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Re: "Unofficial" NVDA Add-Ons Repository

 

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 06:25 pm, Ian Blackburn wrote:
Safer to stick with the official add-on repository
Things have been tested there
That's not really the issue.  There exist add-ons written for software that are not a part of the official add-on repository.

I agree that the stuff at the official repository is great, but that doesn't mean that stuff that's been "privately developed" is not equally useful.
 
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Re: browse mode

Brennen Kinch
 

I am honestly not sure

On Jun 3, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

OK I’ll download it it’s in the browser in the web browser every time I hit one of the buttons instead of saying what it’s for but usually says like no checkboxes no frames instead of the element it’s actually fore
On Jun 3, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

Hi


You can obtain a copy of 2018.2 rc2 from the following link at
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-2rc2-released/

Just reading back over what the other Gene had said you did not mention
unknown or pane when in the browsers or down in the running applications
area etc. The tool in that RC version wouldive in most fixed that problem.


Reading back it said no check boxes etc that sounded like you were in
browse mode. Was this in the browser? or some other program?


From what sam said it sounds like it could be a possibility with your
anti virus raining problems there.


Gene nz

.


On 6/4/2018 11:07 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
how do i find the rc versions
On Jun 3, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your
computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing
tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you
towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think is
being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such problems
in windows installations.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m
not sure I could write them all down in the email
On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like
that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not
sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit
box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my
configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

Sent from my iPhone









Re: Sorry I missed NVDACon would love any recordings

David Moore
 

Thanks a lot, Quentin!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 8:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sorry I missed NVDACon would love any recordings

 

The recordings will all be up on the NVDACon website in the next few days (say a week or so just in case).  I know most of the organising committee are in the group here so I have no doubt they will announce as recordings are available at https://www.nvdacon.org/

 

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 9:59 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

can I get the recordings as well?

 

On 6/3/2018 4:50 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi all in the NVDA community!

I, David Moore, wanted to be a part of NVDACon so much.

However, it was my wife’s birthday on the second, and I had Bible study Friday night on the first.

I would love any recordings that anyone might have. Please right me off list, if you have any information on the future of NVDA that I missed.

You all mean so much to me.

Have a great day, all of you.

David Moore

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Re: browse mode

Brennen Kinch
 

OK I’ll download it it’s in the browser in the web browser every time I hit one of the buttons instead of saying what it’s for but usually says like no checkboxes no frames instead of the element it’s actually fore

On Jun 3, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

Hi


You can obtain a copy of 2018.2 rc2 from the following link at
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-2rc2-released/

Just reading back over what the other Gene had said you did not mention
unknown or pane when in the browsers or down in the running applications
area etc. The tool in that RC version wouldive in most fixed that problem.


Reading back it said no check boxes etc that sounded like you were in
browse mode. Was this in the browser? or some other program?


From what sam said it sounds like it could be a possibility with your
anti virus raining problems there.


Gene nz

.


On 6/4/2018 11:07 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
how do i find the rc versions
On Jun 3, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your
computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing
tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you
towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think is
being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such problems
in windows installations.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m
not sure I could write them all down in the email
On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like
that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not
sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit
box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my
configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

Sent from my iPhone








Re: browse mode

 

What version of Sophos are you running? Their beta version makes it nearly impossible to use NVDA, or any screen reader, I believe.





On 6/3/2018 9:27 PM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
The latest version of windows 10
On Jun 3, 2018, at 9:15 PM, Jackie <abletec@...> wrote:

What version of windows, Brennen?

On 6/3/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
You aren't exposed to a significant extent if you turn the software off and
take precautions while it is off.  With the amount of sites that show hacked
malware these days, you are taking a certain amount of risk but if you use
an ad blocker, that risk is greatly reduced.  I don't know if it is
eliminated.  I would think that for testing, if you go to a site where
nothing has been flagged, you should be quite safe.  If you have been using
a site regularly for weeks, months or longer and you test with this site,
while there is no guarantee, but even without an ad blocker, the odds of
something malicious being placed on the site by hacked advertising just when
you decide to test are low.

Reasonable prudence is one thing.  "Fear itself" is another.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Jackie
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 7:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


Which would essentially leave him on the net exposed to every piece of
malware known to hackerdom. I'm thinking perhaps not?

Brennen, there is an awful lot you don't tell us, ie, what version of
Windows you're using, what browser you're using, whether you've
optimized your computer for use by blind individuals, including
browser accessibility settings, and whether or not your version of
NVDA is portable or a standard installation.

I would suggest also viewing your event logs under control panel >
administrative tools, both in terms of systems & application logs as
well as your NVDA log to see if any errors are shown.

On 6/3/18, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:
This comes from a forum so has no guarantee:

Hi,

You could just stop all the Sophos services if you're a local admin.

The following command would do it:

wmic service where "caption like '%Sophos%'" call stopservice

Note: Change stopservice to startservice to start them back up.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 10:00, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:

how do i disabel it


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:

That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or
temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:

I am running sophos antivirus


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:

Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional
product?
These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...>
wrote:

yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email
but
yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it
seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed
to do


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

The symptoms described don't match the problem.  Here is the
original
description:

when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit
box
no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read.
Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being
spoken.

I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the
problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct.  I see no
reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some
indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with
the problem this procedure is supposed to fix.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it
might
be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to
your

computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to
go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come
off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration
Fixing

tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed
you

towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that
to
follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think
is
being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such
problems
in windows installations.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
<brennenkinch@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things
I’m

not sure I could write them all down in the email
On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@...>  wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and
focus
mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when
you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse
mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication
of
focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on
windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff
like
that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you
download
the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this
version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff  then we can sus some
thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m
not
sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch
<brennenkinch@...>
wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for
example
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no
edit
box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting
my

configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

Sent from my iPhone













            

          

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Re: browse mode

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


You can obtain a copy of 2018.2 rc2 from the following link at
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-2rc2-released/

Just reading back over what the other Gene had said you did not mention
unknown or pane when in the browsers or down in the running applications
area etc. The tool in that RC version wouldive in most fixed that problem.


Reading back it said no check boxes etc that sounded like you were in
browse mode. Was this in the browser? or some other program?


From what sam said it sounds like it could be a possibility with your
anti virus raining problems there.


Gene nz

.

On 6/4/2018 11:07 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
how do i find the rc versions
On Jun 3, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your
computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing
tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you
towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think is
being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such problems
in windows installations.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m
not sure I could write them all down in the email
On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like
that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not
sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit
box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my
configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

Sent from my iPhone






Re: browse mode

Brennen Kinch
 

The latest version of windows 10

On Jun 3, 2018, at 9:15 PM, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:

What version of windows, Brennen?

On 6/3/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
You aren't exposed to a significant extent if you turn the software off and
take precautions while it is off. With the amount of sites that show hacked
malware these days, you are taking a certain amount of risk but if you use
an ad blocker, that risk is greatly reduced. I don't know if it is
eliminated. I would think that for testing, if you go to a site where
nothing has been flagged, you should be quite safe. If you have been using
a site regularly for weeks, months or longer and you test with this site,
while there is no guarantee, but even without an ad blocker, the odds of
something malicious being placed on the site by hacked advertising just when
you decide to test are low.

Reasonable prudence is one thing. "Fear itself" is another.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Jackie
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 7:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


Which would essentially leave him on the net exposed to every piece of
malware known to hackerdom. I'm thinking perhaps not?

Brennen, there is an awful lot you don't tell us, ie, what version of
Windows you're using, what browser you're using, whether you've
optimized your computer for use by blind individuals, including
browser accessibility settings, and whether or not your version of
NVDA is portable or a standard installation.

I would suggest also viewing your event logs under control panel >
administrative tools, both in terms of systems & application logs as
well as your NVDA log to see if any errors are shown.

On 6/3/18, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com> wrote:
This comes from a forum so has no guarantee:

Hi,

You could just stop all the Sophos services if you're a local admin.

The following command would do it:

wmic service where "caption like '%Sophos%'" call stopservice

Note: Change stopservice to startservice to start them back up.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 10:00, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

how do i disabel it


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com> wrote:

That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or
temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

I am running sophos antivirus


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com> wrote:

Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional
product?
These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email
but
yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it
seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed
to do


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

The symptoms described don't match the problem. Here is the
original
description:

when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit
box
no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read.
Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being
spoken.

I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the
problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct. I see no
reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some
indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with
the problem this procedure is supposed to fix.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it
might
be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to
your

computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to
go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come
off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration
Fixing

tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed
you

towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that
to
follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think
is
being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such
problems
in windows installations.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things
I’m

not sure I could write them all down in the email
On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and
focus
mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when
you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse
mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication
of
focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on
windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff
like
that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you
download
the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this
version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some
thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m
not
sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for
example
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no
edit
box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting
my

configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

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Re: "Unofficial" NVDA Add-Ons Repository

Ian Blackburn
 

Safer to stick with the official add-on repository
Things have been tested there


On 3 Jun 2018, at 11:27 pm, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Lanie,

           Thanks much!   I'd far rather not "reinvent the wheel" and if someone has something they don't find in the official repository, or already in Jeff's, they'd ought to be sending them to him.

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Re: browse mode

Jackie
 

What version of windows, Brennen?

On 6/3/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
You aren't exposed to a significant extent if you turn the software off and
take precautions while it is off. With the amount of sites that show hacked
malware these days, you are taking a certain amount of risk but if you use
an ad blocker, that risk is greatly reduced. I don't know if it is
eliminated. I would think that for testing, if you go to a site where
nothing has been flagged, you should be quite safe. If you have been using
a site regularly for weeks, months or longer and you test with this site,
while there is no guarantee, but even without an ad blocker, the odds of
something malicious being placed on the site by hacked advertising just when
you decide to test are low.

Reasonable prudence is one thing. "Fear itself" is another.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Jackie
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 7:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


Which would essentially leave him on the net exposed to every piece of
malware known to hackerdom. I'm thinking perhaps not?

Brennen, there is an awful lot you don't tell us, ie, what version of
Windows you're using, what browser you're using, whether you've
optimized your computer for use by blind individuals, including
browser accessibility settings, and whether or not your version of
NVDA is portable or a standard installation.

I would suggest also viewing your event logs under control panel >
administrative tools, both in terms of systems & application logs as
well as your NVDA log to see if any errors are shown.

On 6/3/18, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com> wrote:
This comes from a forum so has no guarantee:

Hi,

You could just stop all the Sophos services if you're a local admin.

The following command would do it:

wmic service where "caption like '%Sophos%'" call stopservice

Note: Change stopservice to startservice to start them back up.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 10:00, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

how do i disabel it


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com> wrote:

That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or
temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

I am running sophos antivirus


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com> wrote:

Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional
product?
These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email
but
yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it
seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed
to do


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

The symptoms described don't match the problem. Here is the
original
description:

when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit
box
no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read.
Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being
spoken.

I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the
problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct. I see no
reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some
indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with
the problem this procedure is supposed to fix.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it
might
be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to
your

computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to
go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come
off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration
Fixing

tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed
you

towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that
to
follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think
is
being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such
problems
in windows installations.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things
I’m

not sure I could write them all down in the email
On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and
focus
mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when
you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse
mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication
of
focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on
windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff
like
that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you
download
the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this
version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some
thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m
not
sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for
example
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no
edit
box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting
my

configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

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Re: browse mode

Gene
 

You aren't exposed to a significant extent if you turn the software off and take precautions while it is off.  With the amount of sites that show hacked malware these days, you are taking a certain amount of risk but if you use an ad blocker, that risk is greatly reduced.  I don't know if it is eliminated.  I would think that for testing, if you go to a site where nothing has been flagged, you should be quite safe.  If you have been using a site regularly for weeks, months or longer and you test with this site, while there is no guarantee, but even without an ad blocker, the odds of something malicious being placed on the site by hacked advertising just when you decide to test are low. 
 
Reasonable prudence is one thing.  "Fear itself" is another.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

Which would essentially leave him on the net exposed to every piece of
malware known to hackerdom. I'm thinking perhaps not?

Brennen, there is an awful lot you don't tell us, ie, what version of
Windows you're using, what browser you're using, whether you've
optimized your computer for use by blind individuals, including
browser accessibility settings, and whether or not your version of
NVDA is portable or a standard installation.

I would suggest also viewing your event logs under control panel >
administrative tools, both in terms of systems & application logs as
well as your NVDA log to see if any errors are shown.

On 6/3/18, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:
> This comes from a forum so has no guarantee:
>
> Hi,
>
> You could just stop all the Sophos services if you're a local admin.
>
> The following command would do it:
>
> wmic service where "caption like '%Sophos%'" call stopservice
>
> Note: Change stopservice to startservice to start them back up.
>
>
>> On 4 Jun 2018, at 10:00, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:
>>
>> how do i disabel it
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or
>>> temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am running sophos antivirus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional product?
>>>>> These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email but
>>>>>> yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it
>>>>>> seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed
>>>>>> to do
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The symptoms described don't match the problem.  Here is the original
>>>>>>> description:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box
>>>>>>> no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
>>>>>>> Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read.
>>>>>>> Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being
>>>>>>> spoken.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the
>>>>>>> problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct.  I see no
>>>>>>> reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some
>>>>>>> indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with
>>>>>>> the problem this procedure is supposed to fix.
>>>>>>> Gene
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Gene New Zealand
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM
>>>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>> it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tool... then press the enter key.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
>>>>>>> broken dlls that nvda needs to use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> let us know if it does the trick.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to
>>>>>>> follow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gene nz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>>>>>> > If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think
>>>>>>> > is
>>>>>>> > being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such
>>>>>>> > problems
>>>>>>> > in windows installations.
>>>>>>> > Brian
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > bglists@...
>>>>>>> > Sent via blueyonder.
>>>>>>> > Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>>>>>> > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>>>>> > in the display name field.
>>>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
>>>>>>> > <brennenkinch@...>
>>>>>>> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > not sure I could write them all down in the email
>>>>>>> >> On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
>>>>>>> >> <hurrikennyandopo@...>  wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> hi
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus
>>>>>>> >> mode
>>>>>>> >> when you go between those modes?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when
>>>>>>> >> you are
>>>>>>> >> out of focus mode you hear another sound.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
>>>>>>> >> settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of
>>>>>>> >> focus
>>>>>>> >> and browse modes
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> then save your settings.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on
>>>>>>> >> windows
>>>>>>> >> and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff
>>>>>>> >> like
>>>>>>> >> that?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download
>>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>>> >> latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this
>>>>>>> >> version of
>>>>>>> >> nvda that might fix it.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> If you are not really getting that stuff  then we can sus some
>>>>>>> >> thing else
>>>>>>> >> out and maybe narrow it a little.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Gene nz
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
>>>>>>> >>> no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
>>>>>>> >>> looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m
>>>>>>> >>> not
>>>>>>> >>> sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
>>>>>>> >>> browsers as well
>>>>>>> >>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch
>>>>>>> >>>> <brennenkinch@...>
>>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
>>>>>>> >>>> versions of NVDA
>>>>>>> >>>> particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for
>>>>>>> >>>> example
>>>>>>> >>>> when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no
>>>>>>> >>>> edit
>>>>>>> >>>> box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
>>>>>>> >>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> configurations of no luck can anyone please help me
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>


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Re: browse mode

Brennen Kinch
 

well let me see if I can try to answer all these at once I am running a standard version of NVDA I don’t know what you mean about accessibility settings for Internet not sure exactly what that means I’ve tried this with all browsers with the same result so edge internet explore and if I checked the air logs I’m not sure I would know what I’m looking for chrome

On Jun 3, 2018, at 8:56 PM, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:

Which would essentially leave him on the net exposed to every piece of
malware known to hackerdom. I'm thinking perhaps not?

Brennen, there is an awful lot you don't tell us, ie, what version of
Windows you're using, what browser you're using, whether you've
optimized your computer for use by blind individuals, including
browser accessibility settings, and whether or not your version of
NVDA is portable or a standard installation.

I would suggest also viewing your event logs under control panel >
administrative tools, both in terms of systems & application logs as
well as your NVDA log to see if any errors are shown.

On 6/3/18, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com> wrote:
This comes from a forum so has no guarantee:

Hi,

You could just stop all the Sophos services if you're a local admin.

The following command would do it:

wmic service where "caption like '%Sophos%'" call stopservice

Note: Change stopservice to startservice to start them back up.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 10:00, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

how do i disabel it


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com> wrote:

That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or
temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

I am running sophos antivirus


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com> wrote:

Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional product?
These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email but
yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it
seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed
to do


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

The symptoms described don't match the problem. Here is the original
description:

when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box
no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read.
Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being
spoken.

I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the
problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct. I see no
reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some
indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with
the problem this procedure is supposed to fix.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might
be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your

computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to
go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come
off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing

tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you

towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to
follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think
is
being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such
problems
in windows installations.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m

not sure I could write them all down in the email
On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus
mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when
you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of
focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on
windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff
like
that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download
the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this
version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some
thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m
not
sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for
example
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no
edit
box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my

configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

Sent from my iPhone









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Re: NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available

lauracornwell
 

Hey there, to all I am looking for a link that we were talking about today @ NVdACon could someone send me the Irc links please?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 7:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available

Thank you - the add-on may not have anything to do with it, but testing with it disabled is a good starting point.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:59 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io <mailto:jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> > wrote:


Yes, the problem is similar to several of those reported in GitHub, except that I’m testing with a VFO/Freedom Scientific Focus display, and the display is successfully detected after resuming from laptop suspend – it’s just lost during the transition from the log-in dialogue to the desktop.



I think the problem occurred before I installed the BrailleExtender add-on, but I’ll retest with the add-on disabled.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 7:03 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available





There's a couple of issues on GitHub on that - not sure if they are Braille display brand specific, but could you please have a look and let me know if any of those match what you are experiencing? Just so we can make sure your issues is recorded. https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+braille+wake <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+braille+wake>



Also you mentioned using the Braille-Extender add-on - I wanted to clarify - does the issue happen with that add-on enabled specifically? IE if you disable the add-on does your display wake when the computer does?



Regards



Quentin.



On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 5:20 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io <mailto:jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> > wrote:

Having just upgraded a machine to 2018.2-rc2, everything seems to be stable so far, including the Braille-Extender add-on. I’m still experiencing the issue with the braille display not being active after returning to the desktop from laptop suspend (it’s properly re-activated during the log-in dialogue, but lost upon returning to the desktop). I reported the details in another thread.



However, I was seeing that problem under 2018.1, so it isn’t a regression in 2018.2.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 7:00 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available



Thanks Felix!



Also, for those used to getting to the settings dialogs with the shortcut keys (NVDA+control+k to get to keyboard, NVDA+control+d for document formatting etc), those keys all still work. It's just if you go via the NVDA menu, the key sequence has slightly changed.



On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:53 PM, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com <mailto:constantlyvariable@gmail.com> > wrote:

Wow! Congrats on an excellent RC from my point of view.

Just noticed that the preferences dialogs have been completely redesigned as a single dialog with categories. That'll take some getting used to, but I think the move is rational.

Best,

Felix



2018-06-01 2:31 GMT+02:00 Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org <mailto:quentin@nvaccess.org> >:

No problem at all - and a much easier fix than if we had broken speech in the new version :)



On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@comcast.net <mailto:gmtravel@comcast.net> > wrote:

Hi Quentin,



Boy, do I feel stupid. I installed 1803.1 rc2 by mistake. I installed the correct version and all is working as it should. Thanks,



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available



Hi Gary,



By "Verra", do you mean Microsoft Zira (and if so, SAPI 5 or OneCore?) or do you know which synthesizer or language she comes with?

If a OneCore voice, we released NVDA 2018.1.1 specifically to address the OneCore voices from sounding like chipmunks in the Windows 10 April update, so if anything updating from anything to NVDA 2018.2rc2 should be more likely to fix that issue than cause it. What do you have the rate and pitch etc set to, and what do you have the speed set to in Windows speech settings?



I have been using eSpeak lately, but I changed to OneCore and SAPI 5 and I don't notice anything odd about Zira myself (happy to admit, that could just be "myself")



Regards



Quentin.



On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:51 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@comcast.net <mailto:gmtravel@comcast.net> > wrote:

Hi Quentin,



I just installed rc2. I j\ use verra now she sounds like she is on helium. What can I do to get it back the way I like it? Thanks for any help.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 7:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available



Hi everyone,



Well I was a little slow to post about NVDA 2018.2rc1, and before I had a chance, rc2 is out!



This is a release candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the final 2018.2 release.



Highlights of this release include Support for tables in Kindle for PC, support for HumanWare BrailleNote Touch and BI14 Braille displays, Improvements to both Onecore and Sapi5 speech synthesizers, improvements in Microsoft Outlook and much more.



You can download NVDA 2018.2rc2 here: https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2018.2rc2 <https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2018.2rc2>



Find the full list of what's new available here: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2018.2rc2/nvda_2018.2rc2_changes.html <https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2018.2rc2/nvda_2018.2rc2_changes.html>



Kind regards



Quentin.

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Re: browse mode

Jackie
 

Which would essentially leave him on the net exposed to every piece of
malware known to hackerdom. I'm thinking perhaps not?

Brennen, there is an awful lot you don't tell us, ie, what version of
Windows you're using, what browser you're using, whether you've
optimized your computer for use by blind individuals, including
browser accessibility settings, and whether or not your version of
NVDA is portable or a standard installation.

I would suggest also viewing your event logs under control panel >
administrative tools, both in terms of systems & application logs as
well as your NVDA log to see if any errors are shown.

On 6/3/18, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com> wrote:
This comes from a forum so has no guarantee:

Hi,

You could just stop all the Sophos services if you're a local admin.

The following command would do it:

wmic service where "caption like '%Sophos%'" call stopservice

Note: Change stopservice to startservice to start them back up.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 10:00, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

how do i disabel it


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com> wrote:

That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or
temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

I am running sophos antivirus


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@me.com> wrote:

Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional product?
These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email but
yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it
seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed
to do


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

The symptoms described don't match the problem. Here is the original
description:

when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box
no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read.
Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being
spoken.

I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the
problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct. I see no
reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some
indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with
the problem this procedure is supposed to fix.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might
be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your

computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to
go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come
off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing

tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you

towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to
follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think
is
being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such
problems
in windows installations.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m

not sure I could write them all down in the email
On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus
mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when
you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of
focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on
windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff
like
that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download
the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this
version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some
thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m
not
sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for
example
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no
edit
box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my

configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

Sent from my iPhone








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Re: browse mode

Gene
 

But from your deswcription, it appears you can read text and do things on the page as long as you don't try to do them using short cut commands.  Is that correct?  Besides short cut commands are there things that aren't working properly?

Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email but yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed to do


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

The symptoms described don't match the problem.  Here is the original description:
 
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read.  Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being spoken. 
 
I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct.  I see no reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with the problem this procedure is supposed to fix.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your
computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing
tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you
towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think is
> being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such problems
> in windows installations.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
> <brennenkinch@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode
>
>
> can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m
> not sure I could write them all down in the email
>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
>> <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
>>
>> hi
>>
>>
>> Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode
>> when you go between those modes?
>>
>>
>> if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are
>> out of focus mode you hear another sound.
>>
>>
>> if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
>> settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus
>> and browse modes
>>
>> then save your settings.
>>
>>
>> If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?
>>
>>
>> Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows
>> and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like
>> that?
>>
>>
>> By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the
>> latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of
>> nvda that might fix it.
>>
>>
>> If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else
>> out and maybe narrow it a little.
>>
>>
>> Gene nz
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
>>> no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
>>> looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not
>>> sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
>>> browsers as well
>>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
>>>> versions of NVDA
>>>> particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example
>>>> when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit
>>>> box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
>>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my
>>>> configurations of no luck can anyone please help me
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Sorry I missed NVDACon would love any recordings

Quentin Christensen
 

The recordings will all be up on the NVDACon website in the next few days (say a week or so just in case).  I know most of the organising committee are in the group here so I have no doubt they will announce as recordings are available at https://www.nvdacon.org/

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 9:59 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

can I get the recordings as well?


On 6/3/2018 4:50 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi all in the NVDA community!

I, David Moore, wanted to be a part of NVDACon so much.

However, it was my wife’s birthday on the second, and I had Bible study Friday night on the first.

I would love any recordings that anyone might have. Please right me off list, if you have any information on the future of NVDA that I missed.

You all mean so much to me.

Have a great day, all of you.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


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Re: NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Thank you - the add-on may not have anything to do with it, but testing with it disabled is a good starting point.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:59 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason@...> wrote:

Yes, the problem is similar to several of those reported in GitHub, except that I’m testing with a VFO/Freedom Scientific Focus display, and the display is successfully detected after resuming from laptop suspend – it’s just lost during the transition from the log-in dialogue to the desktop.

 

I think the problem occurred before I installed the BrailleExtender add-on, but I’ll retest with the add-on disabled.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 7:03 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available

 

There's a couple of issues on GitHub on that - not sure if they are Braille display brand specific, but could you please have a look and let me know if any of those match what you are experiencing?  Just so we can make sure your issues is recorded.  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+braille+wake

 

Also you mentioned using the Braille-Extender add-on - I wanted to clarify - does the issue happen with that add-on enabled specifically?  IE if you disable the add-on does your display wake when the computer does?

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 5:20 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason@...> wrote:

Having just upgraded a machine to 2018.2-rc2, everything seems to be stable so far, including the Braille-Extender add-on. I’m still experiencing the issue with the braille display not being active after returning to the desktop from laptop suspend (it’s properly re-activated during the log-in dialogue, but lost upon returning to the desktop). I reported the details in another thread.

 

However, I was seeing that problem under 2018.1, so it isn’t a regression in 2018.2.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 7:00 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available

 

Thanks Felix!

 

Also, for those used to getting to the settings dialogs with the shortcut keys (NVDA+control+k to get to keyboard, NVDA+control+d for document formatting etc), those keys all still work.  It's just if you go via the NVDA menu, the key sequence has slightly changed.

 

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:53 PM, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...> wrote:

Wow! Congrats on an excellent RC from my point of view.

Just noticed that the preferences dialogs have been completely redesigned as a single dialog with categories. That'll take some getting used to, but I think the move is rational.

Best,

Felix

 

2018-06-01 2:31 GMT+02:00 Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>:

No problem at all - and a much easier fix than if we had broken speech in the new version :)

 

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

 

Boy, do I feel stupid.  I installed 1803.1 rc2 by mistake.  I installed the correct version and all is working as it should.  Thanks,  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available

 

Hi Gary,

 

By "Verra", do you mean Microsoft Zira (and if so, SAPI 5 or OneCore?) or do you know which synthesizer or language she comes with?

If a OneCore voice, we released NVDA 2018.1.1 specifically to address the OneCore voices from sounding like chipmunks in the Windows 10 April update, so if anything updating from anything to NVDA 2018.2rc2 should be more likely to fix that issue than cause it.  What do you have the rate and pitch etc set to, and what do you have the speed set to in Windows speech settings?

 

I have been using eSpeak lately, but I changed to OneCore and SAPI 5 and I don't notice anything odd about Zira myself (happy to admit, that could just be "myself")

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:51 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

 

I just installed rc2.  I j\ use verra now she sounds like she is on helium.  What can I do to get it back the way I like it?  Thanks for any help.  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 7:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available

 

Hi everyone,

 

Well I was a little slow to post about NVDA 2018.2rc1, and before I had a chance, rc2 is out!

 

This is a release candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the final 2018.2 release.

 

Highlights of this release include Support for tables in Kindle for PC, support for HumanWare BrailleNote Touch and BI14 Braille displays, Improvements to both Onecore and Sapi5 speech synthesizers, improvements in Microsoft Outlook and much more.

 

You can download NVDA 2018.2rc2 here: https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2018.2rc2

 

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

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Re: browse mode

Sam Taylor
 

This comes from a forum so has no guarantee: 

Hi,

You could just stop all the Sophos services if you're a local admin.

The following command would do it:

wmic service where "caption like '%Sophos%'" call stopservice

Note: Change stopservice to startservice to start them back up.


On 4 Jun 2018, at 10:00, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:

how do i disabel it


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:

That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated. 


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:

I am running sophos antivirus


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:

Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional product? These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA. 


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:

yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email but yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed to do


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

The symptoms described don't match the problem.  Here is the original description:
 
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read.  Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being spoken. 
 
I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct.  I see no reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with the problem this procedure is supposed to fix.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your
computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing
tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you
towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think is
> being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such problems
> in windows installations.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
> <brennenkinch@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode
>
>
> can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m
> not sure I could write them all down in the email
>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
>> <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
>>
>> hi
>>
>>
>> Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode
>> when you go between those modes?
>>
>>
>> if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are
>> out of focus mode you hear another sound.
>>
>>
>> if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
>> settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus
>> and browse modes
>>
>> then save your settings.
>>
>>
>> If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?
>>
>>
>> Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows
>> and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like
>> that?
>>
>>
>> By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the
>> latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of
>> nvda that might fix it.
>>
>>
>> If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else
>> out and maybe narrow it a little.
>>
>>
>> Gene nz
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
>>> no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
>>> looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not
>>> sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
>>> browsers as well
>>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
>>>> versions of NVDA
>>>> particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example
>>>> when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit
>>>> box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
>>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my
>>>> configurations of no luck can anyone please help me
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: browse mode

Brennen Kinch
 

how do i disabel it


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:

That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated. 


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:

I am running sophos antivirus


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:

Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional product? These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA. 


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:

yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email but yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed to do


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

The symptoms described don't match the problem.  Here is the original description:
 
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read.  Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being spoken. 
 
I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct.  I see no reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with the problem this procedure is supposed to fix.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your
computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing
tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you
towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think is
> being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such problems
> in windows installations.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
> <brennenkinch@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode
>
>
> can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m
> not sure I could write them all down in the email
>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
>> <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
>>
>> hi
>>
>>
>> Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode
>> when you go between those modes?
>>
>>
>> if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are
>> out of focus mode you hear another sound.
>>
>>
>> if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
>> settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus
>> and browse modes
>>
>> then save your settings.
>>
>>
>> If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?
>>
>>
>> Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows
>> and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like
>> that?
>>
>>
>> By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the
>> latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of
>> nvda that might fix it.
>>
>>
>> If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else
>> out and maybe narrow it a little.
>>
>>
>> Gene nz
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
>>> no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
>>> looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not
>>> sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
>>> browsers as well
>>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
>>>> versions of NVDA
>>>> particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example
>>>> when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit
>>>> box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
>>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my
>>>> configurations of no luck can anyone please help me
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Sorry I missed NVDACon would love any recordings

 

can I get the recordings as well?


On 6/3/2018 4:50 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi all in the NVDA community!

I, David Moore, wanted to be a part of NVDACon so much.

However, it was my wife’s birthday on the second, and I had Bible study Friday night on the first.

I would love any recordings that anyone might have. Please right me off list, if you have any information on the future of NVDA that I missed.

You all mean so much to me.

Have a great day, all of you.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


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Re: browse mode

Sam Taylor
 

That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated. 


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:

I am running sophos antivirus


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:

Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional product? These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA. 


On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:

yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email but yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed to do


On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

The symptoms described don't match the problem.  Here is the original description:
 
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read.  Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being spoken. 
 
I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct.  I see no reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with the problem this procedure is supposed to fix.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your
computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing
tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you
towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think is
> being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such problems
> in windows installations.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
> <brennenkinch@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode
>
>
> can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m
> not sure I could write them all down in the email
>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
>> <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
>>
>> hi
>>
>>
>> Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode
>> when you go between those modes?
>>
>>
>> if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are
>> out of focus mode you hear another sound.
>>
>>
>> if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
>> settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus
>> and browse modes
>>
>> then save your settings.
>>
>>
>> If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?
>>
>>
>> Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows
>> and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like
>> that?
>>
>>
>> By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the
>> latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of
>> nvda that might fix it.
>>
>>
>> If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else
>> out and maybe narrow it a little.
>>
>>
>> Gene nz
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
>>> no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
>>> looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not
>>> sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
>>> browsers as well
>>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
>>>> versions of NVDA
>>>> particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example
>>>> when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit
>>>> box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
>>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my
>>>> configurations of no luck can anyone please help me
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>