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Re: Dropbox preferences anomoly..

Brian's Mail list account
 

Actually its not just this machine so either folk have got something different or the latest version of master is broken.
Anyone care to try it?
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox preferences anomoly..


Hmm, well I tried arrows tabs and screen and object nav. maybe something ois odd about my 7 machine. No rude jukes please!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Clare Page" <clare.page@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox preferences anomoly..


Hi!
I have Dropbox 50 on a Windows 7 computer here, and I can read the Dropbox
preferences with no problems, although I haven't tried changing anything
there.
It's true that the Preferences window looks blank when it's first opened,
but I could find the different options by pressing the Tab key.
I hope this helps!
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: lundi 28 mai 2018 12:14
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Subject: [nvda] Dropbox preferences anomoly..

Can somebody who uses Dropbox in Windows 10, go to the tray icon and open
the preferences tab?
I'm told by several people this works, but I'm on windows 7 and with
dropbox 50, it appears blank to me.
Here is the log. If you hate these then stop reading. I'm loathe to post a
ticket as at the moment I'm not sure if its windows, dropbox or nvda which
is the problem here.


Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Pause syncing p 11 of 16']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:02:56.917):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

IO - speech.speak (11:02:56.967):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Preferences... p 13 of 16']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:02:59.053):

Input: kb(desktop):enter

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.243):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.257):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.257):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.259):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 2032410, objectID -4 and
childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.263):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1705384, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483456: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.265):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 328996, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483455: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.265):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 983806, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483454: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1114884, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483529: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1311392, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483531: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 328814, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483453: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1180348, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483452: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 394352, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483631: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 656502, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483451: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.267):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 2032410, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483450: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.267):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483458: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.269):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.269):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - speech.speak (11:02:59.288):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Dropbox Preferences window']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:01.517):

Input: kb(desktop):tab

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:01.528):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483627: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:02.269):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:02.273):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483625: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:02.813):

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:02.821):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483627: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:04.197):

Input: kb(desktop):numpad4

IO - speech.speak (11:03:04.211):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Top']

IO - speech.speak (11:03:04.213):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Dropbox ']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:04.966):

Input: kb(desktop):numpad6

IO - speech.speak (11:03:04.977):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Preferences']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:05.845):

Input: kb(desktop):numpad6

IO - speech.speak (11:03:05.864):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Bottom']

IO - speech.speak (11:03:05.865):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Preferences']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:10.213):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:10.233):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483625: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:10.717):

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:10.730):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483627: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:11.197):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:11.220):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483625: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:11.973):

Input: kb(desktop):tab

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:11.979):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483619: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:13.151):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:13.494):

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:13.516):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483619: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:23.630):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+f1

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(11:03:24.032):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'Dropbox Preferences'

role: ROLE_WINDOW

states:

isFocusable: False

hasFocus: False

Python object: <NVDAObjects.window.Window object at 0x059A8E70>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>,
<class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class
'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: ''

location: (707, 305, 507, 424)

value: ''

appModule: <'dropbox' (appName u'dropbox', process ID 2572) at address
5679b50>

appModule.productName: u'Dropbox'

appModule.productVersion: u'50.4.71'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 787968

windowClassName: u'Qt5QWindowIcon'

windowControlID: 0

windowStyle: -1765015552

windowThreadID: 2576

windowText: u'Dropbox Preferences'

displayText: u'Dropbox Preferences'


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Can't load Seika Touchme5 in NVDA!

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hello all,

I normally use a pm 40 display from Freedom Scientific with this computer, but it needs cleaning, so I tried to connect my Touchme5 by Seika.
I'd never had any problems with it, but now I keep getting an error, and a message that says "Cannot load braille display".

I see that the driver is no longer present in the latest Next.

I got the driver from a friend, but still can't use the display.

Any suggestions, please?

Thanks, take care,
Ollie


Re: How to set up Braille for focus display?

Jason White
 

John J. Boyer <john.boyer@...> wrote:
You need the driver from Freedom Scientific. That is the one that will work. Look at the instructions in the NVDA
User's Guide under Braille displays and Freedom Scientific. There is a link for downloading the driver. unfortunately, I
don't have the link at hand right now. I am using Focus displays.

Yes, that driver does work.


Re: Hello Reaper controls and screen nave etc

Matt Turner
 

Hi.

I just heard reaper, so if your curious, there's a mailing list/ whatsapp group.

For more info, goe here.

https://reaperaccessibility.com/index.php/Main_Page

On 5/29/2018 7:15 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
On Reaper was there not a helper program for that. I've not looked at it as its a bit over the top for the sound editing I tend to do, but it is a bit of a pain if important options aare not seen

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Cross" <bcross3286@...>
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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hello


I'd say for just starting out, learn the commands you need for every day
use, then transition to new things as and when you need them, or if you are
curious, sooner. Becoming familiar with the review cursor and object nav in
NVDA are good skills to have, because they can help you gain some extra
usability out of apps that aren't the best accessibility wise, and, even
the ones that are, you will find that not everything is in the tab index,
and things will be hidden from screen readers that are perfectly visible to
sighted users. An example of which is the save dialog in reaper, not the
render one, but to save a project, that dialog has a bunch of options you
never see unless you use object navigation, and some of them are quite
useful, such as copying new media into the project folder, what options to
use to convert media, such as format / encoding, etc. Screen review is good
for trying to figure out what's going on with an app, say, if its not
showing anything at all to the screen reader. You switch to the screen
review mode, then use the review keys to see if you can get anything.
Sometimes you will, sometimes not.


Re: Hello Reaper controls and screen nave etc

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On Reaper was there not a helper program for that. I've not looked at it as its a bit over the top for the sound editing I tend to do, but it is a bit of a pain if important options aare not seen

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Cross" <bcross3286@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hello


I'd say for just starting out, learn the commands you need for every day
use, then transition to new things as and when you need them, or if you are
curious, sooner. Becoming familiar with the review cursor and object nav in
NVDA are good skills to have, because they can help you gain some extra
usability out of apps that aren't the best accessibility wise, and, even
the ones that are, you will find that not everything is in the tab index,
and things will be hidden from screen readers that are perfectly visible to
sighted users. An example of which is the save dialog in reaper, not the
render one, but to save a project, that dialog has a bunch of options you
never see unless you use object navigation, and some of them are quite
useful, such as copying new media into the project folder, what options to
use to convert media, such as format / encoding, etc. Screen review is good
for trying to figure out what's going on with an app, say, if its not
showing anything at all to the screen reader. You switch to the screen
review mode, then use the review keys to see if you can get anything.
Sometimes you will, sometimes not.


Re: Hello

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What somebody told me was this, a relative of the person starting on nvda downloaded the latest Joseph tutorials and put them in folders on a ram stick, which enabled the use to use one off the many ram stick audio players at cheap prices these days to actually move about the articles using folder or file level navigation.
This seemed to be very much appreciated. I think we all need a computer literate helper at times to do this sort of simple, but not obvious thing.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hello


Learning some often used commands is important but if you want to use features of NVDA such as screen review and mouse actions, you would likely be far better served by a tutorial explaining such things as object navigation, screen review, and document review. Object navigation isn't used in NVDA and, while screen review is similar to using the Window-eyes mouse cursor movement and review means of navigation, it isn't the same in terms of commands. You also need to know how to switch review modes.

For using NVDA with applications where you do everything directly in the application, screen-readers in general are similar. That's because most commands in that context are Windows commands or program commands.

I'm not sure now what tutorials are current. I used to recommend Joseph Lee's tutorial, but it isn't clear to me if it is now current. You may want to use the manual, at least to an extent at this point, but my observation and experience is that most people much prefer and learn better using tutorials than typical manuals. It may be that the manual would be a good way to review or to learn once you get to a certain advanced level.

The manual or the quick commands reference might be a good way to learn basic commands since you are already an experienced screen-reader user.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Antony Stone
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 6:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hello


You can find the commands for NVDA starting at section 4.6 of
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html

Sections 3 and 4 of that document will help you with installing and starting
NVDA.

You might also find the following article helpful:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Switching-from-Window-Eyes-to-
NVDA


Antony.

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Sent from my iPhone hi,
My name is Ashley Breger and I’m interested in NVDA as I am transitioning
from Window-Eyes and I think the commands may be fairly similar? Am I
correct in my thinking?
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Ashley Breger
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Re: Dropbox preferences anomoly..

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Hmm, well I tried arrows tabs and screen and object nav. maybe something ois odd about my 7 machine. No rude jukes please!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Clare Page" <clare.page@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox preferences anomoly..


Hi!
I have Dropbox 50 on a Windows 7 computer here, and I can read the Dropbox
preferences with no problems, although I haven't tried changing anything
there.
It's true that the Preferences window looks blank when it's first opened,
but I could find the different options by pressing the Tab key.
I hope this helps!
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: lundi 28 mai 2018 12:14
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Dropbox preferences anomoly..

Can somebody who uses Dropbox in Windows 10, go to the tray icon and open
the preferences tab?
I'm told by several people this works, but I'm on windows 7 and with
dropbox 50, it appears blank to me.
Here is the log. If you hate these then stop reading. I'm loathe to post a
ticket as at the moment I'm not sure if its windows, dropbox or nvda which
is the problem here.


Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Pause syncing p 11 of 16']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:02:56.917):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

IO - speech.speak (11:02:56.967):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Preferences... p 13 of 16']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:02:59.053):

Input: kb(desktop):enter

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.243):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.257):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.257):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.259):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 2032410, objectID -4 and
childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.263):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1705384, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483456: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.265):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 328996, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483455: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.265):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 983806, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483454: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1114884, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483529: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1311392, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483531: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 328814, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483453: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1180348, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483452: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 394352, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483631: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 656502, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483451: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.267):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 2032410, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483450: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.267):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483458: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.269):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.269):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - speech.speak (11:02:59.288):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Dropbox Preferences window']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:01.517):

Input: kb(desktop):tab

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:01.528):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483627: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:02.269):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:02.273):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483625: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:02.813):

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:02.821):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483627: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:04.197):

Input: kb(desktop):numpad4

IO - speech.speak (11:03:04.211):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Top']

IO - speech.speak (11:03:04.213):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Dropbox ']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:04.966):

Input: kb(desktop):numpad6

IO - speech.speak (11:03:04.977):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Preferences']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:05.845):

Input: kb(desktop):numpad6

IO - speech.speak (11:03:05.864):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Bottom']

IO - speech.speak (11:03:05.865):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Preferences']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:10.213):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:10.233):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483625: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:10.717):

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:10.730):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483627: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:11.197):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:11.220):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483625: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:11.973):

Input: kb(desktop):tab

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:11.979):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483619: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:13.151):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:13.494):

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:13.516):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483619: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:23.630):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+f1

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(11:03:24.032):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'Dropbox Preferences'

role: ROLE_WINDOW

states:

isFocusable: False

hasFocus: False

Python object: <NVDAObjects.window.Window object at 0x059A8E70>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>,
<class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class
'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: ''

location: (707, 305, 507, 424)

value: ''

appModule: <'dropbox' (appName u'dropbox', process ID 2572) at address
5679b50>

appModule.productName: u'Dropbox'

appModule.productVersion: u'50.4.71'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 787968

windowClassName: u'Qt5QWindowIcon'

windowControlID: 0

windowStyle: -1765015552

windowThreadID: 2576

windowText: u'Dropbox Preferences'

displayText: u'Dropbox Preferences'


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Re: Dropbox preferences anomoly..

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No does not work in my Windows 7 at all. I already tried that trick and the object and screen nave just say top and bottom. As you can see from the log, its not seeing anything. it obviously needs a tweak to work in windows 7. Could this be the old UIA best version modification making us assume there is nothing in the page?
Maybe a dev with 7 could look at this, might be a simple fix for windows 7.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox preferences anomoly..


Hello!

Only one small problem...
When tabing and lands in the list of tabs, NVDA does not announce the tab name. If you arrow left or right the names are announced.

Windows 10 1803; NVDA last Next; Dropbox 50.4.71.

Rui Fontes


Às 11:13 de 28/05/2018, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:
Can somebody who uses Dropbox in Windows 10, go to the tray icon and open the preferences tab?
I'm told by several people this works, but I'm on windows 7 and with dropbox 50, it appears blank to me.
Here is the log. If you hate these then stop reading. I'm loathe to post a ticket as at the moment I'm not sure if its windows, dropbox or nvda which is the problem here.


Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Pause syncing p 11 of 16']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:02:56.917):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

IO - speech.speak (11:02:56.967):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Preferences... p 13 of 16']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:02:59.053):

Input: kb(desktop):enter

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.243):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.257):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.257):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.259):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 2032410, objectID -4 and childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.263):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1705384, objectID -4 and childID -2147483456: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.265):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 328996, objectID -4 and childID -2147483455: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.265):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 983806, objectID -4 and childID -2147483454: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1114884, objectID -4 and childID -2147483529: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1311392, objectID -4 and childID -2147483531: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 328814, objectID -4 and childID -2147483453: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1180348, objectID -4 and childID -2147483452: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 394352, objectID -4 and childID -2147483631: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 656502, objectID -4 and childID -2147483451: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.267):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 2032410, objectID -4 and childID -2147483450: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.267):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID -2147483458: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.269):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.269):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - speech.speak (11:02:59.288):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Dropbox Preferences window']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:01.517):

Input: kb(desktop):tab

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:01.528):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and childID -2147483627: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:02.269):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:02.273):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and childID -2147483625: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:02.813):

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:02.821):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and childID -2147483627: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:04.197):

Input: kb(desktop):numpad4

IO - speech.speak (11:03:04.211):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Top']

IO - speech.speak (11:03:04.213):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Dropbox ']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:04.966):

Input: kb(desktop):numpad6

IO - speech.speak (11:03:04.977):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Preferences']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:05.845):

Input: kb(desktop):numpad6

IO - speech.speak (11:03:05.864):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Bottom']

IO - speech.speak (11:03:05.865):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Preferences']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:10.213):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:10.233):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and childID -2147483625: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:10.717):

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:10.730):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and childID -2147483627: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:11.197):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:11.220):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and childID -2147483625: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:11.973):

Input: kb(desktop):tab

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:11.979):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and childID -2147483619: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:13.151):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:13.494):

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:13.516):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and childID -2147483619: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:23.630):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+f1

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (11:03:24.032):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'Dropbox Preferences'

role: ROLE_WINDOW

states:

isFocusable: False

hasFocus: False

Python object: <NVDAObjects.window.Window object at 0x059A8E70>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: ''

location: (707, 305, 507, 424)

value: ''

appModule: <'dropbox' (appName u'dropbox', process ID 2572) at address 5679b50>

appModule.productName: u'Dropbox'

appModule.productVersion: u'50.4.71'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 787968

windowClassName: u'Qt5QWindowIcon'

windowControlID: 0

windowStyle: -1765015552

windowThreadID: 2576

windowText: u'Dropbox Preferences'

displayText: u'Dropbox Preferences'


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Re: How to set up Braille for focus display?

Rui Fontes
 

If you have Jaws installed on your machine, it should have installed the drivers...

Rui


Às 09:15 de 29/05/2018, Nicolai Svendsen escreveu:

Hi,
I've personally never had to do that. When I got mine, I just plugged it in and picked the appropriate option from NVDAs braille settings without installing anything. This was like a year ago.
Nicolai

On May 29, 2018, at 10:03 AM, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:

Hello,


I think you still need a driver.


See if this one works:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwu4v41b2guydn2/FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030.exe?dl=0


hth, ciao,

Ollie





Il 29/05/2018 02:41, Ann Byrne ha scritto:
I know it can be done, but I don't remember how. I have a newe (used) computer with NVDa and a Focus 40 Braille display. How do I make NVDA see this display?

thanks,





Re: Dropbox preferences anomoly..

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi!
I have Dropbox 50 on a Windows 7 computer here, and I can read the Dropbox
preferences with no problems, although I haven't tried changing anything
there.
It's true that the Preferences window looks blank when it's first opened,
but I could find the different options by pressing the Tab key.
I hope this helps!
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: lundi 28 mai 2018 12:14
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Dropbox preferences anomoly..

Can somebody who uses Dropbox in Windows 10, go to the tray icon and open
the preferences tab?
I'm told by several people this works, but I'm on windows 7 and with
dropbox 50, it appears blank to me.
Here is the log. If you hate these then stop reading. I'm loathe to post a
ticket as at the moment I'm not sure if its windows, dropbox or nvda which
is the problem here.


Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Pause syncing p 11 of 16']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:02:56.917):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

IO - speech.speak (11:02:56.967):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Preferences... p 13 of 16']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:02:59.053):

Input: kb(desktop):enter

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.243):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.257):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.257):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.259):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 2032410, objectID -4 and
childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.263):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1705384, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483456: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.265):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 328996, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483455: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.265):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 983806, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483454: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1114884, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483529: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1311392, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483531: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 328814, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483453: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1180348, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483452: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 394352, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483631: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.266):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 656502, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483451: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.267):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 2032410, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483450: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.267):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483458: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.269):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:02:59.269):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 787968, objectID -4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - speech.speak (11:02:59.288):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Dropbox Preferences window']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:01.517):

Input: kb(desktop):tab

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:01.528):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483627: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:02.269):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:02.273):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483625: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:02.813):

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:02.821):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483627: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:04.197):

Input: kb(desktop):numpad4

IO - speech.speak (11:03:04.211):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Top']

IO - speech.speak (11:03:04.213):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Dropbox ']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:04.966):

Input: kb(desktop):numpad6

IO - speech.speak (11:03:04.977):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Preferences']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:05.845):

Input: kb(desktop):numpad6

IO - speech.speak (11:03:05.864):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Bottom']

IO - speech.speak (11:03:05.865):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Preferences']

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:10.213):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:10.233):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483625: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:10.717):

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:10.730):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483627: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:11.197):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:11.220):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483625: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:11.973):

Input: kb(desktop):tab

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:11.979):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483619: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:13.151):

Input: kb(desktop):downArrow

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:13.494):

Input: kb(desktop):upArrow

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (11:03:13.516):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1050108, objectID -4 and
childID -2147483619: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:03:23.630):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+f1

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(11:03:24.032):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'Dropbox Preferences'

role: ROLE_WINDOW

states:

isFocusable: False

hasFocus: False

Python object: <NVDAObjects.window.Window object at 0x059A8E70>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>,
<class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class
'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: ''

location: (707, 305, 507, 424)

value: ''

appModule: <'dropbox' (appName u'dropbox', process ID 2572) at address
5679b50>

appModule.productName: u'Dropbox'

appModule.productVersion: u'50.4.71'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 787968

windowClassName: u'Qt5QWindowIcon'

windowControlID: 0

windowStyle: -1765015552

windowThreadID: 2576

windowText: u'Dropbox Preferences'

displayText: u'Dropbox Preferences'


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Re: How to set up Braille for focus display?

Nicolai Svendsen
 

Hi,

I've personally never had to do that. When I got mine, I just plugged it in and picked the appropriate option from NVDAs braille settings without installing anything. This was like a year ago.

Nicolai

On May 29, 2018, at 10:03 AM, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:

Hello,


I think you still need a driver.


See if this one works:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwu4v41b2guydn2/FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030.exe?dl=0


hth, ciao,

Ollie





Il 29/05/2018 02:41, Ann Byrne ha scritto:
I know it can be done, but I don't remember how. I have a newe (used) computer with NVDa and a Focus 40 Braille display. How do I make NVDA see this display?

thanks,





Re: How to set up Braille for focus display?

John J. Boyer
 

You need the driver from Freedom Scientific. That is the one that will work. Look at the instructions in the NVDA
User's Guide under Braille displays and Freedom Scientific. There is a link for downloading the driver. unfortunately, I
don't have the link at hand right now. I am using Focus displays.

John

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:03:36AM +0200, Mallard wrote:
Hello,


I think you still need a driver.


See if this one works:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwu4v41b2guydn2/FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030.exe?dl=0


hth, ciao,

Ollie





Il 29/05/2018 02:41, Ann Byrne ha scritto:
I know it can be done, but I don't remember how.  I have a newe (used)
computer with NVDa and a Focus 40 Braille display.  How do I make NVDA see
this display?

thanks,





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Re: How to set up Braille for focus display?

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hello,


I think you still need a driver.


See if this one works:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwu4v41b2guydn2/FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030.exe?dl=0


hth, ciao,

Ollie

Il 29/05/2018 02:41, Ann Byrne ha scritto:
I know it can be done, but I don't remember how.  I have a newe (used) computer with NVDa and a Focus 40 Braille display.  How do I make NVDA see this display?

thanks,



Re: A new member with some questions

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Matthew,

Excel has a track changes feature which essentially works the same as the same feature in Word.  That is, once Track changes is turned on, any changes you make (deleting or adding text etc) is highlighted so your colleagues can see what has changed.

Where it is depends on the version of Excel you are using.  If you are using the latest Office 365, the feature has been depreciated in favour of Co-authoring.  If you are using an earlier version of Excel, the feature was in the "Review" ribbon (press alt+r to get to that ribbon)

I must admit, I haven't used co-authoring, so can't comment too much on that, you can find some information from Microsoft here: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b

You can still use Track Changes if you like, but you'll need to add it back to the ribbon.  See: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b for details on how to do that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@...> wrote:
Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions about
using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow highlight a cell
so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination to
do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes have
occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus from
NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.






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A new member with some questions

Matthew Elliff
 

Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions about
using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow highlight a cell
so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination to
do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes have
occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus from
NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.


How to set up Braille for focus display?

Ann Byrne <annakb@...>
 

I know it can be done, but I don't remember how. I have a newe (used) computer with NVDa and a Focus 40 Braille display. How do I make NVDA see this display?

thanks,


Re: accessible DVD burning software with NVDA

Dan Beaver
 

Obviously I am not explaining what I am trying to do very well. 


I want to burn an MP4 file to a DVD so that the DVD is a video DVD not a data disk.  I do not just want to vurn files to the disk.  I want a DVD that will play as a movie.


I think I am going to just pay for the gold pack and upgrade my copy of FreemakeVC.  It seems like the easiest thing to do at this point.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver


On 5/28/2018 2:29 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Well, whether MP4 can be played in a typical DVD player depends on whether the DVD player supports playing MP4 format, most modern ones do.

Just went through the steps to create a DVD of MP4 files in Anyburn 4.1, 64-bit, and here they are:

1. Open Anyburn. 
 
2. Navigate to Burn or append files/folders to a disc button and activate.
 
3. In dialog that opens, navigate to Add button then use the standard Windows dialog to navigate to the folder you wish to select the file (or files, if multi-selecting) from, then select it/them.  Lather, rinse, repeat as many times as necessary to get to all the folders and files you wish to have burned to the DVD.
 
4. Activate "Next" button after you've collected all of the MP4 files (or any other files your player is capable of playing) you wish to have on the DVD.
 
5. Activate the "Burn Now" button.  You must, of course, have a blank burnable DVD in your drive before hitting this button.
 
6. Unless you've unchecked the default setting, disc after burning," you will hear the disk eject when it is complete (or if the burn fails in some way, I believe)
 

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Re: accessible DVD burning software with NVDA

 

Kostadin,

           It is unclear to me exactly what's being asked for.  There are very few home DVD burning applications that will do file conversion from one format to native DVD format when burning.  They will do DVD to DVD copying for non-protected DVD format material, but using the approach of disc cloning.

           Most recent DVD players can handle the most common multimedia file formats as well as CD audio format and a number of other audio file formats as well.

          I was just trying to point out that MP4 format is not rejected by AnyBurn when what you're trying to do is to burn it to DVD in its native format.

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Re: making nvda not say spelling error?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi have a look under document formatting and uncheck the box that say
spelling errors.


Also check under voice settings and you might have to uncheck use
spelling functionality if supported.


hope this helps.


Gene nz

On 5/29/2018 9:06 AM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello I don't know if chrome is the issue or iv it is nvda but can any
one tell me how to have it not telling spelling spelling etc

it is really driving me nuts.

thanks

Hank


Re: making nvda not say spelling error?

Jackie
 

It's in preferences > document formatting. There's also a setting in
Chrome's settings menu that lets you use a web service to check for
spelling errors, which you should likely also disable.

On 5/28/18, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
Hello I don't know if chrome is the issue or iv it is nvda but can any
one tell me how to have it not telling spelling spelling etc

it is really driving me nuts.

thanks

Hank


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