Date   

Re: creating A portable copy

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I tend to always create a portable copy in a folder called nvda.

So if it's my computer, I know what drive it comes up, so I would press the windows key and R to bring up the Run menu and type without the quotes "f:\nvda\nvda.exe".

If it's someone else's computer, then I would load Narrator then plug in my drive. Then I know what drive it comes up as, and I'd follow the same procedure, closing Narrator first.

By the way, to close Narrator, just press Control+Windows+Enter again from anywhere in Windows 10, it's a toggle.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 13 April 2018 02:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] creating A portable copy

Hi


Probably the easiest way so you get a idea is to use narrator first.

What operating system are you using?


I think in the earlier versions of windows it was the windows key + the enter key to start narrator


In later versions of Windows in 10 i think it was not sure which version
it was the CTRL key + windows key + the enter key.


This would start up your copy of narrator. You would then navigate to
where your drives were.


i would use the Windows key + E to bring up file explorer then go down
to the USB stick then go into the folder of nvda then find the nvda.exe
file then press the enter key. NVDA then would start up then i would use
the alt/tab key to bring up narrator then close it with the alt + f4 key.


After that you would then use NVDA.


If there is a log on screen I have found no way around that. to start nvda.


The other way I have on my usb sticks is labeling the usb stick which
would be labeled qqq then a folder made called nvda and the files went
into that. I like that way 2.


The nvda audio tutorials page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

There are different ways of starting nvda from a usb stick there I think
from Xp up to windows 10 which depending how you have it set is if you
jump any extra hoops which might be the same for other operating systems.


You will see what i mean for say windows 10 on how you have it set to
what hoops you might have to jump.



Gene nz

On 4/13/2018 11:40 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi okay that is what i did is create A new folder.

And then made the portable copy so then how to you run the portable copy.

So now you first put in your removable drive make the folder called
nvda on it.

Then close out of that and then go and make your portable copy but
when you are making it.

You of course select the letter of your removable drive that you want
it created on and then the folder you want it in.

So once that is done then how do you get that portable to run.

Either on your machine or another machine?

This is my first time really doing this and wanting to make sure I do
it correctly.




On 4/12/2018 6:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Casey


When ever i make a portable version of NVDA I always make a folder and
usually call it nvda. it will then put all your files into that folder.
make sure you do not have other folders or files starting with the
letter n as well.



You can have other folders on the USB stick but not with the letter N
and or you could put your files into those folders if it is other stuff.
Otherwise what could happen also is if it is the only thing you are
putting the files onto it will splatter your files all over the USB
stick.
It would be rather harder to start your copy of nvda then.
There are 58 files or so that nvda uses and if you had extra folders or
files you get the idea.

I do if you are interested have different ways of starting NVDA from a
USB stick on my website which can be found on my nvda audio tutorials
page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
The easiest way for new people is to start narrator then find the USB
stick with nvda on it if going to a new machine. I do not use narrator
as i am pretty use to starting NVDA from a USB stick on a different
computer.

Gene nz



On 4/13/2018 11:08 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I have the drive that I would like to make my portable of NVDA on.

Now what I would like to know is should I create A folder for the
portable copy and then make the portable copy?

And then once I do that how do I run the portable copy after it has
been made?

Or should I just make it to the root of the drive I want to use for
the portable copy?

I would like to know the best way to go about this.




Re: what can i do please help

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Paul
You have not said what keyboard layout and NVDA modifiers are selected in the NVDA keyboard layout screen (NVDA+Control+k)

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: 28 April 2018 15:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what can i do please help

hello, i wrote already, i have connected a numberic keypad on the usb.
when i press numlock off, the digits are perfectly written.
when i press numlock on, the only thing i can do is left and right mouse
click, and that's it.
the numberic keys i cann't use for navigation around the screen.
perhaps i have bought the wrong one.
if that is the case, tell me what keypad i need if you know.
because it is a very nice and quick laptop i want to do anything to get
it work with nvda.
thanks in advance
paul otter


Op 28-4-2018 om 10:28 schreef Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io:
Use the laptop layout or buy a numeric keypad?
Have we not had this issue before. its precisely why if I get a new
laptop not only do I want the function keys to be defaulted to
function keys, but I want a keypad as well.
I have an old dell without one and got so peed off I eventually
plugged in a keyboard.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 8:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help


hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to
navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change
sound, screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen
with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left
mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter







Re: what can i do please help

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

I wound up with a laptop that did the same kind of thing. I switched NVDA to the laptop keyboard layout and, after a short learning period, I was able to do everything I did before. So you might want to try out the laptop layout and see what happens.

Best of luck,
George

-----Original Message-----
From: P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to
navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound,
screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen
with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left
mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter


Re: what can I do please help

John Covici
 

This is a great keyboard, I use it all the time for laptops or even
for my linux desktop where I want to be away from the computer.

On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 11:05:20 -0400,
Louis Maher wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>]
[2 <text/html; utf-8 (base64)>]
Hello,



For my laptop, I use a Logitech k360 with a dongle from Amazon. This is a full keyboard, with a numeric keypad. It is no wider than my Surface Pro; therefore, the keyboard easily fits into my briefcase with my computer.



I use an unpowered USB hub to service the dongle.



On this keyboard, the application key is function + upper page up. The three buttons to the left of the power switch are, respectively, mute, volume down, and volume up. I don't know what the three buttons on the left side are.



I handle my portable note taking needs with an Orbit 20.



Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what can i do please help



yes, that's the case.
paul otter


Op 28-4-2018 om 10:07 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

Is single letter navigation turned on?



To toggle its nvda+shift+space



See if that helps





From: P. Otter
Sent: 28 April 2018 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help



hello all,

i've a problem with my laptop.

it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.

it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.

most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to

navigate around the screen with nvda.

but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound,

screen, etc with fn key is pressed.

what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen

with nvda.

there is also no numlock key.



i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.

the digits are working correct with numlock off.

but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left

mouse click and a right mouse click.

but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.



so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?

is there a way to solve this problem?

i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.

thanks in advance!

paul otter











--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


Re: what can I do please help

Louis Maher <ljmaher03@...>
 

Hello,

 

For my laptop, I use a Logitech k360 with a dongle from Amazon.  This is a full keyboard, with a numeric keypad.  It is no wider than my Surface Pro; therefore, the keyboard easily fits into my briefcase with my computer.

 

I use an unpowered USB hub to service the dongle.

 

On this keyboard, the application key is function + upper page up.  The three buttons to the left of the power switch are, respectively, mute, volume down, and volume up. I don't know what the three buttons on the left side are.

 

I handle my portable note taking needs with an Orbit 20.

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what can i do please help

 

yes, that's the case.
paul otter
   

Op 28-4-2018 om 10:07 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

Is single letter navigation turned on?

 

To toggle its nvda+shift+space

 

See if that helps

 

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 28 April 2018 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

 

hello all,

i've a problem with my laptop.

it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.

it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.

most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to

navigate around the screen with nvda.

but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound,

screen, etc with fn key is pressed.

what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen

with nvda.

there is also no numlock key.

 

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.

the digits are working correct with numlock off.

but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left

mouse click and a right mouse click.

but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

 

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?

is there a way to solve this problem?

i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.

thanks in advance!

paul otter

 

 

 

 

 


Re: what can i do please help

P. Otter
 

hello, i wrote already, i have connected a numberic keypad on the usb.
when i press numlock off, the digits are perfectly written.
when i press numlock on, the only thing i can do is left and right mouse click, and that's it.
the numberic keys i cann't use for navigation around the screen.
perhaps i have bought the wrong one.
if that is the case, tell me what keypad i need if you know.
because it is a very nice and quick laptop i want to do anything to get it work with nvda.
thanks in advance
paul otter


Op 28-4-2018 om 10:28 schreef Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io:

Use the laptop layout or buy a numeric keypad?
Have we not had this issue before. its precisely why if I get a new laptop not only do I want the function keys to be defaulted to function keys, but I want a keypad as well.
I have an old dell without one and got so  peed off I eventually plugged in a keyboard.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 8:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help


hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound, screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter






Re: what can i do please help

P. Otter
 

yes, that's the case.
paul otter
   

Op 28-4-2018 om 10:07 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

Is single letter navigation turned on?

 

To toggle its nvda+shift+space

 

See if that helps

 

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 28 April 2018 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

 

hello all,

i've a problem with my laptop.

it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.

it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.

most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to

navigate around the screen with nvda.

but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound,

screen, etc with fn key is pressed.

what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen

with nvda.

there is also no numlock key.

 

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.

the digits are working correct with numlock off.

but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left

mouse click and a right mouse click.

but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

 

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?

is there a way to solve this problem?

i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.

thanks in advance!

paul otter

 

 

 

 



Re: NVDA triggers

Giles Turnbull
 

No, I don't have any screen saver active on my com0-computers. It is also not, as far as I can tell, something specific triggering NVDA to read the window title, other than some delay that triggers it after a few minutes of inactivity. THis is kind of the inverse of a screen saver ... unless Windows was triggering the screen saver and then, immediatley afterwards, realising that it shouldn't have done that and returned the focus to whichever program previously had the focus but, if that were the case, the effect would repeat after every however many minutes the screen saver was configured to activate at, but this does not happen.

Curious, but I guess I'll just have to put up with it :)


Re: what can i do please help

Gene
 

Also, I don't know anything about the brand of numpad being used.  I'd try others if possible.  This sounds to me as though it’s a problem with the numpad not being compatible.  Are there any electronic stores near you where you can test different ones? 
 
Also, you may get an answer about the fn key but it may be necessary to look at the manual.  You may be able to find it online if it isn't available on your computer.  I don't know if Dell support might provide the information. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] what can i do please help

Hi
I think you need to switch keyboard layout to Desktop if you have a numpad connected.  You say the digits work with numlock off but surely numlock needs to be on for the digits to work and numlock needs to be off for keys to operate NVDA.  Also check that the "use insert key as an NVDA modifier" is checked.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: 28 April 2018 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to
navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound,
screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen
with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left
mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter








Re: what can i do please help

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
I think you need to switch keyboard layout to Desktop if you have a numpad connected. You say the digits work with numlock off but surely numlock needs to be on for the digits to work and numlock needs to be off for keys to operate NVDA. Also check that the "use insert key as an NVDA modifier" is checked.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: 28 April 2018 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to
navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound,
screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen
with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left
mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter


Re: Ask about using word 2010 with NVDA

The Gamages
 

Hello Brian,
I know the company you mention, they are good at selling things, but you might as well ask in your local, pet shop for answers to anything else. However, the screen reader you mention does support Office 2010 and other versions, it’s just the Company in question don’t want to answer technical questions, to be fair, their after sales service for the expensive screen reader is adequate, if it gets too technical they will point you elsewhere.
Long live NVDA!!!
 
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Ask about using word 2010 with NVDA
 
As an aside, I was appalled the other day when a friend told me he was using office 2010, and the supplier of the most expensive screenreader in the UK told him, sorry we no longer support any version of office except 365. I know what Id have told the guy if it were me..
 
I'll not name the company but lets just say its named after a couple of common senses people have but we lack one of.
Brian

bglists@... 
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
This message sent from a Windows XP machine!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Ask about using word 2010 with NVDA
 
Hi there,
 
Yes, there are commands for all of those things.  I would suggest the "Microsoft Word with NVDA" training material as a good resource to learn not only those functions but many more: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 1:34 PM, <prem.translator@...> wrote:
Dear all listers.
I'm teaching writing skill, and students send me word document in .docx, I open it with MS Word 2010. I don't know much about using some function. So, I've questions.
1. Are there any shortcut to do following things?
- switching between comment or footnote frame and the main document.
- Turning on and off track changes / editor revision.
2. How to comment and giving footnote to spesific part of document for example a sentence or a phrase?
 
Thank you.


 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Imaging software accessible with NVDA

David Griffith
 

Normally with Drive snapshot  there is no need for a talking environment.

When I have used Drive Snapshot in the past it simply works from withing Windows.

Basically you back up your image withing windows.

Then to restore your image you again from within Windows select the drive you want to restore to and then Windows will reboot and Drive napshot will restore the image you have selected and then reboot into that image of windows automatically.

So really it is just a case of waiting for NVDA to start up with the login prompt to alert you that the restore image process has completed.

Of course if you have a catastrophic  failure and cannot get  into any version of windows there is a problem.

The developers provide a CD rom image for booting if necessary and they did provide me with a set of instructions of what to type to restore an image – it was not that complicated but there is no talking feedback.

Personally I resigned myself to seeking sighted help if this was a problem.

David Griffith

 

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: The Wolf
Sent: 27 April 2018 19:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

 

how do you use drivesnap shots pe invirement?

 

the only blind friendly pe invirement is the talking windows ones does

drive snapshot has a talking pe?

 

 

 

On 4/27/2018 4:02 AM, Aman Singer wrote:

> Hi,

>             Drive Snapshot works well, and is accessible both from Windows and

> from the various PE environments

> http://www.drivesnapshot.de

> HTH,

> Aman

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg

> Wocher

> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:55 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Imaging software accessible with NVDA

> Hello all,

> I am getting ready to replace the hard drive onan older laptop with an SSD.

> What imaging software is accessible with NVDA so I can move the OS from the

> old hard drive to the new one?

> Regards,

> Greg Wocher

>

 

--

check out my song on youtube

https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y

 

 

 

 


Re: Screen Curtain Feature

 

Hello all,

Brian, it is not black text on a black background. It is some sort of an overlay, if I understand it correctly. A full screen black window on top of other windows, if you will.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


На 28.4.2018 г. в 11:20, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io написа:

So is this the old black text on a black background thing. Black cat in a coal cellar so to speak. I know this approach works as some web sites include secret text written in the paper colour either deliberately or by accident. I'd have thought though that this might need some way to intercept the video driver.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kostadin Kolev" <k.kolev1985@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


Hello all,


Brian, JAWS got this feature implemented recently. And do you know how they did it? It is very clever and at the same time - very simple, actually. At least it is, according to my observations and knowledge on the matter. From a visual point of view, it looks like a full screen black background, like the one you would see on a video player playing in full screen mode and displaying a black image. The mouse cursor was also visible, at least the last time I tried it. So, Freedom Scientific are using a functionality present on Windows for ages, actually - nothing new or groundbreaking. As far as I know, this technology is used by some games and video players to display their content in full screen mode. The thing is, that the method used can only work as a screen curtain only, and not as a power saver, since it does not (and as far as I know - it cannot) turn off the screen - it only displays a black background over the whole screen displayed on the monitor.


______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev



На 27.4.2018 г. в 22:47, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io написа:

 No this has been debated before. I think this will rely on Windows offering such a mode as without the screen how can you have a screenreader. Its all down to where the curtain is inserted and Windows now is so locked down that trying to cludge something in from outside is not really a good thing to try!
 I'm sure somebody here might know where this discussion is, as I can remember it but did not bother as I just don't use a monitor!
 Brian

 bglists@...Â
 Sent via blueyonder.
 Please address personal email to:-
 briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
 in the display name field.
 This message sent from a Windows XP machine!
   ----- Original Message -----    From: Greg Rhodes
   To: NVDA Users Group
   Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:22 PM
   Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


   Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.

   Â



 






Re: what can i do please help

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Use the laptop layout or buy a numeric keypad?
Have we not had this issue before. its precisely why if I get a new laptop not only do I want the function keys to be defaulted to function keys, but I want a keypad as well.
I have an old dell without one and got so peed off I eventually plugged in a keyboard.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 8:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help


hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound, screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter



Re: Screen Curtain Feature

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I think those who ask for this are talking laptops really and that is the problem mentioned. you really would like to turn off the monitor completely in software to emulate what we do on a desktop with a button or not even connect one.
That is not possible.
Maybe its something that can be designed into hardware, but I'd not expect mainstream companies to do this unless its as a power saving feature when streaming audio.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


Well you don't need a screen to have a screen reader.

You need a graphics chip to have a screen reader but weather you need to have it connected to anything is another thing.

You do need a sound card and a graphics chip else all those desktops I service I would have toh ave a screen.

Its true if you have to deal with the mouse or graphical software that doesn't play nice with your graphics to translation text viewing reading software, then sure.

But you don't need a screen as such.




On 4/28/2018 7:47 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No this has been debated before. I think this will rely on Windows offering such a mode as without the screen how can you have a screenreader. Its all down to where the curtain is inserted and Windows now is so locked down that trying to cludge something in from outside is not really a good thing to try!
I'm sure somebody here might know where this discussion is, as I can remember it but did not bother as I just don't use a monitor!
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
This message sent from a Windows XP machine!
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Rhodes
To: NVDA Users Group
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:22 PM
Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.




Re: Screen Curtain Feature

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

So is this the old black text on a black background thing. Black cat in a coal cellar so to speak. I know this approach works as some web sites include secret text written in the paper colour either deliberately or by accident. I'd have thought though that this might need some way to intercept the video driver.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kostadin Kolev" <k.kolev1985@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


Hello all,


Brian, JAWS got this feature implemented recently. And do you know how they did it? It is very clever and at the same time - very simple, actually. At least it is, according to my observations and knowledge on the matter. From a visual point of view, it looks like a full screen black background, like the one you would see on a video player playing in full screen mode and displaying a black image. The mouse cursor was also visible, at least the last time I tried it. So, Freedom Scientific are using a functionality present on Windows for ages, actually - nothing new or groundbreaking. As far as I know, this technology is used by some games and video players to display their content in full screen mode. The thing is, that the method used can only work as a screen curtain only, and not as a power saver, since it does not (and as far as I know - it cannot) turn off the screen - it only displays a black background over the whole screen displayed on the monitor.


______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev



На 27.4.2018 г. в 22:47, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io написа:

No this has been debated before. I think this will rely on Windows offering such a mode as without the screen how can you have a screenreader. Its all down to where the curtain is inserted and Windows now is so locked down that trying to cludge something in from outside is not really a good thing to try!
I'm sure somebody here might know where this discussion is, as I can remember it but did not bother as I just don't use a monitor!
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.ukÂ
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
This message sent from a Windows XP machine!
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Rhodes
To: NVDA Users Group
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 4:22 PM
Subject: [nvda] Screen Curtain Feature


Is there a keyboard shortcut with NVDA to invoke a screen curtain (blank screen while you are working – for privacy purposes)? Narrator has a shortcut – Capslock/Shift/F12. I heard yesterday that JAWS has a similar command – Insert/Spacebar, then PrintScreen. Neither of these work when I’m using NVDA. Anyone know of a NVDA screen curtain shortcut. Con’t really want to do it by turning brightness to zero. Thanks.

Â




Re: what can i do please help

Chris
 

Is single letter navigation turned on?

 

To toggle its nvda+shift+space

 

See if that helps

 

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 28 April 2018 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what can i do please help

 

hello all,

i've a problem with my laptop.

it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.

it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.

most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to

navigate around the screen with nvda.

but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound,

screen, etc with fn key is pressed.

what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen

with nvda.

there is also no numlock key.

 

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.

the digits are working correct with numlock off.

but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left

mouse click and a right mouse click.

but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

 

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?

is there a way to solve this problem?

i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.

thanks in advance!

paul otter

 

 

 

 


what can i do please help

P. Otter
 

hello all,
i've a problem with my laptop.
it is a dell inspiron 14Z5423.
it is very quick, and nvda is installed and works properly.
most of the time on laptops you can press and hold the fn key to navigate around the screen with nvda.
but not here. the fn key works here only for the F-keys to change sound, screen, etc with fn key is pressed.
what i want is to use j k l, u i o etc to navigate around the screen with nvda.
there is also no numlock key.

i've tryed it with an sweex number pad.
the digits are working correct with numlock off.
but when i've pressed numlock on, the only thing i can do is a left mouse click and a right mouse click.
but the digits are not used as nvda navigate keys.

so the laptop is very nice and quick. what can i do now?
is there a way to solve this problem?
i'm very glad if there is a solution for me.
thanks in advance!
paul otter


Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Adriani


I have just added a link to the google translate page for other languages on the main web page.

You can jump down by letter H to its heading then go down to the link then press the enter key where it will take you to another page.


For some reason i could not put in a plug in to do it and it wanted it on every page so have gone down this other route. There is a heading that says some thing like translate this website to another language and a link to the translate page. The default language is english and the website main page is already in the edit section to translate. it is then a matter of changing it to another language then having it translate to it. Just after the language combo box you want it to go to is where you can read it in another language. it also seems if you click on one of the links the next page is also translated but only on that page i have it pointing to off my website.

You will see what i mean when it is translated.




it may help? for people where english is not there first language like mine.


Not sure if the steps on what to do is enough or should i add a little more or hopefully it is clear enough on what to do.


Gene nz




On 4/13/2018 5:41 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Gene,

 

thank you for your great job. This is very important for the whole community. I have forwarded your links to the german community and in the translations group.

 

I hope I will find some time during next week to provide you some suggestions.

 

I propose to split the related sources in “development sources” and “user specific sources”. In this way we could add links to github and bitbucket as well.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 10:10
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen reader related resources off the main website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web pages on my website that point to that page.

I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.
These can be changed  or added to.

Gene nz
 

On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Adriani

 

Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources  which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda blogs? about using nvda? Not quite sure of other sections if i do and would be more a point to page but not jeffs one.

Even though he had a good site.

 

I am guessing we do  have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc but not in the one place.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Gene,

 

thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph’s new tutorials set “welcome to NVDA 2018” can be included as well?

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2018 03:21
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi Adriani

 

I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.

 

Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do it the other way that was posted.

 

I have not any XP machines here now to test with.

 

The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Hello,

 

we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well and it works perfectly. NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this file:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. März 2018 19:47
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi

 

the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541

 

You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.

 

So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to fix the problem.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:

hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.
how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?
does it have solution for users of xp?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!
 
On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
HI guys
 
Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
 
RECENTLY UPDATED:
 
 
Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.
 
Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which
has been updated for 2018.1
 
Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and
product reviews page
http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html
 
NEW:
 
Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA
tutorials for other programs page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html
as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.
 
Gene NZ
 
On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Gene NZ!
Thanks so much for what you do for us!
God bless!
David Moore
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10
 
From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net
 
 
Hi guys
 
Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages
 
New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with
the NVDA screen reader by Hareth  and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page
under the troubleshooting section
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a
tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA
tutorials learning the basics page)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html
Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the
keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html
 
Gene NZ
--
[Image                NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.
 
 
 
--
[Image NVDA          certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.
 
 
 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 



multilanguage speech one core voices

amir din
 

Hi,

I am using nvda with speech one core voices on win10. I have installed several voices for this speech synthesizer, in different languages. I am using Arabic  as my windows default language, but sometimes I wil encounter English words written in a b c d e, so I want to make the speech synthesizer switch to English voice when it detects a b c d e, and switch back to Arabic voice when it encounters Arabic text?

 

If it is not available on current nvda, I think it should be added.

 

 

 

 

Dihantar dari Mel untuk Windows 10