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NVDA w/VMware horizon

Guy Schlosser
 

Hi all, got some good news, and just wondering about NVDA with VMware Horizon. I recently landed a technical support job with a company called Transcom. I will be helping phone and Internet customers troubleshoot their issues with getting on line, phone troubles, virus removal’s, etc. The catch is, they use a system called VMware horizon that you log into, in order to access the customer portal. Does NVDA work in this kind of environment? The portal itself is web-based, using Google chrome. I know that NVDA will probably have to be installed in the virtual environment, but are there any other accessibility challenges that could arise? Thanks in advance for any help or insight. Have an awesome memorial day weekend, and stay safe if you’re going anywhere.

Thanks,

Guy


Re: sounds ?

Danni
 

I don't remember why I shut it down the first time but rebooted twice because NVDA was not reading my documents properly, I don't know how to explain other than to say it would read a line and then nothing even though I knew there was something there and I tried maximizing the document but it didn't fix the issue and I also noticed that it kept reading things in double and when I rebooted heard the sound it made when shutting down twice!
 
I'll check volume settings since I tried checking sounds in control panel and found nothing to fix!
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds ?

Do other sounds work?  I think the sound you are describing is one Windows sound, which isn't working.  This sounds to me like the kind of problem that should be solved by running a restore point.  If you don't have one, I'm not sure how you might solve the problem.  In future, please describe the problem in detail as you did in this message.  Based on your current description, most of my previous message appears not to apply.  This isn't that Windows sounds aren't working in general.  One Windows sound may not be and I addressed that in this message.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Danni
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds ?

NVDA is speaking fine now yesterday it kept double talking so shut it down for a couple hours since a reboot did no good but sounds lost are the ping it makes when am at the top or bottom of a document as well as the sound it makes if  try to do something it doesn't want me to do!
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds ?

Hi


Is there any sounds at all on the computer? or are you getting Window sounds but not having nvda speaking?


Gene nz



On 5/26/2018 6:00 AM, Danni wrote:
 
I had to reboot several times yesterday because NVDA was not reading documents and realized this morning that I lost my sounds where do I find them to turn them back  on?
 


Re: sounds ?

Danni
 


Thanks Brian I will definitely do that!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds ?

Danni,

         If it turns out that your Windows sound output has been muted, be certain to ask your computer guy if there is a key or key sequence on your keyboard you can hit to unmute it (or to try to unmute it).

         On my HP laptop, where I've turned off the "Quick Function Keys" feature so that I have access to the F keys "as God intended," the F6 key is the mute/unmute toggle.  F7 is decrease volume and F8 is increase volume.  All of these only serve those functions if I'm holding down the Fn key plus the previously noted key together.  What's nice is even if the sound is muted, if you attempt to either increase or decrease volume it will unmute the sound as part of that.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


Re: File explorer (maybe)

Ervin, Glenn
 

Another way to do that is to browse to a file, and press shift + applications, and then the letter A and the path will be in the clipboard.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 2:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] File explorer (maybe)

 

I am trying to get clear about what's being asked here.

If it's how to get the path to a file you can do a Cortana/Windows search for the file, then when it shows up in the results and you have focus on it hit the menu/applications key or SHIFT+F10 and select "Open File location" from the pop up menu.  You'll open file explorer for the folder in which that file is located, with focus on that file, and can get the full path, including the file name, using the Copy Path button in the Home tab [or just hit ALT+H,CP].  You can then paste this where you need it.  One word of warning, though, it encloses the entire path in quotation marks, an example of which is:

"C:\Users\Public\Documents\BriTechGuy\Toolbox\Carry_With_Programs\Search_Everything\Everything-1.4.1.877.x64-Setup.exe"

You may need to remove those.

If you're trying to find task scheduler using Quentin's windows search method is the fastest way directly to it.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


Re: Chatty infty and math with nvda

hbentley@...
 

HI Erik, 

I've used nvda and chattyinfty for math, but it won't help you that much without inftyreader.  You need to convert the documents to a format that chattyinfty can read, for it the latter to be of any use.  This is what InftyReader does, (very well).

The setup I use now is I convert the documents from the pdf with embedded text set inftyreader, and set the output to .xml, which can be opened by microsoft word.  You need to purchase MathType, and install it in Microsoft word, then download a free toolbar, in addition, called Central Access Toolbar, or CAT for short.., here's the link.. while you're there, download central access reader... Google Link to Central Access Toolbar, (I Couldn't Find it online anymore, but I'm sure its out there somewhere): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1utQC3vuq1GqgsRUJo6yfoZM_mVf44df0 and Central Access Reader:    
http://archive.org/download/CARSetup64/CAR_Setup_64.exe


CAT has to be installed in Microsoft Word, and what you do is recognize your pdf file with infty reader => export as .xml => open with MS Word=> click the "play" icon in the CAT toolbar under the "CAT" Tab, select "Recognized with InftyReader" from the drop down list on the right side of the screen, deselect "linearalize all equations", "unlinearize all equations", "highlight Equations", and "Convert OMML to Mathtype" - (we do the last step next, seperately), and hit the play button.  The plugin will transform your document into a well formatted version.

Next Hit the Mathtype Tab, (purchase here: https://store.wiris.com/en), click "convert equations" and make the following selections: 


Then wait for Mathtype to process your document, (much better to install Mathtype on a drive with as much space as possible, as it is kind of a memory hog).  

Wait for mathtype to finish converting, save document as .docx format, (you can do this before converting as well).

The open Central Access Reader, click the "plus" icon near the top left, and upload the .docx document you just saved... It will load to CAR and you can read it beautifully in this free application, much better than chattyinfty.

Let me know if you run into any trouble!!

Ben






On 25 May 2018 at 10:32, erik burggraaf <erik@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I would like to get a head start on next semester's math.  I have chatty infty and nvda.  Do I need any add-ons?  Is any one else using this setup who can give me some insider tips?

I haven't even got my computer set up.  It's a weekend project and I just haven't gotten around to it.

Thanks for any advice.

Best,

Erik








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Ben Humphries


Re: sounds ?

Gene
 

Do other sounds work?  I think the sound you are describing is one Windows sound, which isn't working.  This sounds to me like the kind of problem that should be solved by running a restore point.  If you don't have one, I'm not sure how you might solve the problem.  In future, please describe the problem in detail as you did in this message.  Based on your current description, most of my previous message appears not to apply.  This isn't that Windows sounds aren't working in general.  One Windows sound may not be and I addressed that in this message.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Danni
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds ?

NVDA is speaking fine now yesterday it kept double talking so shut it down for a couple hours since a reboot did no good but sounds lost are the ping it makes when am at the top or bottom of a document as well as the sound it makes if  try to do something it doesn't want me to do!
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds ?

Hi


Is there any sounds at all on the computer? or are you getting Window sounds but not having nvda speaking?


Gene nz



On 5/26/2018 6:00 AM, Danni wrote:
 
I had to reboot several times yesterday because NVDA was not reading documents and realized this morning that I lost my sounds where do I find them to turn them back  on?
 


Re: sounds ?

Gene
 

You said you had to reboot a number of times yesterday.  Why?  Did you have freezes?  If you suddenly lose Windows sounds, and everything else works properly, you can look in the volume control settings to see what the volume level is for those sounds and, if there is a mute check box, that it is unchecked.  But this may be a problem, if you had an improper shutdown, caused by something else like a registry proboem.  You may want to check the volume control settings first.  If they are correct, if you have a system restore point or a you run a registry backup program, running a backup or a system restore point from before the problem may well be the easiest solution.  if you don't have something like this available, you should.  It's very important.  You never know when it may save you a lot of work and annoyance.
 
Regarding volume control settings, the easiest thing to do is probably to hold the Windows key, type r then release both keys.  Type sndvol in the run dialog, and press enter.  When the volume control opens, tab around and see what you see for Windows sounds.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Danni
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds ?

The only question I can answer is windows 7! am guessing with those questions it's not nvda that had the sounds but my computer? if that's the case I'll ask my computer guy about it!
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds ?

What generation of Windows are you using.  It may be slightly different on Windows 7 than Windows 10, for instance.

Also, what is the make/model of your computer and did it come with function keys that were mapped to doing things like muting, increasing/decreasing volume, increasing/decreasing screen brightness, etc.  You may be able to exploit those, but you'd have to know which are which for your specific make/model.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


Re: sounds ?

Danni
 


Thanks Brian I will definitely do that!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds ?

Danni,

         If it turns out that your Windows sound output has been muted, be certain to ask your computer guy if there is a key or key sequence on your keyboard you can hit to unmute it (or to try to unmute it).

         On my HP laptop, where I've turned off the "Quick Function Keys" feature so that I have access to the F keys "as God intended," the F6 key is the mute/unmute toggle.  F7 is decrease volume and F8 is increase volume.  All of these only serve those functions if I'm holding down the Fn key plus the previously noted key together.  What's nice is even if the sound is muted, if you attempt to either increase or decrease volume it will unmute the sound as part of that.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


Re: sounds ?

 

Danni,

         If it turns out that your Windows sound output has been muted, be certain to ask your computer guy if there is a key or key sequence on your keyboard you can hit to unmute it (or to try to unmute it).

         On my HP laptop, where I've turned off the "Quick Function Keys" feature so that I have access to the F keys "as God intended," the F6 key is the mute/unmute toggle.  F7 is decrease volume and F8 is increase volume.  All of these only serve those functions if I'm holding down the Fn key plus the previously noted key together.  What's nice is even if the sound is muted, if you attempt to either increase or decrease volume it will unmute the sound as part of that.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


Re: sounds ?

Danni
 


I've not had this happen before so I have no clue if I have that specific key or not so I'll ask my computer guy about it or check my settings on the computer!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds ?

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:30 pm, Danni wrote:
am guessing with those questions it's not nvda that had the sounds but my computer?
That's the presumption I'm operating on, too.   I have a friend who's an avid NVDA user and who's accidentally muted her Windows sound output in the past.  Luckily the keyboard she has actually has a dedicated button for mute/unmute that toggles the sound on if its off and off if its on.

Many computers can do this via hitting the Fn key along with the correct F key across the top.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


Re: sounds ?

 

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:30 pm, Danni wrote:
am guessing with those questions it's not nvda that had the sounds but my computer?
That's the presumption I'm operating on, too.   I have a friend who's an avid NVDA user and who's accidentally muted her Windows sound output in the past.  Luckily the keyboard she has actually has a dedicated button for mute/unmute that toggles the sound on if its off and off if its on.

Many computers can do this via hitting the Fn key along with the correct F key across the top.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


Re: sounds ?

Danni
 

NVDA is speaking fine now yesterday it kept double talking so shut it down for a couple hours since a reboot did no good but sounds lost are the ping it makes when am at the top or bottom of a document as well as the sound it makes if  try to do something it doesn't want me to do!
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds ?

Hi


Is there any sounds at all on the computer? or are you getting Window sounds but not having nvda speaking?


Gene nz



On 5/26/2018 6:00 AM, Danni wrote:
 
I had to reboot several times yesterday because NVDA was not reading documents and realized this morning that I lost my sounds where do I find them to turn them back  on?
 


Re: File explorer (maybe)

 

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:20 am, slery wrote:
When I am in the windows menu and use the applications key that is not one of the options that comes up
My apologies, I misread in that it's the file location you're trying to find.

Are you using a standard account or an account with admin privileges?   I always use my account which has admin privileges, and if I'm on an item in a list of search results that is a file, and hit the menu/applications key or SHIFT+F10, the "Open file location" option is always there.  I'm speculating it might not be for a standard user.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


Re: sounds ?

Danni
 


The only question I can answer is windows 7! am guessing with those questions it's not nvda that had the sounds but my computer? if that's the case I'll ask my computer guy about it!
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sounds ?

What generation of Windows are you using.  It may be slightly different on Windows 7 than Windows 10, for instance.

Also, what is the make/model of your computer and did it come with function keys that were mapped to doing things like muting, increasing/decreasing volume, increasing/decreasing screen brightness, etc.  You may be able to exploit those, but you'd have to know which are which for your specific make/model.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


Re: File explorer (maybe)

 

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 10:20 am, slery wrote:
When I am in the windows menu and use the applications key that is not one of the options that comes up
That's not what he said to do.   You simply hit the Windows Key and immediately type in the two word phrase, "task scheduler."  The search results will have Task Scheduler, Desktop App as the first item unless you have done something very weird on your system and have something else named "task scheduler."  All you have to do after entering the search phrase is wait about half a second for the search to complete and hit Enter.  Task Manager then opens.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


Re: File explorer (maybe)

 

I am trying to get clear about what's being asked here.

If it's how to get the path to a file you can do a Cortana/Windows search for the file, then when it shows up in the results and you have focus on it hit the menu/applications key or SHIFT+F10 and select "Open File location" from the pop up menu.  You'll open file explorer for the folder in which that file is located, with focus on that file, and can get the full path, including the file name, using the Copy Path button in the Home tab [or just hit ALT+H,CP].  You can then paste this where you need it.  One word of warning, though, it encloses the entire path in quotation marks, an example of which is:

"C:\Users\Public\Documents\BriTechGuy\Toolbox\Carry_With_Programs\Search_Everything\Everything-1.4.1.877.x64-Setup.exe"

You may need to remove those.

If you're trying to find task scheduler using Quentin's windows search method is the fastest way directly to it.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


Re: sounds ?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Is there any sounds at all on the computer? or are you getting Window sounds but not having nvda speaking?


Gene nz



On 5/26/2018 6:00 AM, Danni wrote:
 
I had to reboot several times yesterday because NVDA was not reading documents and realized this morning that I lost my sounds where do I find them to turn them back  on?
 


Re: sounds ?

 

What generation of Windows are you using.  It may be slightly different on Windows 7 than Windows 10, for instance.

Also, what is the make/model of your computer and did it come with function keys that were mapped to doing things like muting, increasing/decreasing volume, increasing/decreasing screen brightness, etc.  You may be able to exploit those, but you'd have to know which are which for your specific make/model.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


sounds ?

Danni
 

 
I had to reboot several times yesterday because NVDA was not reading documents and realized this morning that I lost my sounds where do I find them to turn them back  on?
 


Re: File explorer (maybe)

slery <slerythema@...>
 


When I am in the windows menu and use the applications key that is not one of the options that comes up I only get pin to task bar and a couple of other Advanced options that is what I tried first and there was no way to get a file location I am running the latest Windows 10 with the April 2018 update. Cindy

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 2:46:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] File explorer (maybe)

 

If you press the windows key and then start typing "Task scheduler" it should come up. If you want to find out where it is, you can always press the applications / context menu key on the item instead of enter, and choose "Open file location" which will open it in File Explorer and you can check the address bar to see where it is.


Regards

Quentin.


On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, slery <slerythema@...> wrote:


Okay, I am trying to use task scheduler but I need to find the file path to start the program. I did a search for grover.exe (assuming this is what I need for a windows app) but it only came up with a file called grover.exe.temp.DMP.



Can someone help me? Do the new window apps (an app downloaded from the windows store) follow a typical structure such as using a *.exe file or should I be looking for something else?



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