Yep, this pretty much mirrors my experience, although I can never get NVDA
to read the list now.



NVDA is pretty horrible with File Explorer under Windows 10, and it’s got
worse with this build.



All the best



Steve



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: 20 May 2018 20:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803



I just close file explorer and reopen it when it starts acting funky. either
that, or I shut down NVDA and restart it. Alternatively, I can sit here and
stare at the computer for a few minutes, until it decides to behave itself,
which it does eventually do. It has to be an NVDA thing, though, because it
doesn't do this with System Access at all. I have trouble alt tabbing
between windows when it wants to act up, and then I have trouble going
through list items. It's like the cursor doesn't want to move through them
but it actually does; it's just NVDA isn't reading me the items. I also find
that if I have more than, say, two or three windows open and I close one of
them, it starts working fine again. It's random, though, so I never know
when it's going to misbehave. It's not aggravating enough to make me switch
screen readers, though. I just figure it'll be fixed in a future update and
go with it.

Annette



On 5/20/2018 11:36 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

So I wonder what is the determining factor then?



All the best


Steve



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: 20 May 2018 17:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803



Hello,

I am running the latest version of NVDA on my HP laptop and I do not have
any issues using NVDA with file explorer. I am also using the 1803 Windows
update.



Greg Wocher



On May 20, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...
<mailto:steve@...> > wrote:



I’m assuming you haven’t tried it in the File Explorer app then? That’s the
bug I was reporting.



All the best


Steve



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:28
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803



I can't remember if I replied or not but lists are fine in the explorer.exe
app. I'm so far knock on wood not having any issues as far as I can see,
except for obs but that's probably a broken app.





On May 16, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...
<mailto:steve@...> > wrote:



Hi,



I recently reported that Outlook message lists were not reading for me.



It is in fact worse than that, lists in general don’t seem to be reading.
For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me now.



JAWS is reading lists quite happily.



Any thoughts?



Thanks.



All the best



Steve



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NVDA updated to eSpeak 1.49.2 in NVDA 2017.4.

eSpeak 1.49.3 is in development but not yet released. So they may have
addressed some of the issues but they haven't released them yet :)

Quentin.

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Hi I have been told that most of the pronunciations that were wrong like
for and newsletter etc, have been fixed some time ago in the project, but
from what I can tell in the latest nvda master its still not been
transferred over.
What is the issue, is Espeak NG now in some other troubles and if so,
cannot somebody import the fixes and leave the main guts the same for us?
I have gone back to the old Espeak as in speech player in Espeak again
today as its hard to understand some words.
Brian

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NVDA updated to eSpeak 1.49.2 in NVDA 2017.4.

eSpeak 1.49.3 is in development but not yet released. So they may have
addressed some of the issues but they haven't released them yet :)

Quentin.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:43 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <
bglists@...> wrote:

Hi I have been told that most of the pronunciations that were wrong like
for and newsletter etc, have been fixed some time ago in the project, but
from what I can tell in the latest nvda master its still not been
transferred over.
What is the issue, is Espeak NG now in some other troubles and if so,
cannot somebody import the fixes and leave the main guts the same for us?
I have gone back to the old Espeak as in speech player in Espeak again
today as its hard to understand some words.
Brian

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NVDA updated to eSpeak 1.49.2 in NVDA 2017.4.

eSpeak 1.49.3 is in development but not yet released. So they may have
addressed some of the issues but they haven't released them yet :)

Quentin.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:43 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <
bglists@...> wrote:

Hi I have been told that most of the pronunciations that were wrong like
for and newsletter etc, have been fixed some time ago in the project, but
from what I can tell in the latest nvda master its still not been
transferred over.
What is the issue, is Espeak NG now in some other troubles and if so,
cannot somebody import the fixes and leave the main guts the same for us?
I have gone back to the old Espeak as in speech player in Espeak again
today as its hard to understand some words.
Brian

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I just close file explorer and reopen it when it starts acting funky. either that, or I shut down NVDA and restart it. Alternatively, I can sit here and stare at the computer for a few minutes, until it decides to behave itself, which it does eventually do. It has to be an NVDA thing, though, because it doesn't do this with System Access at all. I have trouble alt tabbing between windows when it wants to act up, and then I have trouble going through list items. It's like the cursor doesn't want to move through them but it actually does; it's just NVDA isn't reading me the items. I also find that if I have more than, say, two or three windows open and I close one of them, it starts working fine again. It's random, though, so I never know when it's going to misbehave. It's not aggravating enough to make me switch screen readers, though. I just figure it'll be fixed in a future update and go with it.

Annette

So I wonder what is the determining factor then?

 

All the best

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: 20 May 2018 17:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

Hello,

I am running the latest version of NVDA on my HP laptop and I do not have any issues using NVDA with file explorer. I am also using the 1803 Windows update. 

 

Greg Wocher

 

On May 20, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

I’m assuming you haven’t tried it in the File Explorer app then?  That’s the bug I was reporting.

 

All the best

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 18 May 2018 21:28
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with NVDA and latest Windows 10 1803

 

I can't remember if I replied or not but lists are fine in the explorer.exe app. I'm so far knock on wood not having any issues as far as I can see, except for obs but that's probably a broken app.

On May 16, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I recently reported that Outlook message lists were not reading for me.

 

It is in fact worse than that, lists in general don’t seem to be reading.  For example, File Explorer in Windows 10 is completely silent for me now.

 

JAWS is reading lists quite happily.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Is this the explorer.exe that ships with windows? That's the one I use, and it still works.

Pleasure, Mack. Glad it helped.

On 5/20/18, mcLeod stinnett <macks75205@...> wrote:

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e
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Whatever you do with third party twitter apps is going to change very soon as Twitter are removing access to the API and charging huge megabucks for the new one. Methinks they want to make sure all their adverts are seen. Cannot think why! grin.
I don't do it myself, but I know several people who think twitter will be useless in August.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno

Hi. Just wanted to let you all know if you didn’t know already as of the
middle of August we will no longer have access to the 3rd party apps that
work with Twitter such as TW Blue etc. So if you are on WIN 10 use the
newly
improved Twitter UWP app which is accessible. They are changing their API
for 3rd party access so if you want to complain to Twitter do so in the
appropriate places.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Marcia Yale
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

I use Chicken Nugget on my Windows machine and it works great with NVDA.
Usually the follow/unfollow commands are on the user details or profile
screen, so find that screen in TW Blue and you should be able to find the
buttons for following.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich
De
Steno
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:51 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The
official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with
your
mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no
keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the
applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno

Pleasure, Mack. Glad it helped.

On 5/20/18, mcLeod stinnett <macks75205@...> wrote:

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from mack Jackie, thank you so much. that worked just fine in
firefox 52, e s r. and nvda 2017.3

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I posed this question on the add-ons list and I’ll ask it here.
Question is what’s so special about the Read Feeds add-oo? Both
Firefox and IE 11 have RSS capabalities. So what say you? wh

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

Hi. Just wanted to let you all know if you didn’t know already as of the
middle of August we will no longer have access to the 3rd party apps that
work with Twitter such as TW Blue etc. So if you are on WIN 10 use the newly
improved Twitter UWP app which is accessible. They are changing their API
for 3rd party access so if you want to complain to Twitter do so in the
appropriate places.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Marcia Yale
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 9:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

I use Chicken Nugget on my Windows machine and it works great with NVDA.
Usually the follow/unfollow commands are on the user details or profile
screen, so find that screen in TW Blue and you should be able to find the
buttons for following.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich De
Steno
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:51 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with a Twitter Account

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The
official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your
mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no
keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the
applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno

What is the easiest way to "follow" and "unfollow" sources with NVDA. The official Twitter web site merely advises to "hover over the person with your mouse", offering no keyboard option. I am using TW Blue and find no keyboard method of "following" or "unfollowing" a source. Even the applications key fails to offer such an option.

--
Rich De Steno

It's funny how we just put up with their quirks sometimes - In order to use
my microphone, I have to go into it and disable then reenable it each time
I turn the computer on. It's an annoyance, but I just do it - I must
admit, I have looked into it before and it seems to be an issue with this
webcam that Logitech aren't interested in fixing so it's either deal with
it, or buy a different model webcam. Yours sounds a bit more serious
though.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:33 PM, marcio via Groups.Io <
marcinhorj21@...> wrote:

This is an old problem, I guess it happen to me since I started to use
this computer.
Anyway, I really don't googled about it yet. I'm going to do it right now.


Em 20/05/2018 21:15, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

I think you need to try to get to the bottom of what is causing that
freeze rather than trying to find a quicker way to quit NVDA :)

Possibly something you have installed or updated recently. Maybe see if
you can find a Windows log or something indicating the problem or google
and see if you can find anyone else with the same problem.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 2:07 AM, marcio via Groups.Io <
marcinhorj21@...> wrote:

I can't do it because as I've already said my computer have a weird bug
that totally freezes any program and command I try to use. So I created a
shortcut that allows me to be faster than the bug and I was able to make
things right 'til I noticed it.

Em 19/05/2018 21:49, Abbie Taylor escreveu:

Have you tried NVDA plus Q. Alternatively, you can go to the NVDA menu and click on "Exit" at the bottom. Hope that helps.

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On May 19, 2018 9:13 AM, "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21@...> <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:

Hello,
Do you guys have these problems?
Since yesterday I just can't shutdown my NVDA by the task manager.
When I tried "taskkill /f /im nvda.exe" it gives me a error message.
And that's the only way I found to fix the bug that freezes my computer
'til I restart it. If I can be faster than the bug, I'm able to give
the command to shut down the task and then it's alright.

Chheers,
Marcio

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It's funny how we just put up with their quirks sometimes - In order to use my microphone, I have to go into it and disable then reenable it each time I turn the computer on.  It's an annoyance, but I just do it - I must admit, I have looked into it before and it seems to be an issue with this webcam that Logitech aren't interested in fixing so it's either deal with it, or buy a different model webcam.  Yours sounds a bit more serious though.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:33 PM, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:

This is an old problem, I guess it happen to me since I started to use this computer.
Anyway, I really don't googled about it yet. I'm going to do it right now.

 

Em 20/05/2018 21:15, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

I think you need to try to get to the bottom of what is causing that freeze rather than trying to find a quicker way to quit NVDA :)

Possibly something you have installed or updated recently.  Maybe see if you can find a Windows log or something indicating the problem or google and see if you can find anyone else with the same problem.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 2:07 AM, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:

I can't do it because as I've already said my computer have a weird bug that totally freezes any program and command I try to use. So I created a shortcut that allows me to be faster than the bug and I was able to make things right 'til I noticed it.

Em 19/05/2018 21:49, Abbie Taylor escreveu:

Have you tried NVDA plus Q. Alternatively, you can go to the NVDA menu and click on "Exit" at the bottom. Hope that helps.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
abbietaylor945@...
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On May 19, 2018 9:13 AM, "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:

Hello, 
Do you guys have these problems? 
Since yesterday I  just can't shutdown my NVDA by the task manager. 
When I tried "taskkill /f /im nvda.exe" it gives me a error message. 
And that's the only way I found to fix the bug that freezes my computer 
'til I restart it. If I can  be faster than the bug, I'm able to give 
the command to shut down the task and then it's alright. 

Chheers, 
Marcio 

 

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