovery phase.


Re: Looking for a Synthesizer

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi is this the sapi 5 eloquence from A.T. guys that you can use with not use NVDA but another speech program that you wish?

On 4/25/2018 2:07 PM, Kelly Sapergia wrote:
Both the SAPI 5 and NVDA versions are made by Code Factory. I bought the
SAPI 5 version from AT Guys, but both versions can also be purchased direct
from Code Factory.

Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
Show Host and Production Director
The Global Voice Internet Radio
www.theglobalvoice.info

Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net
Business Site (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com
Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia




--

Casey


Re: new laptop

 

AAh ok, is any of that extra lenovo stuff any good though.

For example, on my old toshiba I kept all of the extras mostly till it exited support then cannd it all because it was not of use.

On the hp I had bar office mcafee and some games I kept most of it as I used the support hub a lot and it had some use.

After all the issues with the cyberlink stuff and my dvd drive on another system weather I keep that on on my new box would be a different matter I'd probably keep it but not use it.

As for lenovo, I think I would look at it first and see if it was any used to me before I killed it all and at least looked what use it had.

Some of it I'd probably get rid of though.

Not everything is bloat if you have a use for it.

On 4/26/2018 12:52 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
I've had pretty decent luck with my Lenovo, though there will be some bloatware that comes with the PC you'll want to get rid of. (Basically anything in the programs list that starts with Lenovo can be uninstalled safely.) I've had mine for a year and it generally runs quite fast.
On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

aah ok.




On 4/25/2018 8:20 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
You probably need to talk to Jonathan Mosen then, he lives in NZ and has just been through a laptop purchase for his blind wife.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 7:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] new laptop


Hi.
As my toshiba is getting quite old I will be getting another laptop.
What should I avoid, what should I go for.
I have used asus boards and find them stable enough.
I have used an hp my aunt has and while there are enhancements to manage its stable enough.
People say stay away from dell because of its sound effects thingy and other things, and well lenovo aparently is quite good though never investigated that one.
Note, anything suggested must be able to be gotten in new zealand or at least have me have a shot at getting.
It will have win10 to.






reading some characters in other languages gets you a unicode or Hex value

 

Hello folks. The subject, I believe, states the problem rather well. When I read character by character in some languages, Greek and Hebrew are ones I know for sure do this, ESpeak NG reads some characters and gives me a Unicode value for them. I wonder why this is? If Greek is fully supported in Espeak NG, shouldn't it read the words and not just characters? I could be missing something here. If I"m not clear enough, please do ask for clarification.




Re: Looking for a Synthesizer

Kelly Sapergia
 

Both the SAPI 5 and NVDA versions are made by Code Factory. I bought the
SAPI 5 version from AT Guys, but both versions can also be purchased direct
from Code Factory.

Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
Show Host and Production Director
The Global Voice Internet Radio
www.theglobalvoice.info

Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net
Business Site (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com
Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia


Re: Looking for a Synthesizer

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi is this the same equalence that you can purchase from At guys or is this A different one?

On 4/25/2018 9:47 AM, Kelly Sapergia wrote:
Hi,

If you like Eloquence, I recommend the SAPI 5 version from Code Factory. I
also tried the latest update to their Eloquence and Vocalizer addon, and
while Eloquence sounds considerably better than it did when the addon was
first released, I noticed that sometimes pressing Control wouldn't silence
speech until I pressed one of the arrow keys to move to a different line,
message, etc. I say this because this issue has occurred (for me anyway) in
Outlook's message view, the desktop, and even when reading a webpage. From
what I can tell, it seems to be random, but after I've pressed an arrow key,
the Control key would work great again. It even occurs with the addon's
Vocalizer voices.
I haven't noticed this issue at all with the SAPI 5 version of Eloquence, so
that was the deciding factor for me in my purchase.
I also have both the Vocalizer voices addon from Tiflotecnia, though the
newest voices aren't currently available for it, and the Acapela voices
addon.

Hope this helps.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
Show Host and Production Director
The Global Voice Internet Radio
www.theglobalvoice.info

Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net
Business Site (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com
Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia





--

Casey


Re: Looking for a Synthesizer

Kelly Sapergia
 

Hi,

If you like Eloquence, I recommend the SAPI 5 version from Code Factory. I
also tried the latest update to their Eloquence and Vocalizer addon, and
while Eloquence sounds considerably better than it did when the addon was
first released, I noticed that sometimes pressing Control wouldn't silence
speech until I pressed one of the arrow keys to move to a different line,
message, etc. I say this because this issue has occurred (for me anyway) in
Outlook's message view, the desktop, and even when reading a webpage. From
what I can tell, it seems to be random, but after I've pressed an arrow key,
the Control key would work great again. It even occurs with the addon's
Vocalizer voices.
I haven't noticed this issue at all with the SAPI 5 version of Eloquence, so
that was the deciding factor for me in my purchase.
I also have both the Vocalizer voices addon from Tiflotecnia, though the
newest voices aren't currently available for it, and the Acapela voices
addon.

Hope this helps.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
Show Host and Production Director
The Global Voice Internet Radio
www.theglobalvoice.info

Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net
Business Site (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com
Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia


Re: new laptop

kelby carlson
 

I've had pretty decent luck with my Lenovo, though there will be some bloatware that comes with the PC you'll want to get rid of. (Basically anything in the programs list that starts with Lenovo can be uninstalled safely.) I've had mine for a year and it generally runs quite fast.

On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

aah ok.




On 4/25/2018 8:20 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
You probably need to talk to Jonathan Mosen then, he lives in NZ and has just been through a laptop purchase for his blind wife.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 7:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] new laptop


Hi.
As my toshiba is getting quite old I will be getting another laptop.
What should I avoid, what should I go for.
I have used asus boards and find them stable enough.
I have used an hp my aunt has and while there are enhancements to manage its stable enough.
People say stay away from dell because of its sound effects thingy and other things, and well lenovo aparently is quite good though never investigated that one.
Note, anything suggested must be able to be gotten in new zealand or at least have me have a shot at getting.
It will have win10 to.








Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Gene
 

It isn't odd, it is what is expected if you don't have Firefox set to always ask where to save files.  the PDF choice to save a file isn't what affects if you are asked.  It's the setting that determines behavior if you save anything.  The default is not to ask, but just to download to the downloads ffolder, which is what is happening.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

In that case I turned off open in pdf viewer and always download, but in
this case normally you should see a file name prompt so this  seems still a
little odd to me. The settings I think its something like programs in the
settings which you can set to do different things with file types.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA


It sounds to me as though the problem is that, for some reason, the PDF
viewer may not be opening.  I don't know why that might be.  I don't think
that following the link per se is the problem.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA


Oh, here's how I opened the link. I went to the brochures page, got down
to the brochures, highlighted a link, November 2014 or whatever with the
arrow keys, and pressed enter, specifically enter on the main keyboard.
I didn't touch the number pad in any of this. It didn't show up as being
in tables for me, but I have include layout tables unchecked.


On 4/24/2018 11:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
>
> Quentin,
>
> I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.
>
> When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site
> www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox
> opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the
> attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this
> page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables
> containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The
> brochure files are held on the website.
>
> When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am
> on the link and numpad  5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it.
> This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is
> that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!
>
> I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but
> JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.
>
> Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar,
> the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, …  All of these do nothing!
>
> Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and
> see if you are having the same trouble?
>
> All the best,
>
> Cearbhall
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>








Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Gene
 

That's good. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Gene,

 

Your step by step instructions were very helpful, thanks! I now have Adobe set as the application to use for viewing PDF files.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 12:59 AM
To: Gene <gsasner@...>; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

 

I don't know if you are seeing my messages since you haven't responded to any but you have to every other sender. 

 

To change the behavior, do the following.

Open tools, alt t, then o for options.

After options opens tab once.

Down arrow to applications.

Tab until you get to the search field.

Type pdf

Then tab and there will be a result.

It will tell you what your current choice is.  It will say list but you'll only see that item.

In the list up or down arrow to select that item.  Then tab once. 

You are in a combo box.  Up arrow to the choice you want, preview in Firefox.

This dialog doesn't have an ok button.  Settings take immediate effect.

 

Options is a web page that looks like a dialog.  Since you are actually on a web page that Firefox generates internally, do whatever you wannt from here in the same way as you would leave any web page, such as going to another page with a book mark, closing the browser, etc.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Gene

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:41 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

 

In this case, how would you tell Firefox to either download the PDF or open it in another program?  right clicking the link and using save link as might allow a download but there are sites where right clicking won't work so if the situation can't be corrected or another method is desired, it would be good to know how this is done. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Lino Morales

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

 

You are correct Gene it is built in. I hate it. I still use Adobe Reader DC.

 

Lino Morales

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:28:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

 

Firefox has a PDF reader.  I don't know if its built into the browser or if it's an add on but whatever it is, it is distributed as part of the browser.  Why yours doesn't work, I don't know. 

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

 

John,

I just tried that now that you described it but, no luck! I still got a blank screen when the link opened and no sign of adobe or any effort to display the pdf document.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Oh, here's how I opened the link. I went to the brochures page, got down to the brochures, highlighted a link, November 2014 or whatever with the arrow keys, and pressed enter, specifically enter on the main keyboard.
I didn't touch the number pad in any of this. It didn't show up as being in tables for me, but I have include layout tables unchecked.


On 4/24/2018 11:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
>
> Quentin,
>
> I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.
>
> When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site
> www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox
> opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the
> attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this
> page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables
> containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The
> brochure files are held on the website.
>
> When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am
> on the link and numpad  5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it.
> This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is
> that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!
>
> I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but
> JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.
>
> Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar,
> the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, …  All of these do nothing!
>
> Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and
> see if you are having the same trouble?
>
> All the best,
>
> Cearbhall
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
> cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>







Re: new laptop

 

aah ok.

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You probably need to talk to Jonathan Mosen then, he lives in NZ and has just been through a laptop purchase for his blind wife.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 7:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] new laptop


Hi.
As my toshiba is getting quite old I will be getting another laptop.
What should I avoid, what should I go for.
I have used asus boards and find them stable enough.
I have used an hp my aunt has and while there are enhancements to manage its stable enough.
People say stay away from dell because of its sound effects thingy and other things, and well lenovo aparently is quite good though never investigated that one.
Note, anything suggested must be able to be gotten in new zealand or at least have me have a shot at getting.
It will have win10 to.






Re: new laptop

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You probably need to talk to Jonathan Mosen then, he lives in NZ and has just been through a laptop purchase for his blind wife.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 7:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] new laptop


Hi.
As my toshiba is getting quite old I will be getting another laptop.
What should I avoid, what should I go for.
I have used asus boards and find them stable enough.
I have used an hp my aunt has and while there are enhancements to manage its stable enough.
People say stay away from dell because of its sound effects thingy and other things, and well lenovo aparently is quite good though never investigated that one.
Note, anything suggested must be able to be gotten in new zealand or at least have me have a shot at getting.
It will have win10 to.



Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

I hate adobi in general, so tried something different.

My solution, that actually worked really well, was to use the built in microsoft edge reader.

Works better than anything else I've used and don't need to download adobi garbage to use it.

It's a win win.

On 25-Apr-2018 3:15 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
In that case I turned off open in pdf viewer and always download, but in this case normally you should see a file name prompt so this  seems still a little odd to me. The settings I think its something like programs in the settings which you can set to do different things with file types.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA


It sounds to me as though the problem is that, for some reason, the PDF viewer may not be opening.  I don't know why that might be.  I don't think that following the link per se is the problem.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA


Oh, here's how I opened the link. I went to the brochures page, got down
to the brochures, highlighted a link, November 2014 or whatever with the
arrow keys, and pressed enter, specifically enter on the main keyboard.
I didn't touch the number pad in any of this. It didn't show up as being
in tables for me, but I have include layout tables unchecked.


On 4/24/2018 11:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Quentin,

I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.

When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site
www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox
opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the
attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this
page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables
containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The
brochure files are held on the website.

When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am
on the link and numpad  5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it.
This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is
that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!

I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but
JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.

Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar,
the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, …  All of these do nothing!

Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and
see if you are having the same trouble?

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie







Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

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In that case I turned off open in pdf viewer and always download, but in this case normally you should see a file name prompt so this seems still a little odd to me. The settings I think its something like programs in the settings which you can set to do different things with file types.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA


It sounds to me as though the problem is that, for some reason, the PDF viewer may not be opening. I don't know why that might be. I don't think that following the link per se is the problem.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA


Oh, here's how I opened the link. I went to the brochures page, got down
to the brochures, highlighted a link, November 2014 or whatever with the
arrow keys, and pressed enter, specifically enter on the main keyboard.
I didn't touch the number pad in any of this. It didn't show up as being
in tables for me, but I have include layout tables unchecked.


On 4/24/2018 11:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Quentin,

I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.

When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site
www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox
opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the
attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this
page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables
containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The
brochure files are held on the website.

When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am
on the link and numpad 5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it.
This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is
that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!

I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but
JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.

Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar,
the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, … All of these do nothing!

Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and
see if you are having the same trouble?

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie


Re: Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Firefox 59 Unusable with NVDA


Quentin,



I am using Firefox 59.0 64 bit in Windows 10 with latest NVDA.



When I use Firefox, I cannot open some links. If you try the web site www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> you will find that Firefox opens the links to the associated pages on the web site but not to the attached .PDF files. For example, open “Brochures Page”. When this page opens you will see that it is laid out in sets of HTML tables containing a link to a .pdf brochure in each cell of the table. The brochure files are held on the website.



When I press tab to get to any of these links, NVDA echoes that I am on the link and numpad 5 confirms this. I press space bar to open it. This has always worked up to last month but Now, all that happens is that Firefox opens a new tab with nothing in it!



I tried using JAWS to see if this was a problem for NVDA alone but JAWS was also unable to open the link so, I think it is a Firefox problem.



Does NVDA have another means of opening a link besides the space bar, the application key, numpad * or numpad enter, … All of these do nothing!



Would you try the link www.brayarts.net <http://www.brayarts.net> and see if you are having the same trouble?





All the best,



Cearbhall



m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie