Hi,

 

I need evidence please (a log will do). Also, be sure that you’ve got an NVDA snapshot, otherwise the add-on dev version won’t work properly when it comes to displaying its settings.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Governor staten
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] golden cursor dev version

 

Hello. I just downloaded and installed the Golden Cursor latest dev

version available on the add-ons site. There is some issue that when you

click "okay", "cancel", or "apply", it throws an error. I restarted NVDA

and everything worked well. Not sure if switching to another panel would

allow me to close the settings properly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think it's Firefox. Nowadays, whenever I try to have it remember a particular password, the dialog asking me if I want Firefox to do this keeps coming up, and I keep pressing the button to save the password, and it comes up again. This happens for a while, and then when I just escape out of that dialog, I lose speech altogether and have to re-start Firefox before it will work properly. By the way, it never does remember the password.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
abbietaylor945@...
Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 22, 2018 2:24 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
> can any one tell me if firefox freezes when you go to add a bookmark?
> when ever I  try to do that I loose speech for about 5 seconds
> am trying to find out if it is me or if it is firefox
> thanks
> Hank
> --
> check out my song on youtube
> https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
>
>
>
> 
>

From: Governor staten
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] golden cursor dev version

 

Hello. I just downloaded and installed the Golden Cursor latest dev

version available on the add-ons site. There is some issue that when you

click "okay", "cancel", or "apply", it throws an error. I restarted NVDA

and everything worked well. Not sure if switching to another panel would

allow me to close the settings properly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 5/22/2018 3:24 PM, Jackie wrote:

Abbie, messenger is now a part of facebook. So do you have a facebook account?

On 5/22/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm you should be able to change the password.

To be honest, when ms/ google says you have been hacked, just like
windows flagging things,  I don't know if it has or not.

I had the same issue with google sync, an update and reload had to be done.

The program crashed in the middle of signup.

Google then said I was hacked and needed to change my password.

It will also do that if you go to another location then signin from your
home location, sometimes it puts up a security message sometimes not.

Either you don't get it or respond fast enough and boom.

A friend had this with an ms account.

Her system lost power in the middle of a feature windows update.

Nothing worked, eventually she had to reformat her pc, and windows
mobile phone, change her passwords then create another account for it to
work.

Some of that was her isp doing strange things but everything got out of
sync, and then things got confused.

I had the same situation with a business system I was working on, the
encripted drive crashed.

Some backups were made but not everything.

The system was reinstalled on a new box, but again, security was just
crazy.

Eventually with some professional recovery technitions the drives were
recovered, the accounts were updated, but it envolved a lot of mucking
about.

I am more inclined to think if something says your account is hacked
that your account is not in fact compromised its just windows or your
previder telling you you are doing something outside their strict
guidelines.




On 5/23/2018 8:42 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Because my messenger account has been hacked, I'm trying to either
delete the account or change the password, but I can't seem to do this
on the messenger site so far with NVDA. https://www.messenger.comFor
some reason, it's not reading the settings dialog box. I've tried some
of the mouse commands but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?

On 5/22/2018 5:41 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi Brian and others,
Quoting Brian from his post (below)
"Looking at it selfishly from their revenue point of view, I suppose they have to make money somehow"

Indeed they do. Apart from the fact that it is a for-profit company, they have obligations such as employee salaries, facility and product maintenance, and stuff like that to pay for with the money that ads brings in. (smile)
-LM

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 5/21/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] Twitter clients. Re: Read Feeds add-on
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Monday, May 21, 2018, 11:13 PM
This is th4e second time this has occurred,
of course, they did say they
would delay it for consultation but
really the blind are the  smallest part
of it. Its everyone else they want to
come back to their web site or their
own app. Its very similar to what the
BBC did with the tv I player some
times ago, removing all the metadata
needed to construct the off browser
experience, so the companies making
third party access tools had to resort
to screen scraping which as you can
imagine besides being slower is also
going to mean a new version every time
the web site is changed in any way.
As far as I can tell from what the
various twitter campaigns say is that
Twitter never intended the api to be
use to avoid paid for adverts and
content, as this is how they keep the
platform free for the public.
They have mooted a paid for service
with no adverts, but also from reading
between the lines they can detect ad
blockers and won't let you use the site
with one turned on, if not now but
eventually.
Looking at it selfishly from their
revenue point of view, I suppose they
have to make money somehow and with the
possibility that in the states the
loss of net neutrality  possibly
meaning sites be paying carriers to not
delay their packets, they are just
minding their backs. as always the
undesired result  of poorer access
for disabled is just collateral damage.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Twitter clients.
Re: Read Feeds add-on

> Well someone on one of my forums
has allready got one of those change
> pititions to twitter to stop
breaking it for the blind.
>
> Since I know these things are only
feel good things and non binding I am
> unsure what the point is.
>
> I did sign it but then I sign
everything but bar all the extra spam I
> doubt things will change.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/22/2018 4:11 AM, Travis
Siegel wrote:
>> This link:
>> https://blog.twitter.com/developer/en_us/topics/tools/2018/discontinuing-support-for-twitter-kit-sdk.html
>> talks about why they are
discontinuing support for one of their SDK
>> tools. It will still continue
to work, it's just hat twitter themselves
>> won't be contributing to it
anymore.
>> On the link:
>> https://developer.twitter.com/en/pricing.html
>> you can get details on exactly
what they're charging for, and how much,
>> though it's not laid out in a
straightforward method, you need to select
>> the various features, and
their level to see what the fees are.
>> It actually looks like twitter
has been targeting fee based services for
>> quite some time now. As far
back as 2010, twitter was charging for access
>> to historical data for
researchers, commercial developers who wanted back
>> history, and the like, so this
isn't anything new. Last march, twitter
>> had run a series of surveys,
asking if users would be willing to pay for
>> different components of the
twitter landscape. I didn't find anything
>> breaking down what those
responses were, but it isn't surprising that the
>> questions were being asked.
After all, every company has a need to make
>> money, or they won't remain a
company for very long.
>> But, as far as the impending
charging for access goes:
>> https://www.xda-developers.com/twitter-new-api-third-party-clients/
>> seems to indicate that the
fees for a standard twitter client aren't
>> trivial, and seems to
contradict what I read earlier about clients simply
>> not being able to get realtime
updates. It appears more digging is
>> necessary.
>> Apparently, twitter is trying
to herd users into using official twitter
>> clients only, (or the web
site), but as of now, I can't say whether this
>> is true or not, since there
seems to be more knee jerk reactions to the
>> announcement than actual
facts. I suspect truthful information will
>> slowly filter it's way into
the general populous over the next few
>> months, then we'll know for
sure what the deal is, but for now, just keep
>> using the client of your
choice, and wait until it breaks ... (if it
>> breaks) ... before spreading
possibly untrue information about the
>> change.
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>
>
>
>

On Mon, 5/21/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] Twitter clients. Re: Read Feeds add-on
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Monday, May 21, 2018, 11:13 PM

This is th4e second time this has occurred,
of course, they did say they
would delay it for consultation but
really the blind are the  smallest part
of it. Its everyone else they want to
come back to their web site or their
own app. Its very similar to what the
BBC did with the tv I player some
times ago, removing all the metadata
needed to construct the off browser
experience, so the companies making
third party access tools had to resort
to screen scraping which as you can
imagine besides being slower is also
going to mean a new version every time
the web site is changed in any way.
As far as I can tell from what the
various twitter campaigns say is that
Twitter never intended the api to be
use to avoid paid for adverts and
content, as this is how they keep the
platform free for the public.
They have mooted a paid for service
with no adverts, but also from reading
between the lines they can detect ad
blockers and won't let you use the site
with one turned on, if not now but
eventually.
Looking at it selfishly from their
revenue point of view, I suppose they
have to make money somehow and with the
possibility that in the states the
loss of net neutrality  possibly
meaning sites be paying carriers to not
delay their packets, they are just
minding their backs. as always the
undesired result  of poorer access
for disabled is just collateral damage.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Twitter clients.
Re: Read Feeds add-on


> Well someone on one of my forums
has allready got one of those change
> pititions to twitter to stop
breaking it for the blind.
>
> Since I know these things are only
feel good things and non binding I am
> unsure what the point is.
>
> I did sign it but then I sign
everything but bar all the extra spam I
> doubt things will change.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/22/2018 4:11 AM, Travis
Siegel wrote:
>> This link:
>> https://blog.twitter.com/developer/en_us/topics/tools/2018/discontinuing-support-for-twitter-kit-sdk.html
>> talks about why they are
discontinuing support for one of their SDK
>> tools. It will still continue
to work, it's just hat twitter themselves
>> won't be contributing to it
anymore.
>> On the link:
>> https://developer.twitter.com/en/pricing.html
>> you can get details on exactly
what they're charging for, and how much,
>> though it's not laid out in a
straightforward method, you need to select
>> the various features, and
their level to see what the fees are.
>> It actually looks like twitter
has been targeting fee based services for
>> quite some time now. As far
back as 2010, twitter was charging for access
>> to historical data for
researchers, commercial developers who wanted back
>> history, and the like, so this
isn't anything new. Last march, twitter
>> had run a series of surveys,
asking if users would be willing to pay for
>> different components of the
twitter landscape. I didn't find anything
>> breaking down what those
responses were, but it isn't surprising that the
>> questions were being asked.
After all, every company has a need to make
>> money, or they won't remain a
company for very long.
>> But, as far as the impending
charging for access goes:
>> https://www.xda-developers.com/twitter-new-api-third-party-clients/
>> seems to indicate that the
fees for a standard twitter client aren't
>> trivial, and seems to
contradict what I read earlier about clients simply
>> not being able to get realtime
updates. It appears more digging is
>> necessary.
>> Apparently, twitter is trying
to herd users into using official twitter
>> clients only, (or the web
site), but as of now, I can't say whether this
>> is true or not, since there
seems to be more knee jerk reactions to the
>> announcement than actual
facts. I suspect truthful information will
>> slowly filter it's way into
the general populous over the next few
>> months, then we'll know for
sure what the deal is, but for now, just keep
>> using the client of your
choice, and wait until it breaks ... (if it
>> breaks) ... before spreading
possibly untrue information about the
>> change.
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>
>
>
>

On May 22, 2018 2:24 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello
can any one tell me if firefox freezes when you go to add a bookmark?
when ever I  try to do that I loose speech for about 5 seconds
am trying to find out if it is me or if it is firefox
thanks
Hank
--
check out my song on youtube
https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y

On May 22, 2018 5:33 PM, Ashley Coleman <amc05111@gmail.com> wrote:

You should be able to change your Facebook password, and that will change it for Messenger.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 19:32
To: Jackie <abletec@gmail.com>
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Messenger Site and NVDA

Yes I do, and I realize now they both go together. I may have to delete the Facebook account if I can't change my Messenger password.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com abbietaylor945@gmail.com Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 22, 2018 4:24 PM, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:

Abbie, messenger is now a part of facebook. So do you have a facebook account?

On 5/22/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm you should be able to change the password.

To be honest, when ms/ google says you have been hacked, just like
windows flagging things,  I don't know if it has or not.

I had the same issue with google sync, an update and reload had to be done.

The program crashed in the middle of signup.

Google then said I was hacked and needed to change my password.

It will also do that if you go to another location then signin from
your home location, sometimes it puts up a security message sometimes not.

Either you don't get it or respond fast enough and boom.

A friend had this with an ms account.

Her system lost power in the middle of a feature windows update.

Nothing worked, eventually she had to reformat her pc, and windows
mobile phone, change her passwords then create another account for
it to work.

Some of that was her isp doing strange things but everything got out
of sync, and then things got confused.

I had the same situation with a business system I was working on,
the encripted drive crashed.

Some backups were made but not everything.

The system was reinstalled on a new box, but again, security was
just crazy.

Eventually with some professional recovery technitions the drives
were recovered, the accounts were updated, but it envolved a lot of
mucking about.

I am more inclined to think if something says your account is hacked
that your account is not in fact compromised its just windows or
your previder telling you you are doing something outside their
strict guidelines.




On 5/23/2018 8:42 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Because my messenger account has been hacked, I'm trying to either
delete the account or change the password, but I can't seem to do
this on the messenger site so far with NVDA.
https://www.messenger.comFor some reason, it's not reading the
settings dialog box. I've tried some of the mouse commands but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?

--
Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe Jackie McBride Helping
Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time https://brighter-vision.com

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 19:32
To: Jackie <abletec@gmail.com>
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Messenger Site and NVDA

Yes I do, and I realize now they both go together. I may have to delete the Facebook account if I can't change my Messenger password.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com abbietaylor945@gmail.com Order my new memoir at http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com/memoir.htm

On May 22, 2018 4:24 PM, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:

Abbie, messenger is now a part of facebook. So do you have a facebook account?

On 5/22/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm you should be able to change the password.

To be honest, when ms/ google says you have been hacked, just like
windows flagging things, I don't know if it has or not.

I had the same issue with google sync, an update and reload had to be done.

The program crashed in the middle of signup.

Google then said I was hacked and needed to change my password.

It will also do that if you go to another location then signin from
your home location, sometimes it puts up a security message sometimes not.

Either you don't get it or respond fast enough and boom.

A friend had this with an ms account.

Her system lost power in the middle of a feature windows update.

Nothing worked, eventually she had to reformat her pc, and windows
mobile phone, change her passwords then create another account for
it to work.

Some of that was her isp doing strange things but everything got out
of sync, and then things got confused.

I had the same situation with a business system I was working on,
the encripted drive crashed.

Some backups were made but not everything.

The system was reinstalled on a new box, but again, security was
just crazy.

Eventually with some professional recovery technitions the drives
were recovered, the accounts were updated, but it envolved a lot of
mucking about.

I am more inclined to think if something says your account is hacked
that your account is not in fact compromised its just windows or
your previder telling you you are doing something outside their
strict guidelines.




On 5/23/2018 8:42 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Because my messenger account has been hacked, I'm trying to either
delete the account or change the password, but I can't seem to do
this on the messenger site so far with NVDA.
https://www.messenger.comFor some reason, it's not reading the
settings dialog box. I've tried some of the mouse commands but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?

--
Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe Jackie McBride Helping
Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time https://brighter-vision.com

On May 22, 2018 4:24 PM, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:

Abbie, messenger is now a part of facebook. So do you have a facebook account?

On 5/22/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm you should be able to change the password.

To be honest, when ms/ google says you have been hacked, just like
windows flagging things,  I don't know if it has or not.

I had the same issue with google sync, an update and reload had to be done.

The program crashed in the middle of signup.

Google then said I was hacked and needed to change my password.

It will also do that if you go to another location then signin from your
home location, sometimes it puts up a security message sometimes not.

Either you don't get it or respond fast enough and boom.

A friend had this with an ms account.

Her system lost power in the middle of a feature windows update.

Nothing worked, eventually she had to reformat her pc, and windows
mobile phone, change her passwords then create another account for it to
work.

Some of that was her isp doing strange things but everything got out of
sync, and then things got confused.

I had the same situation with a business system I was working on, the
encripted drive crashed.

Some backups were made but not everything.

The system was reinstalled on a new box, but again, security was just
crazy.

Eventually with some professional recovery technitions the drives were
recovered, the accounts were updated, but it envolved a lot of mucking
about.

I am more inclined to think if something says your account is hacked
that your account is not in fact compromised its just windows or your
previder telling you you are doing something outside their strict
guidelines.




On 5/23/2018 8:42 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Because my messenger account has been hacked, I'm trying to either
delete the account or change the password, but I can't seem to do this
on the messenger site so far with NVDA. https://www.messenger.comFor
some reason, it's not reading the settings dialog box. I've tried some
of the mouse commands but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?

--
Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe
Jackie McBride
Helping Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time
https://brighter-vision.com

On 5/22/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm you should be able to change the password.

To be honest, when ms/ google says you have been hacked, just like
windows flagging things,  I don't know if it has or not.

I had the same issue with google sync, an update and reload had to be done.

The program crashed in the middle of signup.

Google then said I was hacked and needed to change my password.

It will also do that if you go to another location then signin from your
home location, sometimes it puts up a security message sometimes not.

Either you don't get it or respond fast enough and boom.

A friend had this with an ms account.

Her system lost power in the middle of a feature windows update.

Nothing worked, eventually she had to reformat her pc, and windows
mobile phone, change her passwords then create another account for it to
work.

Some of that was her isp doing strange things but everything got out of
sync, and then things got confused.

I had the same situation with a business system I was working on, the
encripted drive crashed.

Some backups were made but not everything.

The system was reinstalled on a new box, but again, security was just
crazy.

Eventually with some professional recovery technitions the drives were
recovered, the accounts were updated, but it envolved a lot of mucking
about.

I am more inclined to think if something says your account is hacked
that your account is not in fact compromised its just windows or your
previder telling you you are doing something outside their strict
guidelines.




On 5/23/2018 8:42 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Because my messenger account has been hacked, I'm trying to either
delete the account or change the password, but I can't seem to do this
on the messenger site so far with NVDA. https://www.messenger.comFor
some reason, it's not reading the settings dialog box. I've tried some
of the mouse commands but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?

I have successfully created a portable copy of NVDA on my flash drive. How do I run it on another lap top computer?               

On 5/23/2018 8:42 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Because my messenger account has been hacked, I'm trying to either delete the account or change the password, but I can't seem to do this on the messenger site so far with NVDA. https://www.messenger.comFor some reason, it's not reading the settings dialog box. I've tried some of the mouse commands but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?

Hello,
First, sorry for writing in this mail instead of write in the main topic, I lost it.
Secondly and now talking about what's really interesting :)
Try to maximize the Messenger's window with alt+spacebar and X, if I'm not mistaken.
After you did it, go to the top of the page then navigate as on any other page.
Hope it can help you.

Cheers,
Marcio


Em 22/05/2018 18:18, Abbie Taylor escreveu:

No, I don't have Jaws. I do have System Access so may try it with that later. Thanks.


On 5/22/2018 2:43 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Maybe you can try it with Jaws if you have it.




On 5/22/2018 1:42 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Because my messenger account has been hacked, I'm trying to either delete the account or change the password, but I can't seem to do this on the messenger site so far with NVDA. https://www.messenger.comFor some reason, it's not reading the settings dialog box. I've tried some of the mouse commands but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?

No, I don't have Jaws. I do have System Access so may try it with that later. Thanks.


On 5/22/2018 2:43 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Maybe you can try it with Jaws if you have it.




On 5/22/2018 1:42 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Because my messenger account has been hacked, I'm trying to either delete the account or change the password, but I can't seem to do this on the messenger site so far with NVDA. https://www.messenger.comFor some reason, it's not reading the settings dialog box. I've tried some of the mouse commands but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?

I have successfully created a portable copy of NVDA on my flash drive. How do I run it on another lap top computer?               

On 5/22/2018 2:43 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Maybe you can try it with Jaws if you have it.




On 5/22/2018 1:42 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Because my messenger account has been hacked, I'm trying to either delete the account or change the password, but I can't seem to do this on the messenger site so far with NVDA. https://www.messenger.comFor some reason, it's not reading the settings dialog box. I've tried some of the mouse commands but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?