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Re: Possible Bug in 2018RC2: When navigating in Word 2016's backstage view items are repeated twice

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

David,

 

This is happening in version 2018.1.1 as well.

 

It also happens in Excel 2016. Does it happen in all Office programs?

 

 

In this fragment of the log file I can see that the menu selection occurs twice in the string but the first one should be a place marker or code reference as it starts with u’” Perhaps this is causing the incorrect double speaking of the menu item?

 

Here is the “Save As” recorded in the log file:

 

“Speaking [u'Save  Save  Alt, F, S']”

 

I am using:

NVDA version 2018.1.1

Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

Found add-on Eloquence

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 8:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Possible Bug in 2018RC2: When navigating in Word 2016's backstage view items are repeated twice

 

Hi.

Not sure if this is a new bug but I don't recall this occurring with 2018.1.1.

 

Issue: When navigating in Word 2016's backstage view (file menu) each item is announced twice.

 

Steps to Reproduce

1. Open Word 2016 (Office 365.)

2. Press alt+F to open the backstage view.

3. Press down arrow to navigate items.

 

Actual Results

Each item is being announced twice. Example: "new new" "open open" 

 

Expected Results

Each item should be announced once.

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David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com


Re: i need list of accessible browsers

 

but many people experienced different browsers and i wish that know
your experience as well as other users observation and test with other
browsers.
which of the browsers that i mentioned did you test?
chromium, vivaldi, slimjet and opera.
i need chrome based browsers for reading pdfs and there is not any
perfect and accessible free program that can supports farsi pdf files
for me.
also, between chromium and google chrome, which one is the best
program for accessibility using with nvda?

On 6/4/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
If you're looking for a list which is tuned to your personal criteria, then

you are the best person to create such a list, based on your own assessment
of
what works well and what doesn't.

If you're looking for a general list which may be applicable to people other

than yourself, then I think I've already given reasons why it doesn't
exist.


Antony.

On Monday 04 June 2018 at 12:21:27, zahra wrote:

hi antony,
for number 2, as you know, i only have nvda on windows and dont know
and dont have any operating systems and screen reader except windows
and nvda.
i dont use video websites, online shopp, games, messengers, etc.
so, i need the information for general usage of browsers in
accessibility with nvda,
the browsers that are based on gecko and chrome,
and also specially about the browsers that i mentioned there names in
my previous comment.
please help, thanks so much, God bless you!

On 6/4/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
I do not think you will find such a list, because:

1. browsers change too quickly, with new releases, bug fixes, extra
features etc, so it would be a lot of work to keep any list up to date
with these changes

2. there isn't a single measure of "accessibility" because some browser
features work better with NVDA than with JAWS, some work better with
JAWS
than with Voiceover, some work better with Braille than with speech
output, so there isn't a single way of measuring the accessibility of a
browser that is meaningful to everyone

3. it also depends on what sort of websites you visit and what you want
to do with your browser, so for some purposes and users one browser /
screenreader combination may be best, but for other uses and users that
may not be the best choice.


Regards,


Antony.

On Monday 04 June 2018 at 11:31:32, zahra wrote:
hello every one.
i wish that find list of browsers based on chrome and based on firefox
and level of there accessibility.
how can i find such list?
can someone please send me the link?
also, did someone test opera recently to see its accessibility?
how about chromium, slimjet and vivaldi?
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!
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Re: i need list of accessible browsers

Antony Stone
 

If you're looking for a list which is tuned to your personal criteria, then
you are the best person to create such a list, based on your own assessment of
what works well and what doesn't.

If you're looking for a general list which may be applicable to people other
than yourself, then I think I've already given reasons why it doesn't exist.


Antony.

On Monday 04 June 2018 at 12:21:27, zahra wrote:

hi antony,
for number 2, as you know, i only have nvda on windows and dont know
and dont have any operating systems and screen reader except windows
and nvda.
i dont use video websites, online shopp, games, messengers, etc.
so, i need the information for general usage of browsers in
accessibility with nvda,
the browsers that are based on gecko and chrome,
and also specially about the browsers that i mentioned there names in
my previous comment.
please help, thanks so much, God bless you!

On 6/4/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
I do not think you will find such a list, because:

1. browsers change too quickly, with new releases, bug fixes, extra
features etc, so it would be a lot of work to keep any list up to date
with these changes

2. there isn't a single measure of "accessibility" because some browser
features work better with NVDA than with JAWS, some work better with JAWS
than with Voiceover, some work better with Braille than with speech
output, so there isn't a single way of measuring the accessibility of a
browser that is meaningful to everyone

3. it also depends on what sort of websites you visit and what you want
to do with your browser, so for some purposes and users one browser /
screenreader combination may be best, but for other uses and users that
may not be the best choice.


Regards,


Antony.

On Monday 04 June 2018 at 11:31:32, zahra wrote:
hello every one.
i wish that find list of browsers based on chrome and based on firefox
and level of there accessibility.
how can i find such list?
can someone please send me the link?
also, did someone test opera recently to see its accessibility?
how about chromium, slimjet and vivaldi?
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!
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Re: i need list of accessible browsers

 

hi antony,
for number 2, as you know, i only have nvda on windows and dont know
and dont have any operating systems and screen reader except windows
and nvda.
i dont use video websites, online shopp, games, messengers, etc.
so, i need the information for general usage of browsers in
accessibility with nvda,
the browsers that are based on gecko and chrome,
and also specially about the browsers that i mentioned there names in
my previous comment.
please help, thanks so much, God bless you!

On 6/4/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
I do not think you will find such a list, because:

1. browsers change too quickly, with new releases, bug fixes, extra features

etc, so it would be a lot of work to keep any list up to date with these
changes

2. there isn't a single measure of "accessibility" because some browser
features work better with NVDA than with JAWS, some work better with JAWS
than
with Voiceover, some work better with Braille than with speech output, so
there isn't a single way of measuring the accessibility of a browser that is

meaningful to everyone

3. it also depends on what sort of websites you visit and what you want to
do
with your browser, so for some purposes and users one browser / screenreader

combination may be best, but for other uses and users that may not be the
best
choice.


Regards,


Antony.

On Monday 04 June 2018 at 11:31:32, zahra wrote:

hello every one.
i wish that find list of browsers based on chrome and based on firefox
and level of there accessibility.
how can i find such list?
can someone please send me the link?
also, did someone test opera recently to see its accessibility?
how about chromium, slimjet and vivaldi?
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!
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Re: "Unofficial" NVDA Add-Ons Repository

Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
 

I think people don't submit their addons for code review because hey don't want to be told their bloody var names aren't up to spec. I don't see what it matters if you use camel case, pascal case, or no case. I think auditing code should focus on things that actually do matter, like confirming that the code in question is non-malicious, will not significantly decrease NVDA's performance, will not collect and disseminate data without gaining user's permission and so on.

I should write an addon and see how far I get. Probably not far as I am not a good coder. It would be interesting what kinds of feedback I would get. If it was stuff like var names, or make sure your indents are the signature four spaces, etc. I'd probably chuckle and hand it over to someone like Jeff's repository. Though if I got feedback like, a better way to go about this is X, Y, and Z, I'd take it more seriously and try to implement it. I do see the necessity of this stuff if you're submitting a PR, or working with Core, because then it does matter. I also see the significance of conforming to the style of a project if you are a collaborator, but an addon is independent, and optional, if someone write a var like thisIsTheKeyThatTheUserPressedAndNowWeWillDoThingsWithIt, I mean I would never do that, but I mean who cares. My vars are like idx and itm, short which is how I like it, and if I think its questionable what it will do I will comment. I am bad about putting comments in code too, and I do realize the importance of that, since some of my work takes place at 3 in the morning right before I go to bed sometimes and I don't remember doing it. I also wish that sometimes I would have written more useful things in the comments rather than strings of expletives. I mostly code in MOO on a MOO and the only other person who will care about it is the owner so, there's that.

As far as safety goes, I do agree, I wouldn't want to be seeing people destroy their machines over malicious addons, but what an you do, I'd definitely throw a disclaimer up on the community site if there isn't one already that says basically that NVAccess is not held responsible for the use of addons, and the use of addons outside this site may be dangerous, etc. There's only so much you can do to protect someone from themselves. And believe me, if they get bitten, they'll learn, I have and I have learned. I wiped out the data across two drives one time while messing around with partitioning on Linux when I didn't know what I was doing. I learned to do it correctly, I was, shall we say, highly motivated.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 2:14 AM, Vlad Dragomir <vladdragomir1983@...> wrote:
I totally agree with you Brian! Besides, this obsession about safety isn't always a great thing. I'm not saying that we should go out and look for trouble. However, non-official rarely means dangerous. I've been using computers since 2001, and benefited so much from taking risks and trying new things. Of course accidents happen sometimes,no one is 100 % safe from anything. But if you start by believing that every unknown person is a killer, we might as well spend the rest of our lives terrified in a buddhist monastry up in the mountains. And even that might not be safe actually.

I simply felt I should express these thought for those who might want to listen. This way, those who still hesitate can make an informed decision.

Best regards to all of you, both adventurous and afraid of their own shadows! *smile*

Vlad.





Re: i need list of accessible browsers

Antony Stone
 

I do not think you will find such a list, because:

1. browsers change too quickly, with new releases, bug fixes, extra features
etc, so it would be a lot of work to keep any list up to date with these
changes

2. there isn't a single measure of "accessibility" because some browser
features work better with NVDA than with JAWS, some work better with JAWS than
with Voiceover, some work better with Braille than with speech output, so
there isn't a single way of measuring the accessibility of a browser that is
meaningful to everyone

3. it also depends on what sort of websites you visit and what you want to do
with your browser, so for some purposes and users one browser / screenreader
combination may be best, but for other uses and users that may not be the best
choice.


Regards,


Antony.

On Monday 04 June 2018 at 11:31:32, zahra wrote:

hello every one.
i wish that find list of browsers based on chrome and based on firefox
and level of there accessibility.
how can i find such list?
can someone please send me the link?
also, did someone test opera recently to see its accessibility?
how about chromium, slimjet and vivaldi?
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!
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i need list of accessible browsers

 

hello every one.
i wish that find list of browsers based on chrome and based on firefox
and level of there accessibility.
how can i find such list?
can someone please send me the link?
also, did someone test opera recently to see its accessibility?
how about chromium, slimjet and vivaldi?
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Best Synthesizer

Gene
 

They may be more responsive but they still have the issues so many of the more natural voices have, unnatural inflections, slurring between 2words, which, too often, sounds as though improper letters are in between words or a letter is missing, and mispronouncing far more words than a good older type of synthesizer like Eloquence. 
 
Synthesizers you pay for usually have demos so you can try them out and see what you think. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 4:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best Synthesizer

Hi,

I find a good compromise of human and responsive, is Vocalizer's compact voices.  The premium high voices, while sounding better, are not as responsive.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: 24 May 2018 22:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best Synthesizer

It depends what you are using it for as to what is "best".  You can get more human sounding voices which are good for reading text and you can have electronic sounding voices which are much more responsive when being used when programming for example.  As someone else posted, it's the one that suits you.

Cheers
Chris  

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dr. J. michael jones
Sent: 24 May 2018 13:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best Synthesizer

Thanks I’m confused.   My question was what is the best? And I believe there is always a better maybe someone else has an opinion
> On May 24, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
>
> SAPI is not a speech engine.  It's a definition of a protocol enabling
> speech applications (synthesis or recognition) to interface to other
> applications (such as a browser).
>
> Some synthesisers can only communicate with other applications via
> SAPI, some can do SAPI plus other protocols, some don't do SAPI at all.
>
> As Gene said, whether a synthesiser communicates using SAPI says
> nothing at all about the quality of its voices.
>
> Also, to add another answer to the original question "what is the best
> sounding synthesizer that NVDA supports?", I would say it's the one
> you like best and get on with best.  That may not be the same as what
> someone else likes.  These things are a very personal choice.
>
>
> Antony.
>
>> On Thursday 24 May 2018 at 13:47:29, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
>>
>> Also, Sapi is a speech engine native to windows.  The beauty and
>> flexibility of NVDA is that it allows for installation of Non-windows
>> synthesizer voices.  Cheers!
>>
>>> On 5/24/2018 7:26 PM, Gene wrote:
>>> It should be pointed out that SAPI is a way that voices communicate
>>> with the computer.  it has nothing to do with the kind of voice in
>>> terms of its speech or general quality.  sometimes, a synthesizer
>>> may have a SAPI version and a version that isn't SAPI.  There is no
>>> reason to use or not to use a voice because it is SAPI.
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> *From:* Chris via Groups.Io
>>> <mailto:chrismedley@...>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:02 AM
>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Best Synthesizer
>>>
>>> There is nothing better than sapi voices
>>>
>>> Don’t waste your time or money on anything else. Have a nice day now
>>> 😃
>
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Re: Best Synthesizer

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

I find a good compromise of human and responsive, is Vocalizer's compact voices. The premium high voices, while sounding better, are not as responsive.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: 24 May 2018 22:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best Synthesizer

It depends what you are using it for as to what is "best". You can get more human sounding voices which are good for reading text and you can have electronic sounding voices which are much more responsive when being used when programming for example. As someone else posted, it's the one that suits you.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dr. J. michael jones
Sent: 24 May 2018 13:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best Synthesizer

Thanks I’m confused. My question was what is the best? And I believe there is always a better maybe someone else has an opinion
On May 24, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:

SAPI is not a speech engine. It's a definition of a protocol enabling
speech applications (synthesis or recognition) to interface to other
applications (such as a browser).

Some synthesisers can only communicate with other applications via
SAPI, some can do SAPI plus other protocols, some don't do SAPI at all.

As Gene said, whether a synthesiser communicates using SAPI says
nothing at all about the quality of its voices.

Also, to add another answer to the original question "what is the best
sounding synthesizer that NVDA supports?", I would say it's the one
you like best and get on with best. That may not be the same as what
someone else likes. These things are a very personal choice.


Antony.

On Thursday 24 May 2018 at 13:47:29, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Also, Sapi is a speech engine native to windows. The beauty and
flexibility of NVDA is that it allows for installation of Non-windows
synthesizer voices. Cheers!

On 5/24/2018 7:26 PM, Gene wrote:
It should be pointed out that SAPI is a way that voices communicate
with the computer. it has nothing to do with the kind of voice in
terms of its speech or general quality. sometimes, a synthesizer
may have a SAPI version and a version that isn't SAPI. There is no
reason to use or not to use a voice because it is SAPI.
Gene

*From:* Chris via Groups.Io
<mailto:chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
*Sent:* Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:02 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Best Synthesizer

There is nothing better than sapi voices

Don’t waste your time or money on anything else. Have a nice day now
😃
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Re: Slack accessibility status?

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Robert and all,
I use Slack every day for my work with colleagues.
The telephone app works fine, but it is out of topic of this list.
I did not manage to use the desktop application that was not accessible when I tested it.
I use it now with Chrome, because Firefox used to be very slow.
I installed a script developed by NV-Access working with the script manager tampermonkey and it works fine.
Here is the link for the script:
https://github.com/nvaccess/axSGrease
You can set slack to not announce all notifications.
the script manager, tampermonkey can be found here:
http://tampermonkey.net/
I hope this helps.
Best
Sylvie

Le 02/06/2018 à 18:55, Robert Kingett a écrit :

Thanks! Is there an accessible desktop client yet? What is the status of automatic reading of incoming messages using ARIA? Is there an accessibility blog category I can keep up with? I would like to continue to get accessibility updates. I tried it, and, it works best on windows with FireFox. Sometimes, the sounds stutter when NVDA is talking, but this only happens in FireFox 60. Thanks again and keep me informed!


On 6/2/2018 1:42 AM, Tomi (Slack) wrote:
# Please type your reply above this line #

Tomi (Slack)

Jun 1, 11:42 PM PDT

Hi Robert,

I'm just jumping in for Alan and Bel to let you know that we've added in-channel notification sounds for messages, @-mentions, and highlight words, and this should work for your NVDA + Windows configuration.

I hope this helps! Best,

Tomi


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external serial synthesisers

Joe Paton
 

Morning all,

I want to use NVDA current release, with an old but lovely dectalk
express, connected to com3 at the present.

Where should I point the old borwser to locate a suitable set of drivers
for this device?

Many thanks.


Re: NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available

Felix G.
 

Hello,
could this be related to the fact that two instances of NVDA are involved, one for reading the secure desktop, the other for reading the user context? What if the former does not relinquish control of the device for some odd reason?
Best,
Felix


2018-06-04 2:45 GMT+02:00 lauracornwell <lauracornwell1@...>:

Hey there, to all  I am looking for a link that we were talking about  today @ NVdACon   could someone  send me the Irc links please?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 7:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available

Thank you - the add-on may not have anything to do with it, but testing with it disabled is a good starting point.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:59 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io <mailto:jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> > wrote:


        Yes, the problem is similar to several of those reported in GitHub, except that I’m testing with a VFO/Freedom Scientific Focus display, and the display is successfully detected after resuming from laptop suspend – it’s just lost during the transition from the log-in dialogue to the desktop.



        I think the problem occurred before I installed the BrailleExtender add-on, but I’ll retest with the add-on disabled.



        From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
        Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 7:03 AM


        To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
        Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available





        There's a couple of issues on GitHub on that - not sure if they are Braille display brand specific, but could you please have a look and let me know if any of those match what you are experiencing?  Just so we can make sure your issues is recorded.  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+braille+wake <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+braille+wake>



        Also you mentioned using the Braille-Extender add-on - I wanted to clarify - does the issue happen with that add-on enabled specifically?  IE if you disable the add-on does your display wake when the computer does?



        Regards



        Quentin.



        On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 5:20 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io <mailto:jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> > wrote:

                Having just upgraded a machine to 2018.2-rc2, everything seems to be stable so far, including the Braille-Extender add-on. I’m still experiencing the issue with the braille display not being active after returning to the desktop from laptop suspend (it’s properly re-activated during the log-in dialogue, but lost upon returning to the desktop). I reported the details in another thread.



                However, I was seeing that problem under 2018.1, so it isn’t a regression in 2018.2.



                From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
                Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 7:00 AM


                To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
                Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available



                Thanks Felix!



                Also, for those used to getting to the settings dialogs with the shortcut keys (NVDA+control+k to get to keyboard, NVDA+control+d for document formatting etc), those keys all still work.  It's just if you go via the NVDA menu, the key sequence has slightly changed.



                On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:53 PM, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@... <mailto:constantlyvariable@gmail.com> > wrote:

                        Wow! Congrats on an excellent RC from my point of view.

                        Just noticed that the preferences dialogs have been completely redesigned as a single dialog with categories. That'll take some getting used to, but I think the move is rational.

                        Best,

                        Felix



                        2018-06-01 2:31 GMT+02:00 Quentin Christensen <quentin@... <mailto:quentin@...> >:

                                No problem at all - and a much easier fix than if we had broken speech in the new version :)



                                On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@... <mailto:gmtravel@...> > wrote:

                                        Hi Quentin,



                                        Boy, do I feel stupid.  I installed 1803.1 rc2 by mistake.  I installed the correct version and all is working as it should.  Thanks,



                                        From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
                                        Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 8:06 PM
                                        To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
                                        Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available



                                        Hi Gary,



                                        By "Verra", do you mean Microsoft Zira (and if so, SAPI 5 or OneCore?) or do you know which synthesizer or language she comes with?

                                        If a OneCore voice, we released NVDA 2018.1.1 specifically to address the OneCore voices from sounding like chipmunks in the Windows 10 April update, so if anything updating from anything to NVDA 2018.2rc2 should be more likely to fix that issue than cause it.  What do you have the rate and pitch etc set to, and what do you have the speed set to in Windows speech settings?



                                        I have been using eSpeak lately, but I changed to OneCore and SAPI 5 and I don't notice anything odd about Zira myself (happy to admit, that could just be "myself")



                                        Regards



                                        Quentin.



                                        On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:51 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@... <mailto:gmtravel@...> > wrote:

                                        Hi Quentin,



                                        I just installed rc2.  I j\ use verra now she sounds like she is on helium.  What can I do to get it back the way I like it?  Thanks for any help.



                                        From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
                                        Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 7:38 AM
                                        To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
                                        Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2rc2 now available



                                        Hi everyone,



                                        Well I was a little slow to post about NVDA 2018.2rc1, and before I had a chance, rc2 is out!



                                        This is a release candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the final 2018.2 release.



                                        Highlights of this release include Support for tables in Kindle for PC, support for HumanWare BrailleNote Touch and BI14 Braille displays, Improvements to both Onecore and Sapi5 speech synthesizers, improvements in Microsoft Outlook and much more.



                                        You can download NVDA 2018.2rc2 here: https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2018.2rc2 <https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2018.2rc2>



                                        Find the full list of what's new available here: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2018.2rc2/nvda_2018.2rc2_changes.html <https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2018.2rc2/nvda_2018.2rc2_changes.html>



                                        Kind regards



                                        Quentin.

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Re: "Unofficial" NVDA Add-Ons Repository

Vlad Dragomir
 

I totally agree with you Brian! Besides, this obsession about safety isn't always a great thing. I'm not saying that we should go out and look for trouble. However, non-official rarely means dangerous. I've been using computers since 2001, and benefited so much from taking risks and trying new things. Of course accidents happen sometimes,no one is 100 % safe from anything. But if you start by believing that every unknown person is a killer, we might as well spend the rest of our lives terrified in a buddhist monastry up in the mountains. And even that might not be safe actually.

I simply felt I should express these thought for those who might want to listen. This way, those who still hesitate can make an informed decision.

Best regards to all of you, both adventurous and afraid of their own shadows! *smile*

Vlad.


Re: browse mode

Gene
 

Modern computers and even going back to XP didn't need optimization to function properly with screen-readers.  The symptoms described have nothing to do with whether anything is optomized.  Optomizing may make the computer work more efficiently with a screen-reader or it may do something like stop a crashing problem if the file pane in file Explorer is on.  Or it may make something like a file and folder list appear in a screen-reader friendly format.  But no optimization nor lack of it would cause or stop the current problem.  These are needless complications.
 
I don't know what the solution to the problem is but none of the things you discuss will solve it. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

Which would essentially leave him on the net exposed to every piece of
malware known to hackerdom. I'm thinking perhaps not?

Brennen, there is an awful lot you don't tell us, ie, what version of
Windows you're using, what browser you're using, whether you've
optimized your computer for use by blind individuals, including
browser accessibility settings, and whether or not your version of
NVDA is portable or a standard installation.

I would suggest also viewing your event logs under control panel >
administrative tools, both in terms of systems & application logs as
well as your NVDA log to see if any errors are shown.

On 6/3/18, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:
> This comes from a forum so has no guarantee:
>
> Hi,
>
> You could just stop all the Sophos services if you're a local admin.
>
> The following command would do it:
>
> wmic service where "caption like '%Sophos%'" call stopservice
>
> Note: Change stopservice to startservice to start them back up.
>
>
>> On 4 Jun 2018, at 10:00, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:
>>
>> how do i disabel it
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> That may well be the problem. You may like to try an alternative or
>>> temporarily disable it, seeing if the problem is eleviated.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:56, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am running sophos antivirus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Sam Taylor <samtaylor9@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you running HitMan Alert or a Sofos Antivirus professional product?
>>>>> These can play havoc with keyboard mappings and NVDA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4 Jun 2018, at 09:48, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yah sorry i don’t do so well talking about problems through email but
>>>>>> yes the problem occurs with every shortcut key in brows mode and it
>>>>>> seems to do just about every other action but the action it supposed
>>>>>> to do
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The symptoms described don't match the problem.  Here is the original
>>>>>>> description:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box
>>>>>>> no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
>>>>>>> Nothing was stated about web pages not being able to be read.
>>>>>>> Nothing was said about any occurrence of the word "unknown" being
>>>>>>> spoken.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have never seen this description of symptoms associated with the
>>>>>>> problem the corrective procedure is supposed to correct.  I see no
>>>>>>> reason to perform this corrective procedure until there is some
>>>>>>> indication that the problem has any of the symptoms associated with
>>>>>>> the problem this procedure is supposed to fix.
>>>>>>> Gene
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Gene New Zealand
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 5:45 PM
>>>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>> it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tool... then press the enter key.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
>>>>>>> broken dlls that nvda needs to use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> let us know if it does the trick.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to
>>>>>>> follow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gene nz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>>>>>> > If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think
>>>>>>> > is
>>>>>>> > being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such
>>>>>>> > problems
>>>>>>> > in windows installations.
>>>>>>> > Brian
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > bglists@...
>>>>>>> > Sent via blueyonder.
>>>>>>> > Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>>>>>> > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>>>>> > in the display name field.
>>>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
>>>>>>> > <brennenkinch@...>
>>>>>>> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > not sure I could write them all down in the email
>>>>>>> >> On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
>>>>>>> >> <hurrikennyandopo@...>  wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> hi
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus
>>>>>>> >> mode
>>>>>>> >> when you go between those modes?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when
>>>>>>> >> you are
>>>>>>> >> out of focus mode you hear another sound.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
>>>>>>> >> settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of
>>>>>>> >> focus
>>>>>>> >> and browse modes
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> then save your settings.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on
>>>>>>> >> windows
>>>>>>> >> and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff
>>>>>>> >> like
>>>>>>> >> that?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download
>>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>>> >> latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this
>>>>>>> >> version of
>>>>>>> >> nvda that might fix it.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> If you are not really getting that stuff  then we can sus some
>>>>>>> >> thing else
>>>>>>> >> out and maybe narrow it a little.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Gene nz
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
>>>>>>> >>> no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
>>>>>>> >>> looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m
>>>>>>> >>> not
>>>>>>> >>> sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
>>>>>>> >>> browsers as well
>>>>>>> >>>> On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch
>>>>>>> >>>> <brennenkinch@...>
>>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
>>>>>>> >>>> versions of NVDA
>>>>>>> >>>> particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for
>>>>>>> >>>> example
>>>>>>> >>>> when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no
>>>>>>> >>>> edit
>>>>>>> >>>> box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
>>>>>>> >>>> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> configurations of no luck can anyone please help me
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>


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Re: Sorry I missed NVDACon would love any recordings

Michael Chopra
 

Hi. The conference is listed in the Past conferences section on the website already. This is where recordings will be made available. The direct URL is:
https://www.nvdacon.org/past-conferences
I hope this helps.
Thanks.
From Michael

On 4/06/18 12:39, Quentin Christensen wrote:
The recordings will all be up on the NVDACon website in the next few days (say a week or so just in case).  I know most of the organising committee are in the group here so I have no doubt they will announce as recordings are available at https://www.nvdacon.org/

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 9:59 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

can I get the recordings as well?


On 6/3/2018 4:50 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi all in the NVDA community!

I, David Moore, wanted to be a part of NVDACon so much.

However, it was my wife’s birthday on the second, and I had Bible study Friday night on the first.

I would love any recordings that anyone might have. Please right me off list, if you have any information on the future of NVDA that I missed.

You all mean so much to me.

Have a great day, all of you.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


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Re: browse mode

 

Hi Brennen and others,
Based on messages from the list archive, this is not a COM registration problem. As Sam pointed out, this may have to do with key mapping problem where you press a first letter key and Windows interprets it as something else.

Can you try the following for me please:

1. Revert to NVDA 2018.1 unless you've installed RC already.
2. Open NVDA menu (NVDA key+N), then open Tools, then select "manage add-ons".
3. See if you have any add-ons. If this is a fresh install, add-ons list will be empty, so no need to go to step 4.
4. If you have one or more add-ons, close Add-ons Manager and restart NVDA in safe mode (add-ons disabled). To do this, press NVDA+Q, then select "restart with add-ons disabled". If this solves the problem, proceed to step 5, otherwise try what Sam T suggests.
5. With NVDA restarted with add-ons turned off, go to NVDA menu/Tools/manage add-ons.
6. From add-ons list, go through each add-on, enable the item (Alt+E), then close and restart. Repeat this step for all add-ons (one by one) until the problem resurfaces.
7. In case the problem comes back after enabling a specific add-on, please write down the name of the add-on so it can be reported to the add-ons community ASAP.

In case the problem is not resolved, please do:

1. Go to NVDA general settings (NVDA menu/Preferences/General for 2018.1 and earlier, NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/General in 2018.2, or press Control+NVDA+G).
2. Locate "logging level" combo box and set it to "debug" and press Enter to save changes.
3. Use the browser and try issuing some first letter keys.
4. After this, press NVDA+F1 and copy everything from the window that appears and send it to info@nvaccess.org as an email message. Be sure to describe what's going on and paste the log content.
5. Return to general settings and set log level to info.

In step 4, I said it should be sent to another email address because setting log level to debug causes everything you type and NVDA speaks to be logged for the world to see, and for many, this is a big concern.

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Joseph
P.S. For others: I'll teach you what I just did as part of a three-part Beginning NVDA Tech Support training later in June.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brennen Kinch
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 6:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode

I am honestly not sure
On Jun 3, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

OK I’ll download it it’s in the browser in the web browser every time
I hit one of the buttons instead of saying what it’s for but usually
says like no checkboxes no frames instead of the element it’s actually
fore
On Jun 3, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

Hi


You can obtain a copy of 2018.2 rc2 from the following link at
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-2rc2-released/

Just reading back over what the other Gene had said you did not
mention unknown or pane when in the browsers or down in the running
applications area etc. The tool in that RC version wouldive in most fixed that problem.


Reading back it said no check boxes etc that sounded like you were in
browse mode. Was this in the browser? or some other program?


From what sam said it sounds like it could be a possibility with your
anti virus raining problems there.


Gene nz

.


On 6/4/2018 11:07 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
how do i find the rc versions
On Jun 3, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it
might be grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install
it to your computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key +
letter N to go into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub
menu will come off it then locate the following menu called Run COM
Registration Fixing tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed
you towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to follow.

Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 9:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think
is being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such
problems in windows installations.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brennen Kinch"
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things
I’m not sure I could write them all down in the email
On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus
mode when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when
you are out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of
focus and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on
windows and it is not speaking the icons down there and some
other stuff like that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you
download the latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool
in this version of nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some
thing else out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m
not sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all
web browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch
<brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
versions of NVDA particularly with using the shortcut keys in
brows mode for example when I press the H key for headings it
says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say
anything about headings I have tried uninstalling and
reinstalling NVDA am resetting my configurations of no luck can
anyone please help me

Sent from my iPhone









Re: "Unofficial" NVDA Add-Ons Repository

 

Hi,

The position of the NVDA add-ons community is that we encourage add-on authors to submit add-ons for review so they can be featured on the community add-ons website. This allows new authors to be recognized for their contributions and for folks to find add-ons more easily, and eventually, allow add-on updates from official sources (for now).

In the past, the review process for add-ons was strict. This was greatly relaxed in 2016 to check for basics only, with an option for authors to request more stringent reviews on a case by case basis. I think this may have caused authors to not submit add-ons in the past, but that’s slowly changing.

There are two more reasons (more of a technical nature) that submitting add-ons for review are encouraged (and I will go around the add-ons community to help out once more):

  1. Python 3 compatibility: the foundation is being laid to upgrade to Python 3 in the future. In terms of the add-ons community, people who will be most affected by will be those running really outdated add-ons that wasn’t edited to Python 3 standards.
  2. wxPython 4: soon, NVDA users will get a chance to test wxPython 4 code again. This impacts any add-on that relies on GUI and wxPython features for certain tasks.

 

There is a third reason why we encourage reviews: NVDA Core code compatibility. Some add-on authors, including I, have declared that due to various reasons, latest add-on releases (current and future) will require NVDA 2018.2 and later for optimal functionality, and usually add-on reviewers catch this quite early. Also, there will come a day when add-ons that declare themselves incompatible with a certain minimum version of NVDA will not be loaded by NVDA itself (unless overridden by developers). These changes are first applied to add-ons on official community add-ons repo, and then cascades to others.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] "Unofficial" NVDA Add-Ons Repository

 

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 06:25 pm, Ian Blackburn wrote:

Safer to stick with the official add-on repository

Things have been tested there

That's not really the issue.  There exist add-ons written for software that are not a part of the official add-on repository.

I agree that the stuff at the official repository is great, but that doesn't mean that stuff that's been "privately developed" is not equally useful.
 
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Re: "Unofficial" NVDA Add-Ons Repository

 

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 06:25 pm, Ian Blackburn wrote:
Safer to stick with the official add-on repository
Things have been tested there
That's not really the issue.  There exist add-ons written for software that are not a part of the official add-on repository.

I agree that the stuff at the official repository is great, but that doesn't mean that stuff that's been "privately developed" is not equally useful.
 
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Re: browse mode

Brennen Kinch
 

I am honestly not sure

On Jun 3, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

OK I’ll download it it’s in the browser in the web browser every time I hit one of the buttons instead of saying what it’s for but usually says like no checkboxes no frames instead of the element it’s actually fore
On Jun 3, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

Hi


You can obtain a copy of 2018.2 rc2 from the following link at
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-2rc2-released/

Just reading back over what the other Gene had said you did not mention
unknown or pane when in the browsers or down in the running applications
area etc. The tool in that RC version wouldive in most fixed that problem.


Reading back it said no check boxes etc that sounded like you were in
browse mode. Was this in the browser? or some other program?


From what sam said it sounds like it could be a possibility with your
anti virus raining problems there.


Gene nz

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On 6/4/2018 11:07 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
how do i find the rc versions
On Jun 3, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

the tool Brian is refering to if it is the same bug i think it might be
grab a copy of nvda 2018.2 rc2 and download it and install it to your
computer. Then while nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N to go
into the preferences of nvda then go to tools a sub menu will come off
it then locate the following menu called Run COM Registration Fixing
tool... then press the enter key.

I am not sure after that but after the process should register any
broken dlls that nvda needs to use.

let us know if it does the trick.

By the way after you press the enter key on it the menu e pointed you
towards i am not sure if there are any thing or screen after that to follow.

Gene nz

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If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think is
being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such problems
in windows installations.
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Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m
not sure I could write them all down in the email
On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like
that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it
looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not
sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web
browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest
versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example
when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit
box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my
configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

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Re: Sorry I missed NVDACon would love any recordings

David Moore
 

Thanks a lot, Quentin!

David Moore

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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 8:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sorry I missed NVDACon would love any recordings

 

The recordings will all be up on the NVDACon website in the next few days (say a week or so just in case).  I know most of the organising committee are in the group here so I have no doubt they will announce as recordings are available at https://www.nvdacon.org/

 

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 9:59 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

can I get the recordings as well?

 

On 6/3/2018 4:50 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi all in the NVDA community!

I, David Moore, wanted to be a part of NVDACon so much.

However, it was my wife’s birthday on the second, and I had Bible study Friday night on the first.

I would love any recordings that anyone might have. Please right me off list, if you have any information on the future of NVDA that I missed.

You all mean so much to me.

Have a great day, all of you.

David Moore

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