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Re: DictationBridge demo up

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Kevin,

Indeed, DictationBridge cannot help with recognition accuracy. However, once
completed, it will help in making the training interface easier to use with NVDA
which will also increase recognition accuracy.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Cussick via Groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 2:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up

Hi, yes it does but the Scottish accent loads of mistakes. don't
really think this is the fault of the addon but the fault of the ms speech
recognition program.

On 10/05/2016 02:07, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi Kevin and all,

There are no keystrokes. Launch either Dragon or Microsoft Windows
speech-recognition and start dictating. The add-on will echo back text
using NVDA.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Cussick via Groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 3:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up

Hi, I have installed the addon, but can't find any keystrokes to get
started help please thanks.

On 09/05/2016 17:58, Pranav Lal wrote:
Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA
add-on is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-a
v
ailable/

Pranav








Re: DictationBridge demo up

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Brian,

DictationBridge is a project that makes it easier for people using screen
readers to work with speech-recognition programs namely Dragon from Nuance and
Microsoft Windows speech-recognition. Its primary function is to echo back text
as you dictate. If you use speech-recognition software without bridging
technology, you will not know if your text is being recognized accurately.
DictationBridge will echo back the recognized text so that you can know in real
time if there are any errors in what has been recognized by WSR or Dragon. It
will also make it easier to use elements of the user interfaces of Dragon and
WSR easier to use with a screen reader. The focus is on NVDA but the idea is to
extend the program such that any Windows screen reader can take advantage of
DictationBridge. You can read more about the program at its website.
http://dictationbridge.com

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
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list account
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up

What is this for exactly?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Cussick via Groups.io"
<the.big.white.shepherd@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up


thanks for this will test.

On 09/05/2016 17:58, Pranav Lal wrote:
Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA add-on
is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-available/

Pranav




Re: CCleaner on Windows 8.1: programs to be uninstalled list not directly read

Andre Fisher
 

I don't have this problem.

On 5/10/16, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
Yeah I am. I forget the version number. It came out bout 3 weeks agon.


On 5/10/2016 3:44 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Leeno,
No, it still is the same for me. I need to Tab ahead and back to read
each list item normally. Are you on the latest version of CCleaner?
As time permits, I will try updating the version of CCleaner on my
older laptop to the latest one as well, and then report back to the
list.
Thanks.

On 5/11/16, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
Hey Bavia. I was able to read the list of programs. All I did was alt
tab from TB to C cleaner and for some reason NVDA is reading the list of
items.


On 5/10/2016 3:26 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
Having purchased a new computer, currently powered by Windows 8.1
Professional, I went about installing some of the necessary programs I
would require. One of them being CCleaner, I installed it from
piriform.com on my current 64 bit system.
However, although frankly speaking, I haven't really done anything
whatsoever with it, I did do this - press Tools button and Tab to the
list of programs to be uninstalled list box. The weirdest
accessibility problem I am facing in this list which was never
experienced by me on my Windows 7 32 bit previous laptop is that
arrowing does not read the name of the newly focused program name
item. What I need to do in order to work around this is arrow to the
next or previous program, and then Shift Tab and Tab back or the vice
versa and then upon renewed focus on the list box, the new item name,
which is the default focus is read out.
This is an especially strange thing I have observed, and would like to
confirm from other people out here whether this is a universally
occurring bug or something odd I am experiencing.
If further testing or information is needed, I am anyways probably
going to try some object navigation and review modes and stuff to get
this information spoken directly, and would also be happy to provide
any log if developers feel imperative.
Thanks.






Re: DictationBridge demo up

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, yes it does but the Scottish accent loads of mistakes. don't really think this is the fault of the addon but the fault of the ms speech recognition program.

On 10/05/2016 02:07, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi Kevin and all,

There are no keystrokes. Launch either Dragon or Microsoft Windows
speech-recognition and start dictating. The add-on will echo back text using
NVDA.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Cussick via Groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 3:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up

Hi, I have installed the addon, but can't find any keystrokes to get
started help please thanks.

On 09/05/2016 17:58, Pranav Lal wrote:
Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA
add-on is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-av
ailable/

Pranav







Re: CCleaner on Windows 8.1: programs to be uninstalled list not directly read

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Yeah I am. I forget the version number. It came out bout 3 weeks agon.

On 5/10/2016 3:44 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Leeno,
No, it still is the same for me. I need to Tab ahead and back to read
each list item normally. Are you on the latest version of CCleaner?
As time permits, I will try updating the version of CCleaner on my
older laptop to the latest one as well, and then report back to the
list.
Thanks.

On 5/11/16, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
Hey Bavia. I was able to read the list of programs. All I did was alt
tab from TB to C cleaner and for some reason NVDA is reading the list of
items.


On 5/10/2016 3:26 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
Having purchased a new computer, currently powered by Windows 8.1
Professional, I went about installing some of the necessary programs I
would require. One of them being CCleaner, I installed it from
piriform.com on my current 64 bit system.
However, although frankly speaking, I haven't really done anything
whatsoever with it, I did do this - press Tools button and Tab to the
list of programs to be uninstalled list box. The weirdest
accessibility problem I am facing in this list which was never
experienced by me on my Windows 7 32 bit previous laptop is that
arrowing does not read the name of the newly focused program name
item. What I need to do in order to work around this is arrow to the
next or previous program, and then Shift Tab and Tab back or the vice
versa and then upon renewed focus on the list box, the new item name,
which is the default focus is read out.
This is an especially strange thing I have observed, and would like to
confirm from other people out here whether this is a universally
occurring bug or something odd I am experiencing.
If further testing or information is needed, I am anyways probably
going to try some object navigation and review modes and stuff to get
this information spoken directly, and would also be happy to provide
any log if developers feel imperative.
Thanks.



Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Gene
 

I don't know him in a personal sense either.  I know his reputation.  I follow two blind technology discussion lists aside from this one and I know that many people are using it.  I haven't seen one complaint.  Perhaps others will vouch for him and the add on.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Good. Glad you aren't giving me a hard time. Mods shouldn't do so on any list list anyway unless the mod he/she is a complete a$$$ by nature. I just simply don't trust it that's all. I guess one way to see if it truly works under FF 46 is to download it. I don't know the guy. I guess that's part of why I'm hesitant to get it.


On 5/10/2016 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:
So you are suspicious that James Scholes is intentionally turning the add on into something malicious?  Based on his reputation, that's just groundless. 
 
I haven't checked to see who else has written about the add on but Blind Bargains has.  They are a respected source and I hardly think they would wrecklessly provide information about add ons or other such items.
 
Saying that's just my opinion, as though all opinions are equal is not correct.  You provide no grouds for your opinion except suspicion.  I have provided the reputation of the person who had the add on signed, it's excellent, and the reputation of a source that spread information about the add on.
 
I'm not trying to give you a hard time but, given the amount of interest in Webvisum, I want to discourage unfounded suspicion.
 
gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE 11, and IOS later on down the road.


On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one.  it was taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted member of the blind computer using community.  Nothing was changed except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate.  I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this community will vouch for him.  There is no reason to believe the add on is unsafe. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
said "convoluted add-on".


On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
> Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
> it any longer then...
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
>>
>> Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
>> Mozilla and it now works.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
>>> stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
>>> but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
>>> Good news!
>>> Ciao,
>>> Ollie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>
>
>
>
>






Re: CCleaner on Windows 8.1: programs to be uninstalled list not directly read

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Leeno,
No, it still is the same for me. I need to Tab ahead and back to read
each list item normally. Are you on the latest version of CCleaner?
As time permits, I will try updating the version of CCleaner on my
older laptop to the latest one as well, and then report back to the
list.
Thanks.

On 5/11/16, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
Hey Bavia. I was able to read the list of programs. All I did was alt
tab from TB to C cleaner and for some reason NVDA is reading the list of
items.


On 5/10/2016 3:26 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
Having purchased a new computer, currently powered by Windows 8.1
Professional, I went about installing some of the necessary programs I
would require. One of them being CCleaner, I installed it from
piriform.com on my current 64 bit system.
However, although frankly speaking, I haven't really done anything
whatsoever with it, I did do this - press Tools button and Tab to the
list of programs to be uninstalled list box. The weirdest
accessibility problem I am facing in this list which was never
experienced by me on my Windows 7 32 bit previous laptop is that
arrowing does not read the name of the newly focused program name
item. What I need to do in order to work around this is arrow to the
next or previous program, and then Shift Tab and Tab back or the vice
versa and then upon renewed focus on the list box, the new item name,
which is the default focus is read out.
This is an especially strange thing I have observed, and would like to
confirm from other people out here whether this is a universally
occurring bug or something odd I am experiencing.
If further testing or information is needed, I am anyways probably
going to try some object navigation and review modes and stuff to get
this information spoken directly, and would also be happy to provide
any log if developers feel imperative.
Thanks.



--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: CCleaner on Windows 8.1: programs to be uninstalled list not directly read

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Hey Bavia. I was able to read the list of programs. All I did was alt tab from TB to C cleaner and for some reason NVDA is reading the list of items.

On 5/10/2016 3:26 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
Having purchased a new computer, currently powered by Windows 8.1
Professional, I went about installing some of the necessary programs I
would require. One of them being CCleaner, I installed it from
piriform.com on my current 64 bit system.
However, although frankly speaking, I haven't really done anything
whatsoever with it, I did do this - press Tools button and Tab to the
list of programs to be uninstalled list box. The weirdest
accessibility problem I am facing in this list which was never
experienced by me on my Windows 7 32 bit previous laptop is that
arrowing does not read the name of the newly focused program name
item. What I need to do in order to work around this is arrow to the
next or previous program, and then Shift Tab and Tab back or the vice
versa and then upon renewed focus on the list box, the new item name,
which is the default focus is read out.
This is an especially strange thing I have observed, and would like to
confirm from other people out here whether this is a universally
occurring bug or something odd I am experiencing.
If further testing or information is needed, I am anyways probably
going to try some object navigation and review modes and stuff to get
this information spoken directly, and would also be happy to provide
any log if developers feel imperative.
Thanks.


Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Good. Glad you aren't giving me a hard time. Mods shouldn't do so on any list list anyway unless the mod he/she is a complete a$$$ by nature. I just simply don't trust it that's all. I guess one way to see if it truly works under FF 46 is to download it. I don't know the guy. I guess that's part of why I'm hesitant to get it.


On 5/10/2016 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:
So you are suspicious that James Scholes is intentionally turning the add on into something malicious?  Based on his reputation, that's just groundless. 
 
I haven't checked to see who else has written about the add on but Blind Bargains has.  They are a respected source and I hardly think they would wrecklessly provide information about add ons or other such items.
 
Saying that's just my opinion, as though all opinions are equal is not correct.  You provide no grouds for your opinion except suspicion.  I have provided the reputation of the person who had the add on signed, it's excellent, and the reputation of a source that spread information about the add on.
 
I'm not trying to give you a hard time but, given the amount of interest in Webvisum, I want to discourage unfounded suspicion.
 
gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE 11, and IOS later on down the road.


On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one.  it was taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted member of the blind computer using community.  Nothing was changed except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate.  I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this community will vouch for him.  There is no reason to believe the add on is unsafe. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
said "convoluted add-on".


On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
> Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
> it any longer then...
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
>>
>> Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
>> Mozilla and it now works.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
>>> stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
>>> but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
>>> Good news!
>>> Ciao,
>>> Ollie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>
>
>
>
>






Re: CCleaner on Windows 8.1: programs to be uninstalled list not directly read

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Leeno,
Indeed, it is odd. By the way, I just thought of something - this
might well be a universally applicable accessibility bug with recent
versions of CCleaner, because my Windows 7 32 bit laptop had a
relatively old version of CCleaner running, at least several months
old.
It would be great if more people could confirm this bug, so we could
accordingly test this with other screen readers, and consequently
contact either NV Access (Github issue tracker) or notify Piriform of
this.
Thanks.

On 5/11/16, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
Bbia. I'm rinning C Cleaner the latest version under WIn 10 64 bit and I
get the same thing. This is odd.


On 5/10/2016 3:26 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
Having purchased a new computer, currently powered by Windows 8.1
Professional, I went about installing some of the necessary programs I
would require. One of them being CCleaner, I installed it from
piriform.com on my current 64 bit system.
However, although frankly speaking, I haven't really done anything
whatsoever with it, I did do this - press Tools button and Tab to the
list of programs to be uninstalled list box. The weirdest
accessibility problem I am facing in this list which was never
experienced by me on my Windows 7 32 bit previous laptop is that
arrowing does not read the name of the newly focused program name
item. What I need to do in order to work around this is arrow to the
next or previous program, and then Shift Tab and Tab back or the vice
versa and then upon renewed focus on the list box, the new item name,
which is the default focus is read out.
This is an especially strange thing I have observed, and would like to
confirm from other people out here whether this is a universally
occurring bug or something odd I am experiencing.
If further testing or information is needed, I am anyways probably
going to try some object navigation and review modes and stuff to get
this information spoken directly, and would also be happy to provide
any log if developers feel imperative.
Thanks.



--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Gene
 

So you are suspicious that James Scholes is intentionally turning the add on into something malicious?  Based on his reputation, that's just groundless. 
 
I haven't checked to see who else has written about the add on but Blind Bargains has.  They are a respected source and I hardly think they would wrecklessly provide information about add ons or other such items.
 
Saying that's just my opinion, as though all opinions are equal is not correct.  You provide no grouds for your opinion except suspicion.  I have provided the reputation of the person who had the add on signed, it's excellent, and the reputation of a source that spread information about the add on.
 
I'm not trying to give you a hard time but, given the amount of interest in Webvisum, I want to discourage unfounded suspicion.
 
gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE 11, and IOS later on down the road.


On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one.  it was taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted member of the blind computer using community.  Nothing was changed except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate.  I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this community will vouch for him.  There is no reason to believe the add on is unsafe. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
said "convoluted add-on".


On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
> Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
> it any longer then...
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
>>
>> Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
>> Mozilla and it now works.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
>>> stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
>>> but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
>>> Good news!
>>> Ciao,
>>> Ollie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>
>
>
>
>





Re: CCleaner on Windows 8.1: programs to be uninstalled list not directly read

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Bbia. I'm rinning C Cleaner the latest version under WIn 10 64 bit and I get the same thing. This is odd.

On 5/10/2016 3:26 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
Having purchased a new computer, currently powered by Windows 8.1
Professional, I went about installing some of the necessary programs I
would require. One of them being CCleaner, I installed it from
piriform.com on my current 64 bit system.
However, although frankly speaking, I haven't really done anything
whatsoever with it, I did do this - press Tools button and Tab to the
list of programs to be uninstalled list box. The weirdest
accessibility problem I am facing in this list which was never
experienced by me on my Windows 7 32 bit previous laptop is that
arrowing does not read the name of the newly focused program name
item. What I need to do in order to work around this is arrow to the
next or previous program, and then Shift Tab and Tab back or the vice
versa and then upon renewed focus on the list box, the new item name,
which is the default focus is read out.
This is an especially strange thing I have observed, and would like to
confirm from other people out here whether this is a universally
occurring bug or something odd I am experiencing.
If further testing or information is needed, I am anyways probably
going to try some object navigation and review modes and stuff to get
this information spoken directly, and would also be happy to provide
any log if developers feel imperative.
Thanks.


CCleaner on Windows 8.1: programs to be uninstalled list not directly read

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,
Having purchased a new computer, currently powered by Windows 8.1
Professional, I went about installing some of the necessary programs I
would require. One of them being CCleaner, I installed it from
piriform.com on my current 64 bit system.
However, although frankly speaking, I haven't really done anything
whatsoever with it, I did do this - press Tools button and Tab to the
list of programs to be uninstalled list box. The weirdest
accessibility problem I am facing in this list which was never
experienced by me on my Windows 7 32 bit previous laptop is that
arrowing does not read the name of the newly focused program name
item. What I need to do in order to work around this is arrow to the
next or previous program, and then Shift Tab and Tab back or the vice
versa and then upon renewed focus on the list box, the new item name,
which is the default focus is read out.
This is an especially strange thing I have observed, and would like to
confirm from other people out here whether this is a universally
occurring bug or something odd I am experiencing.
If further testing or information is needed, I am anyways probably
going to try some object navigation and review modes and stuff to get
this information spoken directly, and would also be happy to provide
any log if developers feel imperative.
Thanks.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE 11, and IOS later on down the road.


On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one.  it was taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted member of the blind computer using community.  Nothing was changed except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate.  I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this community will vouch for him.  There is no reason to believe the add on is unsafe. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
said "convoluted add-on".


On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
> Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
> it any longer then...
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
>>
>> Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
>> Mozilla and it now works.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
>>> stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
>>> but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
>>> Good news!
>>> Ciao,
>>> Ollie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>
>
>
>
>





Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Gene
 

The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one.  it was taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted member of the blind computer using community.  Nothing was changed except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate.  I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this community will vouch for him.  There is no reason to believe the add on is unsafe. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
said "convoluted add-on".


On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
> Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
> it any longer then...
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
>>
>> Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
>> Mozilla and it now works.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
>>> stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
>>> but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
>>> Good news!
>>> Ciao,
>>> Ollie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: Kindle ap

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi,
Does NVDA work with the Kindle App?
Chris


Re: embedded object in Firefox

George <slr1bpz@...>
 

Copying the link from Cearbhall's email directly into firefox didn't work for me either because it ended at the embedded linefeed cutting off the last part of the link.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 3:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox

I did that,but I pasted it straight into the edit box then cursored along
and removed it there, but that seemed not to work.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George McCoy" <slr1bpz@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox


Gene,

I’m sure that the method used to remove the linefeed character doesn’t
matter but here’s how I did it.
I copied the entire link to the clipboard.
I opened a new notepad plusplus document and pasted the link into it.
Next, I deleted the linefeed character and copied the link to the clipboard.
Finally, I opened firefox, pressed ctrl plus l, pasted the link into the URL
edit box and pressed enter.
The link worked at that point.

George

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 5:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox

I don't know why George could reach it. I couldn't and I didn't include the
return. But the method he described or some variation is worth trying on
any embedded objects where the most straightforward method won't work. I've
used such methods on many embedded objects.


From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox

George,

Yes, thanks, this does the job.

Glad you were able to access the url. Others said they could not, even
though I asked them to remove the carriage return as you did.

Strange!

Anyway, I value your response.



All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...



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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of George
McCoy
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox

Hello Cearbhall,

I'm in the U.S. I'm running the same version of firefox as you but I am
running Windows 7 home premium with all updates and NVDA 2016.1.

The link you sent worked for me when I eliminated the linefeed character
after the equals sign.
I played several samples. Here's how I did it.
1. Arrow to the unavailable embedded object.
2. Route the mouse to the embedded object with nvda plus numPad slash.
3. Left click by pressing numPad slash.
I tried three samples and they all played for me using this method.

Give this method a go and let us know if it works on your system.

Good luck,
George

-----Original Message-----
From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] embedded object in Firefox

Hi,

I found a problem in Firefox when attempting to listen to a sample of an
audio book in the BorrowBox library system. I don't know if this is an NVDA
problem or exclusively a Firefox Flash Player issue. or if Bolinda need to
do something with their Java script. I should mention that the sighted user
has no problem playing the audio sample using a mouse.

I am using Windows 10,, NVDA 2016.1 and Firefox46.1 on a desktop PC.

If List members would like to see the problem for themselves I recommend the
following url:
https://fe.bolindadigital.com/wldcs_bol_fo/b2i/productOverview.html?b2bSite=
4834&browseItemId=366096&fromPage=1
It is not necessary to sign in to sample the reading of a title.

Here is a typical audio book display:

--Start of clip -----------------------
link graphic Railway Viaduct
embedded object unavailable (this should say "Preview" but doesn't!) Link
Reserve On Loan, Available on 22/05/16 Link Railway Viaduct Link Edward
Marston Read by Sam Dastor Crime & Thriller, Historical Fiction eAudiobook -
Unabridged ---end of clip ------------------

The player for the audio sample is activated by an "embedded object" that is
flagged by NVDA as "not being available". The BorrowBox help page advises
that Adobe flash must be active to enable audio sampling of each title. I
have Adobe flash installed and active. For example, I can play any song in
YouTube in Firefox without any problem.

After many weeks of failing to play the preview, I found the following
workaround using NVDA:

From the top of the web page select eAudio if not already selected. Then
press "g" to find a book title. If the next object after pressing
down-arrow once is "embedded Object" then you have an audio book and we can
start.

Here is the full sequence of steps:
1. Press G for the graphic of the book title; 2. Press down-arrow once to
the embedded object. You should hear "Embedded Object not available"; 3.
Press NVDA + numpad Enter to activate the embedded object. You should hear
"Embedded Object Unavailable Activate"; 4. Press right arrow once. You
should hear ""Space"; 5. Press the space bar to start and stop the sample
audio of the narrator speaking.

If pressing the space bar does not act as a toggle and the enter key does
not do the job either:
6. Press right arrow once;
7. Press space bar or main keyboard enter to play and stop playing the audio
sample.

Can anyone advise what to do about this?
A. Is it an NVDA problem?
B. Is it a Firefox problem?
c. Is it a BorrowBox problem for the developer Bolinda to see to?


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian said "convoluted add-on".

On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing it any longer then...

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for Mozilla and it now works.



On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello all,

I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version, but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
Good news!
Ciao,
Ollie



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Slightly OT - tiling windows under windows 10, to allow drag and drop using NVDA, with the mouse cursor

Jacob Kruger
 

If remember correctly, in things like windows 7 task manager, you could easily enough tell it to tile two windows side by side, etc. to then allow you to use forms of drag and drop from window to window, using a screen reader implementation of the mouse cursor.

However, in windows 10, the new version of the task manager doesn't seem to offer that too easily, so was just wondering if anyone knows of/can think of a relatively simple way to have two windows open, and to get them to line themselves up tiled either horizontally across, or vertically up and down on the screen, to then use the key combo of shift + numpad / to lock left mouse button on selected items, and then move over to target area/element in other window, route mouse cursor to navigator object using NVDA + numpad /, and then use the same keystroke as earlier to finish off the drag and drop operation?

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"


Re: problem with thunderbird

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Well I'm having no problems with Thunderbird here and I'm running V 45.0


On 5/9/2016 8:58 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

Hello, Rosemary!

Yes, you are correct. But, not sure if this will be the same with the SeaMonkey, and haven't try that email before. But, more or less Thunderbird is likely a more user-friendly indeed and at the same time it was open source apps as well.

Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:51 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hello, Robert,

That's unfortunate. Thunderbird used to be pretty good. I wonder if
seamonkey would work.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert
Mendoza
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird

Hello, Ron and Rosemary,

This was happened from the time Thunderbird released the newer version.


Robert Mendoza
On 5/10/2016 8:43 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


	Hi, Ron,
	
	That's exactly what happens to me too. That's why I'm using outlook
now.
	
	Rosemarie
	
	
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron
	Canazzi
	Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 5:40 PM
	To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> 
	Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with thunderbird
	
	Hi Rosemarie,
	
	
	
	
	Ever since the sub group was created for this list, when I send a
message to
	this list, in my filtered inbox, what I see for my name is:
	"main.Techtalk@groups.io <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io>
<mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io> <mailto:main.Techtalk@groups.io>  .  Carlos
says my
	name is listed to others, but for some reason, since this change to
the
	group configuration, I don't see my own name on my messages to this
list.
	
	
	
	
	
	On 5/9/2016 8:00 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
	
	
		Hi, Norman, 
		
		
		The other problem I'm having is that when I get a message
back
	that's from me, I don't hear my name read out. There's definitely
something
	wrong with thunderbird. 
		
		
		Rosemarie 
		
		
		
		
		On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, Norman wrote: 
		
	
	
			Hi. 
			
			Let me make sure i have the steps down correctly. 
			
			You read a message and wish to reply to it so you
hit
	control r. 
			
			You start typing and it seems like your screen
reader is
	trying to navigate a webpage, for example by heading if you press h.

			
			If this is the case Just hit shift tab to go to the
subject
	and then tab again to go back to the message body. 
			
			You should be able to type now. 
			
			I have had this happen to me as well and i would
guess that
	the screen reader is not correctly recognizing the window type. 
			
			For me it is not consistent and i can't reproduce at
will
	but if someone can maybe a bug report would be helpful? 
			
			
			
			On 5/9/2016 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: 
			
	
	
				Hi, everyone, 
				
				Recently when I tried to reply to messages
in
	thunderbird, I'd get a message like "no previous heading" or
something like
	that. I don't know why that happens because I hit control R which is
the
	reply command. Any help with this problem would be greatly
appreciated. I'm
	using outlook to write this message but I actually like thunderbird
much
	better. 
				
				Thanks for your help in advance. 
				
				Rosemarie 
				
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	--
	They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
	They ask: "How Happy are You?"
	I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"