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Re: DictationBridge demo up

Mallard
 

Hello Pranav,

Thanks. I never noticed àWindows Speech Recognition, because Bexie disabled all apps requiring a microphone. I'll have to re-inable int then...


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 11/05/2016 02:20, Pranav Lal ha scritto:
Hi Ollie,

Thanks for donating. As for windows speech-recognition, you can activate it from
the windows control pannel.
1. Launch the windows control pannel.
2. Hit the letter "s" until you hear "speech-recognition."
3. Follow the prompts.

Note:
When training, you will have to use object navigation to read the training text.
One of the things that DictationBridge plans to do is to make NVDA work better
with the WSR interface.

Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 3:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up

Pranav,


I've downloaded the add-on, but I don't have either dictation programme at the
moment, so I can't try it out.

I've contributed to the crowdfunding campaign though. I believe in this sort of
projects, that can make life easier for blind and visually impaired people.


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 10/05/2016 03:07, Pranav Lal ha scritto:
Thanks Ollie. Do give the demo a try.

Everyone, the crowd funding campaign is up at
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dictationbridge/
so please contribute and spread the word.
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mallard
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 10:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up

Ciao Pranav,


Thanks millions.

Ollie





Il 09/05/2016 18:58, Pranav Lal ha scritto:
Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA
add-on is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-a
v
ailable/

Pranav













Re: Slightly OT - tiling windows under windows 10, to allow drag and drop using NVDA, with the mouse cursor

Jacob Kruger
 

Came across mention of that, which they refer to as windows snapping, but, didn't seem to cooperate, but, will play around with it some more.

Thanks

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Le Baudour" <p.lebaudour@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 11 May, 2016 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slightly OT - tiling windows under windows 10, to allow drag and drop using NVDA, with the mouse cursor


Hi,
If I remember correctly, windows+left/right and windows+up/down shortcuts should allow that.

-- Patrick.

Le 10/05/2016 à 20:26, Jacob Kruger a écrit :
If remember correctly, in things like windows 7 task manager, you could
easily enough tell it to tile two windows side by side, etc. to then
allow you to use forms of drag and drop from window to window, using a
screen reader implementation of the mouse cursor.

However, in windows 10, the new version of the task manager doesn't seem
to offer that too easily, so was just wondering if anyone knows of/can
think of a relatively simple way to have two windows open, and to get
them to line themselves up tiled either horizontally across, or
vertically up and down on the screen, to then use the key combo of shift
+ numpad / to lock left mouse button on selected items, and then move
over to target area/element in other window, route mouse cursor to
navigator object using NVDA + numpad /, and then use the same keystroke
as earlier to finish off the drag and drop operation?

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"


.


Re: NVDA log?

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

C:\Users\userName\AppData\Local\Temp
or simply
%temp%

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Matt Turner
Data: quarta-feira, 11 de maio de 2016 17:15
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] NVDA log?

Hi, anyone no where NVDA keeps it's logs for when it crashes?
Still having the same problem in iTunes.


Re: DictationBridge demo up

Arianna Sepulveda
 

If you're talking about donating to the Dictation Bridge project, you can donate a custom amount. There's an edit box you can type an amount into.


Thanks,
Ari

On May 11, 2016, at 3:17 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi, thanks for your answer, I have used the addon and yes it works and as said proves the code works. I will await the next version I a few weeks ago was going to donate but it won't be much but the least amount I saw was 25$s I can not give that much did I miss something? thanks in advance and keep up the good work. on another matter when I try to post using this e-mail address to the list for this project I get something back about not being aloud to post to this list and my post awaits one of the mods approve! I subscribed using this mail address but can't post? seems strange.

On 11/05/2016 01:20, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi Kevin,

Indeed, DictationBridge cannot help with recognition accuracy. However, once
completed, it will help in making the training interface easier to use with NVDA
which will also increase recognition accuracy.

Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Cussick via Groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 2:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up

Hi, yes it does but the Scottish accent loads of mistakes. don't
really think this is the fault of the addon but the fault of the ms speech
recognition program.

On 10/05/2016 02:07, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi Kevin and all,

There are no keystrokes. Launch either Dragon or Microsoft Windows
speech-recognition and start dictating. The add-on will echo back text
using NVDA.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Cussick via Groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 3:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up

Hi, I have installed the addon, but can't find any keystrokes to get
started help please thanks.

On 09/05/2016 17:58, Pranav Lal wrote:
Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA
add-on is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-a
v
ailable/

Pranav


NVDA log?

Matt Turner
 

Hi, anyone no where NVDA keeps it's logs for when it crashes?
Still having the same problem in iTunes.


Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Lino Morales
 

Well Gene I did download and install it yesterday. Its working well.


On 5/11/2016 9:35 AM, Gene wrote:
It is valid to raise questions about something if you don't know whether the author is trustworthy.  Someone could design a malicious add on.  But instead of just expressing doubt or a question, asking for more information from the list would make much more sense.  The person raising doubts may not know of james Schole's (spelling) reputation.  But once informed, the reputation speaks for itself. 
 
There is no criminality nor slander nor libel involved.  But instead of just expressing doubts, reliable information should be sought.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

How absurd! How can one accuse someone of malicious intentions without
evidence of that whatsoever? I tell you... One must be quite arrogant to
do so!

If I were the person accused, I would simply take the accuser to courts
in no time at all...

I think one should be very careful with the rumors one spreads about others.


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 11/05/2016 03:54, Kwork ha scritto:
> Hi,
> The couple of times I've used the add-on since the recent signing have
> been met with success. I've known James on and off for a few years
> now, and find him to be a decent human being, and an end computer user
> out of the UK just trying to help keep life as accessible for us as he
> can with his programming knowledge.
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> I don't know him in a personal sense either.  I know his reputation. 
> I follow two blind technology discussion lists aside from this one and
> I know that many people are using it.  I haven't seen one complaint. 
> Perhaps others will vouch for him and the add on.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:37 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> Good. Glad you aren't giving me a hard time. Mods shouldn't do so on
> any list list anyway unless the mod he/she is a complete a$$$ by
> nature. I just simply don't trust it that's all. I guess one way to
> see if it truly works under FF 46 is to download it. I don't know the
> guy. I guess that's part of why I'm hesitant to get it.
>
>
> On 5/10/2016 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:
>> So you are suspicious that James Scholes is intentionally turning the
>> add on into something malicious?  Based on his reputation, that's
>> just groundless.
>> I haven't checked to see who else has written about the add on but
>> Blind Bargains has.  They are a respected source and I hardly think
>> they would wrecklessly provide information about add ons or other
>> such items.
>> Saying that's just my opinion, as though all opinions are equal is
>> not correct.  You provide no grouds for your opinion except
>> suspicion.  I have provided the reputation of the person who had the
>> add on signed, it's excellent, and the reputation of a source that
>> spread information about the add on.
>> I'm not trying to give you a hard time but, given the amount of
>> interest in Webvisum, I want to discourage unfounded suspicion.
>> gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:14 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>> well!
>>
>> Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't
>> care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the
>> former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA
>> solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE
>> 11, and IOS later on down the road.
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
>>> The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one.  it was
>>> taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted
>>> member of the blind computer using community.  Nothing was changed
>>> except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate. 
>>> I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this
>>> community will vouch for him.  There is no reason to believe the add
>>> on is unsafe.
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>>> well!
>>>
>>> If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
>>> you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
>>> said "convoluted add-on".
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> > Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
>>> > it any longer then...
>>> >
>>> > Ciao,
>>> >
>>> > Ollie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
>>> >>
>>> >> Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
>>> >> Mozilla and it now works.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> >>> Hello all,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
>>> >>> stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
>>> >>> but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
>>> >>> Good news!
>>> >>> Ciao,
>>> >>> Ollie
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>>> >> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>>> >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>





Re: Slightly OT - tiling windows under windows 10, to allow drag and drop using NVDA, with the mouse cursor

Patrick Le Baudour
 

Hi,
If I remember correctly, windows+left/right and windows+up/down shortcuts should allow that.

-- Patrick.

Le 10/05/2016 à 20:26, Jacob Kruger a écrit :
If remember correctly, in things like windows 7 task manager, you could
easily enough tell it to tile two windows side by side, etc. to then
allow you to use forms of drag and drop from window to window, using a
screen reader implementation of the mouse cursor.

However, in windows 10, the new version of the task manager doesn't seem
to offer that too easily, so was just wondering if anyone knows of/can
think of a relatively simple way to have two windows open, and to get
them to line themselves up tiled either horizontally across, or
vertically up and down on the screen, to then use the key combo of shift
+ numpad / to lock left mouse button on selected items, and then move
over to target area/element in other window, route mouse cursor to
navigator object using NVDA + numpad /, and then use the same keystroke
as earlier to finish off the drag and drop operation?

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"


.


Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Gene
 

It is valid to raise questions about something if you don't know whether the author is trustworthy.  Someone could design a malicious add on.  But instead of just expressing doubt or a question, asking for more information from the list would make much more sense.  The person raising doubts may not know of james Schole's (spelling) reputation.  But once informed, the reputation speaks for itself. 
 
There is no criminality nor slander nor libel involved.  But instead of just expressing doubts, reliable information should be sought.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

How absurd! How can one accuse someone of malicious intentions without
evidence of that whatsoever? I tell you... One must be quite arrogant to
do so!

If I were the person accused, I would simply take the accuser to courts
in no time at all...

I think one should be very careful with the rumors one spreads about others.


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 11/05/2016 03:54, Kwork ha scritto:
> Hi,
> The couple of times I've used the add-on since the recent signing have
> been met with success. I've known James on and off for a few years
> now, and find him to be a decent human being, and an end computer user
> out of the UK just trying to help keep life as accessible for us as he
> can with his programming knowledge.
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> I don't know him in a personal sense either.  I know his reputation. 
> I follow two blind technology discussion lists aside from this one and
> I know that many people are using it.  I haven't seen one complaint. 
> Perhaps others will vouch for him and the add on.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:37 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!
>
> Good. Glad you aren't giving me a hard time. Mods shouldn't do so on
> any list list anyway unless the mod he/she is a complete a$$$ by
> nature. I just simply don't trust it that's all. I guess one way to
> see if it truly works under FF 46 is to download it. I don't know the
> guy. I guess that's part of why I'm hesitant to get it.
>
>
> On 5/10/2016 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:
>> So you are suspicious that James Scholes is intentionally turning the
>> add on into something malicious?  Based on his reputation, that's
>> just groundless.
>> I haven't checked to see who else has written about the add on but
>> Blind Bargains has.  They are a respected source and I hardly think
>> they would wrecklessly provide information about add ons or other
>> such items.
>> Saying that's just my opinion, as though all opinions are equal is
>> not correct.  You provide no grouds for your opinion except
>> suspicion.  I have provided the reputation of the person who had the
>> add on signed, it's excellent, and the reputation of a source that
>> spread information about the add on.
>> I'm not trying to give you a hard time but, given the amount of
>> interest in Webvisum, I want to discourage unfounded suspicion.
>> gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:14 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>> well!
>>
>> Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't
>> care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the
>> former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA
>> solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE
>> 11, and IOS later on down the road.
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
>>> The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one.  it was
>>> taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted
>>> member of the blind computer using community.  Nothing was changed
>>> except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate. 
>>> I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this
>>> community will vouch for him.  There is no reason to believe the add
>>> on is unsafe.
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
>>> well!
>>>
>>> If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
>>> you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
>>> said "convoluted add-on".
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> > Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
>>> > it any longer then...
>>> >
>>> > Ciao,
>>> >
>>> > Ollie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
>>> >>
>>> >> Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
>>> >> Mozilla and it now works.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
>>> >>> Hello all,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
>>> >>> stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
>>> >>> but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
>>> >>> Good news!
>>> >>> Ciao,
>>> >>> Ollie
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>>> >> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>>> >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>




Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Mallard
 

How absurd! How can one accuse someone of malicious intentions without evidence of that whatsoever? I tell you... One must be quite arrogant to do so!

If I were the person accused, I would simply take the accuser to courts in no time at all...

I think one should be very careful with the rumors one spreads about others.


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 11/05/2016 03:54, Kwork ha scritto:
Hi,
The couple of times I've used the add-on since the recent signing have been met with success. I've known James on and off for a few years now, and find him to be a decent human being, and an end computer user out of the UK just trying to help keep life as accessible for us as he can with his programming knowledge.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:46 PM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

I don't know him in a personal sense either. I know his reputation. I follow two blind technology discussion lists aside from this one and I know that many people are using it. I haven't seen one complaint. Perhaps others will vouch for him and the add on.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:37 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Good. Glad you aren't giving me a hard time. Mods shouldn't do so on any list list anyway unless the mod he/she is a complete a$$$ by nature. I just simply don't trust it that's all. I guess one way to see if it truly works under FF 46 is to download it. I don't know the guy. I guess that's part of why I'm hesitant to get it.


On 5/10/2016 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:
So you are suspicious that James Scholes is intentionally turning the add on into something malicious? Based on his reputation, that's just groundless.
I haven't checked to see who else has written about the add on but Blind Bargains has. They are a respected source and I hardly think they would wrecklessly provide information about add ons or other such items.
Saying that's just my opinion, as though all opinions are equal is not correct. You provide no grouds for your opinion except suspicion. I have provided the reputation of the person who had the add on signed, it's excellent, and the reputation of a source that spread information about the add on.
I'm not trying to give you a hard time but, given the amount of interest in Webvisum, I want to discourage unfounded suspicion.
gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:14 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the former programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA solver. I'm hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE 11, and IOS later on down the road.


On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one. it was taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted member of the blind computer using community. Nothing was changed except that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate. I don't remember the name now, but numerous members of this community will vouch for him. There is no reason to believe the add on is unsafe.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
said "convoluted add-on".


On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
it any longer then...

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
Mozilla and it now works.



On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello all,

I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
Good news!
Ciao,
Ollie



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




NVDACon Asia Survey Follow-up: Planning Committee E-group Created, Please Join

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,
In follow-up to the previously conducted survey intended to ascertain
the amount of interest in the South Asian community in a users and
developers conference for the free and open source Non Visual Desktop
Access screen reader, we are pleased to inform you that we received an
overwhelming number of responses that has invigorated us to further
this initiative.
Now, in order to initiate further dialogue between interested people,
a planning, organisation and discussion e-group has been created by
the name of NVDACon Asia.
If you would like to potentially participate in this conference as an
Asian and either an existing NVDA user and supporter, possibly
considering to switch to NVDA from commercial screen readers, or
simply would like to follow this initiative even as a rehabilitations
trainer, and would perhaps like to contribute in making this a
reality, please join the NVDACon Asia group by sending a blank mail to
nvdacon-asia+subscribe@groups.io
You can also visit the NVDACon Asia Planning Committee group’s
homepage at groups.io/g/nvdacon-asia
Although we would like to specifically usher all keenness displaying
survey respondents to naturally join the group, in case you missed the
survey but would like to be a part of this project, please feel free
to join us and spread the word about it too!

Sincerely looking forward to having many of you all on board!
P.S. In case you have any questions or doubts about NVDACon Asia,
please feel free to reach out to Bhavya.shah125@...

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
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Re: An issue with the Windows Explorer of Windows 10

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Yes indeed, I thought it might be classic shell. I also get a similar issue when explorer is invoked to to save or open a file inside an application in both windows 10 and 7 sometimes as well. Its as if its permanently lost focus, anas switching away seems to show nvda is still working fine on other open windows. Even setting explorer so it can open multiple windows works but not in the one that has died.
Very strange and because its intermittent not easy to troubleshoot in the log as it appears there is nothing in the log about it.
Its a bit of a muddled mess in win ten though as that audio ducking logging is splattered all over the place making it hard to follow. I see Jamie has created a new snap that allows this logging to be turned off, so I may wait till I get that and look again when I have time at the weekend.Until then its a bitof astrange one.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Afrim" <afrim.maja@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] An issue with the Windows Explorer of Windows 10


Hello everyone,

I am posting this message to ask you about an issue of windows 10, in
windows explorer, when using NVDA.

While NVDA works fast enough with Windows Explorer on windows 10, I am
facing a strange issue when deleting or renaming files. In precise, when I
delete/rename a file, NVDA will no longer speak the items on the folder.
Sometimes this problem does not occur, but most of the time it does.
Restarting NVDA fixes the issue, but if you delete another file, the issue
will persist as many times as you do it.

Is anyone else facing this problem? And if you are, is there anything I can
do to fix it? Or, should I file an issue to NVDA on Git Hob and see if the
developers will do anything?

Sincerely,

Afrim


Re: nvda with win 10 mail app

Rui Fontes
 

Hi!

NVDA+Shift+UpArrow.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene
Data: quarta-feira, 11 de maio de 2016 03:01
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] nvda with win 10 mail app


Using shift and down arrow means that NVDA can only see selected text at
least as you have it configured.

Is there an NVDA command to read selected text? If there is, I don't know
it. I'm not talking about the command to read text on the clipboard.

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott VanDeWalle
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda with win 10 mail app


Hello.



The other night I downloaded David's tutorial about the mail app with jaws.

It got me interested in how nvda now works with the mail app.

So I tried it.

It works pretty well, just a few issues I noticed so far that I thought I
should let people know about.



When reading a message, you must use shift and the down and up arrow keys to
read the message, it works but it isn't really practical as you could guess.

Also, I noticed you can not read the message back to yourself while
composing before you send it off.



Actually you can use the shift and arrows just like when you are reading a
message.



Also, I still need to figure out how to read the messages in order because
it appears the oldest one is at the top. Or is that the way it should work
so as to read them in proper order. i.e as they were sent out?



nd if I discover anything else, I will let you all know.



Scot

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: DictationBridge demo up

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, thanks for your answer, I have used the addon and yes it works and as said proves the code works. I will await the next version I a few weeks ago was going to donate but it won't be much but the least amount I saw was 25$s I can not give that much did I miss something? thanks in advance and keep up the good work. on another matter when I try to post using this e-mail address to the list for this project I get something back about not being aloud to post to this list and my post awaits one of the mods approve! I subscribed using this mail address but can't post? seems strange.

On 11/05/2016 01:20, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi Kevin,

Indeed, DictationBridge cannot help with recognition accuracy. However, once
completed, it will help in making the training interface easier to use with NVDA
which will also increase recognition accuracy.

Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Cussick via Groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 2:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up

Hi, yes it does but the Scottish accent loads of mistakes. don't
really think this is the fault of the addon but the fault of the ms speech
recognition program.

On 10/05/2016 02:07, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi Kevin and all,

There are no keystrokes. Launch either Dragon or Microsoft Windows
speech-recognition and start dictating. The add-on will echo back text
using NVDA.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Cussick via Groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 3:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DictationBridge demo up

Hi, I have installed the addon, but can't find any keystrokes to get
started help please thanks.

On 09/05/2016 17:58, Pranav Lal wrote:
Dear all,

A demonstration version of DictationBridge in the form of a NVDA
add-on is up at
http://dictationbridge.com/2016/05/09/dictationbridge-prototype-now-a
v
ailable/

Pranav











An issue with the Windows Explorer of Windows 10

afrim.maja@...
 

Hello everyone,

I am posting this message to ask you about an issue of windows 10, in windows explorer, when using NVDA.

While NVDA works fast enough with Windows Explorer on windows 10, I am facing a strange issue when deleting or renaming files. In precise, when I delete/rename a file, NVDA will no longer speak the items on the folder. Sometimes this problem does not occur, but most of the time it does. Restarting NVDA fixes the issue, but if you delete another file, the issue will persist as many times as you do it.

Is anyone else facing this problem? And if you are, is there anything I can do to fix it? Or, should I file an issue to NVDA on Git Hob and see if the developers will do anything?

Sincerely,

Afrim


Re: CCleaner on Windows 8.1: programs to be uninstalled list not directly read

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Andre,
Which version of CCleaner on what system environment (Windows version,
bit architecture etc.)?
Also, I have NVDA version 2016.1 RC 1 installed on my new system at
the moment. That is because I installed it from a portable copy, and
version 2016.1's portable copy was what I happened to have created.
Thanks.

On 5/11/16, Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
I don't have this problem.

On 5/10/16, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
Yeah I am. I forget the version number. It came out bout 3 weeks agon.


On 5/10/2016 3:44 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Leeno,
No, it still is the same for me. I need to Tab ahead and back to read
each list item normally. Are you on the latest version of CCleaner?
As time permits, I will try updating the version of CCleaner on my
older laptop to the latest one as well, and then report back to the
list.
Thanks.

On 5/11/16, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
Hey Bavia. I was able to read the list of programs. All I did was alt
tab from TB to C cleaner and for some reason NVDA is reading the list
of
items.


On 5/10/2016 3:26 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
Having purchased a new computer, currently powered by Windows 8.1
Professional, I went about installing some of the necessary programs I
would require. One of them being CCleaner, I installed it from
piriform.com on my current 64 bit system.
However, although frankly speaking, I haven't really done anything
whatsoever with it, I did do this - press Tools button and Tab to the
list of programs to be uninstalled list box. The weirdest
accessibility problem I am facing in this list which was never
experienced by me on my Windows 7 32 bit previous laptop is that
arrowing does not read the name of the newly focused program name
item. What I need to do in order to work around this is arrow to the
next or previous program, and then Shift Tab and Tab back or the vice
versa and then upon renewed focus on the list box, the new item name,
which is the default focus is read out.
This is an especially strange thing I have observed, and would like to
confirm from other people out here whether this is a universally
occurring bug or something odd I am experiencing.
If further testing or information is needed, I am anyways probably
going to try some object navigation and review modes and stuff to get
this information spoken directly, and would also be happy to provide
any log if developers feel imperative.
Thanks.







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reader for Microsoft Windows
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http://www.nvaccess.org/
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Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

P. Otter
 

hi, what programm do you meen, is it a new one to solve capcha's?
and if so, do you have a link?
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!


Hmmm if it is as good as webvism since that also does some access and if it works better than rumola does then I will buy it, I use chicken nugget made by him every day.



On 11/05/2016 7:14 a.m., Lino Morales wrote:
Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't
care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the former
programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA solver. I'm
hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE 11, and IOS
later on down the road.


On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one. it was
taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted member
of the blind computer using community. Nothing was changed except
that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate. I don't
remember the name now, but numerous members of this community will
vouch for him. There is no reason to believe the add on is unsafe.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
well!

If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
said "convoluted add-on".


On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
it any longer then...

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
Mozilla and it now works.



On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello all,

I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
Good news!
Ciao,
Ollie



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"





Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

 

Hmmm if it is as good as webvism since that also does some access and if it works better than rumola does then I will buy it, I use chicken nugget made by him every day.

On 11/05/2016 7:14 a.m., Lino Morales wrote:
Well OK this is your opinion. It was James Sholes, but still I don't
care what rigamarole he whent though to sign it. Chris Taught the former
programmer of the Qube is in the process of writing a CAPTIA solver. I'm
hoping to see it's release soon. It will work with FF, IE 11, and IOS
later on down the road.


On 5/10/2016 3:03 PM, Gene wrote:
The, as you characterize it, convoluted add on is not one. it was
taken through the signing procedure by a respected and trusted member
of the blind computer using community. Nothing was changed except
that it is signed in a way Firefox recognizes as legitimate. I don't
remember the name now, but numerous members of this community will
vouch for him. There is no reason to believe the add on is unsafe.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly
well!

If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
said "convoluted add-on".


On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
it any longer then...

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
Mozilla and it now works.



On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello all,

I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
Good news!
Ciao,
Ollie



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"





Re: Firefox 46.0.1 and Webvisum: Working perfectly well!

 

well there is a link to the blind bargins site for it somewhere I forget.
its made by mr scholes, the guy that made the codex program, well he decided to hack this in his spare time.

On 11/05/2016 6:44 a.m., Lino Morales wrote:
If you try and download it off the Web Visum site FF will sill prevent
you from downloading a unverified add-on. I don't trust this as Brian
said "convoluted add-on".


On 5/10/2016 9:12 AM, Mallard wrote:
Oh, that's really great! Finally! We won't have to worry about losing
it any longer then...

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 10/05/2016 12:53, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Somebody signed it through the convoluted process of doing that for
Mozilla and it now works.



On 5/10/2016 6:21 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello all,

I've just updated to Firefox 46.0.1, thinking that Webvisum would
stop working. I was ready to set up a portable of an older version,
but... SURPRISE! Webvisum is working as usual...
Good news!
Ciao,
Ollie



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




.


About Whatsabb web version and app version

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hi, Before I knew that Whatsabb is not accessible. Do the problem still exist?

Today, knew that whatsabb has offered a app version for win and mac, did anyone has installed it on a win computer and tested it?
Thank


Re: Slightly OT - tiling windows under windows 10, to allow drag and drop using NVDA, with the mouse cursor

Jacob Kruger
 

Ok, while haven't tested this, something did come to mind - I use autosizer to maximise certain windows automatically, just in case, and I 'see' it does also have a 'position/size' option, so might try play around with that at some stage, but, in the meantime, made another workaround.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 10 May, 2016 8:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Slightly OT - tiling windows under windows 10, to allow drag and drop using NVDA, with the mouse cursor


If remember correctly, in things like windows 7 task manager, you could easily enough tell it to tile two windows side by side, etc. to then allow you to use forms of drag and drop from window to window, using a screen reader implementation of the mouse cursor.

However, in windows 10, the new version of the task manager doesn't seem to offer that too easily, so was just wondering if anyone knows of/can think of a relatively simple way to have two windows open, and to get them to line themselves up tiled either horizontally across, or vertically up and down on the screen, to then use the key combo of shift + numpad / to lock left mouse button on selected items, and then move over to target area/element in other window, route mouse cursor to navigator object using NVDA + numpad /, and then use the same keystroke as earlier to finish off the drag and drop operation?

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"