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Re: Slack accessibility status?
Sylvie Duchateau
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I use Slack every day for my work with colleagues. The telephone app works fine, but it is out of topic of this list. I did not manage to use the desktop application that was not accessible when I tested it. I use it now with Chrome, because Firefox used to be very slow. I installed a script developed by NV-Access working with the script manager tampermonkey and it works fine. Here is the link for the script: https://github.com/nvaccess/axSGrease You can set slack to not announce all notifications. the script manager, tampermonkey can be found here: http://tampermonkey.net/ I hope this helps. Best Sylvie Le 02/06/2018 à 18:55, Robert Kingett a écrit :
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Joe Paton
Morning all,
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Re: NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available
Felix G.
Hello, could this be related to the fact that two instances of NVDA are involved, one for reading the secure desktop, the other for reading the user context? What if the former does not relinquish control of the device for some odd reason? Best, Felix 2018-06-04 2:45 GMT+02:00 lauracornwell <lauracornwell1@...>: Hey there, to all I am looking for a link that we were talking about today @ NVdACon could someone send me the Irc links please? |
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Re: "Unofficial" NVDA Add-Ons Repository
Vlad Dragomir
I totally agree with you Brian! Besides, this obsession about safety isn't always a great thing. I'm not saying that we should go out and look for trouble. However, non-official rarely means dangerous. I've been using computers since 2001, and benefited so much from taking risks and trying new things. Of course accidents happen sometimes,no one is 100 % safe from anything. But if you start by believing that every unknown person is a killer, we might as well spend the rest of our lives terrified in a buddhist monastry up in the mountains. And even that might not be safe actually.
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Re: browse mode
Gene
Modern computers and even going back to XP didn't
need optimization to function properly with screen-readers. The symptoms
described have nothing to do with whether anything is optomized.
Optomizing may make the computer work more efficiently with a screen-reader or
it may do something like stop a crashing problem if the file pane in file
Explorer is on. Or it may make something like a file and folder list
appear in a screen-reader friendly format. But no optimization nor lack of
it would cause or stop the current problem. These are needless
complications.
I don't know what the solution to the problem is
but none of the things you discuss will solve it.
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malware known to hackerdom. I'm thinking perhaps not? Brennen, there is an awful lot you don't tell us, ie, what version of Windows you're using, what browser you're using, whether you've optimized your computer for use by blind individuals, including browser accessibility settings, and whether or not your version of NVDA is portable or a standard installation. I would suggest also viewing your event logs under control panel > administrative tools, both in terms of systems & application logs as well as your NVDA log to see if any errors are shown. On 6/3/18, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote: > This comes from a forum so has no guarantee: > > Hi, > > You could just stop all the Sophos services if you're a local admin. > > The following command would do it: > > wmic service where "caption like '%Sophos%'" call stopservice > > Note: Change stopservice to startservice to start them back up. > > >> On 4 Jun 2018, at 10:00, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote: >> >> how do i disabel it >> >> >>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote: >>> >>> That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or >>> temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated. >>> >>> >>>> On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am running sophos antivirus >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional product? >>>>> These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email but >>>>>> yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it >>>>>> seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed >>>>>> to do >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The symptoms described don't match the problem. Here is the original >>>>>>> description: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box >>>>>>> no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings >>>>>>> Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read. >>>>>>> Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being >>>>>>> spoken. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the >>>>>>> problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct. I see no >>>>>>> reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some >>>>>>> indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with >>>>>>> the problem this procedure is supposed to fix. >>>>>>> Gene >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Gene New Zealand >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM >>>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your >>>>>>> >>>>>>> computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to >>>>>>> go >>>>>>> into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come >>>>>>> off >>>>>>> it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> tool... then press the enter key. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not sure after that but after the process should register any >>>>>>> broken dlls that nvda needs to use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> let us know if it does the trick. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to >>>>>>> follow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gene nz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: >>>>>>> > If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think >>>>>>> > is >>>>>>> > being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such >>>>>>> > problems >>>>>>> > in windows installations. >>>>>>> > Brian >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > bglists@... >>>>>>> > Sent via blueyonder. >>>>>>> > Please address personal E-mail to:- >>>>>>> > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>>>>>> > in the display name field. >>>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch" >>>>>>> > <brennenkinch@...> >>>>>>> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM >>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > not sure I could write them all down in the email >>>>>>> >> On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand >>>>>>> >> <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> hi >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus >>>>>>> >> mode >>>>>>> >> when you go between those modes? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when >>>>>>> >> you are >>>>>>> >> out of focus mode you hear another sound. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode >>>>>>> >> settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of >>>>>>> >> focus >>>>>>> >> and browse modes >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> then save your settings. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on >>>>>>> >> windows >>>>>>> >> and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff >>>>>>> >> like >>>>>>> >> that? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download >>>>>>> >> the >>>>>>> >> latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this >>>>>>> >> version of >>>>>>> >> nvda that might fix it. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some >>>>>>> >> thing else >>>>>>> >> out and maybe narrow it a little. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Gene nz >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>> On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote: >>>>>>> >>> no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it >>>>>>> >>> looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m >>>>>>> >>> not >>>>>>> >>> sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web >>>>>>> >>> browsers as well >>>>>>> >>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch >>>>>>> >>>> <brennenkinch@...> >>>>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest >>>>>>> >>>> versions of NVDA >>>>>>> >>>> particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for >>>>>>> >>>> example >>>>>>> >>>> when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no >>>>>>> >>>> edit >>>>>>> >>>> box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings >>>>>>> >>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> configurations of no luck can anyone please help me >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> > -- Remember! 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Re: Sorry I missed NVDACon would love any recordings
Michael Chopra
Hi. The conference is listed in the Past conferences section on the
website already. This is where recordings will be made available.
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Re: browse mode
Hi Brennen and others,
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Based on messages from the list archive, this is not a COM registration problem. As Sam pointed out, this may have to do with key mapping problem where you press a first letter key and Windows interprets it as something else. Can you try the following for me please: 1. Revert to NVDA 2018.1 unless you've installed RC already. 2. Open NVDA menu (NVDA key+N), then open Tools, then select "manage add-ons". 3. See if you have any add-ons. If this is a fresh install, add-ons list will be empty, so no need to go to step 4. 4. If you have one or more add-ons, close Add-ons Manager and restart NVDA in safe mode (add-ons disabled). To do this, press NVDA+Q, then select "restart with add-ons disabled". If this solves the problem, proceed to step 5, otherwise try what Sam T suggests. 5. With NVDA restarted with add-ons turned off, go to NVDA menu/Tools/manage add-ons. 6. From add-ons list, go through each add-on, enable the item (Alt+E), then close and restart. Repeat this step for all add-ons (one by one) until the problem resurfaces. 7. In case the problem comes back after enabling a specific add-on, please write down the name of the add-on so it can be reported to the add-ons community ASAP. In case the problem is not resolved, please do: 1. Go to NVDA general settings (NVDA menu/Preferences/General for 2018.1 and earlier, NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/General in 2018.2, or press Control+NVDA+G). 2. Locate "logging level" combo box and set it to "debug" and press Enter to save changes. 3. Use the browser and try issuing some first letter keys. 4. After this, press NVDA+F1 and copy everything from the window that appears and send it to info@... as an email message. Be sure to describe what's going on and paste the log content. 5. Return to general settings and set log level to info. In step 4, I said it should be sent to another email address because setting log level to debug causes everything you type and NVDA speaks to be logged for the world to see, and for many, this is a big concern. Hope this helps. Cheers, Joseph P.S. For others: I'll teach you what I just did as part of a three-part Beginning NVDA Tech Support training later in June. -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brennen Kinch Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode I am honestly not sure On Jun 3, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote: |
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Re: "Unofficial" NVDA Add-Ons Repository
Hi, The position of the NVDA add-ons community is that we encourage add-on authors to submit add-ons for review so they can be featured on the community add-ons website. This allows new authors to be recognized for their contributions and for folks to find add-ons more easily, and eventually, allow add-on updates from official sources (for now). In the past, the review process for add-ons was strict. This was greatly relaxed in 2016 to check for basics only, with an option for authors to request more stringent reviews on a case by case basis. I think this may have caused authors to not submit add-ons in the past, but that’s slowly changing. There are two more reasons (more of a technical nature) that submitting add-ons for review are encouraged (and I will go around the add-ons community to help out once more):
There is a third reason why we encourage reviews: NVDA Core code compatibility. Some add-on authors, including I, have declared that due to various reasons, latest add-on releases (current and future) will require NVDA 2018.2 and later for optimal functionality, and usually add-on reviewers catch this quite early. Also, there will come a day when add-ons that declare themselves incompatible with a certain minimum version of NVDA will not be loaded by NVDA itself (unless overridden by developers). These changes are first applied to add-ons on official community add-ons repo, and then cascades to others. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 06:25 pm, Ian Blackburn wrote:
That's not really the issue. There exist add-ons written for software that are not a part of the official add-on repository. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: "Unofficial" NVDA Add-Ons Repository
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 06:25 pm, Ian Blackburn wrote:
Safer to stick with the official add-on repositoryThat's not really the issue. There exist add-ons written for software that are not a part of the official add-on repository. I agree that the stuff at the official repository is great, but that doesn't mean that stuff that's been "privately developed" is not equally useful. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: browse mode
Brennen Kinch
I am honestly not sure
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Re: Sorry I missed NVDACon would love any recordings
David Moore
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Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 8:39 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Sorry I missed NVDACon would love any recordings
The recordings will all be up on the NVDACon website in the next few days (say a week or so just in case). I know most of the organising committee are in the group here so I have no doubt they will announce as recordings are available at https://www.nvdacon.org/
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 9:59 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
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Re: browse mode
Brennen Kinch
OK I’ll download it it’s in the browser in the web browser every time I hit one of the buttons instead of saying what it’s for but usually says like no checkboxes no frames instead of the element it’s actually fore
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Re: browse mode
What version of Sophos are you running? Their beta version makes it nearly impossible to use NVDA, or any screen reader, I believe.
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The latest version of windows 10On Jun 3, 2018, at 9:15 PM, Jackie <abletec@...> wrote: What version of windows, Brennen?On 6/3/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: You aren't exposed to a significant extent if you turn the software off and take precautions while it is off. With the amount of sites that show hacked malware these days, you are taking a certain amount of risk but if you use an ad blocker, that risk is greatly reduced. I don't know if it is eliminated. I would think that for testing, if you go to a site where nothing has been flagged, you should be quite safe. If you have been using a site regularly for weeks, months or longer and you test with this site, while there is no guarantee, but even without an ad blocker, the odds of something malicious being placed on the site by hacked advertising just when you decide to test are low. Reasonable prudence is one thing. "Fear itself" is another. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 7:56 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode Which would essentially leave him on the net exposed to every piece of malware known to hackerdom. I'm thinking perhaps not? Brennen, there is an awful lot you don't tell us, ie, what version of Windows you're using, what browser you're using, whether you've optimized your computer for use by blind individuals, including browser accessibility settings, and whether or not your version of NVDA is portable or a standard installation. I would suggest also viewing your event logs under control panel > administrative tools, both in terms of systems & application logs as well as your NVDA log to see if any errors are shown.On 6/3/18, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote: This comes from a forum so has no guarantee: Hi, You could just stop all the Sophos services if you're a local admin. The following command would do it: wmic service where "caption like '%Sophos%'" call stopservice Note: Change stopservice to startservice to start them back up.On 4 Jun 2018, at 10:00, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote: how do i disabel itOn Jun 3, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote: That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated.On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote: I am running sophos antivirusOn Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote: Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional product? These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA.On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote: yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email but yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed to doOn Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: The symptoms described don't match the problem. Here is the original description: when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read. Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being spoken. I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct. I see no reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with the problem this procedure is supposed to fix. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene New Zealand Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might be grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to go into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come off it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing tool... then press the enter key. I am not sure after that but after the process should register any broken dlls that nvda needs to use. let us know if it does the trick. By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to follow. Gene nzOn 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think is being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such problems in windows installations. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch" <brennenkinch@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m not sure I could write them all down in the emailOn Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote: hi Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode when you go between those modes? if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are out of focus mode you hear another sound. if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus and browse modes then save your settings. If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane? Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like that? By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of nvda that might fix it. If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else out and maybe narrow it a little. Gene nzOn 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote: no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web browsers as wellOn Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote: hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest versions of NVDA particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my configurations of no luck can anyone please help me Sent from my iPhone-- Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe Jackie McBride Helping Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time https://brighter-vision.com-- Remember! 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You can obtain a copy of 2018.2 rc2 from the following link at https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-2rc2-released/ Just reading back over what the other Gene had said you did not mention unknown or pane when in the browsers or down in the running applications area etc. The tool in that RC version wouldive in most fixed that problem. Reading back it said no check boxes etc that sounded like you were in browse mode. Was this in the browser? or some other program? From what sam said it sounds like it could be a possibility with your anti virus raining problems there. Gene nz . On 6/4/2018 11:07 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
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Ian Blackburn
Safer to stick with the official add-on repository
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Lanie, Thanks much! I'd far rather not "reinvent the wheel" and if someone has something they don't find in the official repository, or already in Jeff's, they'd ought to be sending them to him. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Gene
You aren't exposed to a significant extent if you
turn the software off and take precautions while it is off. With the
amount of sites that show hacked malware these days, you are taking a certain
amount of risk but if you use an ad blocker, that risk is greatly reduced.
I don't know if it is eliminated. I would think that for testing, if you
go to a site where nothing has been flagged, you should be quite safe. If
you have been using a site regularly for weeks, months or longer and you test
with this site, while there is no guarantee, but even without an ad blocker, the
odds of something malicious being placed on the site by hacked advertising just
when you decide to test are low.
Reasonable prudence is one thing. "Fear
itself" is another.
Gene
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malware known to hackerdom. I'm thinking perhaps not? Brennen, there is an awful lot you don't tell us, ie, what version of Windows you're using, what browser you're using, whether you've optimized your computer for use by blind individuals, including browser accessibility settings, and whether or not your version of NVDA is portable or a standard installation. I would suggest also viewing your event logs under control panel > administrative tools, both in terms of systems & application logs as well as your NVDA log to see if any errors are shown. On 6/3/18, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote: > This comes from a forum so has no guarantee: > > Hi, > > You could just stop all the Sophos services if you're a local admin. > > The following command would do it: > > wmic service where "caption like '%Sophos%'" call stopservice > > Note: Change stopservice to startservice to start them back up. > > >> On 4 Jun 2018, at 10:00, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote: >> >> how do i disabel it >> >> >>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote: >>> >>> That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or >>> temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated. >>> >>> >>>> On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am running sophos antivirus >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional product? >>>>> These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email but >>>>>> yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it >>>>>> seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed >>>>>> to do >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The symptoms described don't match the problem. Here is the original >>>>>>> description: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box >>>>>>> no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings >>>>>>> Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read. >>>>>>> Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being >>>>>>> spoken. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the >>>>>>> problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct. I see no >>>>>>> reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some >>>>>>> indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with >>>>>>> the problem this procedure is supposed to fix. >>>>>>> Gene >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Gene New Zealand >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM >>>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your >>>>>>> >>>>>>> computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to >>>>>>> go >>>>>>> into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come >>>>>>> off >>>>>>> it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> tool... then press the enter key. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not sure after that but after the process should register any >>>>>>> broken dlls that nvda needs to use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> let us know if it does the trick. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to >>>>>>> follow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gene nz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: >>>>>>> > If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think >>>>>>> > is >>>>>>> > being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such >>>>>>> > problems >>>>>>> > in windows installations. >>>>>>> > Brian >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > bglists@... >>>>>>> > Sent via blueyonder. >>>>>>> > Please address personal E-mail to:- >>>>>>> > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>>>>>> > in the display name field. >>>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch" >>>>>>> > <brennenkinch@...> >>>>>>> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM >>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > not sure I could write them all down in the email >>>>>>> >> On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand >>>>>>> >> <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> hi >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus >>>>>>> >> mode >>>>>>> >> when you go between those modes? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when >>>>>>> >> you are >>>>>>> >> out of focus mode you hear another sound. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode >>>>>>> >> settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of >>>>>>> >> focus >>>>>>> >> and browse modes >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> then save your settings. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on >>>>>>> >> windows >>>>>>> >> and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff >>>>>>> >> like >>>>>>> >> that? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download >>>>>>> >> the >>>>>>> >> latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this >>>>>>> >> version of >>>>>>> >> nvda that might fix it. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some >>>>>>> >> thing else >>>>>>> >> out and maybe narrow it a little. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Gene nz >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>> On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote: >>>>>>> >>> no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it >>>>>>> >>> looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m >>>>>>> >>> not >>>>>>> >>> sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web >>>>>>> >>> browsers as well >>>>>>> >>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch >>>>>>> >>>> <brennenkinch@...> >>>>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest >>>>>>> >>>> versions of NVDA >>>>>>> >>>> particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for >>>>>>> >>>> example >>>>>>> >>>> when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no >>>>>>> >>>> edit >>>>>>> >>>> box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings >>>>>>> >>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> configurations of no luck can anyone please help me >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> > -- Remember! 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Re: browse mode
Brennen Kinch
well let me see if I can try to answer all these at once I am running a standard version of NVDA I don’t know what you mean about accessibility settings for Internet not sure exactly what that means I’ve tried this with all browsers with the same result so edge internet explore and if I checked the air logs I’m not sure I would know what I’m looking for chrome
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Re: NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available
lauracornwell <lauracornwell1@...>
Hey there, to all I am looking for a link that we were talking about today @ NVdACon could someone send me the Irc links please?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 7:34 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available Thank you - the add-on may not have anything to do with it, but testing with it disabled is a good starting point. On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:59 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason@... <mailto:jason@...> > wrote: Yes, the problem is similar to several of those reported in GitHub, except that I’m testing with a VFO/Freedom Scientific Focus display, and the display is successfully detected after resuming from laptop suspend – it’s just lost during the transition from the log-in dialogue to the desktop. I think the problem occurred before I installed the BrailleExtender add-on, but I’ll retest with the add-on disabled. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 7:03 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available There's a couple of issues on GitHub on that - not sure if they are Braille display brand specific, but could you please have a look and let me know if any of those match what you are experiencing? Just so we can make sure your issues is recorded. https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+braille+wake <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+braille+wake> Also you mentioned using the Braille-Extender add-on - I wanted to clarify - does the issue happen with that add-on enabled specifically? IE if you disable the add-on does your display wake when the computer does? Regards Quentin. On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 5:20 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason@... <mailto:jason@...> > wrote: Having just upgraded a machine to 2018.2-rc2, everything seems to be stable so far, including the Braille-Extender add-on. I’m still experiencing the issue with the braille display not being active after returning to the desktop from laptop suspend (it’s properly re-activated during the log-in dialogue, but lost upon returning to the desktop). I reported the details in another thread. However, I was seeing that problem under 2018.1, so it isn’t a regression in 2018.2. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 7:00 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available Thanks Felix! Also, for those used to getting to the settings dialogs with the shortcut keys (NVDA+control+k to get to keyboard, NVDA+control+d for document formatting etc), those keys all still work. It's just if you go via the NVDA menu, the key sequence has slightly changed. On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:53 PM, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@... <mailto:constantlyvariable@...> > wrote: Wow! Congrats on an excellent RC from my point of view. Just noticed that the preferences dialogs have been completely redesigned as a single dialog with categories. That'll take some getting used to, but I think the move is rational. Best, Felix 2018-06-01 2:31 GMT+02:00 Quentin Christensen <quentin@... <mailto:quentin@...> >: No problem at all - and a much easier fix than if we had broken speech in the new version :) On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@... <mailto:gmtravel@...> > wrote: Hi Quentin, Boy, do I feel stupid. I installed 1803.1 rc2 by mistake. I installed the correct version and all is working as it should. Thanks, From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available Hi Gary, By "Verra", do you mean Microsoft Zira (and if so, SAPI 5 or OneCore?) or do you know which synthesizer or language she comes with? If a OneCore voice, we released NVDA 2018.1.1 specifically to address the OneCore voices from sounding like chipmunks in the Windows 10 April update, so if anything updating from anything to NVDA 2018.2rc2 should be more likely to fix that issue than cause it. What do you have the rate and pitch etc set to, and what do you have the speed set to in Windows speech settings? I have been using eSpeak lately, but I changed to OneCore and SAPI 5 and I don't notice anything odd about Zira myself (happy to admit, that could just be "myself") Regards Quentin. On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:51 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@... <mailto:gmtravel@...> > wrote: Hi Quentin, I just installed rc2. I j\ use verra now she sounds like she is on helium. What can I do to get it back the way I like it? Thanks for any help. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 7:38 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available Hi everyone, Well I was a little slow to post about NVDA 2018.2rc1, and before I had a chance, rc2 is out! This is a release candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the final 2018.2 release. Highlights of this release include Support for tables in Kindle for PC, support for HumanWare BrailleNote Touch and BI14 Braille displays, Improvements to both Onecore and Sapi5 speech synthesizers, improvements in Microsoft Outlook and much more. You can download NVDA 2018.2rc2 here: https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2018.2rc2 <https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2018.2rc2> Find the full list of what's new available here: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2018.2rc2/nvda_2018.2rc2_changes.html <https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2018.2rc2/nvda_2018.2rc2_changes.html> Kind regards Quentin. -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ <http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess> Twitter: @NVAccess -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ <http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess> Twitter: @NVAccess -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ <http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess> Twitter: @NVAccess -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ <http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess> Twitter: @NVAccess -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ <http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess> Twitter: @NVAccess -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess |
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Hi Robert,
I'm just jumping in for Alan and Bel to let you know that we've added in-channel notification sounds for messages, @-mentions, and highlight words, and this should work for your NVDA + Windows configuration.
I hope this helps! Best,
Tomi