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Re: new technology challenge

Michael Capelle <michael.capelle@...>
 

totally agree, on my list, hijacking is not allowed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:26 AM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] new technology challenge

You just hijacked this thread, please start another one or the moderator will have tos split t this one, a mess in my humble opinion hich is why I don't do it.

Take care

On May 20, 2018, at 8:49 AM, Marisane Moruthanyana <marisanem@gmail.com> wrote:

Evening nvda list subscribers

I am Marisane from SA.

I've just bought a win10 machine.

I've had it for a month now.

It's been giving me problems I've not experienced in my life of using
windows operating system machines.

This win10 machine consumes more data than I can understand.

I am contracted to one of SA's network operators (Vodacom).

I receive 4 gb (2 gb per day and 2 gb per night).

The minute I connect my mobile wifi modem, much data is consumed.

What is win10 doing different from what was done by win7?

What extra apps are installed/updated?
Can I delay the update or will this disadvantage my machine? In other
words, will my delaying the update lead my machine to being attacked
by viruses?

How many times should this data-consuming update happen in a month?

What setting do I have to turn off to save data?

Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.
Marisane

On 5/20/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Pleasure, Mack. Glad it helped.

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the how its made website and NVDA latest stable

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi

When using latest chrome, latest firefox, latest NVDA stable version, the website:

www.sciencechannel.com/howitsmade

 

when I try filling out the form, NVDA does not let me get to the date calendar picker to choose a month. It does also not will not let me choose a video provider. I can’t even seem to get to this with object navigation either. Can anyone figure out the form on that site with NVDA? In order to fill it out, I had to switch to jaws18 and fill it out, then when done switch back to NVDA.

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

ely.r@...
 

Afternoon Steve,

Just jumped to the newest version of Windows a few days ago. Seeing your email, I tried using file explorer and had no real problems. My nephew built my computer and it too has 8 GB.

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

No, nothing to do with that.  I have two custom built machines here, with 8GB and a laptop, also with 8GB which is a Samsung.  NVDA is unusable with File Explorer on all three machines.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 20 May 2018 17:44
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

Yeah I wonder as well.  kind of laptop, what processor , how many gigs of ram etc.

 

On May 20, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

So I wonder what is the determining factor then?

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: 20 May 2018 17:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

Hello,

I am running the latest version of NVDA on my HP laptop and I do not have any issues using NVDA with file explorer. I am also using the 1803 Windows update. 

 

Greg Wocher



On May 20, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

I’m assuming you haven’t tried it in the File Explorer app then?  That’s the bug I was reporting.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:28
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

I can't remember if I replied or not but lists are fine in the explorer.exe app. I'm so far knock on wood not having any issues as far as I can see, except for obs but that's probably a broken app.




On May 16, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I recently reported that Outlook message lists were not reading for me.

 

It is in fact worse than that, lists in general don’t seem to be reading.  For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me now.

 

JAWS is reading lists quite happily.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Andy
 

In TW Blue, CONTROL-WIN-S opens the action center and you just tab over to the check box that says Follow-Unfollow. It's checked by default. Just uncheck it, and press space on the OK button.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@verizon.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account


I have reviewed all of the keyboard shortcuts in TW Blue and find none for "unfollow" or "followw".

Rich De Steno

On 5/20/2018 8:20 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
If you press Alt+Win+K in TW Blue, you will bring up the keyboard manager and be able to find what you're looking for in there - I can't remember the keystroke off the top of my head, I'm afraid - assuming you haven't disabled this shortcut combination, of course.

Cheers
Richard Bartholomew


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 12:51
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno









Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Andy
 

In TW Blue, simply hit CONTROL-WIN-S.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@verizon.net>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 4:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account


What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno



Stopping windows 10 from consuming so much data, was RE: [nvda] new technology challenge

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Hello Marisane.
Read this page. It might help you. https://www.techyuga.com/stop-windows-10-from-using-so-much-data/

I experienced something similar when I first got this machine and was having trouble with my ISP. I set Windows to use my mobile phone's data connection, and it promptly maxed me out for the month. I set the connection to metered .. a little too late, but at least I know to do it if I ever need to tether to the phone again. Now, the page above is somewhat out of date; I believe mS has made some changes in the last year, due in parts to complaints like yours. If you get stuck, do a google search for something like "setting metered connection in Windows 10" and you should eventually be set straight.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marisane Moruthanyana
Sent: May 20, 2018 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new technology challenge

Evening nvda list subscribers

I am Marisane from SA.

I've just bought a win10 machine.

I've had it for a month now.

It's been giving me problems I've not experienced in my life of using windows operating system machines.

This win10 machine consumes more data than I can understand.

I am contracted to one of SA's network operators (Vodacom).

I receive 4 gb (2 gb per day and 2 gb per night).

The minute I connect my mobile wifi modem, much data is consumed.

What is win10 doing different from what was done by win7?

What extra apps are installed/updated?
Can I delay the update or will this disadvantage my machine? In other words, will my delaying the update lead my machine to being attacked by viruses?

How many times should this data-consuming update happen in a month?

What setting do I have to turn off to save data?

Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.
Marisane

On 5/20/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Pleasure, Mack. Glad it helped.

On 5/20/18, mcLeod stinnett <macks75205@gmail.com> wrote:


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from mack Jackie, thank you so much. that worked just fine in
firefox 52, e s r. and nvda 2017.3




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Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

Annette Moore
 

I just close file explorer and reopen it when it starts acting funky. either that, or I shut down NVDA and restart it. Alternatively, I can sit here and stare at the computer for a few minutes, until it decides to behave itself, which it does eventually do. It has to be an NVDA thing, though, because it doesn't do this with System Access at all. I have trouble alt tabbing between windows when it wants to act up, and then I have trouble going through list items. It's like the cursor doesn't want to move through them but it actually does; it's just NVDA isn't reading me the items. I also find that if I have more than, say, two or three windows open and I close one of them, it starts working fine again. It's random, though, so I never know when it's going to misbehave. It's not aggravating enough to make me switch screen readers, though. I just figure it'll be fixed in a future update and go with it.

Annette


On 5/20/2018 11:36 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

So I wonder what is the determining factor then?

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: 20 May 2018 17:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

Hello,

I am running the latest version of NVDA on my HP laptop and I do not have any issues using NVDA with file explorer. I am also using the 1803 Windows update. 

 

Greg Wocher



On May 20, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

I’m assuming you haven’t tried it in the File Explorer app then?  That’s the bug I was reporting.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:28
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

I can't remember if I replied or not but lists are fine in the explorer.exe app. I'm so far knock on wood not having any issues as far as I can see, except for obs but that's probably a broken app.




On May 16, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I recently reported that Outlook message lists were not reading for me.

 

It is in fact worse than that, lists in general don’t seem to be reading.  For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me now.

 

JAWS is reading lists quite happily.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Annette Moore
 

Alt+shift+Windows+s will take you to the users dialogue, and you then choose what you want to do from there. It's a combo box. Once you choose what you wish to do, you tab to ok.

On 5/20/2018 7:26 AM, Rich De Steno wrote:
I have reviewed all of the keyboard shortcuts in TW Blue and find none for "unfollow" or "followw".

Rich De Steno

On 5/20/2018 8:20 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
If you press Alt+Win+K in TW Blue, you will bring up the keyboard manager and be able to find what you're looking for in there - I can't remember the keystroke off the top of my head, I'm afraid - assuming you haven't disabled this shortcut combination, of course.

Cheers
Richard Bartholomew


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 12:51
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source.  Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno










Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

Sarah k Alawami
 

Is this the explorer.exe that ships with windows? That's the one I use, and it still works.

On May 20, 2018, at 4:00 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

I’m assuming you haven’t tried it in the File Explorer app then?  That’s the bug I was reporting.
 
All the best

Steve
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:28
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
 
I can't remember if I replied or not but lists are fine in the explorer.exe app. I'm so far knock on wood not having any issues as far as I can see, except for obs but that's probably a broken app.


On May 16, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
 
Hi,
 
I recently reported that Outlook message lists were not reading for me.
 
It is in fact worse than that, lists in general don’t seem to be reading.  For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me now.
 
JAWS is reading lists quite happily.
 
Any thoughts?
 
Thanks.
 
All the best
 
Steve
 
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Re: Read Feeds add-on

John Isige
 

Well, I don't use feeds for anything I don't think, but if I did, I
might use it. It would be a quick way to get to feeds. For instance,
suppose I'm reading a couple of news feeds. It would probably be faster
to use the addon and browse headlines and hit just the stuff I care
about, than to open a browser and do it that way. This way I'm only
opening a browser for full articles that I'm interested in reading. It's
just another way for people to get stuff done. I mean, what's special
about the Twitter clients for the blind? We can all just go to Twitter's
website now. But the clients make it easier.

On 5/20/2018 12:23, Lino Morales wrote:

I posed this question on the add-ons list and I’ll ask it here.
Question is what’s so special about the Read Feeds add-oo? Both
Firefox and IE 11 have RSS capabalities. So what say you? wh

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10


Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

Steve Nutt
 

No, nothing to do with that.  I have two custom built machines here, with 8GB and a laptop, also with 8GB which is a Samsung.  NVDA is unusable with File Explorer on all three machines.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 20 May 2018 17:44
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

Yeah I wonder as well.  kind of laptop, what processor , how many gigs of ram etc.



On May 20, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

So I wonder what is the determining factor then?

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: 20 May 2018 17:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

Hello,

I am running the latest version of NVDA on my HP laptop and I do not have any issues using NVDA with file explorer. I am also using the 1803 Windows update. 

 

Greg Wocher




On May 20, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

I’m assuming you haven’t tried it in the File Explorer app then?  That’s the bug I was reporting.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:28
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

I can't remember if I replied or not but lists are fine in the explorer.exe app. I'm so far knock on wood not having any issues as far as I can see, except for obs but that's probably a broken app.





On May 16, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I recently reported that Outlook message lists were not reading for me.

 

It is in fact worse than that, lists in general don’t seem to be reading.  For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me now.

 

JAWS is reading lists quite happily.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Read Feeds add-on

Lino Morales
 

I posed this question on the add-ons list and I’ll ask it here. Question is what’s so special about the Read Feeds add-oo? Both Firefox and IE 11 have RSS capabalities. So what say you? wh

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Richard Bartholomew
 

No, the key combination I listed was the one I meant but what I should also have said that this was with the default Windows 10 layout!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 15:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

I think the key combo you mean is control-windows-s. I just tried that and it did open the User Actions menu.


On 5/20/2018 9:43 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
It's Alt+Win+Shift+S and it's called 'Open the User Action Menu' - once that dialogue's open, you can tab around to find the options to follow, unfollow, block etc.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 13:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

I have reviewed all of the keyboard shortcuts in TW Blue and find none for "unfollow" or "followw".

Rich De Steno

On 5/20/2018 8:20 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
If you press Alt+Win+K in TW Blue, you will bring up the keyboard manager and be able to find what you're looking for in there - I can't remember the keystroke off the top of my head, I'm afraid - assuming you haven't disabled this shortcut combination, of course.

Cheers
Richard Bartholomew


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich De
Steno
Sent: 20 May 2018 12:51
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno














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Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yeah I wonder as well.  kind of laptop, what processor , how many gigs of ram etc.

On May 20, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

So I wonder what is the determining factor then?
 
All the best

Steve
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: 20 May 2018 17:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
 
Hello,
I am running the latest version of NVDA on my HP laptop and I do not have any issues using NVDA with file explorer. I am also using the 1803 Windows update. 
 
Greg Wocher


On May 20, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
 
I’m assuming you haven’t tried it in the File Explorer app then?  That’s the bug I was reporting.
 
All the best

Steve
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:28
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
 
I can't remember if I replied or not but lists are fine in the explorer.exe app. I'm so far knock on wood not having any issues as far as I can see, except for obs but that's probably a broken app.



On May 16, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
 
Hi,
 
I recently reported that Outlook message lists were not reading for me.
 
It is in fact worse than that, lists in general don’t seem to be reading.  For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me now.
 
JAWS is reading lists quite happily.
 
Any thoughts?
 
Thanks.
 
All the best
 
Steve
 
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Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

Steve Nutt
 

So I wonder what is the determining factor then?

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: 20 May 2018 17:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

Hello,

I am running the latest version of NVDA on my HP laptop and I do not have any issues using NVDA with file explorer. I am also using the 1803 Windows update. 

 

Greg Wocher



On May 20, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

I’m assuming you haven’t tried it in the File Explorer app then?  That’s the bug I was reporting.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:28
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

I can't remember if I replied or not but lists are fine in the explorer.exe app. I'm so far knock on wood not having any issues as far as I can see, except for obs but that's probably a broken app.




On May 16, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I recently reported that Outlook message lists were not reading for me.

 

It is in fact worse than that, lists in general don’t seem to be reading.  For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me now.

 

JAWS is reading lists quite happily.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Email: steve@...

 

 

 


Re: Sound Forge 12.5

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

Reaper is better in my view anyway, and has lots more training resources for blind users.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: 19 May 2018 12:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sound Forge 12.5

I downloaded the demo of sound forge 12.5 and had no luck with it with NVDA. So decided to stick with reaper.

On 5/19/18, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,

No I was referring to What Chris Gilland said about Sound Forge being
completely accessible. No way is it.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Christopher Gray
Sent: 17 May 2018 17:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sound Forge 12.5

I'm not understanding what the mix paste dialog has to do with my
original question. Maybe more detail could be helpful.

However, I think this whole discussion is missing the fundamental
point that in Soundforge 12.5, you really can't even get to square one
in terms of use.

Opening a file and selecting a piece of it to delete or move is
fundamental to most tasks. It doesn't work in NVDA. Keeping your
place in a file is absolutely necessary in order to perform a
multitude of tasks in sound editing.
Stability of your location in NVDA doesn't exist right now.

Soundforge 10 does work in Jaws, Cobra and Window-Eyes. Soundforge
12.5 does work in Jaws with scripts. If I'm going to be a serious
NVDA user, I need it to work in NVDA. I have no doubt this is equally
true for the many other blind Soundforge users out there, and there are a lot of them.

Chris

On Thu, 17 May 2018, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Chris,

Well try the mix paste dialogue then, it is inaccessible with any
screen reader, unless of course, you just accept the defaults.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: 16 May 2018 18:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sound Forge 12.5

Uh, I'm not meaning hear to be rude, but as a professional sound
engineer, I can say with absolute certainty, that unless there is
functionality I'm not seeing, which is unlikely, I use Soundforge
almost daily with no scripts, unless they come preinstalled with
JAWS, and I'm able to do quite a lot. I can edit, mix, master, etc.
I've been able to ever since version 4.5 way back in the days, which
is when I
first started using it.

Anyway, I mean this with all due respect, but, alas, I digress.

Chris.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Christopher Gray
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 1:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sound Forge 12.5

Yes, I am told that Jaws works well with the Version 12 series.
Brian Hartgen, I believe, has a comprehensive set of Jaws scripts and
tutorials.
Cobra had its own scripts for Soundforge 9 and 10, but 12 is new and
Baum had developed no

replacement before its current dormancy.

Soundforge has always required scripting and I sincerely doubt one
can get anywhere by contacting them about accessibility issues.

Chris


On Wed, 16 May
2018, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Does anyone know if jaws is OK with the new version. I was not aware
that nvda had been tested with any version since it went mega
commercial.
I'm using Goldwave here, but obviously the program you are using has
a chequered career and has been written by lots of different folk
over the years, I'd not be surprised if accessibility is quite low
on their
radar.
We
would normally say, if you are a paying customer and it used to work
before,
that you should be able to have a word with them about changes
like
this.
I think the general advice is to contact them, and then if they seem
not
to
want to fix it, take either further action or see if anyone can
write a patch for nvda, but if the program costs money it can be
difficult to find
somebody to do it.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Gray"
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To: "NVDA Mailing List" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 5:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] Sound Forge 12.5


Hello:

As some will know, Magix now owns and updates Sound Forge. The
most recent release is 12.5.

This version is not working very well at all with NVDA. Even the
simplest of activities, highlighting a segment of audio and getting
it
to
play back is not working for me. Also, my position in a sound
file
tends
to jump around in ways I don't understand. Suddenly, I might find
myself
2-3 minutes into a file for no reason at all.

Anybody know of a fix for this?

Chris

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Re: new technology challenge

Sarah k Alawami
 

You just hijacked this thread, please start another one or the moderator will have tos split t this one, a mess in my humble opinion hich is why I don't do it.

Take care

On May 20, 2018, at 8:49 AM, Marisane Moruthanyana <marisanem@gmail.com> wrote:

Evening nvda list subscribers

I am Marisane from SA.

I've just bought a win10 machine.

I've had it for a month now.

It's been giving me problems I've not experienced in my life of using
windows operating system machines.

This win10 machine consumes more data than I can understand.

I am contracted to one of SA's network operators (Vodacom).

I receive 4 gb (2 gb per day and 2 gb per night).

The minute I connect my mobile wifi modem, much data is consumed.

What is win10 doing different from what was done by win7?

What extra apps are installed/updated?
Can I delay the update or will this disadvantage my machine? In other
words, will my delaying the update lead my machine to being attacked
by viruses?

How many times should this data-consuming update happen in a month?

What setting do I have to turn off to save data?

Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.
Marisane

On 5/20/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Pleasure, Mack. Glad it helped.

On 5/20/18, mcLeod stinnett <macks75205@gmail.com> wrote:


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Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yeah I to am not having any issues. I checked yesterday and all is well in regard to the file explorer.

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On May 20, 2018, at 9:13 AM, Greg Wocher <gwocher@...> wrote:

Hello,
I am running the latest version of NVDA on my HP laptop and I do not have any issues using NVDA with file explorer. I am also using the 1803 Windows update. 

Greg Wocher

On May 20, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

I’m assuming you haven’t tried it in the File Explorer app then?  That’s the bug I was reporting.
 
All the best

Steve
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:28
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
 
I can't remember if I replied or not but lists are fine in the explorer.exe app. I'm so far knock on wood not having any issues as far as I can see, except for obs but that's probably a broken app.


On May 16, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
 
Hi,
 
I recently reported that Outlook message lists were not reading for me.
 
It is in fact worse than that, lists in general don’t seem to be reading.  For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me now.
 
JAWS is reading lists quite happily.
 
Any thoughts?
 
Thanks.
 
All the best
 
Steve
 
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Re: Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
I am running the latest version of NVDA on my HP laptop and I do not have any issues using NVDA with file explorer. I am also using the 1803 Windows update. 

Greg Wocher

On May 20, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

I’m assuming you haven’t tried it in the File Explorer app then?  That’s the bug I was reporting.
 
All the best

Steve
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:28
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803
 
I can't remember if I replied or not but lists are fine in the explorer.exe app. I'm so far knock on wood not having any issues as far as I can see, except for obs but that's probably a broken app.


On May 16, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
 
Hi,
 
I recently reported that Outlook message lists were not reading for me.
 
It is in fact worse than that, lists in general don’t seem to be reading.  For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me now.
 
JAWS is reading lists quite happily.
 
Any thoughts?
 
Thanks.
 
All the best
 
Steve
 
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Re: Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

Lino Morales
 

That is correct from what I understand it. You’ll still be able to use the native Twitter apps for IOS and android. But yeah the UWP app for WIN 10 or the website itself yes.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Mehler
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

 

Hello,

 

Does this effect android apps as well? So, August it sounds like your

saying it's the win10 app or nothing on that platform or the web site?

 

Thanks.

Dave.

 

 

On 5/20/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:

> Hi. Just wanted to let you all know if you didn’t know already as of the

> middle of August we will no longer have access to the 3rd party apps that

> work with Twitter such as TW Blue etc. So if you are on WIN 10 use the newly

> improved Twitter UWP app which is accessible. They are changing their API

> for 3rd party access so if you want to complain to Twitter do so in the

> appropriate places.

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Marcia Yale

> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:56 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

> I use Chicken Nugget on my Windows machine and it works great with NVDA.

> Usually the follow/unfollow commands are on the user details or profile

> screen, so find that screen in TW Blue and you should be able to find the

> buttons for following.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De

> Steno

> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:51 AM

> To: nvda@groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

> What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The

> official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your

> mouse", offering no keyboard option.  I am using TW Blue and find no

> keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source.  Even the

> applications key fails to offer such an option.

> --

> Rich De Steno