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NVDACon Announcement - you are invited

Adriani Botez
 

Hello everyone!

NVDACon 2018 is approaching soon! Please join us on June 1st through the 3rd
for this conference for all users and developers of NVDA. We will talk about
many interesting things concerning NVDA. Please forward this to your
communities worldwide. We would very appreciate if you can promote NVDACon
with a symbolic invitation message through your countries, either in
facebook groups, google groups, maillists or on radio stations etc.

We have a lot of exciting presentations planned for all of you! There will
be a variety of topics and you'll be able to get some of your most pressing
questions answered. Our schedule will be up in the next two days as we get
our final times situated, check on
www.nvdacon.org
in a day or two!

You may also subscribe to our mailing list to be notified when our schedule
is live!
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We look forward to seeing you at this year's conference.
Sincerely,
The NVDACon planning committee!


Re: OCR Solution

Nika Tsiklauri
 

 hello! from my experience,  some gui apps start crashing whenever they see large files.  I also think that the commandline version would be wonderful. There is an issue though, there is no official support for the latest version of Tesseract OCR  on windows. based on my experience, previous versions have a terrible quality  of recognition.
 Best wishes, 
Nick.


Re: Setting Mouse Cursor to Play Follow the Leader with Review Cursor?

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

Sure will.


On 5/27/2018 11:47 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Kenny,

         Will you please report back with your findings with regard to whether the Focus Highlight add-on actually forces the behavior you're seeking?

         Inquiring minds, and all that . . .

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     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 



Re: OCR Solution

 

This question has also been asked on the Win10 for Screen Reader Users forum and similar answers shared there.

I'm now beginning to think, if large volumes of files are involved, that the tesseract command line version would be best with a script that just keeps looping through all the files in a given folder that have matching combinations of languages and running OCR on them.  Using a GUI interface with any significant numbers of files gets really tedious really quickly.

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Re: OCR Solution

Christo de Klerk
 

I have Abbyy FineReader and I think it would be perfect for Vlad's purposes if he feels he can afford it. I think its quality is of the very best and it converts image PDFs flawlessly. I often use it for that purpose.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2018/05/27 19:48, JM Casey wrote:
Abbyy Finereader is not too expensive (around $200 uS as I recall for home users) and will do this. I'm probably going to buy it soon, myself. All reports I have had suggest it is fairly accessible, with some caveats that can be worked around.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vlad Dragomir
Sent: May 27, 2018 1:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR Solution

Many thanks, I do appreciate your answer. Unfortunately, this won't work in my case, since the site only accepts files that do not exceed 64 MB.
But I do want to thank you for taking the time to get back to me.

Cheers,

Vlad.





Re: OCR Solution

Christo de Klerk
 

Hi Vlad

No, it is not Word. Office Lens is an alonestanding app, not part of the MS Office suite.

I am just not sure if you can feed it a PDF which seems to be your requirement. You can send image files to it, but not sure about PDF. But have a look at it.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2018/05/27 19:28, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
Thanks a lot Christo, I didn't know that Word could do that. I'll definitely try that!

Cheers,

Vlad.


Re: OCR Solution

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Abbyy Finereader is not too expensive (around $200 uS as I recall for home users) and will do this. I'm probably going to buy it soon, myself. All reports I have had suggest it is fairly accessible, with some caveats that can be worked around.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vlad Dragomir
Sent: May 27, 2018 1:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR Solution

Many thanks, I do appreciate your answer. Unfortunately, this won't work in my case, since the site only accepts files that do not exceed 64 MB.
But I do want to thank you for taking the time to get back to me.

Cheers,

Vlad.


Re: OCR Solution

Vlad Dragomir
 

Thanks, anything's worth trying for sure.

Kindest regards.

Vlad.


Re: OCR Solution

Vlad Dragomir
 

Thanks a lot Christo, I didn't know that Word could do that. I'll definitely try that!

Cheers,

Vlad.


Re: OCR Solution

Antony Stone
 

Given that robobraille.org's OCR system is based on Tesseract, you might be
able to get good enough results simply by running Tesseract on your own
machine.

There are two versions available for Windows which can be downloaded from
https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tesseract/wiki/Downloads

I'm not recommending it, I have no idea how accessible it is, and I haven't
used it myself, but I would think it's worth a try to see if it does what you
need - otherwise just uninstall and carry on looking elsewhere...


Antony.

On Sunday 27 May 2018 at 19:13:51, Vlad Dragomir wrote:

Many thanks, I do appreciate your answer. Unfortunately, this won't work
in my case, since the site only accepts files that do not exceed 64 MB.
But I do want to thank you for taking the time to get back to me.

Cheers,

Vlad.
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Re: OCR Solution

Christo de Klerk
 

Hello Vlad

I bought the KNFB Reader app, but I am rather disappointed with it. It does not at all retain any semblance of formatting. It throws all the text into one ginormous paragraph. I don't think this is what you want.

Maybe you can look at the Office Lens app which is free and available for Windows 10 as well as for smart phones. It retains formatting. It supports language switching and if you are using a synthesiser which also supports language switching, different languages will be spoken correctly. The OCR quality is quite good. Even though it is free, it is better in my opinion than KNFB in every respect except for one: KNFB does the OCR on your local machine or mobile device, while Office Lens does it in the cloud. But I don't think this advantage KNFB has justifies the price. Give Office Lens a bash and see if it will work for you. It really is the best option that I am aware of.

If you can use a mobile device for your OCR, you could also try Prizmo Go which is also free and retains formatting. I am quite impressed with it.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2018/05/27 18:44, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
Dear all,

I need to find a way to transform image pdf files into text. These are mostly books that have been scanned a while ago, but I haven't had the time and patience to find a solution. Now I really need to do something about this, for professional reasons.

I found this Windows 10 app called KNFB Reader, which seems to do exactly that. However, since this is a rather expensive app, I'd like to ask those who have already used it a few things if I may:
1. How does this app deal with multi-lingual documents? Is it possible to choose two or more recognission languages for the same book? Most of my books are manuals. I am a language teacher and it is very important that both languages used in a book be accurately detected.
2. Is formatting being retained, at least in part?
3. Are there any alternatives to this application? It seems to be the only accessible solution, but I might be wrong.

I would be very grateful if anyone could help me with this.

Most sincerely,

Vlad


Re: OCR Solution

Vlad Dragomir
 

Many thanks, I do appreciate your answer. Unfortunately, this won't work in my case, since the site only accepts files that do not exceed 64 MB. But I do want to thank you for taking the time to get back to me.

Cheers,

Vlad.


Access Greece.

 

I may be sharing something everybody knows about, but NV Access made a page for scripts, to improve accessibility of websites like Trello and slack and telegram. It appears the last update was 2017 though, but if anybody wants to try these scripts, see the below link.


https://github.com/nvaccess/axSGrease


Re: OCR Solution

 

Hi,




Am 27.05.2018 um 18:44 schrieb Vlad Dragomir:
Dear all,

I need to find a way to transform image pdf files into text. These are mostly books that have been scanned a while ago, but I haven't had the time and patience to find a solution. Now I really need to do something about this, for professional reasons.
try robobraille.org thiis is a Danish Service for converting Documents to mp3, braille and text. I don't know if you need to recognize letters from Russia or so, this is also possible with this browser app. This app uses tesseract as engine for recognizing the Text out of the document.

I found this Windows 10 app called KNFB Reader, which seems to do exactly that. However, since this is a rather expensive app, I'd like to ask those who have already used it a few things if I may:
1. How does this app deal with multi-lingual documents? Is it possible to choose two or more recognission languages for the same book? Most of my books are manuals. I am a language teacher and it is very important that both languages used in a book be accurately detected.
2. Is formatting being retained, at least in part?
3. Are there any alternatives to this application? It seems to be the only accessible solution, but I might be wrong.

I would be very grateful if anyone could help me with this.

Most sincerely,

Vlad
Greetings, Wolfram


OCR Solution

Vlad Dragomir
 

Dear all,

I need to find a way to transform image pdf files into text. These are mostly books that have been scanned a while ago, but I haven't had the time and patience to find a solution. Now I really need to do something about this, for professional reasons.

I found this Windows 10 app called KNFB Reader, which seems to do exactly that. However, since this is a rather expensive app, I'd like to ask those who have already used it a few things if I may:
1. How does this app deal with multi-lingual documents? Is it possible to choose two or more recognission languages for the same book? Most of my books are manuals. I am a language teacher and it is very important that both languages used in a book be accurately detected.
2. Is formatting being retained, at least in part?
3. Are there any alternatives to this application? It seems to be the only accessible solution, but I might be wrong.

I would be very grateful if anyone could help me with this.

Most sincerely,

Vlad


Re: Setting Mouse Cursor to Play Follow the Leader with Review Cursor?

 

Kenny,

         Will you please report back with your findings with regard to whether the Focus Highlight add-on actually forces the behavior you're seeking?

         Inquiring minds, and all that . . .

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 


NVDA no longer gives feedback on copy, cut and paste as before

Gerardo Corripio
 

This morning i updated several AddOns (including Contents Clipboard Designer), but now when I do Control+c, Control+x etc., NVDA no longer tels me when I copied, pasted or cut text! Is this a bug with the AddOn, or what might I be missing? I'm pretty sure NVDA used to give me this feedback before. Thanks for info.

--
Gera
Enviado desde Thunderbird


Re: Setting Mouse Cursor to Play Follow the Leader with Review Cursor?

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

Didn't think of that. I'll give it a try though. Thanks.


On 5/26/2018 11:55 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Kenny,

             What follows is a SWAG, but have you tried adding the Focus Highlight add-on to see if that might force the behavior you're looking for?  I realize you don't need to see the Focus Highlight, but as someone who uses this add-on because it's really helpful for me to see what has focus it does seem to keep the PC cursor in sync with the NVDA virtual cursor.   It's worth a shot, anyway since it's simple to install and remove.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     After all, a democracy based solely on the values of the majority, with no overriding ethical principles and processes, is nothing more than clubhouse democracy, great for those on the inside and a tyranny for those who fail to see eye to eye with the majority.

         ~ Paul Noeldner, May 16, 2007 

 

 



Re: HELLO THERE

 

hi and welcome to the list.
i dont use any addons, except remote support.
because i love getting remote support from trustworthy people! or test
new softwares and operating systems remotely!

On 5/27/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi


Which skype version the one for windows 10 as a app? or the desk top version
of which i have a copy i can drop box version 7.4 or some thing like that.


There is also a web version of skype which can be done through the browser
which i have written but not posted still in a draft I think there is a
audio file for it 2.


the desk top version is easier to use so is the app version etc


Gene nz


On 5/25/2018 8:55 PM, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:
Thanks very much for this info. It’s appreciated.

With regards to skype do I just download the latest version then?
I installed windows 10 app essentials. I just hit enter on it and it seems
to have done it itself.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New
Zealand
Sent: 24 May 2018 22:09
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] HELLO THERE


Hi



If you are not sure where to get the official add ons from when nvda is
running press the nvda key + letter N a menu will pop up then arrow down to
tools then a sub menu will appear then arrow down to manage add ons then
press the enter key. A new screen will appear where there are buttons tab to
the get add ons button then press the enter key and your browser will open.



There will be a list of add ons you can use.


Do you know how to install them? if you are interested i have put together a
web site that may help you it all so includes installing add ons and alot
more in written and audio. it is only for the desk top version of nvda.

it also has a tutorial for winamp and skype etc. it can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
There are links on the main page that are blindness related as well as nvda
related. You will find also if you go into one of the nvda pages it is a
website inside of a website so you can bookmark one of the nvda pages and
it will have links to all nvda pages you will see what i mean.

hope it helps.

Gene nz
On 5/24/2018 8:54 PM, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi there,

I’m a new nvda user. I’m liking it so far I’m really impressed with it.

I’m just wondering about any good addons that might be useful. What do
people favour using? I use programmes like iTunes and winamp and skype. I
haven’t yet downloaded skype onto my new machine as I’m told it’s not that
accessible. Would like more information on this.



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with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Re: Does this page sound weird to anybody else?

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  I've studied the source of the page.  Looks to me like all the elements and text of the page are derived from  Java script widgets which have not been made accessible.  Cheers!


On 5/27/2018 1:40 AM, Gene wrote:
I'm not using new versions of NVDA or Firefox on this computer so I'm not sure if I see what you see, but I think I do.  Some of the page reads properly but much of the page consists of some words read properly and a lot of words having missing letters with improper symbols in their place.  I can more or less understand the text because I have punctuation completely off.as in this line:
you %ill %ant to select !rant -ights to Parent!uardians.
Translation:
You will want to select grant rights to parent guardians.
 
Someone with technical knowledge about web site construction may be able to explain why. 
 
If you turn punctuation off, I don't know if you will understand what is being said on the site enough to work with it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Mann
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 11:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] Does this page sound weird to anybody else?

When I go to the below page with NVDA, to me it sounds like just parts of words are read.  In the middle of some words, symbols such as “dollar” and “percent” are being read.

I’ve tried it with Internet Explorer and Firefox.  The URL is https://saintleouniversityparents.weebly.com/my-parent-access.html.