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Re: what can i do please help

Gene
 

Also, I don't know anything about the brand of numpad being used.  I'd try others if possible.  This sounds to me as though it’s a problem with the numpad not being compatible.  Are there any electronic stores near you where you can test different ones? 
 
Also, you may get an answer about the fn key but it may be necessary to look at the manual.  You may be able to find it online if it isn't available on your computer.  I don't know if Dell support might provide the information. 
 
Gene
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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] what can i do please help

Hi
I think you need to switch keyboard layout to Desktop if you have a numpad connected.  You say the digits work with numlock off but surely numlock needs to be on for the digits to work and numlock needs to be off for keys to operate NVDA.  Also check that the "use insert key as an NVDA modifier" is checked.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: 28 April 2018 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to
navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound,
screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen
with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left
mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter








Re: what can i do please help

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
I think you need to switch keyboard layout to Desktop if you have a numpad connected. You say the digits work with numlock off but surely numlock needs to be on for the digits to work and numlock needs to be off for keys to operate NVDA. Also check that the "use insert key as an NVDA modifier" is checked.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: 28 April 2018 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to
navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound,
screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen
with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left
mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter


Re: Ask about using word 2010 with NVDA

The Gamages
 

Hello Brian,
I know the company you mention, they are good at selling things, but you might as well ask in your local, pet shop for answers to anything else. However, the screen reader you mention does support Office 2010 and other versions, it’s just the Company in question don’t want to answer technical questions, to be fair, their after sales service for the expensive screen reader is adequate, if it gets too technical they will point you elsewhere.
Long live NVDA!!!
 
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Ask about using word 2010 with NVDA
 
As an aside, I was appalled the other day when a friend told me he was using office 2010, and the supplier of the most expensive screenreader in the UK told him, sorry we no longer support any version of office except 365. I know what Id have told the guy if it were me..
 
I'll not name the company but lets just say its named after a couple of common senses people have but we lack one of.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Ask about using word 2010 with NVDA
 
Hi there,
 
Yes, there are commands for all of those things.  I would suggest the "Microsoft Word with NVDA" training material as a good resource to learn not only those functions but many more: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 1:34 PM, <prem.translator@...> wrote:
Dear all listers.
I'm teaching writing skill, and students send me word document in .docx, I open it with MS Word 2010. I don't know much about using some function. So, I've questions.
1. Are there any shortcut to do following things?
- switching between comment or footnote frame and the main document.
- Turning on and off track changes / editor revision.
2. How to comment and giving footnote to spesific part of document for example a sentence or a phrase?
 
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Re: Imaging software accessible with NVDA

David Griffith
 

Normally with Drive snapshot  there is no need for a talking environment.

When I have used Drive Snapshot in the past it simply works from withing Windows.

Basically you back up your image withing windows.

Then to restore your image you again from within Windows select the drive you want to restore to and then Windows will reboot and Drive napshot will restore the image you have selected and then reboot into that image of windows automatically.

So really it is just a case of waiting for NVDA to start up with the login prompt to alert you that the restore image process has completed.

Of course if you have a catastrophic  failure and cannot get  into any version of windows there is a problem.

The developers provide a CD rom image for booting if necessary and they did provide me with a set of instructions of what to type to restore an image – it was not that complicated but there is no talking feedback.

Personally I resigned myself to seeking sighted help if this was a problem.

David Griffith

 

 

 

 

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From: The Wolf
Sent: 27 April 2018 19:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

 

how do you use drivesnap shots pe invirement?

 

the only blind friendly pe invirement is the talking windows ones does

drive snapshot has a talking pe?

 

 

 

On 4/27/2018 4:02 AM, Aman Singer wrote:

> Hi,

>             Drive Snapshot works well, and is accessible both from Windows and

> from the various PE environments

> http://www.drivesnapshot.de

> HTH,

> Aman

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg

> Wocher

> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:55 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

> Hello all,

> I am getting ready to replace the hard drive onan older laptop with an SSD.

> What imaging software is accessible with NVDA so I can move the OS from the

> old hard drive to the new one?

> Regards,

> Greg Wocher

>

 

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Re: Screen Curtain Feature

 

Hello all,

Brian, it is not black text on a black background. It is some sort of an overlay, if I understand it correctly. A full screen black window on top of other windows, if you will.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


На 28.4.2018 г. в 11:20, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io написа:

So is this the old black text on a black background thing. Black cat in a coal cellar so to speak. I know this approach works as some web sites include secret text written in the paper colour either deliberately or by accident. I'd have thought though that this might need some way to intercept the video driver.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


Hello all,


Brian, JAWS got this feature implemented recently. And do you know how they did it? It is very clever and at the same time - very simple, actually. At least it is, according to my observations and knowledge on the matter. From a visual point of view, it looks like a full screen black background, like the one you would see on a video player playing in full screen mode and displaying a black image. The mouse cursor was also visible, at least the last time I tried it. So, Freedom Scientific are using a functionality present on Windows for ages, actually - nothing new or groundbreaking. As far as I know, this technology is used by some games and video players to display their content in full screen mode. The thing is, that the method used can only work as a screen curtain only, and not as a power saver, since it does not (and as far as I know - it cannot) turn off the screen - it only displays a black background over the whole screen displayed on the monitor.


______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev



На 27.4.2018 г. в 22:47, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io написа:

 No this has been debated before. I think this will rely on Windows offering such a mode as without the screen how can you have a screenreader. Its all down to where the curtain is inserted and Windows now is so locked down that trying to cludge something in from outside is not really a good thing to try!
 I'm sure somebody here might know where this discussion is, as I can remember it but did not bother as I just don't use a monitor!
 Brian

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   Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


   Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.

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Re: what can i do please help

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Use the laptop layout or buy a numeric keypad?
Have we not had this issue before. its precisely why if I get a new laptop not only do I want the function keys to be defaulted to function keys, but I want a keypad as well.
I have an old dell without one and got so peed off I eventually plugged in a keyboard.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 8:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help


hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound, screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter



Re: Screen Curtain Feature

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I think those who ask for this are talking laptops really and that is the problem mentioned. you really would like to turn off the monitor completely in software to emulate what we do on a desktop with a button or not even connect one.
That is not possible.
Maybe its something that can be designed into hardware, but I'd not expect mainstream companies to do this unless its as a power saving feature when streaming audio.
Brian

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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


Well you don't need a screen to have a screen reader.

You need a graphics chip to have a screen reader but weather you need to have it connected to anything is another thing.

You do need a sound card and a graphics chip else all those desktops I service I would have toh ave a screen.

Its true if you have to deal with the mouse or graphical software that doesn't play nice with your graphics to translation text viewing reading software, then sure.

But you don't need a screen as such.




On 4/28/2018 7:47 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No this has been debated before. I think this will rely on Windows offering such a mode as without the screen how can you have a screenreader. Its all down to where the curtain is inserted and Windows now is so locked down that trying to cludge something in from outside is not really a good thing to try!
I'm sure somebody here might know where this discussion is, as I can remember it but did not bother as I just don't use a monitor!
Brian

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To: NVDA Users Group
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:22 PM
Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.




Re: Screen Curtain Feature

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So is this the old black text on a black background thing. Black cat in a coal cellar so to speak. I know this approach works as some web sites include secret text written in the paper colour either deliberately or by accident. I'd have thought though that this might need some way to intercept the video driver.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


Hello all,


Brian, JAWS got this feature implemented recently. And do you know how they did it? It is very clever and at the same time - very simple, actually. At least it is, according to my observations and knowledge on the matter. From a visual point of view, it looks like a full screen black background, like the one you would see on a video player playing in full screen mode and displaying a black image. The mouse cursor was also visible, at least the last time I tried it. So, Freedom Scientific are using a functionality present on Windows for ages, actually - nothing new or groundbreaking. As far as I know, this technology is used by some games and video players to display their content in full screen mode. The thing is, that the method used can only work as a screen curtain only, and not as a power saver, since it does not (and as far as I know - it cannot) turn off the screen - it only displays a black background over the whole screen displayed on the monitor.


______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev



На 27.4.2018 г. в 22:47, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io написа:

No this has been debated before. I think this will rely on Windows offering such a mode as without the screen how can you have a screenreader. Its all down to where the curtain is inserted and Windows now is so locked down that trying to cludge something in from outside is not really a good thing to try!
I'm sure somebody here might know where this discussion is, as I can remember it but did not bother as I just don't use a monitor!
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Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.

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Re: what can i do please help

Chris
 

Is single letter navigation turned on?

 

To toggle its nvda+shift+space

 

See if that helps

 

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 28 April 2018 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

 

hello all,

i've a problem with my laptop.

it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.

it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.

most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to

navigate around the screen with nvda.

but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound,

screen, etc with fn key is pressed.

what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen

with nvda.

there is also no numlock key.

 

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.

the digits are working correct with numlock off.

but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left

mouse click and a right mouse click.

but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

 

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?

is there a way to solve this problem?

i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.

thanks in advance!

paul otter

 

 

 

 


what can i do please help

P. Otter
 

hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound, screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter


Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Adriani


I have just added a link to the google translate page for other languages on the main web page.

You can jump down by letter H to its heading then go down to the link then press the enter key where it will take you to another page.


For some reason i could not put in a plug in to do it and it wanted it on every page so have gone down this other route. There is a heading that says some thing like translate this website to another language and a link to the translate page. The default language is english and the website main page is already in the edit section to translate. it is then a matter of changing it to another language then having it translate to it. Just after the language combo box you want it to go to is where you can read it in another language. it also seems if you click on one of the links the next page is also translated but only on that page i have it pointing to off my website.

You will see what i mean when it is translated.




it may help? for people where english is not there first language like mine.


Not sure if the steps on what to do is enough or should i add a little more or hopefully it is clear enough on what to do.


Gene nz




On 4/13/2018 5:41 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Gene,

 

thank you for your great job. This is very important for the whole community. I have forwarded your links to the german community and in the translations group.

 

I hope I will find some time during next week to provide you some suggestions.

 

I propose to split the related sources in “development sources” and “user specific sources”. In this way we could add links to github and bitbucket as well.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 10:10
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen reader related resources off the main website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web pages on my website that point to that page.

I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.
These can be changed  or added to.

Gene nz
 

On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Adriani

 

Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources  which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda blogs? about using nvda? Not quite sure of other sections if i do and would be more a point to page but not jeffs one.

Even though he had a good site.

 

I am guessing we do  have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc but not in the one place.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Gene,

 

thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph’s new tutorials set “welcome to NVDA 2018” can be included as well?

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2018 03:21
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

 

I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.

 

Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do it the other way that was posted.

 

I have not any XP machines here now to test with.

 

The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Hello,

 

we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well and it works perfectly. NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this file:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. März 2018 19:47
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi

 

the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541

 

You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.

 

So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to fix the problem.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:

hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.
how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?
does it have solution for users of xp?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!
 
On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
HI guys
 
Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
 
RECENTLY UPDATED:
 
 
Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.
 
Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which
has been updated for 2018.1
 
Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and
product reviews page
http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html
 
NEW:
 
Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA
tutorials for other programs page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html
as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.
 
Gene NZ
 
On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Gene NZ!
Thanks so much for what you do for us!
God bless!
David Moore
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From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
 
 
Hi guys
 
Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages
 
New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with
the NVDA screen reader by Hareth  and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page
under the troubleshooting section
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a
tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA
tutorials learning the basics page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html
Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the
keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html
 
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at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
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People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
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multilanguage speech one core voices

amir din
 

Hi,

I am using nvda with speech one core voices on win10. I have installed several voices for this speech synthesizer, in different languages. I am using Arabic  as my windows default language, but sometimes I wil encounter English words written in a b c d e, so I want to make the speech synthesizer switch to English voice when it detects a b c d e, and switch back to Arabic voice when it encounters Arabic text?

 

If it is not available on current nvda, I think it should be added.

 

 

 

 

Dihantar dari Mel untuk Windows 10

 


Re: Screen Curtain Feature

 

Well you don't need a screen to have a screen reader.

You need a graphics chip to have a screen reader but weather you need to have it connected to anything is another thing.

You do need a sound card and a graphics chip else all those desktops I service I would have toh ave a screen.

Its true if you have to deal with the mouse or graphical software that doesn't play nice with your graphics to translation text viewing reading software, then sure.

But you don't need a screen as such.

On 4/28/2018 7:47 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No this has been debated before. I think this will rely on Windows offering such a mode as without the screen how can you have a screenreader. Its all down to where the curtain is inserted and Windows now is so locked down that trying to cludge something in from outside is not really a good thing to try!
I'm sure somebody here might know where this discussion is, as I can remember it but did not bother as I just don't use a monitor!
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.



Re: Imaging software accessible with NVDA

Aman Singer
 

Hi,

Drive Snapshot is a portable application, Just copy it to a USB drive and use it with the PE environment of your choice (the talking one, the one in newer versions of Windows 10, etc). It works both with narrator and NVDA.
HTH,
Aman

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 2:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

how do you use drivesnap shots pe invirement?

the only blind friendly pe invirement is the talking windows ones does drive snapshot has a talking pe?



On 4/27/2018 4:02 AM, Aman Singer wrote:
Hi,

Drive Snapshot works well, and is accessible both from Windows and
from the various PE environments
http://www.drivesnapshot.de
HTH,
Aman


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg
Wocher
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

Hello all,
I am getting ready to replace the hard drive onan older laptop with an SSD.
What imaging software is accessible with NVDA so I can move the OS from the
old hard drive to the new one?

Regards,
Greg Wocher








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Re: Handy Tech Active Star 40: gets just recognized after switching to pc mode

Simon Eigeldinger
 

Hi Felix,

Well what it basically does is it shows usb-device selected on the display.
well the german version of it but that should be the same at your place.
when i select pc-mode works fine.
sometimes i need to restart nvda.

it also works fine when the start up mode is set to pc mode.
that also works.
but when its selected to main menu which is the default the display is just showing usb-device selected.


NVDA though shows in the log that the driver has found the device.

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (22:46:47.908):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (22:46:47.908):
Using liblouis version 3.5.0
INFO - brailleDisplayDrivers.handyTech.BrailleDisplayDriver.__init__ (22:46:47.924):
Found Active Star 40 connected via USB HID (\\?\hid#vid_1fe4&pid_0064&mi_00#7&c60a76f&0&0000#{4d1e55b2-f16f-11cf-88cb-001111000030})
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (22:46:47.924):
Loaded braille display driver handyTech, current display has 40 cells.



Greetings,
Simon



Am 25.04.2018 um 07:29 schrieb Felix G.:

Hello Simon,
do you mean not recognized, or not Brailling?
In other words: At the point when you think it hasn't been recognized, can
you please switch to pc mode for me and report what happens?
Best,
Felix
2018-04-24 21:08 GMT+02:00 Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at>:

Hi,

I have a Handy Tech Active Star 40.
I am running the latest NVDA Next 15060 but that also happened on NVDA
2018.1.
When the braille display is turned on and NVDA starts then the display
seems not to be recognized when the start up mode is switched to main menu.
it just gets recognized when the start up mode is pc mode.
A few months ago that was automatically switched by NVDA.
Is there an issue in the Handy Tech driver?
I am running Windows 10 Home 64 Bit.
I have the recent firmware 2.0c installed but that also happened when
2.0b was installed as well.

Greetings and thanks,
Simon

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Re: Screen Curtain Feature

 

Hello all,

Brian, JAWS got this feature implemented recently. And do you know how they did it? It is very clever and at the same time - very simple, actually. At least it is, according to my observations and knowledge on the matter. From a visual point of view, it looks like a full screen black background, like the one you would see on a video player playing in full screen mode and displaying a black image. The mouse cursor was also visible, at least the last time I tried it. So, Freedom Scientific are using a functionality present on Windows for ages, actually - nothing new or groundbreaking. As far as I know, this technology is used by some games and video players to display their content in full screen mode. The thing is, that the method used can only work as a screen curtain only, and not as a power saver, since it does not (and as far as I know - it cannot) turn off the screen - it only displays a black background over the whole screen displayed on the monitor.

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Kostadin Kolev


На 27.4.2018 г. в 22:47, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io написа:

No this has been debated before. I think this will rely on Windows offering such a mode as without the screen how can you have a screenreader. Its all down to where the curtain is inserted and Windows now is so locked down that trying to cludge something in from outside is not really a good thing to try!
I'm sure somebody here might know where this discussion is, as I can remember it but did not bother as I just don't use a monitor!
Brian

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Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.

 



Re: NVDA triggers

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I'm not convinced that its always something like that. I've noticed this on on of my windows 7 machines, both are the same set up wise except on has win7 home on it not the full pro one the other has. its the pro one that does it. Also when an on screen player is playing files and it swaps files, it does not speak the new file but just some random thing like pane or unknown apparently randomly.
 
My guess is that something gets refreshed but the focus is not on anything specific at the time.
 
As for stopping dropbox, well that does launch balloons or tooltips or something and nvda can be set to read or ignore these but sometimes it seems to be a kind of  alert that gets read in any case, but as I do not see myself, I have no idea if its anything on the screen  or not.
 I do know it will interrupt say all but not actually stop it reading as you would imagine a change of focus might.
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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA triggers

If that is the case, the screen saver could be set not to run.  I'm skeptical, but we'll see.  I don't think screen savers respond to programs doing anything.  I believe they only disappear when someone takes an action to input data from the keyboard or from a touch screen.  NVDA doesn't change anything on the screen and it doesn't input any data. 
 
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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA triggers

Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Regarding the title bar problem, I don't know why it's happening and I wouldn't be optimistic about getting an answer.  I would treat it symptomatically.

My guess is a screen saver or other similar program popping up. When it pops up, NVDA registers a screen change, but a screen saver doesn't actually display something which it can read. The computer shows activity (NVDA triggering) and the screen saver goes away, bringing focus back to the app, causing NVDA to read the title bar.




Re: Labelling edit boxes and other controls for use with NVDA

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I wish it was. This is one area where nvda seems to lag behind other screenreaders. IE some seem to manage to guess right even on complex forms more often than nvda and also have labels in software. Now whether this is direct scripting for the software or web site I have no idea.
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Subject: [nvda] Labelling edit boxes and other controls for use with NVDA


Hello everyone,

Is it possible to label edit boxes and other controls within apps to read the labels?

A perfect example of this is in both versions of VipMud, the edit boxes for adding/editing MUD details do not read. You can use context-sensitive clues to figure out what goes there, but otherwise NVDA just says “Edit”. Jaws reads these just fine and can also figure out labels for other apps if not labeled by default.

If there isn’t a solution for this, my hope is that David fixes this in the next version of VipMud.

There are also other apps I’d like to label, or if I can’t, be able to tell the developers what is going on so they can work on getting a fix out.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Re: Ask about using word 2010 with NVDA

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As an aside, I was appalled the other day when a friend told me he was using office 2010, and the supplier of the most expensive screenreader in the UK told him, sorry we no longer support any version of office except 365. I know what Id have told the guy if it were me..
 
I'll not name the company but lets just say its named after a couple of common senses people have but we lack one of.
 Brian

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Hi there,

Yes, there are commands for all of those things.  I would suggest the "Microsoft Word with NVDA" training material as a good resource to learn not only those functions but many more: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Dear all listers. 
I'm teaching writing skill, and students send me word document in .docx, I open it with MS Word 2010. I don't know much about using some function. So, I've questions. 
1. Are there any shortcut to do following things? 
- switching between comment or footnote frame and the main document. 
- Turning on and off track changes / editor revision. 
2. How to comment and giving footnote to spesific part of document for example a sentence or a phrase? 
 
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Also of course this is not available in anything but the latest builds of 10, and many people don't even use 10.. cough.
 I'm actually writing this in XP at the moment.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature

Hi,

At the moment NVDA does not offer this feature, but some folks are investigating this.

The Narrator command is not really a screen curtain, as it is meant to let developers test their apps by simulating what would happen if a blind user was to use an app. This is done by making the screen black while highlighting the control the user is located at.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Rhodes
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:22 AM
To: NVDA Users Group <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature

 

Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.