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Re: how to use bluetooth

Gene
 

I said nothing about your intent nor did I assume what it is.  I'm saying that if you say something like this list is for NVDA, you are saying or implying that the message is off topic and not appropriate for the list.  That is in conflict with the long practice of the list, which is to allow some off topic content. 
 
I have no reason to question your motivation.  And I don't think you intended to send moderation-like messages to the list.  But the question is how the messages appear, not of your intent.  I hope that you will consider these points and not view it as a contest where some people disagree and others agree in support of you.  I'm asking you to consider what I am saying and see if you understand and agree with it. 
 
If you send messages that appear to be moderation messages, then regardless of your intentions, the messages will be interpreted as moderation messages.  I hope you now understand why. 
 
Gene
 

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

Hi, Anthony,


Thanks for backing me up. Yes, all I was trying to do was give helpful
advice--not play the part of a moderator. I won't say anything more.


Rosemarie


On 5/24/2018 11:52 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> To be fair to Rosemarie, she did not say that this message was not appropriate
> for this list.  She said that the question might be more appropriate for
> another list.
>
> For me, that's the difference between saying "you should not ask that here" and
> "you might get better responses if you ask over there".
>
> One is playing moderator; the other is simply giving helpful advice.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Thursday 24 May 2018 at 18:56:13, Gene wrote:
>
>> Please stop telling people what messages are appropriate.  the list allows
>> a certain amount of off topic traffic and has since I've been a member for
>> years.  List owners and moderators on lists in general don't want members
>> who aren't moderators, sending moderation messages to the list.  It isn't
>> specific to this list, but a general expectation.  If you want to suggest
>> that the person might get better answers on another list, that's one
>> thing.  But discussing appropriateness of messages and saying that the
>> list is about NVDA is moderating.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: 24 May 2018 18:23
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth
>>
>> Hi, Anthony,
>>
>>
>> This question would be more appropriate for a list like the windows 10
>> list. This list is for NVDA.
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>>
>> On 5/24/2018 7:12 AM, anthony borg wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>> Can somebody please explain to me how to transfer an mp3 from a laptop to
>>> a mobile phone via bluetooth?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Anthony




Re: how to use bluetooth

Gene
 

it isn't a rule, but my understanding of how people may understand such comments and how they conflict with long practice on the list of allowing some off topic content.  Of course, if the list owner disagrees, he is the final word.
 
Gene
----- original message -----

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

Thanks for clarifying the rules.  I had not previously realised that telling
someone that "this list is for NVDA" was a potential problem.  I hope everyone
here can learn a lesson from this.


Antony.

On Thursday 24 May 2018 at 21:17:52, Gene wrote:

> After she said that the message would be more appropriate for another list,
> she said, this list is for NVDA.  This is the second such message she sent
> in the last day, the other regarding a Braille display.  In both, she
> said, this list is for NVDA,  That is moderation.  the list allows a
> certain amount of off topic discussion.  I wouldn't have raised the matter
> at all if there had been only one such message, nor would I have raised it
> if the messages had just said something like, you may get better answers
> on a different list or this question would be better asked on a Windows 10
> list or something of the sort.  But they went further.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Antony Stone
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:52 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth
>
>
> To be fair to Rosemarie, she did not say that this message was not
> appropriate for this list.  She said that the question might be more
> appropriate for another list.
>
> For me, that's the difference between saying "you should not ask that here"
> and "you might get better responses if you ask over there".
>
> One is playing moderator; the other is simply giving helpful advice.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Thursday 24 May 2018 at 18:56:13, Gene wrote:
> > Please stop telling people what messages are appropriate.  the list
> > allows a certain amount of off topic traffic and has since I've been a
> > member for years.  List owners and moderators on lists in general don't
> > want members who aren't moderators, sending moderation messages to the
> > list.  It isn't specific to this list, but a general expectation.  If
> > you want to suggest that the person might get better answers on another
> > list, that's one thing.  But discussing appropriateness of messages and
> > saying that the list is about NVDA is moderating.
> >
> > Gene
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> > Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: 24 May 2018 18:23
> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth
> >
> > Hi, Anthony,
> >
> >
> > This question would be more appropriate for a list like the windows 10
> > list. This list is for NVDA.
> >
> >
> > Rosemarie
> >
> > On 5/24/2018 7:12 AM, anthony borg wrote:
> > > Hi folks
> > > Can somebody please explain to me how to transfer an mp3 from a laptop
> > > to a mobile phone via bluetooth?
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Anthony

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Re: open parent document?

Ann Byrne
 

At 06:57 AM 5/24/2018, you wrote:
On Thursday 24 May 2018 at 13:54:50, Ann Byrne wrote:

A link to a probably .pdf says only "Open parent document
button". Pressing enter on the button does nothing. How doI open
this thing????
Is this on a web page, and if so, please can you tell us the URL of that page
so we can see it for ourselves?

If it's not on a web page, where have you found this link?


Antony.

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Re: how to use bluetooth

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Anthony,


Thanks for backing me up. Yes, all I was trying to do was give helpful advice--not play the part of a moderator. I won't say anything more.


Rosemarie

On 5/24/2018 11:52 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
To be fair to Rosemarie, she did not say that this message was not appropriate
for this list. She said that the question might be more appropriate for
another list.

For me, that's the difference between saying "you should not ask that here" and
"you might get better responses if you ask over there".

One is playing moderator; the other is simply giving helpful advice.


Antony.

On Thursday 24 May 2018 at 18:56:13, Gene wrote:

Please stop telling people what messages are appropriate. the list allows
a certain amount of off topic traffic and has since I've been a member for
years. List owners and moderators on lists in general don't want members
who aren't moderators, sending moderation messages to the list. It isn't
specific to this list, but a general expectation. If you want to suggest
that the person might get better answers on another list, that's one
thing. But discussing appropriateness of messages and saying that the
list is about NVDA is moderating.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: 24 May 2018 18:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

Hi, Anthony,


This question would be more appropriate for a list like the windows 10
list. This list is for NVDA.


Rosemarie

On 5/24/2018 7:12 AM, anthony borg wrote:
Hi folks
Can somebody please explain to me how to transfer an mp3 from a laptop to
a mobile phone via bluetooth?
Thanks in advance
Anthony


Pleasant Surprise (Google-news page+NVDA+Firefox+Win7)

Laurie Mehta
 

Hi all,

I enjoy reading news via Google's news page news dot google dot com.
But for a while now that page had been changed to appear less accessibly in Firefox. I shared my feedback with Google and they promised an update was coming. Well it apparently has!

I have Windows 7 on this laptop and Firefox 59.02, and am using NVDA 18.1.

The page that loaded when I typed news.google.com is laid out very nicely with headings marking all section titles and links placed on each story and news source listed under each heading. The placement of a link saying more (with section title following) might be better placed under the list of news stories (in my opinion) but it is also fine as it is.
I wanted to share with you NVDA users in case you, like me, had switched to Chrome for viewing the news page back when the less accessible news page launched. It's nice to know that we can use either Firefox or Chrome for Google's news page, and that Google fixed the problem.

Here is the url copied from my viewing, since others' preferences might display something else:

https://news.google.com/?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en

-LM


Re: how to use bluetooth

Antony Stone
 

Thanks for clarifying the rules. I had not previously realised that telling
someone that "this list is for NVDA" was a potential problem. I hope everyone
here can learn a lesson from this.


Antony.

On Thursday 24 May 2018 at 21:17:52, Gene wrote:

After she said that the message would be more appropriate for another list,
she said, this list is for NVDA. This is the second such message she sent
in the last day, the other regarding a Braille display. In both, she
said, this list is for NVDA, That is moderation. the list allows a
certain amount of off topic discussion. I wouldn't have raised the matter
at all if there had been only one such message, nor would I have raised it
if the messages had just said something like, you may get better answers
on a different list or this question would be better asked on a Windows 10
list or something of the sort. But they went further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Antony Stone
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth


To be fair to Rosemarie, she did not say that this message was not
appropriate for this list. She said that the question might be more
appropriate for another list.

For me, that's the difference between saying "you should not ask that here"
and "you might get better responses if you ask over there".

One is playing moderator; the other is simply giving helpful advice.


Antony.

On Thursday 24 May 2018 at 18:56:13, Gene wrote:
Please stop telling people what messages are appropriate. the list
allows a certain amount of off topic traffic and has since I've been a
member for years. List owners and moderators on lists in general don't
want members who aren't moderators, sending moderation messages to the
list. It isn't specific to this list, but a general expectation. If
you want to suggest that the person might get better answers on another
list, that's one thing. But discussing appropriateness of messages and
saying that the list is about NVDA is moderating.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: 24 May 2018 18:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

Hi, Anthony,


This question would be more appropriate for a list like the windows 10
list. This list is for NVDA.


Rosemarie

On 5/24/2018 7:12 AM, anthony borg wrote:
Hi folks
Can somebody please explain to me how to transfer an mp3 from a laptop
to a mobile phone via bluetooth?
Thanks in advance
Anthony
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Re: how to use bluetooth

Gene
 

I am doing my job.  Are you aware that I am the moderator?  If you have complaints about how I rung the list, and I almost never do anything, because the list almost runs itself, please address messages commenting on the matter to the owner's address at the bottom of each message.  Both the owner and I will see the messages and one or both of us will respond.
 
If you can document some sort of pattern of criticizing almost every message on the list, I would be interested and the owner would be as well.  I try to promote a relaxed, helpful atmosphere and if you believe I am not managing the list well, you have every right to complain.  However, I think you'll have a problem documenting your claim. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

Well if you did your job properly , instead of criticising everyone’s response to every reply on every topic on this list, then this wouldn’t be a issue

 

But I guess cant help yourself 😃

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 24 May 2018 17:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

 

Please stop telling people what messages are appropriate.  the list allows a certain amount of off topic traffic and has since I've been a member for years.  List owners and moderators on lists in general don't want members who aren't moderators, sending moderation messages to the list.  It isn't specific to this list, but a general expectation.  If you want to suggest that the person might get better answers on another list, that's one thing.  But discussing appropriateness of messages and saying that the list is about NVDA is moderating. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 24 May 2018 18:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

Hi, Anthony,


This question would be more appropriate for a list like the windows 10 list. This list is for NVDA.


Rosemarie




On 5/24/2018 7:12 AM, anthony borg wrote:
> Hi folks
> Can somebody please explain to me how to transfer an mp3 from a laptop to a
> mobile phone via bluetooth?
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
>
>
>
>






 


Re: how to use bluetooth

Gene
 

After she said that the message would be more appropriate for another list, she said, this list is for NVDA.  This is the second such message she sent in the last day, the other regarding a Braille display.  In both, she said, this list is for NVDA,  That is moderation.  the list allows a certain amount of off topic discussion.  I wouldn't have raised the matter at all if there had been only one such message, nor would I have raised it if the messages had just said something like, you may get better answers on a different list or this question would be better asked on a Windows 10 list or something of the sort.  But they went further.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

To be fair to Rosemarie, she did not say that this message was not appropriate
for this list.  She said that the question might be more appropriate for
another list.

For me, that's the difference between saying "you should not ask that here" and
"you might get better responses if you ask over there".

One is playing moderator; the other is simply giving helpful advice.


Antony.

On Thursday 24 May 2018 at 18:56:13, Gene wrote:

> Please stop telling people what messages are appropriate.  the list allows
> a certain amount of off topic traffic and has since I've been a member for
> years.  List owners and moderators on lists in general don't want members
> who aren't moderators, sending moderation messages to the list.  It isn't
> specific to this list, but a general expectation.  If you want to suggest
> that the person might get better answers on another list, that's one
> thing.  But discussing appropriateness of messages and saying that the
> list is about NVDA is moderating.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: 24 May 2018 18:23
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth
>
> Hi, Anthony,
>
>
> This question would be more appropriate for a list like the windows 10
> list. This list is for NVDA.
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
> On 5/24/2018 7:12 AM, anthony borg wrote:
> > Hi folks
> > Can somebody please explain to me how to transfer an mp3 from a laptop to
> > a mobile phone via bluetooth?
> > Thanks in advance
> > Anthony

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Re: how to use bluetooth

Chris
 

Well if you did your job properly , instead of criticising everyone’s response to every reply on every topic on this list, then this wouldn’t be a issue

 

But I guess cant help yourself 😃

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 24 May 2018 17:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

 

Please stop telling people what messages are appropriate.  the list allows a certain amount of off topic traffic and has since I've been a member for years.  List owners and moderators on lists in general don't want members who aren't moderators, sending moderation messages to the list.  It isn't specific to this list, but a general expectation.  If you want to suggest that the person might get better answers on another list, that's one thing.  But discussing appropriateness of messages and saying that the list is about NVDA is moderating. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 24 May 2018 18:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

Hi, Anthony,


This question would be more appropriate for a list like the windows 10 list. This list is for NVDA.


Rosemarie




On 5/24/2018 7:12 AM, anthony borg wrote:
> Hi folks
> Can somebody please explain to me how to transfer an mp3 from a laptop to a
> mobile phone via bluetooth?
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
>
>
>
>






 


Re: how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not announce punctuation?

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Try to add the following lines to your Symbols.ini:

، none never # ،
؛ none never # ؛

Rui Fontes



Às 19:13 de 24/05/2018, zahra escreveu:

hello jonathan.
yes, my problem is for two punctuations in farsi and does not affect
latin documents.
as i dont know there spelling in english, i just type the punctuation hear.
،؛
On 5/24/18, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@...> wrote:
Hello,

I know very little about the Arabic or Farsi languages. I assume the
punctuation you are looking at is not Latin based? Even so, I believe the
UNICODE standard (which is not always used by Windows systems), defines
which codes should be punctuation for the alphabet being encoded. Also,
sometimes the same symbol can have different ways to be represented in
Unicode since even though the graphic looks the same there are different
meanings for the symbol. A good example of this is that the dash and the
minus sign in Latin alphabets usually look identical, but there is a
different UNICODE representation. Another place this happens is accented
characters, where often these can be represented as two characters in one
location or as one character.

In any case, it would be good to try and provide the details of the issues
to NVDA developers so that all folks using the symbols you are having issues
with can have the problems resolved. Also, in at least Latin based
languages, some punctuation has significantly different interpretation when
in the middle of a word or number and NVDA can support these
differentiations.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan


On 5/24/18, 12:10 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of zahra"
<nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:

is there any solution for changing voice dictionary according to my
need?

On 5/24/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> That is all I know about that possible solution.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: zahra
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 7:04 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to
espeak not
> announce punctuation?
>
>
> hi quentin.
> i tried your method and unfortunately did not change the problem for
me.
> hi gene.
> adding space for replacement in voice dictionary sometimes resolves
> the problem and in some cases and sentences the issue is
unfortunately
> persist.
> what should i do to never hear any punctuation specially in sayAll
and
> its better if its be possible when navigating line by line?
> thanks extremely for your help, God bless you all!
>
> On 5/24/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> You would type a space in the replacement field. This will probably
>> work.
>>
>>
>> Gene
>> Gene
>>
>>
>> From: zahra
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:10 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to
espeak
>> not
>> announce punctuation?
>>
>>
>> as i said before,
>> i use nvda 2016.4 forever.
>> but it does not matter, i have this issue since nvda 2016.2 (which
>> changed to espeak ng).
>> i know that i should find speech dictionaries and find voice
dictionary.
>> then press enter on add button and in the pattern type my
punctuation
>> which i dont want to hear in sayAll,
>> then what exactly should i type in replacement that nvda never does
>> not announce this punctuation at all when using sayAll and i hear it
>> only when i need editing documents by navigating letter by letter?
>>
>> On 5/24/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>> <bglists@...> wrote:
>>> Which version of nvda do you have at the moment. Obviously this
could be
>>> a
>>> Persian only issue, but I have occasionally noticed that in order to
say
>>> every punctuation entry some need to be altered in the punctuation
list
>>> to
>>>
>>> always, in more than one place.
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>> in the display name field.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>>> To: "nvda" <nvda@groups.io>; "Mary Otten" <motten53@...>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:53 PM
>>> Subject: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak
not
>>> announce punctuation?
>>>
>>>
>>>> hello every one.
>>>> when espeak became espeak ng, it had many improvements and
goodnesses
>>>> for persian users.
>>>> but it faced some problems as well.
>>>> espeak sometimes announce some punctuations like kama in persian
and
>>>> one other more that i dont know there spelling in english.
>>>> i set punctuation none, but sometimes espeak does not respect my
>>>> choice and announce some punctuation.
>>>> hearing punctuations is very annoying for me and i dont want to
nvda
>>>> announces them unless when navigating letter by letter.
>>>> but the problem occures even in sayAll, that i dont need editing
and i
>>>> only want to study books and articles.
>>>> i sincerely appreciate your help and pray for you, God bless you
all!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> By God,
>>>> were I given all the seven heavens
>>>> with all they contain
>>>> in order that
>>>> I may disobey God
>>>> by depriving an ant
>>>> from the husk of a grain of barley,
>>>> I would not do it.
>>>> imam ali
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> By God,
>> were I given all the seven heavens
>> with all they contain
>> in order that
>> I may disobey God
>> by depriving an ant
>> from the husk of a grain of barley,
>> I would not do it.
>> imam ali
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> By God,
> were I given all the seven heavens
> with all they contain
> in order that
> I may disobey God
> by depriving an ant
> from the husk of a grain of barley,
> I would not do it.
> imam ali
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali









Re: how to use bluetooth

Antony Stone
 

To be fair to Rosemarie, she did not say that this message was not appropriate
for this list. She said that the question might be more appropriate for
another list.

For me, that's the difference between saying "you should not ask that here" and
"you might get better responses if you ask over there".

One is playing moderator; the other is simply giving helpful advice.


Antony.

On Thursday 24 May 2018 at 18:56:13, Gene wrote:

Please stop telling people what messages are appropriate. the list allows
a certain amount of off topic traffic and has since I've been a member for
years. List owners and moderators on lists in general don't want members
who aren't moderators, sending moderation messages to the list. It isn't
specific to this list, but a general expectation. If you want to suggest
that the person might get better answers on another list, that's one
thing. But discussing appropriateness of messages and saying that the
list is about NVDA is moderating.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: 24 May 2018 18:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

Hi, Anthony,


This question would be more appropriate for a list like the windows 10
list. This list is for NVDA.


Rosemarie

On 5/24/2018 7:12 AM, anthony borg wrote:
Hi folks
Can somebody please explain to me how to transfer an mp3 from a laptop to
a mobile phone via bluetooth?
Thanks in advance
Anthony
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Re: how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not announce punctuation?

Gene
 

To be sure the punctuation matches what you are trying to do, try selecting and copying it to the clipboard when you see it in a document.  Then try pasting it into the speech dictionary.  While there may be another reason you are being unsuccessful, my guess is that the problem is that what you are typing is different from what is in the document in some way.  This procedure should eliminate any possible difference.  Try copying and pasting instead of typing for the punctuation marks you are unsuccessul with.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not announce punctuation?

hello jonathan.
yes, my problem is for two punctuations in farsi and does not affect
latin documents.
as i dont know there spelling in english, i just type the punctuation hear.
،؛

On 5/24/18, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I know very little about the Arabic or Farsi languages. I assume the
> punctuation you are looking at is not Latin based? Even so, I believe the
> UNICODE standard (which is not always used by Windows systems), defines
> which codes should be punctuation for the alphabet being encoded. Also,
> sometimes the same symbol can have different ways to be represented in
> Unicode since even though the graphic looks the same there are different
> meanings for the symbol. A good example of this is that the dash and the
> minus sign in Latin alphabets usually look identical, but there is a
> different UNICODE representation. Another place this happens is accented
> characters, where often these can be represented as two characters in one
> location or as one character.
>
> In any case, it would be good to try and provide the details of the issues
> to NVDA developers so that all folks using the symbols you are having issues
> with can have the problems resolved. Also, in at least Latin based
> languages, some punctuation has significantly different interpretation when
> in the middle of a word or number and NVDA can support these
> differentiations.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On 5/24/18, 12:10 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of zahra"
> <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
>
>     is there any solution for changing voice dictionary according to my
> need?
>
>     On 5/24/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>     > That is all I know about that possible solution.
>     >
>     > Gene
>     > ----- Original Message -----
>     >
>     > From: zahra
>     > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 7:04 AM
>     > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>     > Subject: Re: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to
> espeak not
>     > announce punctuation?
>     >
>     >
>     > hi quentin.
>     > i tried your method and unfortunately did not change the problem for
> me.
>     > hi gene.
>     > adding space for replacement in voice dictionary sometimes resolves
>     > the problem and in some cases and sentences the issue is
> unfortunately
>     > persist.
>     > what should i do to never hear any punctuation specially in sayAll
> and
>     > its better if its be possible when navigating line by line?
>     > thanks extremely for your help, God bless you all!
>     >
>     > On 5/24/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>     >> You would type a space in the replacement field.  This will probably
>     >> work.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Gene
>     >> Gene
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> From: zahra
>     >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:10 AM
>     >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>     >> Subject: Re: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to
> espeak
>     >> not
>     >> announce punctuation?
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> as i said before,
>     >> i use nvda 2016.4 forever.
>     >> but it does not matter, i have this issue since nvda 2016.2 (which
>     >> changed to espeak ng).
>     >> i know that i should find speech dictionaries and find voice
> dictionary.
>     >> then press enter on add button and in the pattern type my
> punctuation
>     >> which i dont want to hear in sayAll,
>     >> then what exactly should i type in replacement that nvda never does
>     >> not announce this punctuation at all when using sayAll and i hear it
>     >> only when i need editing documents by navigating letter by letter?
>     >>
>     >> On 5/24/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>     >> <bglists@...> wrote:
>     >>> Which version of nvda do you have at the moment. Obviously this
> could be
>     >>> a
>     >>> Persian only issue, but I have occasionally noticed that in order to
> say
>     >>> every punctuation entry some need to be altered in the  punctuation
> list
>     >>> to
>     >>>
>     >>> always, in more than one place.
>     >>>  Brian
>     >>>
>     >>> bglists@...
>     >>> Sent via blueyonder.
>     >>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>     >>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>     >>> in the display name field.
>     >>> ----- Original Message -----
>     >>> From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>     >>> To: "nvda" <nvda@groups.io>; "Mary Otten" <motten53@...>
>     >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:53 PM
>     >>> Subject: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak
> not
>     >>> announce punctuation?
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>> hello every one.
>     >>>> when espeak became espeak ng, it had many improvements and
> goodnesses
>     >>>> for persian users.
>     >>>> but it faced some problems as well.
>     >>>> espeak sometimes  announce some punctuations like kama in persian
> and
>     >>>> one other more that i dont know there spelling in english.
>     >>>> i set punctuation none, but sometimes espeak does not respect my
>     >>>> choice and announce some punctuation.
>     >>>> hearing punctuations is very annoying for me and i dont want to
> nvda
>     >>>> announces them unless when navigating letter by letter.
>     >>>> but the problem occures even in sayAll, that i dont need editing
> and i
>     >>>> only want to study books and articles.
>     >>>> i sincerely appreciate your help and pray for you, God bless you
> all!
>     >>>>
>     >>>> --
>     >>>> By God,
>     >>>> were I given all the seven heavens
>     >>>> with all they contain
>     >>>> in order that
>     >>>> I may disobey God
>     >>>> by depriving an ant
>     >>>> from the husk of a grain of barley,
>     >>>> I would not do it.
>     >>>> imam ali
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >> By God,
>     >> were I given all the seven heavens
>     >> with all they contain
>     >> in order that
>     >> I may disobey God
>     >> by depriving an ant
>     >> from the husk of a grain of barley,
>     >> I would not do it.
>     >> imam ali
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>     > By God,
>     > were I given all the seven heavens
>     > with all they contain
>     > in order that
>     > I may disobey God
>     > by depriving an ant
>     > from the husk of a grain of barley,
>     > I would not do it.
>     > imam ali
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>
>     --
>     By God,
>     were I given all the seven heavens
>     with all they contain
>     in order that
>     I may disobey God
>     by depriving an ant
>     from the husk of a grain of barley,
>     I would not do it.
>     imam ali
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali




Re: how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not announce punctuation?

 

hello jonathan.
yes, my problem is for two punctuations in farsi and does not affect
latin documents.
as i dont know there spelling in english, i just type the punctuation hear.
،؛

On 5/24/18, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@...> wrote:
Hello,

I know very little about the Arabic or Farsi languages. I assume the
punctuation you are looking at is not Latin based? Even so, I believe the
UNICODE standard (which is not always used by Windows systems), defines
which codes should be punctuation for the alphabet being encoded. Also,
sometimes the same symbol can have different ways to be represented in
Unicode since even though the graphic looks the same there are different
meanings for the symbol. A good example of this is that the dash and the
minus sign in Latin alphabets usually look identical, but there is a
different UNICODE representation. Another place this happens is accented
characters, where often these can be represented as two characters in one
location or as one character.

In any case, it would be good to try and provide the details of the issues
to NVDA developers so that all folks using the symbols you are having issues
with can have the problems resolved. Also, in at least Latin based
languages, some punctuation has significantly different interpretation when
in the middle of a word or number and NVDA can support these
differentiations.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan


On 5/24/18, 12:10 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of zahra"
<nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:

is there any solution for changing voice dictionary according to my
need?

On 5/24/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> That is all I know about that possible solution.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: zahra
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 7:04 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to
espeak not
> announce punctuation?
>
>
> hi quentin.
> i tried your method and unfortunately did not change the problem for
me.
> hi gene.
> adding space for replacement in voice dictionary sometimes resolves
> the problem and in some cases and sentences the issue is
unfortunately
> persist.
> what should i do to never hear any punctuation specially in sayAll
and
> its better if its be possible when navigating line by line?
> thanks extremely for your help, God bless you all!
>
> On 5/24/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> You would type a space in the replacement field. This will probably
>> work.
>>
>>
>> Gene
>> Gene
>>
>>
>> From: zahra
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:10 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to
espeak
>> not
>> announce punctuation?
>>
>>
>> as i said before,
>> i use nvda 2016.4 forever.
>> but it does not matter, i have this issue since nvda 2016.2 (which
>> changed to espeak ng).
>> i know that i should find speech dictionaries and find voice
dictionary.
>> then press enter on add button and in the pattern type my
punctuation
>> which i dont want to hear in sayAll,
>> then what exactly should i type in replacement that nvda never does
>> not announce this punctuation at all when using sayAll and i hear it
>> only when i need editing documents by navigating letter by letter?
>>
>> On 5/24/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>> <bglists@...> wrote:
>>> Which version of nvda do you have at the moment. Obviously this
could be
>>> a
>>> Persian only issue, but I have occasionally noticed that in order to
say
>>> every punctuation entry some need to be altered in the punctuation
list
>>> to
>>>
>>> always, in more than one place.
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>> in the display name field.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>>> To: "nvda" <nvda@groups.io>; "Mary Otten" <motten53@...>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:53 PM
>>> Subject: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak
not
>>> announce punctuation?
>>>
>>>
>>>> hello every one.
>>>> when espeak became espeak ng, it had many improvements and
goodnesses
>>>> for persian users.
>>>> but it faced some problems as well.
>>>> espeak sometimes announce some punctuations like kama in persian
and
>>>> one other more that i dont know there spelling in english.
>>>> i set punctuation none, but sometimes espeak does not respect my
>>>> choice and announce some punctuation.
>>>> hearing punctuations is very annoying for me and i dont want to
nvda
>>>> announces them unless when navigating letter by letter.
>>>> but the problem occures even in sayAll, that i dont need editing
and i
>>>> only want to study books and articles.
>>>> i sincerely appreciate your help and pray for you, God bless you
all!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> By God,
>>>> were I given all the seven heavens
>>>> with all they contain
>>>> in order that
>>>> I may disobey God
>>>> by depriving an ant
>>>> from the husk of a grain of barley,
>>>> I would not do it.
>>>> imam ali
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> By God,
>> were I given all the seven heavens
>> with all they contain
>> in order that
>> I may disobey God
>> by depriving an ant
>> from the husk of a grain of barley,
>> I would not do it.
>> imam ali
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> By God,
> were I given all the seven heavens
> with all they contain
> in order that
> I may disobey God
> by depriving an ant
> from the husk of a grain of barley,
> I would not do it.
> imam ali
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali








--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not announce punctuation?

Jonathan COHN
 

Hello,

I know very little about the Arabic or Farsi languages. I assume the punctuation you are looking at is not Latin based? Even so, I believe the UNICODE standard (which is not always used by Windows systems), defines which codes should be punctuation for the alphabet being encoded. Also, sometimes the same symbol can have different ways to be represented in Unicode since even though the graphic looks the same there are different meanings for the symbol. A good example of this is that the dash and the minus sign in Latin alphabets usually look identical, but there is a different UNICODE representation. Another place this happens is accented characters, where often these can be represented as two characters in one location or as one character.

In any case, it would be good to try and provide the details of the issues to NVDA developers so that all folks using the symbols you are having issues with can have the problems resolved. Also, in at least Latin based languages, some punctuation has significantly different interpretation when in the middle of a word or number and NVDA can support these differentiations.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan


On 5/24/18, 12:10 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of zahra" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:

is there any solution for changing voice dictionary according to my need?

On 5/24/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> That is all I know about that possible solution.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: zahra
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 7:04 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not
> announce punctuation?
>
>
> hi quentin.
> i tried your method and unfortunately did not change the problem for me.
> hi gene.
> adding space for replacement in voice dictionary sometimes resolves
> the problem and in some cases and sentences the issue is unfortunately
> persist.
> what should i do to never hear any punctuation specially in sayAll and
> its better if its be possible when navigating line by line?
> thanks extremely for your help, God bless you all!
>
> On 5/24/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> You would type a space in the replacement field. This will probably
>> work.
>>
>>
>> Gene
>> Gene
>>
>>
>> From: zahra
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:10 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak
>> not
>> announce punctuation?
>>
>>
>> as i said before,
>> i use nvda 2016.4 forever.
>> but it does not matter, i have this issue since nvda 2016.2 (which
>> changed to espeak ng).
>> i know that i should find speech dictionaries and find voice dictionary.
>> then press enter on add button and in the pattern type my punctuation
>> which i dont want to hear in sayAll,
>> then what exactly should i type in replacement that nvda never does
>> not announce this punctuation at all when using sayAll and i hear it
>> only when i need editing documents by navigating letter by letter?
>>
>> On 5/24/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>> <bglists@...> wrote:
>>> Which version of nvda do you have at the moment. Obviously this could be
>>> a
>>> Persian only issue, but I have occasionally noticed that in order to say
>>> every punctuation entry some need to be altered in the punctuation list
>>> to
>>>
>>> always, in more than one place.
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>> in the display name field.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>>> To: "nvda" <nvda@groups.io>; "Mary Otten" <motten53@...>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:53 PM
>>> Subject: [nvda] how can i change voice dictionary in nvda to espeak not
>>> announce punctuation?
>>>
>>>
>>>> hello every one.
>>>> when espeak became espeak ng, it had many improvements and goodnesses
>>>> for persian users.
>>>> but it faced some problems as well.
>>>> espeak sometimes announce some punctuations like kama in persian and
>>>> one other more that i dont know there spelling in english.
>>>> i set punctuation none, but sometimes espeak does not respect my
>>>> choice and announce some punctuation.
>>>> hearing punctuations is very annoying for me and i dont want to nvda
>>>> announces them unless when navigating letter by letter.
>>>> but the problem occures even in sayAll, that i dont need editing and i
>>>> only want to study books and articles.
>>>> i sincerely appreciate your help and pray for you, God bless you all!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> By God,
>>>> were I given all the seven heavens
>>>> with all they contain
>>>> in order that
>>>> I may disobey God
>>>> by depriving an ant
>>>> from the husk of a grain of barley,
>>>> I would not do it.
>>>> imam ali
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> By God,
>> were I given all the seven heavens
>> with all they contain
>> in order that
>> I may disobey God
>> by depriving an ant
>> from the husk of a grain of barley,
>> I would not do it.
>> imam ali
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> By God,
> were I given all the seven heavens
> with all they contain
> in order that
> I may disobey God
> by depriving an ant
> from the husk of a grain of barley,
> I would not do it.
> imam ali
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: how to use bluetooth

Gene
 

Please stop telling people what messages are appropriate.  the list allows a certain amount of off topic traffic and has since I've been a member for years.  List owners and moderators on lists in general don't want members who aren't moderators, sending moderation messages to the list.  It isn't specific to this list, but a general expectation.  If you want to suggest that the person might get better answers on another list, that's one thing.  But discussing appropriateness of messages and saying that the list is about NVDA is moderating. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 24 May 2018 18:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

Hi, Anthony,


This question would be more appropriate for a list like the windows 10 list. This list is for NVDA.


Rosemarie




On 5/24/2018 7:12 AM, anthony borg wrote:
> Hi folks
> Can somebody please explain to me how to transfer an mp3 from a laptop to a
> mobile phone via bluetooth?
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
>
>
>
>








Re: how to use bluetooth

anthony borg
 

Ok thanks for your info.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: 24 May 2018 17:05
To: nvda list list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

This is off topic for this list. The list if you read the headers is to
discussed nvda not computers in general. I have a list for that although I'm
the only member for now, visit tffppodcast.com/groups for more info. There
you will find all the groups and sub groups that you can be a part of.

Take care and hope that helps a bit.

On May 24, 2018, at 7:12 AM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...>
wrote:

Hi folks
Can somebody please explain to me how to transfer an mp3 from a laptop
to a mobile phone via bluetooth?
Thanks in advance
Anthony




Re: Best Synthesizer

Gene
 

If discussion of the illegal add on continues, I'll lock the topic.  I don't want to do that, but this discussion isn't allowed on list.
 
I realize that some people may respond to messages about the Dectalk add on before they see my first message and if I block the topic, it won't be for punative reasons.  it will be to stop further improper discussion in the thread.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Casey
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best Synthesizer

Hi can you please pass along where to get this dektalk add on.

I found I page using google but it has two different versions on it so I would like to get the correct one.

So if you could provide that it would be A big help.




On 5/24/2018 8:12 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

Synthesizers are all very preferencial.  I really like the espeak american varients though that makes me a bit of an oddball.  If you only want english language support the dektalk access add-on is outrageously good.  Much better than the phonix distrobution and in my experience, it's extremely fast and stable.  Pronounciation is good.  Inflection is fine especially if you used dektalk a lot and liked it.  If not, inflection does some funny things that may take getting used to.

Anyhow, google it up and see if you like it.  I think it's on a third party add-on site.

Best,

Erik

On May 24, 2018 8:24:03 AM "Dr. J. michael jones" <j.michaeljones@...> wrote:

Thank you very much of course are use eloquence with jaws but I’m trying to put together an affordable machine for people in Africa NVDA the only way to go and I’m just trying to create a better speech output then what comes with a regular Windows platform.  I observe what you were saying about sluggishness also speed pitch and tone are affected as well again thanks


On May 24, 2018, at 3:11 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

There is wide disagreement of what the best is.  it's a matter of preference and taste.  it's like asking what is the best frozen pizza.  Do you like older synthesizers such as Eloquence or do you like newer ones, with more human sounding voices but slower responsiveness and, in my opinion, significantly degraded speech accuracy in most of them?  I don't recall the names of any of the newer ones because I dislike most of them and don't use them.  There are a lot of synthesizers you can try or get information about on the NVDA page devoted to this topic:
Also, on this page, the Eloquence add on that offers other voices as well is discussed.  There is a SAPI five Eloquence available for sale which is far superior, if you are interested in Eloquence.  Others can tell you more about it if you are interested.  And a lot of voices available for purchase have demos. 
 
I'll add that some people use a responsive voice for work, such as word processing and other tasks, but use one of the newer more natural voices for listening, such as when reading a book. 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best Synthesizer

Thanks I’m confused.   My question was what is the best? And I believe there is always a better maybe someone else has an opinion
> On May 24, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
>
> SAPI is not a speech engine.  It's a definition of a protocol enabling speech
> applications (synthesis or recognition) to interface to other applications
> (such as a browser).
>
> Some synthesisers can only communicate with other applications via SAPI, some
> can do SAPI plus other protocols, some don't do SAPI at all.
>
> As Gene said, whether a synthesiser communicates using SAPI says nothing at
> all about the quality of its voices.
>
> Also, to add another answer to the original question "what is the best
> sounding synthesizer that NVDA supports?", I would say it's the one you like
> best and get on with best.  That may not be the same as what someone else
> likes.  These things are a very personal choice.
>
>
> Antony.
>
>> On Thursday 24 May 2018 at 13:47:29, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
>>
>> Also, Sapi is a speech engine native to windows.  The beauty and
>> flexibility of NVDA is that it allows for installation of Non-windows
>> synthesizer voices.  Cheers!
>>
>>> On 5/24/2018 7:26 PM, Gene wrote:
>>> It should be pointed out that SAPI is a way that voices communicate
>>> with the computer.  it has nothing to do with the kind of voice in
>>> terms of its speech or general quality.  sometimes, a synthesizer may
>>> have a SAPI version and a version that isn't SAPI.  There is no reason
>>> to use or not to use a voice because it is SAPI.
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> *From:* Chris via Groups.Io <mailto:chrismedley@...>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:02 AM
>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Best Synthesizer
>>>
>>> There is nothing better than sapi voices
>>>
>>> Don’t waste your time or money on anything else. Have a nice day now 😃
>
> --
> The first fifty percent of an engineering project takes ninety percent of the
> time, and the remaining fifty percent takes another ninety percent of the time.
>
>                                                   Please reply to the list;
>                                                         please *don't* CC me.
>
>
>




-- 

Casey


Re: how to use bluetooth

anthony borg
 

Ok thanks rosemarie.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 24 May 2018 18:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to use bluetooth

Hi, Anthony,


This question would be more appropriate for a list like the windows 10 list. This list is for NVDA.


Rosemarie




On 5/24/2018 7:12 AM, anthony borg wrote:
Hi folks
Can somebody please explain to me how to transfer an mp3 from a laptop to a
mobile phone via bluetooth?
Thanks in advance
Anthony




Re: how to use bluetooth

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Anthony,


This question would be more appropriate for a list like the windows 10 list. This list is for NVDA.


Rosemarie

On 5/24/2018 7:12 AM, anthony borg wrote:
Hi folks
Can somebody please explain to me how to transfer an mp3 from a laptop to a
mobile phone via bluetooth?
Thanks in advance
Anthony



Re: HELLO THERE

 

Hi,

Which version of Skype are you referring to – the one that comes with Windows 10 or the new desktop version (8.x)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] HELLO THERE

 

Thank you. I did get the win10 app essentials addon. I believe the latest version of skype isn’t that accessible so is there an earlier version I can get? Windows 10 doesn’t come with skype preinstalled does it? I have business skype as I have my office 365 subscription but I’m not sure if I can use that for a normal skype account?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 24 May 2018 12:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] HELLO THERE

 

You can see all officially approved NVDA add ons on this page:

 

You may find and use unapproved add ons but they may not work properly or they may be malicious.  Those that are officially approved are reviewed by members of the NVDA community and are known to be safe and are expected to work properly. 

The page I sent a link for has a search field and, below the introductory text, are links to all officially approved add ons.  If you follow a link, you will get more information about the add on and a download link. 

there is a Winamp add on, but you may or not care about the extra functionality it provides.  I mentioned that one because you mentioned Winamp.  You may find add ons for other programs you mentioned, I never checked. 

 

Gene

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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 3:54 AM

Subject: [nvda] HELLO THERE

 

Hi there,

 

I’m a new nvda user. I’m liking it so far I’m really impressed with it.

 

I’m just wondering about any good addons that might be useful. What do people favour using? I use programmes like iTunes and winamp and skype. I haven’t yet downloaded skype onto my new machine as I’m told it’s not that accessible. Would like more information on this.