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Re: Screen Curtain Feature

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Also of course this is not available in anything but the latest builds of 10, and many people don't even use 10.. cough.
 I'm actually writing this in XP at the moment.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature

Hi,

At the moment NVDA does not offer this feature, but some folks are investigating this.

The Narrator command is not really a screen curtain, as it is meant to let developers test their apps by simulating what would happen if a blind user was to use an app. This is done by making the screen black while highlighting the control the user is located at.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Rhodes
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:22 AM
To: NVDA Users Group <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature

 

Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.

 


Re: Screen Curtain Feature

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No this has been debated before. I think this will rely on Windows offering such a mode as without the screen how can you have a screenreader. Its all down to where the curtain is inserted and Windows now is so locked down that trying to cludge something in from outside is not really a good thing to try!
I'm sure somebody here might know where this discussion is, as I can remember it but did not bother as I just don't use a monitor!
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:22 PM
Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature

Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.

 


Re: Imaging software accessible with NVDA

 

how do you use drivesnap shots pe invirement?

the only blind friendly pe invirement is the talking windows ones does drive snapshot has a talking pe?

On 4/27/2018 4:02 AM, Aman Singer wrote:
Hi,

Drive Snapshot works well, and is accessible both from Windows and
from the various PE environments
http://www.drivesnapshot.de
HTH,
Aman


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg
Wocher
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

Hello all,
I am getting ready to replace the hard drive onan older laptop with an SSD.
What imaging software is accessible with NVDA so I can move the OS from the
old hard drive to the new one?

Regards,
Greg Wocher







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Re: Screen Curtain Feature

 

Hi,

At the moment NVDA does not offer this feature, but some folks are investigating this.

The Narrator command is not really a screen curtain, as it is meant to let developers test their apps by simulating what would happen if a blind user was to use an app. This is done by making the screen black while highlighting the control the user is located at.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Rhodes
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:22 AM
To: NVDA Users Group <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature

 

Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.

 


Screen Curtain Feature

Greg Rhodes <gkrhodes@...>
 

Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.

 


Re: NVDA triggers

Gene
 

If that is the case, the screen saver could be set not to run.  I'm skeptical, but we'll see.  I don't think screen savers respond to programs doing anything.  I believe they only disappear when someone takes an action to input data from the keyboard or from a touch screen.  NVDA doesn't change anything on the screen and it doesn't input any data. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA triggers

Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Regarding the title bar problem, I don't know why it's happening and I wouldn't be optimistic about getting an answer.  I would treat it symptomatically.

My guess is a screen saver or other similar program popping up. When it pops up, NVDA registers a screen change, but a screen saver doesn't actually display something which it can read. The computer shows activity (NVDA triggering) and the screen saver goes away, bringing focus back to the app, causing NVDA to read the title bar.




Re: NVDA triggers

Rob Hudson
 

Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Regarding the title bar problem, I don't know why it's happening and I wouldn't be optimistic about getting an answer. I would treat it symptomatically.
My guess is a screen saver or other similar program popping up. When it pops up, NVDA registers a screen change, but a screen saver doesn't actually display something which it can read. The computer shows activity (NVDA triggering) and the screen saver goes away, bringing focus back to the app, causing NVDA to read the title bar.


Re: NVDA triggers

Gene
 

Regarding the title bar problem, I don't know why it's happening and I wouldn't be optimistic about getting an answer.  I would treat it symptomatically.  when you start to use Winamp and you aren't going to be doing anything else, turn off speech.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA triggers

Hello all,

I have two separate but related questions concerning when NVDA gets triggered to say something.

First: I have DropBox installed on my laptop and my tablet. Sometimes I have both devices turned on at once.

If I am using the tablet device to work on a file and I save it into the DropBox folder, my laptop does not say anything about the file being added to DropBox. If I am working on the laptop and save a file into the DropBox the tablet device says that whichever file I've added has been added to DropBox.

I'd like to turn that setting on for my laptop too but can't figure out which setting it is.

Second: Often, somewhere between 3 to 5 mins after not interracting with a program NVDA reads the titlebar of the program. It annoys me most when I'm listening to a film in WinAmp and NVDA will say the title of the film at some point in that 3 to 5 minute time delay. I've tried to figure out exactly what time it takes for this to be triggered, but it doesn't seem to follow any specific time — sometimes nothing at all gets spoken. WinAmp is the most frequent program notice this with, mainly because that is when I am most likely to sit listening without pressing a key on my keyboard to do something else.

Other times I notice it occur if I've been on a webpage in Firefox and stepped away to do something else, and the webpage title and a little bit of text (such as if I'm in my gmail inbox, NVDA will say, “Gmail - Inbox - Mozilla Firefox, Gmail - Inbox document selected Search Images Maps Play YouTube News Gmail Drive More”)

Where I'd like to turn the DropBox announcement on, I'd like to turn the titlebar notifications off. Is it possible to do both? I don't notice this titlebar speech happening on the tablet device and I do have that running for minutes at a time without any interraction, such as this morning when it was on for at least an hour with a notepad file titled blank.txt open but without me touching keyboard or screen even once.

Grateful for any thoughts :)

Giles


NVDA triggers

Giles Turnbull
 

Hello all,

I have two separate but related questions concerning when NVDA gets triggered to say something.

First: I have DropBox installed on my laptop and my tablet. Sometimes I have both devices turned on at once.

If I am using the tablet device to work on a file and I save it into the DropBox folder, my laptop does not say anything about the file being added to DropBox. If I am working on the laptop and save a file into the DropBox the tablet device says that whichever file I've added has been added to DropBox.

I'd like to turn that setting on for my laptop too but can't figure out which setting it is.

Second: Often, somewhere between 3 to 5 mins after not interracting with a program NVDA reads the titlebar of the program. It annoys me most when I'm listening to a film in WinAmp and NVDA will say the title of the film at some point in that 3 to 5 minute time delay. I've tried to figure out exactly what time it takes for this to be triggered, but it doesn't seem to follow any specific time — sometimes nothing at all gets spoken. WinAmp is the most frequent program notice this with, mainly because that is when I am most likely to sit listening without pressing a key on my keyboard to do something else.

Other times I notice it occur if I've been on a webpage in Firefox and stepped away to do something else, and the webpage title and a little bit of text (such as if I'm in my gmail inbox, NVDA will say, “Gmail - Inbox - Mozilla Firefox, Gmail - Inbox document selected Search Images Maps Play YouTube News Gmail Drive More”)

Where I'd like to turn the DropBox announcement on, I'd like to turn the titlebar notifications off. Is it possible to do both? I don't notice this titlebar speech happening on the tablet device and I do have that running for minutes at a time without any interraction, such as this morning when it was on for at least an hour with a notepad file titled blank.txt open but without me touching keyboard or screen even once.

Grateful for any thoughts :)

Giles


Labelling edit boxes and other controls for use with NVDA

Joshua Tubbs
 

Hello everyone,

Is it possible to label edit boxes and other controls within apps to read the labels?

A perfect example of this is in both versions of VipMud, the edit boxes for adding/editing MUD details do not read. You can use context-sensitive clues to figure out what goes there, but otherwise NVDA just says “Edit”. Jaws reads these just fine and can also figure out labels for other apps if not labeled by default.

If there isn’t a solution for this, my hope is that David fixes this in the next version of VipMud.

There are also other apps I’d like to label, or if I can’t, be able to tell the developers what is going on so they can work on getting a fix out.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Re: Imaging software accessible with NVDA

Aman Singer
 

Hi,

Drive Snapshot works well, and is accessible both from Windows and
from the various PE environments
http://www.drivesnapshot.de
HTH,
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg
Wocher
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

Hello all,
I am getting ready to replace the hard drive onan older laptop with an SSD.
What imaging software is accessible with NVDA so I can move the OS from the
old hard drive to the new one?

Regards,
Greg Wocher


Re: Imaging software accessible with NVDA

Rob Hudson
 

Greg Wocher <gwocher@gwocher.com> wrote:
I am getting ready to replace the hard drive onan older laptop with an SSD. What imaging software is accessible with NVDA so I can move the OS from the old hard drive to the new one?

Try Active@ Disk Image Lite:
http://www.disk-image.com/disk-image-freeware.htm


Imaging software accessible with NVDA

Greg Wocher
 

Hello all,
I am getting ready to replace the hard drive onan older laptop with an SSD. What imaging software is accessible with NVDA so I can move the OS from the old hard drive to the new one?

Regards,
Greg Wocher


Re: skype 7 with n v d a

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Not quite sure why the spl thread is parto f this new thread.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] skype 7 with n v d a


hi all
i am using skype classic
skype 7
with NVDA
also using an addon with it
but NVDAis not reading the messages with alt 1
could u all help?
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Massey
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL Studio and WintenApps 18.05 released #AddonRelease


My update interval in days is seven. The channel is set to stable. Truth be told, I really never concerned myself with the interval or channel.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groupsio> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL Studio and WintenApps 18.05 released #AddonRelease



Hi,

And what is your update interval in days and which channel are you subscribed to?

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Massey
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL Studio and WintenApps 18.05 released #AddonRelease



The item to check for updates is indeed checked Sometimes the feature works and sometimes it doesn't.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL Studio and WintenApps 18.05 released #AddonRelease



Hi,

Is the add-on told not to check for updates? To check that, go to NVDA Menu/Preferences/Windows 10 App Essentials and see if the update checkbox is checked.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Massey
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL Studio and WintenApps 18.05 released #AddonRelease



In the e-mail, it is indicated that you don't have to click on the links above to update the add-ons. The only add-on I use is Windows 10 App Essentials. But when I highlight the Nvda shortcut to launch Nvda, the program opens but the add-on is not displayed so I can answer yes that I wish to download the add-on. Why won't the automatic detection feature work? Thank you.



Michael Massey


Re: SPL Studio and WintenApps 18.05 released #addonrelease

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It came through here OK buts I've said before at times mail lists gets delayed or out of sequence messages occur. Not sure why but it can make one either reply to something already answered or reply several times.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Massey" <massey52@q.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL Studio and WintenApps 18.05 released #AddonRelease


I don't think my reply was received so I'm sending it again. The check for
updates in the preferences menu is indeed checked. Sometimes the feature
works and sometimes it doesn't.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL Studio and WintenApps 18.05 released #AddonRelease



Hi,

Is the add-on told not to check for updates? To check that, go to NVDA
Menu/Preferences/Windows 10 App Essentials and see if the update checkbox is
checked.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Massey
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL Studio and WintenApps 18.05 released #AddonRelease



In the e-mail, it is indicated that you don't have to click on the links
above to update the add-ons. The only add-on I use is Windows 10 App
Essentials. But when I highlight the Nvda shortcut to launch Nvda, the
program opens but the add-on is not displayed so I can answer yes that I
wish to download the add-on. Why won't the automatic detection feature
work? Thank you.



Michael Massey




Re: Pandora & Windows 10

David Moore
 

Hi!

I listen to Pandora a lot, right from the following web site:

www.pandora.com

It is very easy to navigate with headings and such, and you can create radio stations and all right on the web site.

I use it for free and really love just getting on that Pandora web site.

NVDA will work great with that site with Google Chrome and MS Edge very well, and Okay with Firefox and IE, but not as good.

Take care, and if I can be of help with NVDA for you, please let me know!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Carla Laesch Etheredge
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:31 PM
To: NVDA Group
Subject: [nvda] Pandora & Windows 10

 

Hi everyone,

 

I'm a new user of NVDA. I have previously been a Jaws user, so it's been

an interesting transition to NVDA, but so far I like it. I'm wondering,

on my previous computer running Windows 7, I used to use the program

called Hope to listen to Pandora. I'm wondering if this program is still

around, and if so is it accessible using NVDA and Windows 10? I recently

got a new computer, so I don't have the program to install it and try.

If it's not, does anyone know of any other programs or ways to listen to

Pandora while on the computer? Thanks in advance.

 

 

--

Carla Kay Etheredge

cklaesch.etheredge@...

 

 

 

 


Re: new laptop

David Moore
 

Hi,

The HP Stream that I have is what you want.

It is 6 inches wide, 7 inches deep, and an inch thick. Now, here is the miracle. It has two Gig of ram, and a 32 Gig SSD drive.

However, it has a slot for a micro SD card, and I have one in there that is 128 Gigs.

This thing flies so fast, a program launches in a second.

Here is all I have installed.

Windows 10, JAWS, NVDA, over 20 NVDA add ons, Malware Bytes, Dropbox app, pCloud Drive app, Back up and sync app, I use One Drive, Games are installed, just card games from Jim Kitchen, I have all Windows 10 apps, Skype, and more. Even with the two Gig of ram, and the 32 Gig SSD drive, I have four or more programs running at one time, and this baby still runs like a top. There is no numpad to mess with, The key board is very squeezed together which allows me to type 80 words a minute, because I do not have to reach for the numpad. This baby only weighs less than a pound. I said two pounds on another post, but it is just a little under a pound. I carry it everywhere under my arm. It is like a small note taker. I use this awesome baby for every job that I use my much more powerful and huge Asus laptop to do.

It is called an HP Stream netbook, and it is supposed to be made as efficient

As it can be.

I would really recommend it for much work, play, and even playing some slow games.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new laptop

 

Well all my units have been 15.6-17 inch, I wouldn't be going bigger

than 15.6, sure if a 13 supported duel drives sure but well hmmm.

 

That is a concern if the apps on the lenovo are not as accessible as one

would like though realistically all I would need would be the units

serial number or whatever service number I need to update the thing.

 

I know dell does allow autodetection of the units as does hp.

 

Something betwene a gaming which is huge and heavy to a smaller unit,

anything from 1.8 through 2.6 which is about what I have now in weight

is fine.

 

I plan to do all my work, gaming, and entertainment on the unit I choose

so it needs a bit of everything.

 

What are the sound effects and enhancements like on the lenovo.

 

The keyboard does give me some pause I can deal with a few things but if

I have to swap the board about with keys if I ever need to use the unit

without my external board, well it depends what is where.

 

 

 

 

On 4/27/2018 9:41 AM, valiant8086 wrote:

> Hi.

> At least on my Yoga2pro, the bloat is mostly in the form of small uwp

> apps, nonobtrusive. Some of them are useful, and not all that screen

> reader friendly, like Lenovo Software Update, which maintains the

> drivers and such. Lenovo uses the function key row for action keys by

> default you have to change it. FN escape will toggle it, but that may

> be temporary. A permanent fix that sticks across reboots may arive if

> you update the bios and hit fn+escape again, or if that still doesn't

> work, just using sighted assistance and turning the media keys into

> function keys directly in the bios will work. Sometimes keys aren't

> where they ought to be. Lenovo Yoga920 for instance, Yoga720, don't

> have context keys at least not in the proper place between right alt

> and right control. Keys will need remapping to get them to do things

> one is used to like for instance if the insert key is in the wrong

> place, may be able to remap it with what ever is to the left of

> delete, possibly print screen. I've got 30000 hours of runtime on my

> Yoga2pro with some button swaps applied and all is well. The keyboard

> is physically at end of life, but my print screen or what ever it is

> has happily been function as an insert key for all these years with no

> trouble.

> You might need USB type A ports, so ensure that you're going to be

> getting those and won't be left with only USB c and thunderbolt ports,

> that's common now.

> Do you want a little ultrabook or would a slightly fatter laptop with

> just a 13 inch screen work or what.

> As far as I can tell currently in terms of hardware performance Yoga's

> winner in the ultrabook field is Thinkpad t480s, and there's a small

> chance I'll be buying one soon. If you have a model you're interested

> in and want to geek out with benchmarks, hardware reviews and such try

> googling something like this

> notebookcheck.net dell xps13 2 in 1

> notebookcheck.net Lenovo T480s

> and of course, availability is a factor. I would guess that Lenovo and

> Asus both would be available in some form or another.

> Cheers:

> Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy

> Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -

> http://valiantGalaxy.com"

> <Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

> On 4/25/2018 4:25 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

>> AAh ok, is any of that extra lenovo stuff any good though.

>> 

>> For example, on my old toshiba I kept all of the extras mostly till

>> it exited support then cannd it all because it was not of use.

>> 

>> On the hp I had bar office mcafee and some games I kept most of it as

>> I used the support hub a lot and it had some use.

>> 

>> After all the issues with the cyberlink stuff and my dvd drive on

>> another system weather I keep that on on my new box would be a

>> different matter I'd probably keep it but not use it.

>> 

>> As for lenovo, I think I would look at it first and see if it was any

>> used to me before I killed it all and at least looked what use it had.

>> 

>> Some of it I'd probably get rid of though.

>> 

>> Not everything is bloat if you have a use for it.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On 4/26/2018 12:52 AM, kelby carlson wrote:

>>> I've had pretty decent luck with my Lenovo, though there will be

>>> some bloatware that comes with the PC you'll want to get rid of.

>>> (Basically anything in the programs list that starts with Lenovo can

>>> be uninstalled safely.) I've had mine for a year and it generally

>>> runs quite fast.

>>>> On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...>

>>>> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> aah ok.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>>> On 4/25/2018 8:20 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

>>>>> You probably need to talk to Jonathan Mosen then, he lives in NZ

>>>>> and has just been through a laptop purchase for his blind wife.

>>>>> Brian

>>>>> 

>>>>> bglists@...

>>>>> Sent via blueyonder.

>>>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-

>>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

>>>>> in the display name field.

>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss"

>>>>> <sm.everiss@...>

>>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 7:53 AM

>>>>> Subject: [nvda] new laptop

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>>> Hi.

>>>>>> As my toshiba is getting quite old I will be getting another laptop.

>>>>>> What should I avoid, what should I go for.

>>>>>> I have used asus boards and find them stable enough.

>>>>>> I have used an hp my aunt has and while there are enhancements to

>>>>>> manage its stable enough.

>>>>>> People say stay away from dell because of its sound effects

>>>>>> thingy and other things, and well lenovo aparently is quite good

>>>>>> though never investigated that one.

>>>>>> Note, anything suggested must be able to be gotten in new zealand

>>>>>> or at least have me have a shot at getting.

>>>>>> It will have win10 to.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 


Re: Ask about using word 2010 with NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi there,

Yes, there are commands for all of those things.  I would suggest the "Microsoft Word with NVDA" training material as a good resource to learn not only those functions but many more: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 1:34 PM, <prem.translator@...> wrote:
Dear all listers. 
I'm teaching writing skill, and students send me word document in .docx, I open it with MS Word 2010. I don't know much about using some function. So, I've questions. 
1. Are there any shortcut to do following things? 
- switching between comment or footnote frame and the main document. 
- Turning on and off track changes / editor revision. 
2. How to comment and giving footnote to spesific part of document for example a sentence or a phrase? 
 
Thank you. 




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Re: new laptop

 

Well all my units have been 15.6-17 inch, I wouldn't be going bigger than 15.6, sure if a 13 supported duel drives sure but well hmmm.

That is a concern if the apps on the lenovo are not as accessible as one would like though realistically all I would need would be the units serial number or whatever service number I need to update the thing.

I know dell does allow autodetection of the units as does hp.

Something betwene a gaming which is huge and heavy to a smaller unit, anything from 1.8 through 2.6 which is about what I have now in weight is fine.

I plan to do all my work, gaming, and entertainment on the unit I choose so it needs a bit of everything.

What are the sound effects and enhancements like on the lenovo.

The keyboard does give me some pause I can deal with a few things but if I have to swap the board about with keys if I ever need to use the unit without my external board, well it depends what is where.

On 4/27/2018 9:41 AM, valiant8086 wrote:
Hi.


At least on my Yoga2pro, the bloat is mostly in the form of small uwp apps, nonobtrusive. Some of them are useful, and not all that screen reader friendly, like Lenovo Software Update, which maintains the drivers and such. Lenovo uses the function key row for action keys by default you have to change it. FN escape will toggle it, but that may be temporary. A permanent fix that sticks across reboots may arive if you update the bios and hit fn+escape again, or if that still doesn't work, just using sighted assistance and turning the media keys into function keys directly in the bios will work. Sometimes keys aren't where they ought to be. Lenovo Yoga920 for instance, Yoga720, don't have context keys at least not in the proper place between right alt and right control. Keys will need remapping to get them to do things one is used to like for instance if the insert key is in the wrong place, may be able to remap it with what ever is to the left of delete, possibly print screen. I've got 30000 hours of runtime on my Yoga2pro with some button swaps applied and all is well. The keyboard is physically at end of life, but my print screen or what ever it is has happily been function as an insert key for all these years with no trouble.


You might need USB type A ports, so ensure that you're going to be getting those and won't be left with only USB c and thunderbolt ports, that's common now.


Do you want a little ultrabook or would a slightly fatter laptop with just a 13 inch screen work or what.


As far as I can tell currently in terms of hardware performance Yoga's winner in the ultrabook field is Thinkpad t480s, and there's a small chance I'll be buying one soon. If you have a model you're interested in and want to geek out with benchmarks, hardware reviews and such try googling something like this

notebookcheck.net dell xps13 2 in 1

notebookcheck.net Lenovo T480s

and of course, availability is a factor. I would guess that Lenovo and Asus both would be available in some form or another.


Cheers:

Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

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On 4/25/2018 4:25 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
AAh ok, is any of that extra lenovo stuff any good though.

For example, on my old toshiba I kept all of the extras mostly till it exited support then cannd it all because it was not of use.

On the hp I had bar office mcafee and some games I kept most of it as I used the support hub a lot and it had some use.

After all the issues with the cyberlink stuff and my dvd drive on another system weather I keep that on on my new box would be a different matter I'd probably keep it but not use it.

As for lenovo, I think I would look at it first and see if it was any used to me before I killed it all and at least looked what use it had.

Some of it I'd probably get rid of though.

Not everything is bloat if you have a use for it.




On 4/26/2018 12:52 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
I've had pretty decent luck with my Lenovo, though there will be some bloatware that comes with the PC you'll want to get rid of. (Basically anything in the programs list that starts with Lenovo can be uninstalled safely.) I've had mine for a year and it generally runs quite fast.
On Apr 25, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

aah ok.




On 4/25/2018 8:20 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
You probably need to talk to Jonathan Mosen then, he lives in NZ and has just been through a laptop purchase for his blind wife.
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Hi.
As my toshiba is getting quite old I will be getting another laptop.
What should I avoid, what should I go for.
I have used asus boards and find them stable enough.
I have used an hp my aunt has and while there are enhancements to manage its stable enough.
People say stay away from dell because of its sound effects thingy and other things, and well lenovo aparently is quite good though never investigated that one.
Note, anything suggested must be able to be gotten in new zealand or at least have me have a shot at getting.
It will have win10 to.











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