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Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
I am running the latest version of NVDA on my HP laptop and I do not have any issues using NVDA with file explorer. I am also using the 1803 Windows update. 

Greg Wocher

On May 20, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

I’m assuming you haven’t tried it in the File Explorer app then?  That’s the bug I was reporting.
 
All the best

Steve
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:28
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
 
I can't remember if I replied or not but lists are fine in the explorer.exe app. I'm so far knock on wood not having any issues as far as I can see, except for obs but that's probably a broken app.


On May 16, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
 
Hi,
 
I recently reported that Outlook message lists were not reading for me.
 
It is in fact worse than that, lists in general don’t seem to be reading.  For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me now.
 
JAWS is reading lists quite happily.
 
Any thoughts?
 
Thanks.
 
All the best
 
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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Lino Morales
 

That is correct from what I understand it. You’ll still be able to use the native Twitter apps for IOS and android. But yeah the UWP app for WIN 10 or the website itself yes.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Mehler
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

 

Hello,

 

Does this effect android apps as well? So, August it sounds like your

saying it's the win10 app or nothing on that platform or the web site?

 

Thanks.

Dave.

 

 

On 5/20/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:

> Hi. Just wanted to let you all know if you didn’t know already as of the

> middle of August we will no longer have access to the 3rd party apps that

> work with Twitter such as TW Blue etc. So if you are on WIN 10 use the newly

> improved Twitter UWP app which is accessible. They are changing their API

> for 3rd party access so if you want to complain to Twitter do so in the

> appropriate places.

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Marcia Yale

> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:56 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

> I use Chicken Nugget on my Windows machine and it works great with NVDA.

> Usually the follow/unfollow commands are on the user details or profile

> screen, so find that screen in TW Blue and you should be able to find the

> buttons for following.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De

> Steno

> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:51 AM

> To: nvda@groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

> What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The

> official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your

> mouse", offering no keyboard option.  I am using TW Blue and find no

> keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source.  Even the

> applications key fails to offer such an option.

> --

> Rich De Steno

 

 

 


Re: Problems When tried Shutting Down NVDA

 

Yes, normal shutdown doesn't work. The only way I found to continue using my computer without restarting is how I said.
Em 20/05/2018 04:57, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

Areyousaying that the normal shutdown does not work? Its no good shutting down the process as its hooked into windows and may well cause a crash if you do that.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 4:13 PM
Subject: [nvda] Problems When tried Shutting Down NVDA


Hello,
Do you guys have these problems?
Since yesterday I just can't shutdown my NVDA by the task manager.
When I tried "taskkill /f /im nvda.exe" it gives me a error message.
And that's the only way I found to fix the bug that freezes my computer 'til I restart it. If I can be faster than the bug, I'm able to give the command to shut down the task and then it's alright.

Chheers,
Marcio





Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Does this effect android apps as well? So, August it sounds like your
saying it's the win10 app or nothing on that platform or the web site?

Thanks.
Dave.

On 5/20/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi. Just wanted to let you all know if you didn’t know already as of the
middle of August we will no longer have access to the 3rd party apps that
work with Twitter such as TW Blue etc. So if you are on WIN 10 use the newly
improved Twitter UWP app which is accessible. They are changing their API
for 3rd party access so if you want to complain to Twitter do so in the
appropriate places.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Marcia Yale
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

I use Chicken Nugget on my Windows machine and it works great with NVDA.
Usually the follow/unfollow commands are on the user details or profile
screen, so find that screen in TW Blue and you should be able to find the
buttons for following.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De
Steno
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:51 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The
official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your
mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no
keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the
applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno









Re: Problems When tried Shutting Down NVDA

 

I can't do it because as I've already said my computer have a weird bug that totally freezes any program and command I try to use. So I created a shortcut that allows me to be faster than the bug and I was able to make things right 'til I noticed it.

Em 19/05/2018 21:49, Abbie Taylor escreveu:

Have you tried NVDA plus Q. Alternatively, you can go to the NVDA menu and click on "Exit" at the bottom. Hope that helps.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
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On May 19, 2018 9:13 AM, "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:
Hello, 
Do you guys have these problems? 
Since yesterday I  just can't shutdown my NVDA by the task manager. 
When I tried "taskkill /f /im nvda.exe" it gives me a error message. 
And that's the only way I found to fix the bug that freezes my computer 
'til I restart it. If I can  be faster than the bug, I'm able to give 
the command to shut down the task and then it's alright. 

Chheers, 
Marcio 

 





Re: Braillesense plus with NVDA

 

Hi,
Also, I believe you need to tell Braille Sense Plus (hopefully with an 8.x firmware) that it needs to be in USB terminal mode, not the disk mode (unless it applies to U2 and later), and double-check that the HIMS driver is installed.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:04 AM
To: David Reynolds <david@dkreynolds.plus.com>
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Braillesense plus with NVDA

Have you updated to the latest and greatest creator's spring edition? I have, and I'm noticing a similar issue with my BrailleNote Touch. I learned from Humanware that the current version of NVDA does not support the BrailleNote Touch, and I'll have to wait until June when NVDA Version 2018.2 comes out. I'm afraid that might be the case with you as well, but for your sake, I hope I'm wrong.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com abbietaylor945@gmail.com Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 20, 2018 8:41 AM, David Reynolds <david@dkreynolds.plus.com> wrote:

Hi,


Using the latest version of NVDA, I'm trying to use my Braillesense
plus as a Braille display. I did the following:

Connected the Plus using a USB cable to my computer.

Select Braille in the options menu.

Select HIMS in the list of Braille displays.

Selected Automatic from the list of ports

Hit the OK button.

After a considerable pause, an error message is displayed.

What am I getting wrong. I've also tried with Bluetooth with similar
results,


Many thanks for any help/suggestions,


David.





Re: new technology challenge

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Evening nvda list subscribers

I am Marisane from SA.

I've just bought a win10 machine.

I've had it for a month now.

It's been giving me problems I've not experienced in my life of using
windows operating system machines.

This win10 machine consumes more data than I can understand.

I am contracted to one of SA's network operators (Vodacom).

I receive 4 gb (2 gb per day and 2 gb per night).

The minute I connect my mobile wifi modem, much data is consumed.

What is win10 doing different from what was done by win7?

What extra apps are installed/updated?
Can I delay the update or will this disadvantage my machine? In other
words, will my delaying the update lead my machine to being attacked
by viruses?

How many times should this data-consuming update happen in a month?

What setting do I have to turn off to save data?

Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.
Marisane

On 5/20/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Pleasure, Mack. Glad it helped.

On 5/20/18, mcLeod stinnett <macks75205@gmail.com> wrote:


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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Lino Morales
 

Hi. Just wanted to let you all know if you didn’t know already as of the middle of August we will no longer have access to the 3rd party apps that work with Twitter such as TW Blue etc. So if you are on WIN 10 use the newly improved Twitter UWP app which is accessible. They are changing their API for 3rd party access so if you want to complain to Twitter do so in the appropriate places.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Marcia Yale
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

 

I use Chicken Nugget on my Windows machine and it works great with NVDA. Usually the follow/unfollow commands are on the user details or profile screen, so find that screen in TW Blue and you should be able to find the buttons for following.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:51 AM

To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

 

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option.  I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source.  Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

 

--

Rich De Steno

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: open live writer is not accessible yet.

Jackie
 

Unfortunately, I don't know of any country where opensource voluntary
efforts are covered by law.

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I'd have said to them, because we are just as much users as everyone else
and we hate discrimination. I do not know what the law says in the country
you or the software writers are in, but a bit of gentle suggestion about the

legality of such things can reap rewards, as long as you are persistent.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:44 AM
Subject: [nvda] open live writer is not accessible yet.


hey guys, this windows desktop client looks like it is gonna be a great
blog editor and overall blogging software. Only problem is, the editor is

not accessible to NVDA and I am assuming JAWS. the menus and options are
accessible, but the editor itself is made out of some kind of HTML frame.

NVDA treats it like a web page rather than a text editor. The
accessibility thread is below but it is basically me trying to get others

to understand how a screen reader works and why they should make open live

writer accessible.

https://github.com/OpenLiveWriter/OpenLiveWriter/issues/394






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Re: Braillesense plus with NVDA

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

Have you updated to the latest and greatest creator's spring edition? I have, and I'm noticing a similar issue with my BrailleNote Touch. I learned from Humanware that the current version of NVDA does not support the BrailleNote Touch, and I'll have to wait until June when NVDA Version 2018.2 comes out. I'm afraid that might be the case with you as well, but for your sake, I hope I'm wrong.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
abbietaylor945@gmail.com
Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 20, 2018 8:41 AM, David Reynolds <david@dkreynolds.plus.com> wrote:

Hi,


Using the latest version of NVDA, I'm trying to use my Braillesense plus
as a Braille display. I did the following:

Connected the Plus using a USB cable to my computer.

Select Braille in the options menu.

Select HIMS in the list of Braille displays.

Selected Automatic from the list of ports

Hit the OK button.

After a considerable pause, an error message is displayed.

What am I getting wrong. I've also tried with Bluetooth with similar
results,


Many thanks for any help/suggestions,


David.





Re: new technology challenge

Jackie
 

Pleasure, Mack. Glad it helped.

On 5/20/18, mcLeod stinnett <macks75205@gmail.com> wrote:


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from mack Jackie, thank you so much. that worked just fine in firefox 52, e
s r. and nvda 2017.3



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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
 

I think the key combo you mean is control-windows-s.  I just tried that and it did open the User Actions menu.

On 5/20/2018 9:43 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
It's Alt+Win+Shift+S and it's called 'Open the User Action Menu' - once that dialogue's open, you can tab around to find the options to follow, unfollow, block etc.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 13:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

I have reviewed all of the keyboard shortcuts in TW Blue and find none for "unfollow" or "followw".

Rich De Steno

On 5/20/2018 8:20 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
If you press Alt+Win+K in TW Blue, you will bring up the keyboard manager and be able to find what you're looking for in there - I can't remember the keystroke off the top of my head, I'm afraid - assuming you haven't disabled this shortcut combination, of course.

Cheers
Richard Bartholomew


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De
Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 12:51
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno













--
Rich De Steno


Braillesense plus with NVDA

david@...
 

Hi,


Using the latest version of NVDA, I'm trying to use my Braillesense plus as a Braille display. I did the following:

Connected the Plus using a USB cable to my computer.

Select Braille in the options menu.

Select HIMS in the list of Braille displays.

Selected Automatic from the list of ports

Hit the OK button.

After a considerable pause, an error message is displayed.

What am I getting wrong. I've also tried with Bluetooth with similar results,


Many thanks for any help/suggestions,


David.


Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
 

Okay, now I do see "follow", "unfollow" and other things when you press Enter on "actions" in the User dropdown menu.  Thanks.


On 5/20/2018 9:58 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
I use the menu in TWBlue more than shortcut keys, but to follow or unfollow people mentioned in a tweet or from the searches, then I go to the user menu (ALT+u) which takes me straight away to the actions item, which is where you follow or unfollow people. If more than one user is mentioned then you'll find a combo box with the people mentioned, and you should select which person you want to apply the action to. I don't know what the autocomplete users button does because I've never used it. Next press of the tab key takes you to a list of actions you can apply, which are follow, unfolow, mute (their tweets do not show up in your timeline but you are still following them), block, unblock, and report as spam .. you navigate through those options using the cursor arrows, down or right take you down the list, and up or left take you back up the list. Tab to the OK button and you've applied the action to that account, i.e. you've followed them if that was the action you chose :)

Giles

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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Giles Turnbull
 

just to add, the application key does offer such options because the first item when you press the applications key is User Actions, which takes you to the meny I've just described.

Hope this helps :)

Giles


Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Giles Turnbull
 

I use the menu in TWBlue more than shortcut keys, but to follow or unfollow people mentioned in a tweet or from the searches, then I go to the user menu (ALT+u) which takes me straight away to the actions item, which is where you follow or unfollow people. If more than one user is mentioned then you'll find a combo box with the people mentioned, and you should select which person you want to apply the action to. I don't know what the autocomplete users button does because I've never used it. Next press of the tab key takes you to a list of actions you can apply, which are follow, unfolow, mute (their tweets do not show up in your timeline but you are still following them), block, unblock, and report as spam .. you navigate through those options using the cursor arrows, down or right take you down the list, and up or left take you back up the list. Tab to the OK button and you've applied the action to that account, i.e. you've followed them if that was the action you chose :)

Giles


Re: Call me stupid but..

Richard Wells
 

This is no comfort to you Brian, but I am successfully running Google Backup and Sync on several Windows 10 computers. There has to be something on your particular configuration that is preventing it from running. I don't have anything here to test Windows 7 on, but Backup and Sync should work there as well.

On 5/20/2018 2:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No sign of it. However using ninite or whatever certainly it installed, but no matter what I tried it crashed on launch, and left itself in a bit of a mess. the log in does not work, ie the fields are not  shown, but they do say log in using your browser, and  you do this and it looks like its looked but  no way to get the actual drive to work. it crashed  on a computer restart. its just as crappy on 7 as it was when back up and sync first appeared. if this is the standard of testing that goes on at Google towers, tough, I wasted far too much time on it. It should just work.Add to that it won't even install on xp without a cryptic error about a missing kernel call or somesuch.
So I'm on the look out for a back up cloud solution, I have dropbox but I'd like some kind of  or file solution that is not restricted to 64 bit computers or  has windows 7 as the lowest windows.
Still lots of computers out there running xp.
I do think that when people design software they should actually not be so unhelpful as to  just fall over and  leave computers in a mess. I spent an age removing all the clutter of Googles antics yesterday afternoon.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Wocher" <gwocher@gwocher.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Call me stupid but..


Hello,
On the drive page, after hitting the download, you have to search the page for the accept link. I ran into this issue as well.

Greg Wocher

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I did that and nothing actually happened which is why I mentioned it here. Not sure that the other site will be up to date. Does it still just download the stub?
Brian

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Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Call me stupid but..


Hello,

Alternatively, you can go to drive.google.com, press space on Settings, and enter on Download Backup and Sync.

All the best,

Vlad.







Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Marcia Yale
 

I use Chicken Nugget on my Windows machine and it works great with NVDA. Usually the follow/unfollow commands are on the user details or profile screen, so find that screen in TW Blue and you should be able to find the buttons for following.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:51 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno


Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Richard Bartholomew
 

It's Alt+Win+Shift+S and it's called 'Open the User Action Menu' - once that dialogue's open, you can tab around to find the options to follow, unfollow, block etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 13:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

I have reviewed all of the keyboard shortcuts in TW Blue and find none for "unfollow" or "followw".

Rich De Steno

On 5/20/2018 8:20 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
If you press Alt+Win+K in TW Blue, you will bring up the keyboard manager and be able to find what you're looking for in there - I can't remember the keystroke off the top of my head, I'm afraid - assuming you haven't disabled this shortcut combination, of course.

Cheers
Richard Bartholomew


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De
Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 12:51
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno









Re: new technology challenge

mcLeod stinnett
 

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from mack Jackie, thank you so much. that worked just fine in firefox 52, e s r. and nvda 2017.3