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Re: HELLO THERE

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Darren,

As Chris said, welcome!

Re add-ons, you can find them either from the NVDA addon's screen in the tools menu (from the "Get addons" link) or from the same page which is http://addons.nvda-project.org/

I'll leave others to suggest their favourites, but I'll offer that if you are interested in learning more of the ins and outs of the program and what it can do, I'd recommend the official Basic Training for NVDA (caveat, yes, I wrote it) module, which is available in electronic text, audio or hardcopy Braille from: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Welcome again, and do feel free to ask any other questions you come up with!

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Darren Harris via Groups.Io <darren_g_harris@...> wrote:

Hi there,

 

I’m a new nvda user. I’m liking it so far I’m really impressed with it.

 

I’m just wondering about any good addons that might be useful. What do people favour using? I use programmes like iTunes and winamp and skype. I haven’t yet downloaded skype onto my new machine as I’m told it’s not that accessible. Would like more information on this.




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Re: how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not announce punctuation?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Zahra,

Rather than the speech dictionary (which is designed to change how particular words are pronounced), you want to edit the "Punctuation / Symbol pronunciation" options.  Press NVDA+N, then P then find that option in the list and press ENTER to open the dialog.

You can either arrow through the list to find the punctuation to edit, if it is already there, or activate the "Add" button to add a new entry.

When you add a new entry, it asks you to type the symbol to be changed.  Do that and press ENTER.
Next you can tab to "replace" and type the word you want NVDA to read when reading that symbol.
The important one you want I think though, is "Level".  When you change the punctuation level with NVDA+P, any symbol in this list will get read if it's level is at least as high as the current symbol level.  EG if you set the symbol level of a symbol to "Most", When NVDA is set to symbol level none, or some, it won't be read out, but if it is set to most or all, it will be.

See how you go and if that helps.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 8:10 PM, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
as i said before,
i use nvda 2016.4 forever.
but it does not matter, i have this issue since nvda 2016.2 (which
changed to espeak ng).
i know that i should find speech dictionaries and find voice dictionary.
then press enter on add button and in the pattern type my punctuation
which i dont want to hear in sayAll,
then what exactly should i type in replacement that nvda never does
not announce this punctuation at all when using sayAll and i hear it
only when i need editing documents by navigating letter by letter?

On 5/24/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
> Which version of nvda do you have at the moment. Obviously this could be a
> Persian only issue, but I have occasionally noticed that in order to say
> every punctuation entry some need to be altered in the  punctuation list to
>
> always, in more than one place.
>  Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
> To: "nvda" <nvda@groups.io>; "Mary Otten" <motten53@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:53 PM
> Subject: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not
> announce punctuation?
>
>
>> hello every one.
>> when espeak became espeak ng, it had many improvements and goodnesses
>> for persian users.
>> but it faced some problems as well.
>> espeak sometimes  announce some punctuations like kama in persian and
>> one other more that i dont know there spelling in english.
>> i set punctuation none, but sometimes espeak does not respect my
>> choice and announce some punctuation.
>> hearing punctuations is very annoying for me and i dont want to nvda
>> announces them unless when navigating letter by letter.
>> but the problem occures even in sayAll, that i dont need editing and i
>> only want to study books and articles.
>> i sincerely appreciate your help and pray for you, God bless you all!
>>
>> --
>> By God,
>> were I given all the seven heavens
>> with all they contain
>> in order that
>> I may disobey God
>> by depriving an ant
>> from the husk of a grain of barley,
>> I would not do it.
>> imam ali
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Best Synthesizer

Dr. J. michael jones
 

Thanks


On May 24, 2018, at 2:02 PM, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley@...> wrote:

There is nothing better than sapi voices

Don’t waste your time or money on anything else. Have a nice day now 😃

 


Re: Best Synthesizer

Chris
 

There is nothing better than sapi voices

Don’t waste your time or money on anything else. Have a nice day now 😃

 


Re: HELLO THERE

Chris
 

If you are running windows 10, then the first add-on you should have, is the win10 app essentials add-on

That will make windows 10 just that little bit more accessible

 

Oh, and welcome 😃

 

 


Re: Best Synthesizer

 

There are synthesizers like Vocalizer and Acapella, but these are paid. In Windows 10 you can also use the Windows Onecore voices.
Sincerely,
Artin Dekker


Op 24-5-2018 om 10:24 schreef Dr. J. michael jones:

Hello, what is the best sounding synthesizer that NVDA supports? I know it supports SAPI, but can it work with anything better?

Thanks for anything

 



HELLO THERE

Darren Harris
 

Hi there,

 

I’m a new nvda user. I’m liking it so far I’m really impressed with it.

 

I’m just wondering about any good addons that might be useful. What do people favour using? I use programmes like iTunes and winamp and skype. I haven’t yet downloaded skype onto my new machine as I’m told it’s not that accessible. Would like more information on this.


Best Synthesizer

Dr. J. michael jones
 

Hello, what is the best sounding synthesizer that NVDA supports? I know it supports SAPI, but can it work with anything better?

Thanks for anything

 


Re: how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not announce punctuation?

 

as i said before,
i use nvda 2016.4 forever.
but it does not matter, i have this issue since nvda 2016.2 (which
changed to espeak ng).
i know that i should find speech dictionaries and find voice dictionary.
then press enter on add button and in the pattern type my punctuation
which i dont want to hear in sayAll,
then what exactly should i type in replacement that nvda never does
not announce this punctuation at all when using sayAll and i hear it
only when i need editing documents by navigating letter by letter?

On 5/24/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Which version of nvda do you have at the moment. Obviously this could be a
Persian only issue, but I have occasionally noticed that in order to say
every punctuation entry some need to be altered in the punctuation list to

always, in more than one place.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@groups.io>; "Mary Otten" <motten53@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not
announce punctuation?


hello every one.
when espeak became espeak ng, it had many improvements and goodnesses
for persian users.
but it faced some problems as well.
espeak sometimes announce some punctuations like kama in persian and
one other more that i dont know there spelling in english.
i set punctuation none, but sometimes espeak does not respect my
choice and announce some punctuation.
hearing punctuations is very annoying for me and i dont want to nvda
announces them unless when navigating letter by letter.
but the problem occures even in sayAll, that i dont need editing and i
only want to study books and articles.
i sincerely appreciate your help and pray for you, God bless you all!

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali






--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] orbit reader20 back on sale

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I personally cannot afford the normal ones and having tried them and having a heavy touch, find them very hard to read.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ervin, Glenn" <glenn.ervin@nebraska.gov>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] orbit reader20 back on sale


Don’t folks use Braille displays with NVDA?


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 4:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] orbit reader20 back on sale


Hi, Josh,



I think this should go on a list like the windows 10 list. It has nothing to do with NVDA.



Rosemarie





On 5/23/2018 1:50 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
Hi
I just got an email stating orbit reader20 braille display back on sale tomorrow may 24th. So if you want one now is the time to put in your order.



Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10




Re: orbit reader20 back on sale

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Its pretty dumb but I gather it has been used.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] orbit reader20 back on sale


Hi, Gene,
If the Orbit reader can be used with NVDA, then I apologize.
Rosemarie
On 5/23/2018 2:21 PM, Gene wrote:
Assuming the Orbit Reader can be used with NVDA, it is relevant to NVdA and has nothing specifically to do with any version of Windows.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2018 4:14 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] orbit reader20 back on sale

Hi, Josh,


I think this should go on a list like the windows 10 list. It has nothing to do with NVDA.


Rosemarie




On 5/23/2018 1:50 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi

I just got an email stating orbit reader20 braille display back on sale tomorrow may 24^th . So if you want one now is the time to put in your order.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10


Re: orbit reader20 back on sale

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

According to RNIB in the UK its never reached here at al yet apart from a few demo and evaluation displays. I'm interested insofar as according to reports people like myself with a heavy touch may find it easer to read than the old expensive displays.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] orbit reader20 back on sale


Hi
I just got an email stating orbit reader20 braille display back on sale tomorrow may 24th. So if you want one now is the time to put in your order.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not announce punctuation?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Which version of nvda do you have at the moment. Obviously this could be a Persian only issue, but I have occasionally noticed that in order to say every punctuation entry some need to be altered in the punctuation list to always, in more than one place.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@groups.io>; "Mary Otten" <motten53@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not announce punctuation?


hello every one.
when espeak became espeak ng, it had many improvements and goodnesses
for persian users.
but it faced some problems as well.
espeak sometimes announce some punctuations like kama in persian and
one other more that i dont know there spelling in english.
i set punctuation none, but sometimes espeak does not respect my
choice and announce some punctuation.
hearing punctuations is very annoying for me and i dont want to nvda
announces them unless when navigating letter by letter.
but the problem occures even in sayAll, that i dont need editing and i
only want to study books and articles.
i sincerely appreciate your help and pray for you, God bless you all!

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: User Account Control Dialog Not Speaking

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Its never worked on windows 7 for me even though I do have the setting shared with secure and log in screens on.
its not a real issue as most of the time uac is off, but can be at times when windows decides it wants to put it on without telling me!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Sapergia" <ksapergia@sasktel.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:17 PM
Subject: [nvda] User Account Control Dialog Not Speaking


Hi,

I don't exactly know when this started happening, but I've noticed that when
the User Account Control window comes up on one of my computers, the name of
the window is spoken, but not the dialog or it's buttons. I know I can press
Alt+Y to accept the dialog, but I'm curious as to why this behavior would be
occurring. I've noticed this with both NVDA and JAWS, whereas on my other
system that's using NVDA exclusively, the dialog works fine. (I'm using
Windows 10 Pro on the system where the dialog isn't reading properly.)
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to solve the issue?

Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
Show Host and Production Director
The Global Voice Internet Radio
www.theglobalvoice.info

Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net
Business Site (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com
Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia




Re: What will be with Espeak NG?

Angela Delicata
 

This is very great news!!!

Thank you so much for your priceless work.


Angela  from Italy

On 5/23/18, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Marco,

Actually we don't develop eSpeak to begin with. We use eSpeak NG which has
a GitHub repository and is open source, just like NVDA:
https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng

We are still including eSpeak NG with NVDA. We are just changing the
default synthesizer when you install it on Windows 10, to the Windows
OneCore voices. From talking with users, and importantly, with people who
don't use NVDA (and why), we found that a lot of people "Like NVDA, but the
voice is very robotic". As much as we would encourage people to explore
the settings and find a setup that works for them, the truth is, people,
particularly when testing something new, will first try the default setup,
and if something is too jarring (as eSpeak NG is for some users), they may
stop using it and not come back, even though if they were using Windows 10,
there are more human sounding voices available on their system.

So, for NVDA 2018.2, we are making Windows OneCore voice the default on
Windows 10, but we will still bundle eSpeak with NVDA, and we know many
advanced users will switch back to it, and that is fine. Note if you
already have NVDA installed and upgrade to NVDA 2018.2, it won't change
what you have setup.

I hope that answers your question, but if you have any more questions,
please don't hesitate to ask!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Marco Oros <marco.oros93@gmail.com> wrote:

I have heard, that default synthesizer will be Windows Onecore and not
Espeak NG. I have a question.
NVDA team will stop implement new versions of Espeak? Or, why this thing
were happened?
Thank You.
Marco Oros



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http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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Re: About Linux

Mallard
 

Hello guys,


I didn't want to participae in this discussion, because it's O.T. here, but I've followed the thread with quite a bit of interest.


I tried to use Linux many times over the last 20 years, more or less successfully depending on times and distros.


At the moment I don't have a Linux installation on my machine, but I'd like to go back to it.


Since I saw there are a number of very savvy Linux users here, could any of them help me choose the most suitable distro for my current pc?


If anyone is willing to help, please contact me off-list at


mallard@kimabe.eu


and I can give you details. I don't want to continue tuis O.T. here.


Ciao, thanks in advance,

Ollie

Il 23/05/2018 16:22, Antony Stone ha scritto:
So long as you trust yourself never to make a mistake when you have admin /
root privilege on the machine, then by all means use your own computer in this
way.

However, there are good reasons why almost all Linux documentation referring
to the use of the root account or the su / sudo commands advises not to work
with this level of privilege on the machine for longer than necessary, simply
as a method of damage limitation.

A standard user can only damage their own files and not any part of the system.

The root user can damage everything.


Antony.

On Wednesday 23 May 2018 at 16:16:26, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

My Linux computers go nowhere outside the home, and I have an up-to-date
firewall in my up-to-date router, so I think unless one is in coffee shops
with it, you can remove all such things. I turn off the password at log-in
too.
Glenn


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon
Cross Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] About Linux

I'm sorry, but if that's the impression you have, you are much mistaken.
This is not only advisable, it can be dangerous. Stop and think about it
for a second. Why would they make an operating system where you had to
type one command before any other command you type? Doesn't make sense,
does it? Also, remember that you are authenticating each time you do this,
even though it may be set up so that you don't need to use your password
each and every time, which ever command you use with sudo gets elevated to
root status. A little reading will tell you all you need to know. I don't
like it when people spread information that could harm other people's
machines or harm them in some way, accidentally is one thing, but if you
just say oh its ok, you're being intentionally ignorant. Then, what
happens if someone inexperienced comes along and sees this and tries it,
maybe nothing, maybe they type sudo rm -rf * from the root directory, then
bye bye machine.


Re: changing voice rate

richard kurlander <r.kurlander@...>
 

thanks.At 02:08 AM 5/24/2018, you wrote:

Hi


The short cut way is use the nvda key + ctrl key + the down arrow key to
decrease speaking rate. If while still holding down the ctrl key + nvda
key then using the up arrow key will speed it up just reverse to slow it
down. it should be the default when you do that.


Gene nz



On 5/24/2018 5:00 PM, richard kurlander wrote:
when I hit ctrlaltn and nvda comes on voice rate fast how do you
change using newest nvda forgot the keystrokes and where to find them
by hitting the key, don't remember which key.





Re: turning off nvda

richard kurlander <r.kurlander@...>
 

thanks.At 02:05 AM 5/24/2018, you wrote:

Hi


it is the nvda key + letter Q dialogue box will come up with some
options one is quit nvda then tab to ok then press the enter key. it
will then shut down.


Gene nz



On 5/24/2018 5:59 PM, richard kurlander wrote:
how do you turn off nvda?





Re: turning off nvda

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Richard,

Gene gave you the instructions for exiting NVDA (NVDA+q, then ENTER - and note that the NVDA key will be either INSERT or CAPS LOCK depending on your setup).  One other thing I'll mention just in case it is of interest to you.  We have a "Basic Training for NVDA" module which you might be interested in.  The module is available in electronic text, audio and hardcopy Braille.  See https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ for details if you are interested.

Of course, you are most welcome to ask questions here, you may find that the training module answers some of them before you need to ask.

Kind regards,

Quentin.

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 3:59 PM, richard kurlander <r.kurlander@...> wrote:
how do you turn off nvda?







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Training and Support Manager

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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
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Re: changing voice rate

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


The short cut way is use the nvda key + ctrl key + the down arrow key to
decrease speaking rate. If while still holding down the ctrl key + nvda
key then using the up arrow key will speed it up just reverse to slow it
down. it should be the default when you do that.


Gene nz

On 5/24/2018 5:00 PM, richard kurlander wrote:
when I hit ctrlaltn and nvda comes on voice rate fast how do you
change using newest nvda forgot the keystrokes and where to find them
by hitting the key, don't remember which key.