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Re: Finding older versions of NVDA?

 

Matt,

          I'm not seeing any obvious "Get Older Versions" link for NVDA at the main NVDA website.  As it happens I still have a copy of the 2015.4 install program on my computer.  Please feel free to send me a private reply if you'd like me to zip it up and e-mail it to you (since virtually no e-mail programs allow you to send executable files as attachments in their native form - and for good reason).

Brian


Re: Finding older versions of NVDA?

Kyle Borah
 

It is perfectly acceptable to run 2016.1 as a portable copy. Any particular reason you want 2015.4? also, running old versions of programs is a security risk. Newer versions of programs always patch up security wholes and bugs. A determined disassembler could have NVDA hacked just waiting to exploit an old buggy version. While not probable still possible.

Kyle

-----Original Message-----
From: Aravind R [mailto:aravind.andhrabank@...]
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 9:31 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding older versions of NVDA?

Get NVDA from: http://www.nvaccess.org/

On 3/7/16, Matt Turner <meturner2214@...> wrote:
Hi, I'm looking for NVDA 2015.4, to use as a Portable copy.

--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

 

Zoe,

         In addition to mk360's suggestion, which is a good one, you might also try the NVDA "Toggle application sleep mode on/off" keystroke to essentially suspend NVDA completely until/unless you hit the toggle keystroke sequence again.  It's NVDA+Shift+S if you're using the desktop keyboard layout and NVDA+Shift+z with the laptop layout.

         I've used this same sort of command with ZoomText with clients who use a screen reader and ZoomText and it makes deactivating ZoomText and reactivating it much faster than actually shutting the program down and restarting it.  I feel fairly certain that an application toggle probably exists for JAWS, too, but I can't seem to find that at the moment.

Brian


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

Kyle Borah
 

I would ask why don’t you just use NVDA to read in English as well? NVDA reads perfectly good English.

 

Kyle

 

From: Zoe Fiogkos [mailto:fiogkos@...]
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 9:39 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] jaws & NVDA in combination

 

Hi everyone, I’m not sure where I should be asking this question, here on the NVDA list or the jaws list.  Please forgive me if I’m wrong in asking here.  Sometimes I use jaws & NVDA simoltaniously. The reason for this is I use NVDA to read in my native tongue, and jaws to read in English.  Let’s say I’m in a webpage reading with jaws, and I need to switch to NVDA  I click insert plus s to turn off speech in jaws and then I turn on NVDA with control alt n.  this is great I do what I need to do with nvda. The problem is when I want to go back to jaws I axially half to exit NVDA because the muting NVDA and clicking insert s to turn jaws speech back on doesn’t work when running NVDA. Any ideas how I can solve this problem?

Thanks for any responses

Regards

Zoe


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

Chris
 

hi,

does not NVDA+S not work for yu in NVDA?


On 07/03/2016 15:58, mk360 wrote:
You can change the insert s key to other in NVDA.

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, I’m not sure where I should be asking this question, here on the NVDA list or the jaws list.  Please forgive me if I’m wrong in asking here.  Sometimes I use jaws & NVDA simoltaniously. The reason for this is I use NVDA to read in my native tongue, and jaws to read in English.  Let’s say I’m in a webpage reading with jaws, and I need to switch to NVDA  I click insert plus s to turn off speech in jaws and then I turn on NVDA with control alt n.  this is great I do what I need to do with nvda. The problem is when I want to go back to jaws I axially half to exit NVDA because the muting NVDA and clicking insert s to turn jaws speech back on doesn’t work when running NVDA. Any ideas how I can solve this problem?

Thanks for any responses

Regards

Zoe




Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

 

Zoe,

         Has someone customized your JAWS installation as far as keystrokes go in some way?  The typical keystroke set to toggle speech on/off in JAWS (at least in the versions I've been tutoring, which goes back to JAWS 14) is INS+SPACEBAR, followed by S  (substitute CAPS LOCK for INS if you're using laptop keyboard layout) and I've never had INS+S toggle speech in JAWS (but that's the toggle [or switcher, in default mode] in NVDA).

         I do, however, use the NoBeepsSpeechMode add-on in NVDA so that INS+S is a true toggle on/off for speech rather than a three-way switcher.

         Another option would be trying the "Pass Key Through" command in either JAWS [INS+3 on the number row] or NVDA [NVDA+F2], depending on which needs to be ignoring the next keystroke and passing it along to the other, before you hit the INS+S toggle.  I imagine order of processing precedence will be determined by which screen reader has focus at that moment, JAWS versus NVDA, but you'd have to play with this technique to test that out.

Brian


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

mk360
 

You can change the insert s key to other in NVDA.

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, I’m not sure where I should be asking this question, here on the NVDA list or the jaws list.  Please forgive me if I’m wrong in asking here.  Sometimes I use jaws & NVDA simoltaniously. The reason for this is I use NVDA to read in my native tongue, and jaws to read in English.  Let’s say I’m in a webpage reading with jaws, and I need to switch to NVDA  I click insert plus s to turn off speech in jaws and then I turn on NVDA with control alt n.  this is great I do what I need to do with nvda. The problem is when I want to go back to jaws I axially half to exit NVDA because the muting NVDA and clicking insert s to turn jaws speech back on doesn’t work when running NVDA. Any ideas how I can solve this problem?

Thanks for any responses

Regards

Zoe



jaws & NVDA in combination

Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Hi everyone, I’m not sure where I should be asking this question, here on the NVDA list or the jaws list.  Please forgive me if I’m wrong in asking here.  Sometimes I use jaws & NVDA simoltaniously. The reason for this is I use NVDA to read in my native tongue, and jaws to read in English.  Let’s say I’m in a webpage reading with jaws, and I need to switch to NVDA  I click insert plus s to turn off speech in jaws and then I turn on NVDA with control alt n.  this is great I do what I need to do with nvda. The problem is when I want to go back to jaws I axially half to exit NVDA because the muting NVDA and clicking insert s to turn jaws speech back on doesn’t work when running NVDA. Any ideas how I can solve this problem?

Thanks for any responses

Regards

Zoe


Re: Finding older versions of NVDA?

Aravind R
 

On 3/7/16, Matt Turner <meturner2214@...> wrote:
Hi, I'm looking for NVDA 2015.4, to use as a Portable copy.
--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....


Re: Antivirus

Pete <emac00@...>
 

I have been using avira's antivir here for a while. Mostly accessible. my wife uses it also and she got that windows explorer virus wear explorer can't open files or folders any more. using it since windows 98 I think I got infections 2 may be 3 times. So may be not so good. last infection had to do with windows explorer and the infection changed characters to strange symbols.


Finding older versions of NVDA?

Matt Turner
 

Hi, I'm looking for NVDA 2015.4, to use as a Portable copy.


Re: Antivirus

Angela Delicata
 

Hi,
I use eset nod32.

Il 07/03/2016 13:33, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io ha scritto:
I am using sophus and after a bit of a shaky start I now have it on 3 of
my many computers and it is Ok seems to be fully accessible. I admit I
have not looked around to see what the ratings are like but I might now
that I have thought about it.

On 07/03/2016 12:11, Gene wrote:
There are other e-mail programs with much better ratings that are
reasonably accessible and don't slow things down. Knowledgeable
people differ on whether Windows Defender is adequate and people
should read about the subject. When Kim Komando recommends that
people use something else and Ars Technica (spelling) does as well,
that in my opinion, is cause for serious consideration.

With reasonable care, Windows Defender may be alright but it has poor
detection rates compared with many programs.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:12 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Well, all anti virus programs tend to have one weakness, even if that is
that you cannot actually use it with a screenreader or it slows down
stuff.

I have to say that msse/defender is maybe not as featured as many, but
unless you are the sort of person who goes recklessly clicking dodgy
links
in phishing emails or web sites, thus far checks with other products
on my
machines have not revealed anything very malicious. The pundits always
have
their favourites, and certainly do not have the added issues of
accessibility, but we have to live in the world as it is, as I'm
constantly
reminded, so compromise is often what one ends up with.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


As has been repeatedly discussed here, it's not a question of how
accessible
the program is. Many advisors say that it is better to use something
else
because it isn't as good at detecting malware as they think it should be.

It seems to me that this program is contraversial enough that when people
ask about it, those who discuss it should say that there is a
contraversy,
and what it is. I believe that those considering using the program
should
be encouraged to look into the contraversy.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:52 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Yes, I hear it works well for 8 and 10.



From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
Sent: March-06-16 4:41 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus



Hi, Nut,

I'm using windows defender and it's working great for me.

Rosemarie




On 3/6/2016 3:39 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi all,

I'm thinking of upgrading to Windows 10, probably during my summer
holiday
of this year, and I'm wondering, will Windows Defender be good enough? I
have Sandboxie and VMware installed (anything I think is suspicious I
either
run them in Sandboxie or VMware). I'm giving Nod32 a particular
attention as
I do have access to a licensed copy through my university.

If Windows Defender is not good enough, is Nod32 (any version)
accessible
with NVDA? In terms of being able to read and properly interact with
alert
dialogs and settings windows.








Re: Antivirus

Kevin Cussick
 

I am using sophus and after a bit of a shaky start I now have it on 3 of my many computers and it is Ok seems to be fully accessible. I admit I have not looked around to see what the ratings are like but I might now that I have thought about it.

On 07/03/2016 12:11, Gene wrote:
There are other e-mail programs with much better ratings that are reasonably accessible and don't slow things down. Knowledgeable people differ on whether Windows Defender is adequate and people should read about the subject. When Kim Komando recommends that people use something else and Ars Technica (spelling) does as well, that in my opinion, is cause for serious consideration.

With reasonable care, Windows Defender may be alright but it has poor detection rates compared with many programs.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:12 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Well, all anti virus programs tend to have one weakness, even if that is
that you cannot actually use it with a screenreader or it slows down stuff.

I have to say that msse/defender is maybe not as featured as many, but
unless you are the sort of person who goes recklessly clicking dodgy links
in phishing emails or web sites, thus far checks with other products on my
machines have not revealed anything very malicious. The pundits always have
their favourites, and certainly do not have the added issues of
accessibility, but we have to live in the world as it is, as I'm constantly
reminded, so compromise is often what one ends up with.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


As has been repeatedly discussed here, it's not a question of how accessible
the program is. Many advisors say that it is better to use something else
because it isn't as good at detecting malware as they think it should be.

It seems to me that this program is contraversial enough that when people
ask about it, those who discuss it should say that there is a contraversy,
and what it is. I believe that those considering using the program should
be encouraged to look into the contraversy.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:52 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Yes, I hear it works well for 8 and 10.



From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
Sent: March-06-16 4:41 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus



Hi, Nut,

I'm using windows defender and it's working great for me.

Rosemarie




On 3/6/2016 3:39 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi all,

I'm thinking of upgrading to Windows 10, probably during my summer holiday
of this year, and I'm wondering, will Windows Defender be good enough? I
have Sandboxie and VMware installed (anything I think is suspicious I either
run them in Sandboxie or VMware). I'm giving Nod32 a particular attention as
I do have access to a licensed copy through my university.

If Windows Defender is not good enough, is Nod32 (any version) accessible
with NVDA? In terms of being able to read and properly interact with alert
dialogs and settings windows.








Re: Antivirus

Gene
 

What I meant to say is that there are other antimalware programs with much better ratings.
 
Gene

----- Original message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

There are other e-mail programs with much better ratings that are reasonably accessible and don't slow things down.  Knowledgeable people differ on whether Windows Defender is adequate and people should read about the subject.  When Kim Komando recommends that people use something else and Ars Technica (spelling) does as well, that in my opinion, is cause for serious consideration. 
 
With reasonable care, Windows Defender may be alright but it has poor detection rates compared with many programs.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

Well, all anti virus programs tend to have  one weakness, even if that is
that you cannot actually use it with a screenreader or it slows down stuff.

I have to say that msse/defender is maybe not as featured as  many, but
unless you are the sort of person who goes recklessly clicking dodgy links
in phishing emails or web sites, thus far checks with other products on my
machines have not revealed anything very malicious. The pundits always have
their favourites, and certainly do not have the added issues of
accessibility, but we have to live in the world as it is, as I'm constantly
reminded, so compromise is often what one ends up with.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


As has been repeatedly discussed here, it's not a question of how accessible
the program is.  Many advisors say that it is better to use something else
because it isn't as good at detecting malware as they think it should be.

It seems to me that this program is contraversial enough that when people
ask about it, those who discuss it should say that there is a contraversy,
and what it is.  I believe that those considering using the program should
be encouraged to look into the contraversy.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:52 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Yes, I hear it works well for 8 and 10.



From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
Sent: March-06-16 4:41 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus



Hi, Nut,

I'm using windows defender and it's working great for me.

Rosemarie




On 3/6/2016 3:39 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

  Hi all,

  I'm thinking of upgrading to Windows 10, probably during my summer holiday
of this year, and I'm wondering, will Windows Defender be good enough? I
have Sandboxie and VMware installed (anything I think is suspicious I either
run them in Sandboxie or VMware). I'm giving Nod32 a particular attention as
I do have access to a licensed copy through my university.

  If Windows Defender is not good enough, is Nod32 (any version) accessible
with NVDA? In terms of being able to read and properly interact with alert
dialogs and settings windows.








Re: Antivirus

Gene
 

There are other e-mail programs with much better ratings that are reasonably accessible and don't slow things down.  Knowledgeable people differ on whether Windows Defender is adequate and people should read about the subject.  When Kim Komando recommends that people use something else and Ars Technica (spelling) does as well, that in my opinion, is cause for serious consideration. 
 
With reasonable care, Windows Defender may be alright but it has poor detection rates compared with many programs.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

Well, all anti virus programs tend to have  one weakness, even if that is
that you cannot actually use it with a screenreader or it slows down stuff.

I have to say that msse/defender is maybe not as featured as  many, but
unless you are the sort of person who goes recklessly clicking dodgy links
in phishing emails or web sites, thus far checks with other products on my
machines have not revealed anything very malicious. The pundits always have
their favourites, and certainly do not have the added issues of
accessibility, but we have to live in the world as it is, as I'm constantly
reminded, so compromise is often what one ends up with.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


As has been repeatedly discussed here, it's not a question of how accessible
the program is.  Many advisors say that it is better to use something else
because it isn't as good at detecting malware as they think it should be.

It seems to me that this program is contraversial enough that when people
ask about it, those who discuss it should say that there is a contraversy,
and what it is.  I believe that those considering using the program should
be encouraged to look into the contraversy.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:52 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Yes, I hear it works well for 8 and 10.



From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
Sent: March-06-16 4:41 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus



Hi, Nut,

I'm using windows defender and it's working great for me.

Rosemarie




On 3/6/2016 3:39 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

  Hi all,

  I'm thinking of upgrading to Windows 10, probably during my summer holiday
of this year, and I'm wondering, will Windows Defender be good enough? I
have Sandboxie and VMware installed (anything I think is suspicious I either
run them in Sandboxie or VMware). I'm giving Nod32 a particular attention as
I do have access to a licensed copy through my university.

  If Windows Defender is not good enough, is Nod32 (any version) accessible
with NVDA? In terms of being able to read and properly interact with alert
dialogs and settings windows.








Re: nvda and libreoffice

Mallard
 

Josh,

Go for LibreOffice.
It has been accessible for a long time now; the latest versions definitely are.

Ciao,
Ollie

Il 04/03/2016 18:30, Josh Kennedy ha scritto:
hi
is libreoffice or openoffice or both now accessible with NVDA without the java access bridge? if so which one and which version?


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Brandon,

 

What an excellent tutorial! This is a great gift, thanks.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 5:58 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,


Re: Antivirus

 

Well I ran malwarebytes a few days ago and found they changed it again such as I had to use another reader to do bits of the scan.
while it did find some bad bits they were left overs and not malicious processes and while I did clear those bits who knows.
You are right, every security system has its weekness.
The only good av protection I think is a online cloud based one msse is supposed to be cloud protected if you allow that to be the case and it is.
But others must have that to.
I forgot what it is now but back in the day I had a program /tuneup /security tool that did av and other protection, it would suggest stuff when you installed or downloaded stuff or well tried to do almost everything.
From time to time it found some good stuff.

On 7/03/2016 9:12 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Well, all anti virus programs tend to have one weakness, even if that
is that you cannot actually use it with a screenreader or it slows down
stuff.

I have to say that msse/defender is maybe not as featured as many, but
unless you are the sort of person who goes recklessly clicking dodgy
links in phishing emails or web sites, thus far checks with other
products on my machines have not revealed anything very malicious. The
pundits always have their favourites, and certainly do not have the
added issues of accessibility, but we have to live in the world as it
is, as I'm constantly reminded, so compromise is often what one ends up
with.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


As has been repeatedly discussed here, it's not a question of how
accessible the program is. Many advisors say that it is better to use
something else because it isn't as good at detecting malware as they
think it should be.

It seems to me that this program is contraversial enough that when
people ask about it, those who discuss it should say that there is a
contraversy, and what it is. I believe that those considering using the
program should be encouraged to look into the contraversy.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:52 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Yes, I hear it works well for 8 and 10.



From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
Sent: March-06-16 4:41 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus



Hi, Nut,

I'm using windows defender and it's working great for me.

Rosemarie




On 3/6/2016 3:39 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi all,

I'm thinking of upgrading to Windows 10, probably during my summer
holiday of this year, and I'm wondering, will Windows Defender be good
enough? I have Sandboxie and VMware installed (anything I think is
suspicious I either run them in Sandboxie or VMware). I'm giving Nod32 a
particular attention as I do have access to a licensed copy through my
university.

If Windows Defender is not good enough, is Nod32 (any version)
accessible with NVDA? In terms of being able to read and properly
interact with alert dialogs and settings windows.








Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

David Moore
 

Hi Rosemarie,
Wasn’t that awesome? I used to use the Gmail website, but I used basic HTML, and did not know about all of the built-in key commands right on the web site. We could get out of using a client altogether. Have a great one.
 
 

Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA
 
Hi, Brandon,

Could you make it into an mp3 file? That way I can have it or future reference.

Rosemarie



On 3/6/2016 9:58 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.
Thanks,



Re: Antivirus

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Well, all anti virus programs tend to have one weakness, even if that is that you cannot actually use it with a screenreader or it slows down stuff.

I have to say that msse/defender is maybe not as featured as many, but unless you are the sort of person who goes recklessly clicking dodgy links in phishing emails or web sites, thus far checks with other products on my machines have not revealed anything very malicious. The pundits always have their favourites, and certainly do not have the added issues of accessibility, but we have to live in the world as it is, as I'm constantly reminded, so compromise is often what one ends up with.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


As has been repeatedly discussed here, it's not a question of how accessible the program is. Many advisors say that it is better to use something else because it isn't as good at detecting malware as they think it should be.

It seems to me that this program is contraversial enough that when people ask about it, those who discuss it should say that there is a contraversy, and what it is. I believe that those considering using the program should be encouraged to look into the contraversy.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:52 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Yes, I hear it works well for 8 and 10.



From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
Sent: March-06-16 4:41 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus



Hi, Nut,

I'm using windows defender and it's working great for me.

Rosemarie




On 3/6/2016 3:39 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi all,

I'm thinking of upgrading to Windows 10, probably during my summer holiday of this year, and I'm wondering, will Windows Defender be good enough? I have Sandboxie and VMware installed (anything I think is suspicious I either run them in Sandboxie or VMware). I'm giving Nod32 a particular attention as I do have access to a licensed copy through my university.

If Windows Defender is not good enough, is Nod32 (any version) accessible with NVDA? In terms of being able to read and properly interact with alert dialogs and settings windows.