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Re: new technology challenge

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Evening nvda list subscribers

I am Marisane from SA.

I've just bought a win10 machine.

I've had it for a month now.

It's been giving me problems I've not experienced in my life of using
windows operating system machines.

This win10 machine consumes more data than I can understand.

I am contracted to one of SA's network operators (Vodacom).

I receive 4 gb (2 gb per day and 2 gb per night).

The minute I connect my mobile wifi modem, much data is consumed.

What is win10 doing different from what was done by win7?

What extra apps are installed/updated?
Can I delay the update or will this disadvantage my machine? In other
words, will my delaying the update lead my machine to being attacked
by viruses?

How many times should this data-consuming update happen in a month?

What setting do I have to turn off to save data?

Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.
Marisane

On 5/20/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Pleasure, Mack. Glad it helped.

On 5/20/18, mcLeod stinnett <macks75205@gmail.com> wrote:


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e
s r. and nvda 2017.3




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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Lino Morales
 

Hi. Just wanted to let you all know if you didn’t know already as of the middle of August we will no longer have access to the 3rd party apps that work with Twitter such as TW Blue etc. So if you are on WIN 10 use the newly improved Twitter UWP app which is accessible. They are changing their API for 3rd party access so if you want to complain to Twitter do so in the appropriate places.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Marcia Yale
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

 

I use Chicken Nugget on my Windows machine and it works great with NVDA. Usually the follow/unfollow commands are on the user details or profile screen, so find that screen in TW Blue and you should be able to find the buttons for following.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:51 AM

To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

 

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option.  I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source.  Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

 

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Re: open live writer is not accessible yet.

Jackie
 

Unfortunately, I don't know of any country where opensource voluntary
efforts are covered by law.

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I'd have said to them, because we are just as much users as everyone else
and we hate discrimination. I do not know what the law says in the country
you or the software writers are in, but a bit of gentle suggestion about the

legality of such things can reap rewards, as long as you are persistent.
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] open live writer is not accessible yet.


hey guys, this windows desktop client looks like it is gonna be a great
blog editor and overall blogging software. Only problem is, the editor is

not accessible to NVDA and I am assuming JAWS. the menus and options are
accessible, but the editor itself is made out of some kind of HTML frame.

NVDA treats it like a web page rather than a text editor. The
accessibility thread is below but it is basically me trying to get others

to understand how a screen reader works and why they should make open live

writer accessible.

https://github.com/OpenLiveWriter/OpenLiveWriter/issues/394






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Re: Braillesense plus with NVDA

Abbie Taylor
 

Have you updated to the latest and greatest creator's spring edition? I have, and I'm noticing a similar issue with my BrailleNote Touch. I learned from Humanware that the current version of NVDA does not support the BrailleNote Touch, and I'll have to wait until June when NVDA Version 2018.2 comes out. I'm afraid that might be the case with you as well, but for your sake, I hope I'm wrong.

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On May 20, 2018 8:41 AM, David Reynolds <david@dkreynolds.plus.com> wrote:

Hi,


Using the latest version of NVDA, I'm trying to use my Braillesense plus
as a Braille display. I did the following:

Connected the Plus using a USB cable to my computer.

Select Braille in the options menu.

Select HIMS in the list of Braille displays.

Selected Automatic from the list of ports

Hit the OK button.

After a considerable pause, an error message is displayed.

What am I getting wrong. I've also tried with Bluetooth with similar
results,


Many thanks for any help/suggestions,


David.





Re: new technology challenge

Jackie
 

Pleasure, Mack. Glad it helped.

On 5/20/18, mcLeod stinnett <macks75205@gmail.com> wrote:


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from mack Jackie, thank you so much. that worked just fine in firefox 52, e
s r. and nvda 2017.3



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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
 

I think the key combo you mean is control-windows-s.  I just tried that and it did open the User Actions menu.

On 5/20/2018 9:43 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
It's Alt+Win+Shift+S and it's called 'Open the User Action Menu' - once that dialogue's open, you can tab around to find the options to follow, unfollow, block etc.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 13:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

I have reviewed all of the keyboard shortcuts in TW Blue and find none for "unfollow" or "followw".

Rich De Steno

On 5/20/2018 8:20 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
If you press Alt+Win+K in TW Blue, you will bring up the keyboard manager and be able to find what you're looking for in there - I can't remember the keystroke off the top of my head, I'm afraid - assuming you haven't disabled this shortcut combination, of course.

Cheers
Richard Bartholomew


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De
Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 12:51
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

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Rich De Steno













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Braillesense plus with NVDA

david@...
 

Hi,


Using the latest version of NVDA, I'm trying to use my Braillesense plus as a Braille display. I did the following:

Connected the Plus using a USB cable to my computer.

Select Braille in the options menu.

Select HIMS in the list of Braille displays.

Selected Automatic from the list of ports

Hit the OK button.

After a considerable pause, an error message is displayed.

What am I getting wrong. I've also tried with Bluetooth with similar results,


Many thanks for any help/suggestions,


David.


Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
 

Okay, now I do see "follow", "unfollow" and other things when you press Enter on "actions" in the User dropdown menu.  Thanks.


On 5/20/2018 9:58 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
I use the menu in TWBlue more than shortcut keys, but to follow or unfollow people mentioned in a tweet or from the searches, then I go to the user menu (ALT+u) which takes me straight away to the actions item, which is where you follow or unfollow people. If more than one user is mentioned then you'll find a combo box with the people mentioned, and you should select which person you want to apply the action to. I don't know what the autocomplete users button does because I've never used it. Next press of the tab key takes you to a list of actions you can apply, which are follow, unfolow, mute (their tweets do not show up in your timeline but you are still following them), block, unblock, and report as spam .. you navigate through those options using the cursor arrows, down or right take you down the list, and up or left take you back up the list. Tab to the OK button and you've applied the action to that account, i.e. you've followed them if that was the action you chose :)

Giles

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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Giles Turnbull
 

just to add, the application key does offer such options because the first item when you press the applications key is User Actions, which takes you to the meny I've just described.

Hope this helps :)

Giles


Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Giles Turnbull
 

I use the menu in TWBlue more than shortcut keys, but to follow or unfollow people mentioned in a tweet or from the searches, then I go to the user menu (ALT+u) which takes me straight away to the actions item, which is where you follow or unfollow people. If more than one user is mentioned then you'll find a combo box with the people mentioned, and you should select which person you want to apply the action to. I don't know what the autocomplete users button does because I've never used it. Next press of the tab key takes you to a list of actions you can apply, which are follow, unfolow, mute (their tweets do not show up in your timeline but you are still following them), block, unblock, and report as spam .. you navigate through those options using the cursor arrows, down or right take you down the list, and up or left take you back up the list. Tab to the OK button and you've applied the action to that account, i.e. you've followed them if that was the action you chose :)

Giles


Re: Call me stupid but..

Richard Wells
 

This is no comfort to you Brian, but I am successfully running Google Backup and Sync on several Windows 10 computers. There has to be something on your particular configuration that is preventing it from running. I don't have anything here to test Windows 7 on, but Backup and Sync should work there as well.

On 5/20/2018 2:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No sign of it. However using ninite or whatever certainly it installed, but no matter what I tried it crashed on launch, and left itself in a bit of a mess. the log in does not work, ie the fields are not  shown, but they do say log in using your browser, and  you do this and it looks like its looked but  no way to get the actual drive to work. it crashed  on a computer restart. its just as crappy on 7 as it was when back up and sync first appeared. if this is the standard of testing that goes on at Google towers, tough, I wasted far too much time on it. It should just work.Add to that it won't even install on xp without a cryptic error about a missing kernel call or somesuch.
So I'm on the look out for a back up cloud solution, I have dropbox but I'd like some kind of  or file solution that is not restricted to 64 bit computers or  has windows 7 as the lowest windows.
Still lots of computers out there running xp.
I do think that when people design software they should actually not be so unhelpful as to  just fall over and  leave computers in a mess. I spent an age removing all the clutter of Googles antics yesterday afternoon.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Wocher" <gwocher@gwocher.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Call me stupid but..


Hello,
On the drive page, after hitting the download, you have to search the page for the accept link. I ran into this issue as well.

Greg Wocher

On May 19, 2018, at 3:22 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I did that and nothing actually happened which is why I mentioned it here. Not sure that the other site will be up to date. Does it still just download the stub?
Brian

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Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Call me stupid but..


Hello,

Alternatively, you can go to drive.google.com, press space on Settings, and enter on Download Backup and Sync.

All the best,

Vlad.







Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Marcia Yale
 

I use Chicken Nugget on my Windows machine and it works great with NVDA. Usually the follow/unfollow commands are on the user details or profile screen, so find that screen in TW Blue and you should be able to find the buttons for following.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:51 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

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Rich De Steno


Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Richard Bartholomew
 

It's Alt+Win+Shift+S and it's called 'Open the User Action Menu' - once that dialogue's open, you can tab around to find the options to follow, unfollow, block etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 13:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

I have reviewed all of the keyboard shortcuts in TW Blue and find none for "unfollow" or "followw".

Rich De Steno

On 5/20/2018 8:20 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
If you press Alt+Win+K in TW Blue, you will bring up the keyboard manager and be able to find what you're looking for in there - I can't remember the keystroke off the top of my head, I'm afraid - assuming you haven't disabled this shortcut combination, of course.

Cheers
Richard Bartholomew


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De
Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 12:51
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

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Re: new technology challenge

mcLeod stinnett
 

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from mack Jackie, thank you so much. that worked just fine in firefox 52, e s r. and nvda 2017.3


Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
 

I have reviewed all of the keyboard shortcuts in TW Blue and find none for "unfollow" or "followw".

Rich De Steno

On 5/20/2018 8:20 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
If you press Alt+Win+K in TW Blue, you will bring up the keyboard manager and be able to find what you're looking for in there - I can't remember the keystroke off the top of my head, I'm afraid - assuming you haven't disabled this shortcut combination, of course.

Cheers
Richard Bartholomew


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 12:51
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno








Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Richard Bartholomew
 

If you press Alt+Win+K in TW Blue, you will bring up the keyboard manager and be able to find what you're looking for in there - I can't remember the keystroke off the top of my head, I'm afraid - assuming you haven't disabled this shortcut combination, of course.

Cheers
Richard Bartholomew

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 12:51
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno


Re: Call me stupid but..

 

There is i drive though I haven

't tried it.

There is also expanddrive which costs but is supposed to interface with the cloud and you can store and download readily without actually storing on your system.

Your cloud drives are network drives thats costing 75 bucks though still its a thought.

As for google.

Yeah it crashes a lot and has that stupid window popping up.

Worse when I updated my dad's system after a fresh install, and after an unsuccessfull login attempt it decided that I was a hacker, that my system was suspect and then windows refused to do anything at all.

Eventually after changing passwords, and then logging in on a brouser on a different system I was able to fix that, followed by another reformat to get windows to work again, then it worked.

But it certainly is flakey as hell.

I was able to set where things went and its interface was accessible but to be honest, its no longer something I'd use.

I am tempted by 1 drive.

The only reason I am tempted is if I ever get an office 365 sub, its not happening any time soon but the sub, the skype minutes, and the space does interest me a deal.

I drive does interest me but it doesn't support expandrive and I have yet to decide if I will buy that for myself.

I don'

't put to much stuff to the cloud, some backups of programs I can't get right now, a few projects but not many now days, some backups of password protected files favorites, and personal junk, and well a few other odds and ends, most stuff is still on external disk though.

On 5/20/2018 7:55 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No sign of it. However using ninite or whatever certainly it installed, but no matter what I tried it crashed on launch, and left itself in a bit of a mess. the log in does not work, ie the fields are not  shown, but they do say log in using your browser, and  you do this and it looks like its looked but  no way to get the actual drive to work. it crashed  on a computer restart. its just as crappy on 7 as it was when back up and sync first appeared. if this is the standard of testing that goes on at Google towers, tough, I wasted far too much time on it. It should just work.Add to that it won't even install on xp without a cryptic error about a missing kernel call or somesuch.
So I'm on the look out for a back up cloud solution, I have dropbox but I'd like some kind of  or file solution that is not restricted to 64 bit computers or  has windows 7 as the lowest windows.
Still lots of computers out there running xp.
I do think that when people design software they should actually not be so unhelpful as to  just fall over and  leave computers in a mess. I spent an age removing all the clutter of Googles antics yesterday afternoon.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Call me stupid but..


Hello,
On the drive page, after hitting the download, you have to search the page for the accept link. I ran into this issue as well.

Greg Wocher

On May 19, 2018, at 3:22 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I did that and nothing actually happened which is why I mentioned it here. Not sure that the other site will be up to date. Does it still just download the stub?
Brian

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Hello,

Alternatively, you can go to drive.google.com, press space on Settings, and enter on Download Backup and Sync.

All the best,

Vlad.








Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
 

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA.  The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option.  I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source.  Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno


Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

Steve Nutt
 

I’m assuming you haven’t tried it in the File Explorer app then?  That’s the bug I was reporting.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:28
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

I can't remember if I replied or not but lists are fine in the explorer.exe app. I'm so far knock on wood not having any issues as far as I can see, except for obs but that's probably a broken app.



On May 16, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I recently reported that Outlook message lists were not reading for me.

 

It is in fact worse than that, lists in general don’t seem to be reading.  For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me now.

 

JAWS is reading lists quite happily.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Re: open live writer is not accessible yet.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I'd have said to them, because we are just as much users as everyone else and we hate discrimination. I do not know what the law says in the country you or the software writers are in, but a bit of gentle suggestion about the legality of such things can reap rewards, as long as you are persistent.
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] open live writer is not accessible yet.


hey guys, this windows desktop client looks like it is gonna be a great blog editor and overall blogging software. Only problem is, the editor is not accessible to NVDA and I am assuming JAWS. the menus and options are accessible, but the editor itself is made out of some kind of HTML frame. NVDA treats it like a web page rather than a text editor. The accessibility thread is below but it is basically me trying to get others to understand how a screen reader works and why they should make open live writer accessible.

https://github.com/OpenLiveWriter/OpenLiveWriter/issues/394