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I'm still not having any luck. Do you folk with windows 7 who have it working have a specific version of the add on?
That is the only avenue left to me, as neither of my two machines can see anything but an empty nothingness that has no focus no matter what I do.
Brian

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Re: MeWe

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I'm not even sure what it is!
Sounds a bit Chinese to me.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Governor staten" <govsta@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 1:32 AM
Subject: [nvda] MeWe


Hello guys. Have any of you tried out MeWe at all? If anyone has, I'd like to know of your experiences.


For purposes of this question, I'm speaking of using www.mewe.com with NVDA and any given browser. How did it or does it work for you? My experience with the website haven't been the greatest. For example, I cannot find where to type in a status update.


It is possible I need to be schooled as to something I"m doing wrong. Feel free to do so. Any help with this one is appreciated.



Re: contextual help in NVDA setting panels

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I think contextual help would be quite a big thing to implement as it would need a whole new file which is translatable in every sort of dialogue you go to in nvda.
I have not often found these very helpful elsewhere, but that might be just me. Most of the descriptions are short and not often covering the specific query you have as such.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] contextual help in NVDA setting panels


I am unaware of any feature in NVDA that will do this. something that can be turned on and off certainly won't. A feature like this provides information about a specific control you are on and it is far more information than you would want as a matter of routine. I don't think that NVDA has such a feature but I may be wrong. But it will be a command, not a general setting.

Gene
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From: zahra
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 4:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] contextual help in NVDA setting panels


how about object discription?
did you try this feature too?
i did not mention it, because it is checked by default.

On 5/30/18, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@air.org> wrote:
Hello Zahra,

This did not work for me at least not in the Snapshot build with the new
unified preference panes On Windows 10, or with NVDA 2018.1 on Windows 7.
I turned on tooltip objects and made sure that help balloon was also
checked.


I was looking at the Preference pane for Input Composition and did not
receive any speech describing what the fields use was as I hit tab key to
move focus.

Thanks,

Jonathan


5/29/18, 1:48 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of zahra"
<nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:

hi.
go to the preferences and object presentation.
and check Report tooltips with space and press enter on okay button.
with enabling this option, you even dont need to press f1!
nvda announces discription of every item automaticly!
hope that help, God bless you all!

On 5/29/18, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@air.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> One feature I used to like about WindowEyes was the ability to type
F1
while
> navigating through the WindowEyes panel and having a two or three
sentence
> prase describing in more details the currently focused item.
>
> Does NVDA have functionality like this that I missed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>


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Re: contextual help in NVDA setting panels

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As long as somebody has actually added a description that is, but some places there is not one and in the new tabbed options panel in nvda, I'm not sure what its actually doing.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] contextual help in NVDA setting panels


hi.
go to the preferences and object presentation.
and check Report tooltips with space and press enter on okay button.
with enabling this option, you even dont need to press f1!
nvda announces discription of every item automaticly!
hope that help, God bless you all!

On 5/29/18, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@air.org> wrote:
Hello,

One feature I used to like about WindowEyes was the ability to type F1 while
navigating through the WindowEyes panel and having a two or three sentence
prase describing in more details the currently focused item.

Does NVDA have functionality like this that I missed?

Thanks,

Jonathan Cohn


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: A new member with some questions

Gene
 

I should clarify a statement I made in the message, quoted below.  I meant that you never use up and down arrows to move through a ribbon.  There are times when you use up and down arrows while working with an item in a ribbon such as a menu or combo box.  But you don't when you are tabbing through items to move through a ribbon.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A new member with some questions

Once you move to a ribbon, you tab through the ribbon.  You never use up and down arrow keys.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A new member with some questions

Hi, I have office 2013. When I hit alt are to go to that part of the ribbon, I only have two options. I don’t see anything about track changes. Is there some other way of navigating these ribbons besides the up and down arrow keys? I’ve never been very good with them. With left and right, I just go back to the other tabs in the ribbon. Do you have any idea about the other questions that I posed? Thanks for your help.


On May 28, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Excel has a track changes feature which essentially works the same as the same feature in Word.  That is, once Track changes is turned on, any changes you make (deleting or adding text etc) is highlighted so your colleagues can see what has changed.

Where it is depends on the version of Excel you are using.  If you are using the latest Office 365, the feature has been depreciated in favour of Co-authoring.  If you are using an earlier version of Excel, the feature was in the "Review" ribbon (press alt+r to get to that ribbon)

I must admit, I haven't used co-authoring, so can't comment too much on that, you can find some information from Microsoft here: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b

You can still use Track Changes if you like, but you'll need to add it back to the ribbon.  See: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b for details on how to do that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@...> wrote:
Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions about
using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow highlight a cell
so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination to
do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes have
occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus from
NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.






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Re: A new member with some questions

Gene
 

Your discussion of how to work with menus in ribbons is not correct. In ribbons, if you tab to a menu, it is a button.  Your screen-reader will tell you that it is a menu and say button.  You activate the button with either enter or space bar.  Since it is better and sometimes necessary to use the space bar except when dealing with a default button, for consistency, I advocate using the space bar.   
 
After you activate the space bar and the menu opens, then you use the up and down arrow keys as you do in any standard menu.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A new member with some questions

Hi

I have Office 2007 and to navigate ribbons after  moving directly to a using alt+r for instance, I use tab and shift+tab to move through the menu items.  Some menu items contain multiple choices which are navigated with arrow keys. 

 

If just accessing the menu bar using the alt key alone, use right/left arrows to find the menu you want, activate the dropdown using down arrow then use the keystrokes described in the previous paragraph.     

 

Cheers

Chris

I have Office 2007 and to navigate ribbons

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Elliff
Sent: 30 May 2018 00:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A new member with some questions

 

Hi, I have office 2013. When I hit alt are to go to that part of the ribbon, I only have two options. I don’t see anything about track changes. Is there some other way of navigating these ribbons besides the up and down arrow keys? I’ve never been very good with them. With left and right, I just go back to the other tabs in the ribbon. Do you have any idea about the other questions that I posed? Thanks for your help.


On May 28, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Hi Matthew,


Excel has a track changes feature which essentially works the same as the same feature in Word.  That is, once Track changes is turned on, any changes you make (deleting or adding text etc) is highlighted so your colleagues can see what has changed.

 

Where it is depends on the version of Excel you are using.  If you are using the latest Office 365, the feature has been depreciated in favour of Co-authoring.  If you are using an earlier version of Excel, the feature was in the "Review" ribbon (press alt+r to get to that ribbon)

 

I must admit, I haven't used co-authoring, so can't comment too much on that, you can find some information from Microsoft here: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b

 

You can still use Track Changes if you like, but you'll need to add it back to the ribbon.  See: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b for details on how to do that.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@...> wrote:

Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions about
using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow highlight a cell
so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination to
do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes have
occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus from
NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.




 

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Re: A new member with some questions

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I have Office 2007 and to navigate ribbons after  moving directly to a using alt+r for instance, I use tab and shift+tab to move through the menu items.  Some menu items contain multiple choices which are navigated with arrow keys. 

 

If just accessing the menu bar using the alt key alone, use right/left arrows to find the menu you want, activate the dropdown using down arrow then use the keystrokes described in the previous paragraph.     

 

Cheers

Chris

I have Office 2007 and to navigate ribbons

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Elliff
Sent: 30 May 2018 00:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A new member with some questions

 

Hi, I have office 2013. When I hit alt are to go to that part of the ribbon, I only have two options. I don’t see anything about track changes. Is there some other way of navigating these ribbons besides the up and down arrow keys? I’ve never been very good with them. With left and right, I just go back to the other tabs in the ribbon. Do you have any idea about the other questions that I posed? Thanks for your help.


On May 28, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Hi Matthew,


Excel has a track changes feature which essentially works the same as the same feature in Word.  That is, once Track changes is turned on, any changes you make (deleting or adding text etc) is highlighted so your colleagues can see what has changed.

 

Where it is depends on the version of Excel you are using.  If you are using the latest Office 365, the feature has been depreciated in favour of Co-authoring.  If you are using an earlier version of Excel, the feature was in the "Review" ribbon (press alt+r to get to that ribbon)

 

I must admit, I haven't used co-authoring, so can't comment too much on that, you can find some information from Microsoft here: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b

 

You can still use Track Changes if you like, but you'll need to add it back to the ribbon.  See: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b for details on how to do that.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@...> wrote:

Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions about
using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow highlight a cell
so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination to
do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes have
occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus from
NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.




 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: A new member with some questions

Christo Vorster
 

Hi

As far as my knowledge goes, Shift Tab moves the cursor backwards, while Tab moves it forward. Alt tab rotate between open documents or applications while Ctrl Tab navigates between, as some speech applications would call it, Tab controls.

Regards

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Programme Co-ordinator | Program Koördineerder
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Melissa Jean
Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2018 3:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A new member with some questions

You meant shift + tab. ctrl + tab goes between workbooks if you have more than one open,, right?

On 5/29/18, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
When you say you "tap" on one, do you mean with your finger, on a
touchscreen? If so, try double-tapping. If you tap once, NVDA will
announce the item, but you have to double tap to activate it. Similar
to the way the screen reader works on Android or iOS.

Oh yes, I meant to mention earlier, as Gene said, use TAB to move
through the ribbon. You can also use CONTROL+TAB to jump between
sections of the ribbon.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the info guys. What I mean is, say I have a bunch of Excel
documents up. When I tap to one, NVDA it will tell me I’m in the
next document, but on the screen, it only shows the one I was last
in. It’s not following me in each Excel document.



On May 29, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

Once you move to a ribbon, you tab through the ribbon. You never use
up and down arrow keys.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Matthew Elliff <gowrone@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2018 6:34 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] A new member with some questions

Hi, I have office 2013. When I hit alt are to go to that part of the
ribbon, I only have two options. I don’t see anything about track
changes.
Is there some other way of navigating these ribbons besides the up
and down arrow keys? I’ve never been very good with them. With left
and right, I just go back to the other tabs in the ribbon. Do you
have any idea about the other questions that I posed? Thanks for your
help.


On May 28, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen
<quentin@nvaccess.org>
wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Excel has a track changes feature which essentially works the same as
the same feature in Word. That is, once Track changes is turned on,
any changes you make (deleting or adding text etc) is highlighted so
your colleagues can see what has changed.

Where it is depends on the version of Excel you are using. If you
are using the latest Office 365, the feature has been depreciated in
favour of Co-authoring. If you are using an earlier version of
Excel, the feature was in the "Review" ribbon (press alt+r to get to
that ribbon)

I must admit, I haven't used co-authoring, so can't comment too much
on that, you can find some information from Microsoft here: https://answers.
microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_
other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/
7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b

You can still use Track Changes if you like, but you'll need to add
it back to the ribbon. See:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/
forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-
removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b for
details on how to do that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions
about using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow
highlight a cell so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination
to do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes
have occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus
from NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: A new member with some questions

Matthew Elliff
 

For highlighting, I need to actually highlight a physical cell in an
excel document, not have color follow the focus of NVDA. I schedule
donation pickups for my work. Say some one calls and say adds items to
a pick up that weren't there at first. I need to be able to highlight
that cell so my sighted coworker can see at a glance without having to
read my comments at first, if she can see this, she will know to go to
that cell first. Does that make sense? Thanks for all the help guys.

On 5/29/18, Melissa Jean <Melissa.J.Hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
You meant shift + tab. ctrl + tab goes between workbooks if you have
more than one open,, right?

On 5/29/18, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
When you say you "tap" on one, do you mean with your finger, on a
touchscreen? If so, try double-tapping. If you tap once, NVDA will
announce the item, but you have to double tap to activate it. Similar to
the way the screen reader works on Android or iOS.

Oh yes, I meant to mention earlier, as Gene said, use TAB to move through
the ribbon. You can also use CONTROL+TAB to jump between sections of the
ribbon.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@gmail.com>
wrote:

Thanks for the info guys. What I mean is, say I have a bunch of Excel
documents up. When I tap to one, NVDA it will tell me I’m in the next
document, but on the screen, it only shows the one I was last in. It’s
not
following me in each Excel document.



On May 29, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

Once you move to a ribbon, you tab through the ribbon. You never use up
and down arrow keys.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Matthew Elliff <gowrone@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2018 6:34 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] A new member with some questions

Hi, I have office 2013. When I hit alt are to go to that part of the
ribbon, I only have two options. I don’t see anything about track
changes.
Is there some other way of navigating these ribbons besides the up and
down
arrow keys? I’ve never been very good with them. With left and right, I
just go back to the other tabs in the ribbon. Do you have any idea about
the other questions that I posed? Thanks for your help.


On May 28, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org>
wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Excel has a track changes feature which essentially works the same as
the
same feature in Word. That is, once Track changes is turned on, any
changes you make (deleting or adding text etc) is highlighted so your
colleagues can see what has changed.

Where it is depends on the version of Excel you are using. If you are
using the latest Office 365, the feature has been depreciated in favour
of
Co-authoring. If you are using an earlier version of Excel, the feature
was in the "Review" ribbon (press alt+r to get to that ribbon)

I must admit, I haven't used co-authoring, so can't comment too much on
that, you can find some information from Microsoft here:
https://answers.
microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_
other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/
7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b

You can still use Track Changes if you like, but you'll need to add it
back to the ribbon. See: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/
forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-
removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b for details
on how to do that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions about
using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow highlight a cell
so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination to
do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes have
occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus from
NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess



Re: A new member with some questions

 

You meant shift + tab. ctrl + tab goes between workbooks if you have
more than one open,, right?

On 5/29/18, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
When you say you "tap" on one, do you mean with your finger, on a
touchscreen? If so, try double-tapping. If you tap once, NVDA will
announce the item, but you have to double tap to activate it. Similar to
the way the screen reader works on Android or iOS.

Oh yes, I meant to mention earlier, as Gene said, use TAB to move through
the ribbon. You can also use CONTROL+TAB to jump between sections of the
ribbon.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the info guys. What I mean is, say I have a bunch of Excel
documents up. When I tap to one, NVDA it will tell me I’m in the next
document, but on the screen, it only shows the one I was last in. It’s
not
following me in each Excel document.



On May 29, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

Once you move to a ribbon, you tab through the ribbon. You never use up
and down arrow keys.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Matthew Elliff <gowrone@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2018 6:34 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] A new member with some questions

Hi, I have office 2013. When I hit alt are to go to that part of the
ribbon, I only have two options. I don’t see anything about track
changes.
Is there some other way of navigating these ribbons besides the up and
down
arrow keys? I’ve never been very good with them. With left and right, I
just go back to the other tabs in the ribbon. Do you have any idea about
the other questions that I posed? Thanks for your help.


On May 28, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org>
wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Excel has a track changes feature which essentially works the same as the
same feature in Word. That is, once Track changes is turned on, any
changes you make (deleting or adding text etc) is highlighted so your
colleagues can see what has changed.

Where it is depends on the version of Excel you are using. If you are
using the latest Office 365, the feature has been depreciated in favour
of
Co-authoring. If you are using an earlier version of Excel, the feature
was in the "Review" ribbon (press alt+r to get to that ribbon)

I must admit, I haven't used co-authoring, so can't comment too much on
that, you can find some information from Microsoft here: https://answers.
microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_
other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/
7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b

You can still use Track Changes if you like, but you'll need to add it
back to the ribbon. See: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/
forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-
removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b for details
on how to do that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions about
using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow highlight a cell
so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination to
do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes have
occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus from
NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

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Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: A new member with some questions

Quentin Christensen
 

When you say you "tap" on one, do you mean with your finger, on a touchscreen?  If so, try double-tapping.  If you tap once, NVDA will announce the item, but you have to double tap to activate it.  Similar to the way the screen reader works on Android or iOS.

Oh yes, I meant to mention earlier, as Gene said, use TAB to move through the ribbon.  You can also use CONTROL+TAB to jump between sections of the ribbon.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@...> wrote:
Thanks for the info guys. What I mean is, say I have a bunch of Excel documents up.  When I tap to one, NVDA it will tell me I’m in the next document, but on the screen, it only shows the one I was last in. It’s not following me in each Excel document.



On May 29, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Once you move to a ribbon, you tab through the ribbon.  You never use up and down arrow keys.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A new member with some questions

Hi, I have office 2013. When I hit alt are to go to that part of the ribbon, I only have two options. I don’t see anything about track changes. Is there some other way of navigating these ribbons besides the up and down arrow keys? I’ve never been very good with them. With left and right, I just go back to the other tabs in the ribbon. Do you have any idea about the other questions that I posed? Thanks for your help.


On May 28, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Excel has a track changes feature which essentially works the same as the same feature in Word.  That is, once Track changes is turned on, any changes you make (deleting or adding text etc) is highlighted so your colleagues can see what has changed.

Where it is depends on the version of Excel you are using.  If you are using the latest Office 365, the feature has been depreciated in favour of Co-authoring.  If you are using an earlier version of Excel, the feature was in the "Review" ribbon (press alt+r to get to that ribbon)

I must admit, I haven't used co-authoring, so can't comment too much on that, you can find some information from Microsoft here: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b

You can still use Track Changes if you like, but you'll need to add it back to the ribbon.  See: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b for details on how to do that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@...> wrote:
Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions about
using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow highlight a cell
so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination to
do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes have
occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus from
NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


NVDACon program and schedule for 2018

Adriani Botez
 

Dear all,

the NVDACon organizing team is pleased to invite you at NVDACon 2018. Please
see the schedule below. We would very appreciate to have on the show. Please
invite any other interested person to this conference.
https://www.nvdacon.org/2018-program-and-schedule

In order to join the conference, you need to install TeamTalk on your PC or
Android phone. You can also install the app iTeamtalk for IOS.
See you at the NVDACon - Future proofing NVDA!


Best
Adriani


Re: A new member with some questions

Matthew Elliff
 

Thanks for the info guys. What I mean is, say I have a bunch of Excel documents up.  When I tap to one, NVDA it will tell me I’m in the next document, but on the screen, it only shows the one I was last in. It’s not following me in each Excel document.


On May 29, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Once you move to a ribbon, you tab through the ribbon.  You never use up and down arrow keys.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A new member with some questions

Hi, I have office 2013. When I hit alt are to go to that part of the ribbon, I only have two options. I don’t see anything about track changes. Is there some other way of navigating these ribbons besides the up and down arrow keys? I’ve never been very good with them. With left and right, I just go back to the other tabs in the ribbon. Do you have any idea about the other questions that I posed? Thanks for your help.


On May 28, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Excel has a track changes feature which essentially works the same as the same feature in Word.  That is, once Track changes is turned on, any changes you make (deleting or adding text etc) is highlighted so your colleagues can see what has changed.

Where it is depends on the version of Excel you are using.  If you are using the latest Office 365, the feature has been depreciated in favour of Co-authoring.  If you are using an earlier version of Excel, the feature was in the "Review" ribbon (press alt+r to get to that ribbon)

I must admit, I haven't used co-authoring, so can't comment too much on that, you can find some information from Microsoft here: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b

You can still use Track Changes if you like, but you'll need to add it back to the ribbon.  See: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b for details on how to do that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@...> wrote:
Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions about
using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow highlight a cell
so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination to
do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes have
occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus from
NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: figured out what was wrong

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Or         you can press f8 to toggle it off and on.  Cheers!

On 5/30/2018 12:01 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Uncheck the message pane in the layout . Go to the view menu with alt V. Arrow down to the layout and hit the right arrow to open it. Arrow down to the message pane and hit enter to uncheck it.


Hope this helps.


Rosemarie


On 5/29/2018 8:57 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Rosemary, can you tell me what is annd is not check in layout? I am having the same problem.

On 5/29/2018 8:26 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


I figured out what happened. The preview pane was on so I went into the view menu and unchecked it. Now thunderbird is working like a charm.


Rosemarie









MeWe

 

Hello guys. Have any of you tried out MeWe at all? If anyone has, I'd like to know of your experiences.


For purposes of this question, I'm speaking of using www.mewe.com with NVDA and any given browser. How did it or does it work for you? My experience with the website haven't been the greatest. For example, I cannot find where to type in a status update.


It is possible I need to be schooled as to something I"m doing wrong. Feel free to do so. Any help with this one is appreciated.


Re: A new member with some questions

Gene
 

Once you move to a ribbon, you tab through the ribbon.  You never use up and down arrow keys.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A new member with some questions

Hi, I have office 2013. When I hit alt are to go to that part of the ribbon, I only have two options. I don’t see anything about track changes. Is there some other way of navigating these ribbons besides the up and down arrow keys? I’ve never been very good with them. With left and right, I just go back to the other tabs in the ribbon. Do you have any idea about the other questions that I posed? Thanks for your help.


On May 28, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Excel has a track changes feature which essentially works the same as the same feature in Word.  That is, once Track changes is turned on, any changes you make (deleting or adding text etc) is highlighted so your colleagues can see what has changed.

Where it is depends on the version of Excel you are using.  If you are using the latest Office 365, the feature has been depreciated in favour of Co-authoring.  If you are using an earlier version of Excel, the feature was in the "Review" ribbon (press alt+r to get to that ribbon)

I must admit, I haven't used co-authoring, so can't comment too much on that, you can find some information from Microsoft here: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b

You can still use Track Changes if you like, but you'll need to add it back to the ribbon.  See: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b for details on how to do that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@...> wrote:
Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions about
using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow highlight a cell
so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination to
do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes have
occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus from
NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: A new member with some questions

Quentin Christensen
 

It sounds like Microsoft may have depreciated Track Changes in Excel in 2013 perhaps, in which case try the steps in that link I posted, as editing the ribbon works the same in 2013.

For the other questions:
- From NVDA's document formatting options, you can select what changes NVDA will automatically read.  For instance, if you select colour, NVDA will read changes in text colour.  Press NVDA+control+d to open that screen (The NVDA key will be either INSERT or CAPS LOCK depending on your setup).  That screen also has a "Report changes after the cursor" checkbox which you will probably want to have checked for this as well.

- For your question about having NVDA follow the focus on screen, do you mean visually?  Or do you mean you move to a different cell and NVDA isn't following?  For the second, it should follow as you move the focus, so more information might help there.  If you want to visually highlight where NVDA is reading from, there is a "focus highlight" add-on that you might like to try.  You can download the add-on from: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/focusHighlight.en.html.  Once you've downloaded it, install it via the NVDA menu (NVDA+N) then Tools (T) then Add-on manager.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@...> wrote:
Hi, I have office 2013. When I hit alt are to go to that part of the ribbon, I only have two options. I don’t see anything about track changes. Is there some other way of navigating these ribbons besides the up and down arrow keys? I’ve never been very good with them. With left and right, I just go back to the other tabs in the ribbon. Do you have any idea about the other questions that I posed? Thanks for your help.


On May 28, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Excel has a track changes feature which essentially works the same as the same feature in Word.  That is, once Track changes is turned on, any changes you make (deleting or adding text etc) is highlighted so your colleagues can see what has changed.

Where it is depends on the version of Excel you are using.  If you are using the latest Office 365, the feature has been depreciated in favour of Co-authoring.  If you are using an earlier version of Excel, the feature was in the "Review" ribbon (press alt+r to get to that ribbon)

I must admit, I haven't used co-authoring, so can't comment too much on that, you can find some information from Microsoft here: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b

You can still use Track Changes if you like, but you'll need to add it back to the ribbon.  See: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b for details on how to do that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@...> wrote:
Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions about
using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow highlight a cell
so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination to
do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes have
occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus from
NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: A new member with some questions

Matthew Elliff
 

Hi, I have office 2013. When I hit alt are to go to that part of the ribbon, I only have two options. I don’t see anything about track changes. Is there some other way of navigating these ribbons besides the up and down arrow keys? I’ve never been very good with them. With left and right, I just go back to the other tabs in the ribbon. Do you have any idea about the other questions that I posed? Thanks for your help.


On May 28, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Excel has a track changes feature which essentially works the same as the same feature in Word.  That is, once Track changes is turned on, any changes you make (deleting or adding text etc) is highlighted so your colleagues can see what has changed.

Where it is depends on the version of Excel you are using.  If you are using the latest Office 365, the feature has been depreciated in favour of Co-authoring.  If you are using an earlier version of Excel, the feature was in the "Review" ribbon (press alt+r to get to that ribbon)

I must admit, I haven't used co-authoring, so can't comment too much on that, you can find some information from Microsoft here: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b

You can still use Track Changes if you like, but you'll need to add it back to the ribbon.  See: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_excel-mso_other-mso_2016/track-changes-removed-from-review-tab/7da17fa0-ff14-45ab-bfa4-cf880ce9230b for details on how to do that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Matthew Elliff <gowrone@...> wrote:
Hi. Ive been using NVDA for several years. I have some questions about
using NVDA with Excell for my work. I need to somehow highlight a cell
so that it will show my sighted coworkers that a change has been made.
Is this done in the ribbon somewhere, or is their a key combination to
do this faster? Also, how can I have NVDA tell me what changes have
occured for formatting, colors ect? Also, how can I have focus from
NVDA follow what's on the screen? I haven't needed to know this
information until now. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance.






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: contextual help in NVDA setting panels

Gene
 

I am unaware of any feature in NVDA that will do this.  something that can be turned on and off certainly won't.  A feature like this provides information about a specific control you are on and it is far more information than you would want as a matter of routine.  I don't think that NVDA has such a feature but I may be wrong.  But it will be a command, not a general setting.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] contextual help in NVDA setting panels

how about object discription?
did you try this feature too?
i did not mention it, because it is checked by default.

On 5/30/18, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@...> wrote:
> Hello Zahra,
>
> This did not work for me at least not in the Snapshot build with the new
> unified preference panes On Windows 10, or with NVDA 2018.1 on Windows 7.
> I turned on tooltip objects and made sure that help balloon was also
> checked.
>
>
> I was looking at the Preference pane for Input Composition and did not
> receive any speech describing what the fields use was as I hit tab key to
> move focus.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>  5/29/18, 1:48 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of zahra"
> <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
>
>     hi.
>     go to the preferences and object presentation.
>     and check Report tooltips with space and press enter on okay button.
>     with enabling this option, you even dont need to press f1!
>     nvda announces discription of every item automaticly!
>     hope that help, God bless you all!
>
>     On 5/29/18, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@...> wrote:
>     > Hello,
>     >
>     > One feature I used to like about WindowEyes was the ability to type F1
> while
>     > navigating through the WindowEyes panel and having a two or three
> sentence
>     > prase describing in more details the currently focused item.
>     >
>     > Does NVDA have functionality like this that I missed?
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     >
>     > Jonathan Cohn
>     >
>     >
>
>
>     --
>     By God,
>     were I given all the seven heavens
>     with all they contain
>     in order that
>     I may disobey God
>     by depriving an ant
>     from the husk of a grain of barley,
>     I would not do it.
>     imam ali
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



Re: contextual help in NVDA setting panels

Gene
 

Tooltips only read tool tips, little bits of information that may come up when you select something.  If you select something, such as a program control or an item on the desktop, if you have tool tips set to be announced, you will hear some information.  If I want more information and I think tool tips in a program or on the desktop or in file explorer might give me more, I turn announcement on.  also, using mouse movement commands in NVDA may cause a tool tip to come up when you move the mouse to something either from the keyboard or a phhysical mouse.  But tool tips have nothing to do with what you are asking about. 
 
At times, if there are unlabeled controls or icons in a program, having tool tip announcement on can tell you important information however you move to these items. 
 
I usually have them off because I already know what I'm doing in familiar programs or interfaces such as file explorer, and I don't want unnecessary speech clutter.  But if I was working with a program where I didn't or couldn't tell what something is except for a tool tip, I would have announcement on. 
 
GeneWhat you are asking about is information such as, this is an edit field.  I don't know just what Window-eyes tells you.  Tooltips never give that kind of information. 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] contextual help in NVDA setting panels

Hello Zahra,

This did not work for me at least not in the Snapshot build with the new unified preference panes On Windows 10, or with NVDA 2018.1 on Windows 7.
I turned on tooltip objects and made sure that help balloon was also checked.


I was looking at the Preference pane for Input Composition and did not receive any speech describing what the fields use was as I hit tab key to move focus.

Thanks,

Jonathan


 5/29/18, 1:48 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of zahra" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:

    hi.
    go to the preferences and object presentation.
    and check Report tooltips with space and press enter on okay button.
    with enabling this option, you even dont need to press f1!
    nvda announces discription of every item automaticly!
    hope that help, God bless you all!
   
    On 5/29/18, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@...> wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > One feature I used to like about WindowEyes was the ability to type F1 while
    > navigating through the WindowEyes panel and having a two or three sentence
    > prase describing in more details the currently focused item.
    >
    > Does NVDA have functionality like this that I missed?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Jonathan Cohn
    >
    >
   
   
    --
    By God,
    were I given all the seven heavens
    with all they contain
    in order that
    I may disobey God
    by depriving an ant
    from the husk of a grain of barley,
    I would not do it.
    imam ali