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Re: Microsoft is acquiring Github

 

Well with microsoft releasing a lot of opensource thing and with its launch into other oses, android, ios and linux one assumes that this is more streamlining than anything else.

A universal accessible git would be nice for developers.

Skype for what it is is still a good platform especially now they have classic back.

On the other hand, skype itself may die, a lot of people use the facebook owned whats app, and its got better quality and well the family use it.

Its like sky tv vs netflicks and other online retailers, space is tight and limited.

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Well having read it I am little wiser, its all a bit abstract really.
i just wonder what the bottom line actually is here.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Florian Ionașcu" <florianionascu@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 7:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft is acquiring Github


Hello everyone!
Well, I know that the message I'm writting is maybe a bit out off-topic,
but I have a breaking news, especially for NVDA's developers, as the
NVDA project is hosted on Github. Microsoft is preparing to acquire this
company, as it purchased Skype, LinkedIn, Nokia, and other companies in
the past. I don't know how could we be affected, but it's well to be up
to date with the things that are happening in the world as much as we
can. Read these posts to find out further information.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/?p=52553832
https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/

Cheers,
Florian







Re: Microsoft is acquiring Github

 

Well git does professional services but still.

A universal git, I don't know.

A lot of opensource and modded things like drivers and all sorts of projects are handled there.

But a lot of stuff is done on git.

There are other platforms.

sourceforge is one of them.

Ofcause they finance themselves with opencandy and other malware.

Thats seen me abandon things like cdex, izarchiver, freemake and dvdvideosoft products sometimes I have to buy expensive other tools which may not work as well.

Cdbxp has an alternit installer, and well ccleaner with avast and chrome, well I just get used to that but even so.

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I guess it depends very much on their reasons for buying it. One assumes it means making money so I'd vee very wary about that for a start. If they got it and shut it all down a heck of a lot of people would be inconvenienced and have to find a new home.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Florian Ionașcu" <florianionascu@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 7:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft is acquiring Github


Hello everyone!
Well, I know that the message I'm writting is maybe a bit out off-topic,
but I have a breaking news, especially for NVDA's developers, as the
NVDA project is hosted on Github. Microsoft is preparing to acquire this
company, as it purchased Skype, LinkedIn, Nokia, and other companies in
the past. I don't know how could we be affected, but it's well to be up
to date with the things that are happening in the world as much as we
can. Read these posts to find out further information.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/?p=52553832
https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/

Cheers,
Florian







Re: Microsoft is acquiring Github

 

Well I doubt microsoft will kill opensource software in general even for other oses.

They have been open since the death of win10 mobile and their mobile devices.

At least I hope that doesn't happen.

Things we could see that are positive could include the git intergration into windows development environment and windows insiders having git access or ms account needed for git access which isn't a bad thing by any stretch.

Full accessible git support etc.

However with twitter shutting down third party apps, they simply could close git down.

On 6/5/2018 6:11 AM, Florian Ionașcu wrote:
Hello everyone!
Well, I know that the message I'm writting is maybe a bit out off-topic,
but I have a breaking news, especially for NVDA's developers, as the
NVDA project is hosted on Github. Microsoft is preparing to acquire this
company, as it purchased Skype, LinkedIn, Nokia, and other companies in
the past. I don't know how could we be affected, but it's well to be up
to date with the things that are happening in the world as much as we
can. Read these posts to find out further information.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/?p=52553832
https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/

Cheers,
Florian



Re: Microsoft is acquiring Github

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Well having read it I am little wiser, its all a bit abstract really.
i just wonder what the bottom line actually is here.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Florian Ionașcu" <florianionascu@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 7:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft is acquiring Github


Hello everyone!
Well, I know that the message I'm writting is maybe a bit out off-topic,
but I have a breaking news, especially for NVDA's developers, as the
NVDA project is hosted on Github. Microsoft is preparing to acquire this
company, as it purchased Skype, LinkedIn, Nokia, and other companies in
the past. I don't know how could we be affected, but it's well to be up
to date with the things that are happening in the world as much as we
can. Read these posts to find out further information.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/?p=52553832
https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/

Cheers,
Florian




Re: Firefox 60, with NVDA 2018.2RC2, can't click on links

Gene
 

Have you tested with another screen-reader?  and what happens if you turn off browse mode, tab to a link, then press enter?
 
Are you pressing enter on links? 
 
To test with browse mode off, do the following:
Turn off browse mode with NVDA key space bar. 
Tab to a link and press enter.  Turn on browse mode with the same command, NVDA key plus space bar.
Wait a little to see if the page loads.  Then look around to see if you are on the page.
 
Gene
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From: Jessica D
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 60, with NVDA 2018.2RC2, can't click on links

Hi,
Yes, no links can be clicked.
when NVDA says something is a link, I can’t activate it.



On Jun 4, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

I don't either. All works over here, at least as far as I know and the last time I use FF which was I believe Sunday or so.

On Jun 4, 2018, at 9:21 AM, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:

hi.
are you sure that the links are not graphical links or just clickable links?
i dont have such a problem using firefox not quantum versions.
the only problem for me in this regard is graphical links.

On 6/4/18, Jessica D <jldail13@...> wrote:
Hi,
I’m having serious issues clicking links in Firefox 60, when using NVDA
2018.2RC2.

This issue has occurred for many versions of Firefox for me.

What can I do?

Thanks,
Jessica


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Re: Microsoft is acquiring Github

mattias
 

The Company only need to say no thanks to ms

 

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I guess it depends very much on their reasons for buying it. One assumes it

means making money so I'd vee very wary about that for a start. If they got

it and shut it all down a heck of a lot of people would be inconvenienced

and have to find a new home.

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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 7:11 PM

Subject: [nvda] Microsoft is acquiring Github

 

 

> Hello everyone!

> Well, I know that the message I'm writting is maybe a bit out off-topic,

> but I have a breaking news, especially for NVDA's developers, as the

> NVDA project is hosted on Github. Microsoft is preparing to acquire this

> company, as it purchased Skype, LinkedIn, Nokia, and other companies in

> the past. I don't know how could we be affected, but it's well to be up

> to date with the things that are happening in the world as much as we

> can. Read these posts to find out further information.

> https://blogs.microsoft.com/?p=52553832

> https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/

> Cheers,

> Florian

>

>

 

 

 

 


Re: Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1

Walker, Michael E
 

Brian - according to Chris, you need JAB 32-bit, as NVDA is apparently a 32-bit app.

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1

Don't you need both versions these days?
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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1


Hi Chris,

How can I tell which version of JAB NVDA is using?

It looks like Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 is using JDK 1.7.0_67 64-bit, judging by going to C:\Program Files\jdk1.7.0_67\bin. I see a file in that bin directory called jabswitch.exe.

Thanks,
Mike

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1

Hi Michael
Is the 32-bit JAB installed and being used by NVDA?
Is NVDA not working at all with your software or is it working but not very well?

Cheers
Chris

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Sent: 4 June 2018 16:42
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1

Hello,

I need to be able to get Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 to work, for my job, and its work assignment. Is there an NVDA add-on for NVDA 2018.1.1 on Windows 10, that will enhance NVDA's performance with Java Access Bridge? I am on Windows 10.

Thank you,
Mike


Re: Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1

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Don't you need both versions these days?
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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1


Hi Chris,

How can I tell which version of JAB NVDA is using?

It looks like Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 is using JDK 1.7.0_67 64-bit, judging by going to C:\Program Files\jdk1.7.0_67\bin. I see a file in that bin directory called jabswitch.exe.

Thanks,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1

Hi Michael
Is the 32-bit JAB installed and being used by NVDA?
Is NVDA not working at all with your software or is it working but not very well?

Cheers
Chris

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: 4 June 2018 16:42
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1

Hello,

I need to be able to get Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 to work, for my job, and its work assignment. Is there an NVDA add-on for NVDA 2018.1.1 on Windows 10, that will enhance NVDA's performance with Java Access Bridge? I am on Windows 10.

Thank you,
Mike


Re: Firefox 60, with NVDA 2018.2RC2, can't click on links

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Have you run the tool in the tools menu that is supposed to fix problems in the registry?
if that does not work then unless you are on windows 7 as I am wheree the new engine is very flaky, I'm stumped and you may find some help perhaps by raising a ticket. Have you used other qualantum versions successfully?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 60, with NVDA 2018.2RC2, can't click on links


Hi,
Yes, no links can be clicked.
when NVDA says something is a link, I can’t activate it.
On Jun 4, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't either. All works over here, at least as far as I know and the last time I use FF which was I believe Sunday or so.

On Jun 4, 2018, at 9:21 AM, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:

hi.
are you sure that the links are not graphical links or just clickable links?
i dont have such a problem using firefox not quantum versions.
the only problem for me in this regard is graphical links.

On 6/4/18, Jessica D <jldail13@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I’m having serious issues clicking links in Firefox 60, when using NVDA
2018.2RC2.

This issue has occurred for many versions of Firefox for me.

What can I do?

Thanks,
Jessica


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Re: external serial synthesisers

 

Enablerehab can offer you dectalk.

but I agree even if you pay them the 5 bucks needed for the software or less there are volume issues.

I own dectalk but I don't use it.

On the other hand not that I condone alegal activities in this list it may be possible to use things like alegal eloquence and or dectalk without a problem, previded no one challenges anyone ever for the next 10-20 years or so.

Its still alegal, however there was a news story I read some time back where a charity decided to distribute windows 3.1 and dos to people for nothing.

Microsoft branch nz sued them for using alegal things.

Microsoft hq decided that they couldn't care less because of the age.

While thats not a given you can go and pirate things its a comfort to know that depending on the age especially if it will never be maintained, that you may still get away with it.

No support though and if you screw up its your own problem but still.

Saying that, this would be a case by case thing.

A group of us using it probably wouldn't matter that much.

Saying that, enablerehab@gmail.com is still your friend, the agreement is still in place even though no one has seen them on here for a while.

On 6/5/2018 12:17 AM, Gene wrote:
The Dectalk ability you have is likely an illegal add on. And no Dectalk software, legal or illegal, has been as good as the old Dectalk external synthesizers or as the software emulations such as Text Assist, available a long time ago.

At some point, the code for DectTalk was lost. Attempts have been made to reconstruct it, but no reconstruction is as good as the old code.

plus using an external synthesizer of any kind removes the problem of using a single sound card with what you hear to record audio with no speech from the screen-reader.

Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] external serial synthesisers


Do you really need this? I have a dectalk software emulation as an add on on
my nvda, not sure where it came from though.
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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 8:55 AM
Subject: [nvda] external serial synthesisers



Morning all,

I want to use NVDA current release, with an old but lovely dectalk
express, connected to com3 at the present.

Where should I point the old borwser to locate a suitable set of drivers
for this device?

Many thanks.





Re: Firefox 60, with NVDA 2018.2RC2, can't click on links

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Are you on windows 7???
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 3:38 PM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox 60, with NVDA 2018.2RC2, can't click on links


Hi,
I’m having serious issues clicking links in Firefox 60, when using NVDA 2018.2RC2.

This issue has occurred for many versions of Firefox for me.

What can I do?

Thanks,
Jessica


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Re: i need list of accessible browsers

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Certainly the latest and last 32 bit firefox using the old engine takes minutes to come in when first launched and feels spongy on xp single processor machines. The version 45 of firefox is still reasonable on the machine but you need to stop it updating itself.
I have not had any luck finding the others you mention that run on xp machines now. maybe there are old versions out there but I think they are two based on firefox and the other on chrome.


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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] i need list of accessible browsers


thanks brian for your help.
yes, i use 32bit and wish that use 32bit system and softwares forever.
how about slimjet, chromium and opera?
did you test any of these softwares too?
do you mean that all firefox 52esr versions of firefox are slow on xp
and old hardwares?
the only version of firefox which i did not have any crash or
slowness, was firefox 25

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Onn of the problems you will find is that most are 64 bit so if you are
still using 32 bit computers, you are not going to be able to run them.
Unfortunately, Firefox 52.8esr is very slow to start on older hardware.
I did try to find a usable installer fro xp chrome but it seems to have
been deleted from every site I've looked at and there is no guarantee that
even if it were the full installer that it would be able to work very well
with newer web sites.
I think most of the others like pale moon and vivaldi based on firefox are
either so cut down there is no accessibility api or they suffer the same
issue of slowdown on firefox esr.
The only thing I can say and its really at ones own risk is that older
versions say 45 of firefox are considerably faster on xp and slower hardware

but may not be totally safe or have much support left.
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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 10:31 AM
Subject: [nvda] i need list of accessible browsers


hello every one.
i wish that find list of browsers based on chrome and based on firefox
and level of there accessibility.
how can i find such list?
can someone please send me the link?
also, did someone test opera recently to see its accessibility?
how about chromium, slimjet and vivaldi?
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!

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Re: i need list of accessible browsers

Walker, Michael E
 

The latest Mozilla Firefox with NVDA 2018.1.1 works fine for me on Windows 10.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 2:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] i need list of accessible browsers

there isn't much of a list anyway.

1.  internet explorer, though thats old, insecure and crashes a lot.

2.  edge, its a replacement but you choose if you like it.

3.  chrome, just about everyone uses this somewhere it can be good or not you choose.

4.  waterfox, this may change but its old firefox with a bit more improvement.

5.  firefox esr 52 which is fine or 60 which well I don't use.

6.  firefox normal which I don't use but if you have a fast cpu and loads of ram and don't need to fiddle with visual controls its probably ok.

7.  opera, unknown myself.

Those are the major platforms the blind can use.

of course, thats subjective.

There are loads of ports for web brousers, there are older ports and shells for internet explorer like webformatter or web ie but these are out of date and antivirus can mark them as a problem.

Over that you have choice.

Web brousers that may work are sea monkey, the origional mozilla engine, netscape communicater 4x 5zx or 3 x.

Internet explorer 8 if you can find it, or 6 if you can find it but not much runs on that.

Your best bet if you have no idea is to be safe.

Safe brousers right now for me are waterfox and chrome and maybe firefox?

Ie is good for a few things but I wouldn't trust my data to it unless a site needs it, some things just crash with other stuff <sigh>

Edge, is edge.

Status may be heading towards accessibility but with ms being ms the trust I have for win10 is as only good as the current build I am on.

Every build requires you to relearn some of it, in most cases I have been able to for the most part shut down all the new stuff I don't care about and continue as I am.

I am concerned with microsoft getting github though.

Lets see, shut down everything so everyone needs to use microsoft software.

Lets hope microsoft are not brought out by twitter.




On 6/4/2018 10:31 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
If you're looking for a list which is tuned to your personal criteria,
then you are the best person to create such a list, based on your own
assessment of what works well and what doesn't.

If you're looking for a general list which may be applicable to people
other than yourself, then I think I've already given reasons why it doesn't exist.


Antony.

On Monday 04 June 2018 at 12:21:27, zahra wrote:

hi antony,
for number 2, as you know, i only have nvda on windows and dont know
and dont have any operating systems and screen reader except windows
and nvda.
i dont use video websites, online shopp, games, messengers, etc.
so, i need the information for general usage of browsers in
accessibility with nvda, the browsers that are based on gecko and
chrome, and also specially about the browsers that i mentioned there
names in my previous comment.
please help, thanks so much, God bless you!

On 6/4/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
I do not think you will find such a list, because:

1. browsers change too quickly, with new releases, bug fixes, extra
features etc, so it would be a lot of work to keep any list up to
date with these changes

2. there isn't a single measure of "accessibility" because some
browser features work better with NVDA than with JAWS, some work
better with JAWS than with Voiceover, some work better with Braille
than with speech output, so there isn't a single way of measuring
the accessibility of a browser that is meaningful to everyone

3. it also depends on what sort of websites you visit and what you
want to do with your browser, so for some purposes and users one
browser / screenreader combination may be best, but for other uses
and users that may not be the best choice.


Regards,


Antony.

On Monday 04 June 2018 at 11:31:32, zahra wrote:
hello every one.
i wish that find list of browsers based on chrome and based on
firefox and level of there accessibility.
how can i find such list?
can someone please send me the link?
also, did someone test opera recently to see its accessibility?
how about chromium, slimjet and vivaldi?
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!


Re: i need list of accessible browsers

 

there isn't much of a list anyway.

1.  internet explorer, though thats old, insecure and crashes a lot.

2.  edge, its a replacement but you choose if you like it.

3.  chrome, just about everyone uses this somewhere it can be good or not you choose.

4.  waterfox, this may change but its old firefox with a bit more improvement.

5.  firefox esr 52 which is fine or 60 which well I don't use.

6.  firefox normal which I don't use but if you have a fast cpu and loads of ram and don't need to fiddle with visual controls its probably ok.

7.  opera, unknown myself.

Those are the major platforms the blind can use.

of course, thats subjective.

There are loads of ports for web brousers, there are older ports and shells for internet explorer like webformatter or web ie but these are out of date and antivirus can mark them as a problem.

Over that you have choice.

Web brousers that may work are sea monkey, the origional mozilla engine, netscape communicater 4x 5zx or 3 x.

Internet explorer 8 if you can find it, or 6 if you can find it but not much runs on that.

Your best bet if you have no idea is to be safe.

Safe brousers right now for me are waterfox and chrome and maybe firefox?

Ie is good for a few things but I wouldn't trust my data to it unless a site needs it, some things just crash with other stuff <sigh>

Edge, is edge.

Status may be heading towards accessibility but with ms being ms the trust I have for win10 is as only good as the current build I am on.

Every build requires you to relearn some of it, in most cases I have been able to for the most part shut down all the new stuff I don't care about and continue as I am.

I am concerned with microsoft getting github though.

Lets see, shut down everything so everyone needs to use microsoft software.

Lets hope microsoft are not brought out by twitter.

On 6/4/2018 10:31 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
If you're looking for a list which is tuned to your personal criteria, then
you are the best person to create such a list, based on your own assessment of
what works well and what doesn't.

If you're looking for a general list which may be applicable to people other
than yourself, then I think I've already given reasons why it doesn't exist.


Antony.

On Monday 04 June 2018 at 12:21:27, zahra wrote:

hi antony,
for number 2, as you know, i only have nvda on windows and dont know
and dont have any operating systems and screen reader except windows
and nvda.
i dont use video websites, online shopp, games, messengers, etc.
so, i need the information for general usage of browsers in
accessibility with nvda,
the browsers that are based on gecko and chrome,
and also specially about the browsers that i mentioned there names in
my previous comment.
please help, thanks so much, God bless you!

On 6/4/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
I do not think you will find such a list, because:

1. browsers change too quickly, with new releases, bug fixes, extra
features etc, so it would be a lot of work to keep any list up to date
with these changes

2. there isn't a single measure of "accessibility" because some browser
features work better with NVDA than with JAWS, some work better with JAWS
than with Voiceover, some work better with Braille than with speech
output, so there isn't a single way of measuring the accessibility of a
browser that is meaningful to everyone

3. it also depends on what sort of websites you visit and what you want
to do with your browser, so for some purposes and users one browser /
screenreader combination may be best, but for other uses and users that
may not be the best choice.


Regards,


Antony.

On Monday 04 June 2018 at 11:31:32, zahra wrote:
hello every one.
i wish that find list of browsers based on chrome and based on firefox
and level of there accessibility.
how can i find such list?
can someone please send me the link?
also, did someone test opera recently to see its accessibility?
how about chromium, slimjet and vivaldi?
i appreciate any help, God bless you all!


Re: external serial synthesisers

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But as usb sound devices are now so cheap one can direct that to other places say for doing radio broadcasts etc.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] external serial synthesisers


The Dectalk ability you have is likely an illegal add on. And no Dectalk software, legal or illegal, has been as good as the old Dectalk external synthesizers or as the software emulations such as Text Assist, available a long time ago.

At some point, the code for DectTalk was lost. Attempts have been made to reconstruct it, but no reconstruction is as good as the old code.

plus using an external synthesizer of any kind removes the problem of using a single sound card with what you hear to record audio with no speech from the screen-reader.

Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] external serial synthesisers


Do you really need this? I have a dectalk software emulation as an add on on
my nvda, not sure where it came from though.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 8:55 AM
Subject: [nvda] external serial synthesisers




Morning all,

I want to use NVDA current release, with an old but lovely dectalk
express, connected to com3 at the present.

Where should I point the old borwser to locate a suitable set of drivers
for this device?

Many thanks.




Re: Microsoft is acquiring Github

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I guess it depends very much on their reasons for buying it. One assumes it means making money so I'd vee very wary about that for a start. If they got it and shut it all down a heck of a lot of people would be inconvenienced and have to find a new home.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Florian Ionașcu" <florianionascu@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 7:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft is acquiring Github


Hello everyone!
Well, I know that the message I'm writting is maybe a bit out off-topic,
but I have a breaking news, especially for NVDA's developers, as the
NVDA project is hosted on Github. Microsoft is preparing to acquire this
company, as it purchased Skype, LinkedIn, Nokia, and other companies in
the past. I don't know how could we be affected, but it's well to be up
to date with the things that are happening in the world as much as we
can. Read these posts to find out further information.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/?p=52553832
https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/

Cheers,
Florian




Re: Microsoft is acquiring Github

Luis Carlos González Moráles
 

Well, not only for NVDA, also for eSpeak NG, the synth integrated on it.

Florian Ionașcu wrote:

Hello everyone!
Well, I know that the message I'm writting is maybe a bit out off-topic,
but I have a breaking news, especially for NVDA's developers, as the
NVDA project is hosted on Github. Microsoft is preparing to acquire this
company, as it purchased Skype, LinkedIn, Nokia, and other companies in
the past. I don't know how could we be affected, but it's well to be up
to date with the things that are happening in the world as much as we
can. Read these posts to find out further information.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/?p=52553832
https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/

Cheers,
Florian




Re: reading very big texts in command-line applications, for example sdkmanager #addonrelease #addonrelesae

Vova Mobile
 

Thank you all!
command |More solved my problem
To scrolling i press space


Microsoft is acquiring Github

 

Hello everyone!
Well, I know that the message I'm writting is maybe a bit out off-topic,
but I have a breaking news, especially for NVDA's developers, as the
NVDA project is hosted on Github. Microsoft is preparing to acquire this
company, as it purchased Skype, LinkedIn, Nokia, and other companies in
the past. I don't know how could we be affected, but it's well to be up
to date with the things that are happening in the world as much as we
can. Read these posts to find out further information.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/?p=52553832
https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/

Cheers,
Florian


Re: Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1

Walker, Michael E
 

Thank you for these instructions. My company has its own enterprise app store, so I just install SQL Developer, and it does what it is configured to do with dependencies like the JDK. I will have to see if my enterprise tech support can interpret these instructions, and tailor them based on the enterprise app store.

Thanks again,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1

Michael
Below are some instructions I wrote some time ago regarding getting NVDA to link up with JAB. NVDA is a 32-bit program and needs to use the 32-bit access bridge. To check if NVDA is using the JAB dll, open the NVDA log file and working from the beginning, check there are no warning messages mentioning "access bridge". If you get to the line "NVDA initialized", without finding a warning message, then NVDA should be accessing the access bridge dll. If you do find a message, you may need the 32-bit Java Runtime
Environment downloading to get the correct dll for NVDA to use.

These are the instructions as I wrote them ...

For 64-bit Windows machines, you should install both the 64 and 32-bit versions of the Java Runtime Environment (JRE), for 32-bit Windows machines, only the 32-bit JRE is required. Note: if you use the Java Development Kit (JDK), you do not need JRE as the relevant DLL's are included however, JAB dll-s stil need to be in the relevant folders, so please apply the rules below to get JAB to work with your screen reader..

The Java installers are notoriously bad at putting files associated with the Java Access Bridge (JAB) into the correct folders, particularly on 64-bit Windows systems and it is sometimes necessary to do the task manually.
Below are the details for putting JAB files into the correct folders on Windows systems.

64-bit Windows
1A. After installing both 64-bit and 32-bit JRE's, ensure the following dll files are in the folders shown and are dated the day you ran the respective JRE installation package:
Windows\System32\WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll
Windows\SysWow64\WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll

2A. If either/both dll is missing or has the wrong date, you can find them in the following folders:
Program Files\Java\jrex.x.x_y\WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll
Program Files(X86)\Java\jrex.x.x_y\WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll

Where x.x.x is the Java version number and y is the java update number. You may copy missing dll's from these locations to those locations detailed in 1A above.

32-bit Windows
1B. After installing the 32-bit JRE, ensure the following dll file is in the folder shown and is dated the day you ran the JRE installation package:
Windows\System32\WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll

2B. If the dll is missing or has the wrong date, you can find it in the following folder:
Program Files\Java\jrex.x.x_y\WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll

Where x.x.x is the Java version number and y is the java update number. You may copy the missing dll from this location to the location detailed in 1B above.

Additional Note:
I have had a situation where I could not do a manual copy of a dll due to there being an existing copy in the target folder, pre-dating the one I was wanting to copy, which was currently in use so unable to be replaced. I quit my screen reader and used Narrator to complete the copy process.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: 4 June 2018 17:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1

Hi Chris,

How can I tell which version of JAB NVDA is using?

It looks like Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 is using JDK 1.7.0_67 64-bit, judging by going to C:\Program Files\jdk1.7.0_67\bin. I see a file in that bin directory called jabswitch.exe.

Thanks,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1

Hi Michael
Is the 32-bit JAB installed and being used by NVDA?
Is NVDA not working at all with your software or is it working but not very well?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: 4 June 2018 16:42
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Java Access Bridge issue with Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1

Hello,

I need to be able to get Oracle's SQL Developer 4.0 to work, for my job, and its work assignment. Is there an NVDA add-on for NVDA 2018.1.1 on Windows 10, that will enhance NVDA's performance with Java Access Bridge? I am on Windows 10.

Thank you,
Mike