Re: Accessibilitycentral.net - Gene NZ's Website
Yeah great site. You are Bryan VG LOL! Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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From: Brian VogelSent: Friday, June 8, 2018 2:34 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: [nvda] Accessibilitycentral.net - Gene NZ's Website Although I'm not Gene NZ, I have sent many a seeker of information and tutorials to http://accessibilitycentral.net/ to find both.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Accessibilitycentral.net - Gene NZ's Website
Although I'm not Gene NZ, I have sent many a seeker of information and tutorials to http://accessibilitycentral.net/ to find both. --
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134
Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: how to get your web site
Hi gene I wish to access your private website to look for some tutorials. Is it possible to send me the link please? Thanks in advance Anthony
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand Sent: 06 June 2018 22:49 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: how to get your web site Are you sure. I have no problems with either 3 of the versions you just need to learn new tricks unless programs are totally not accessible but these are useable. Gene nz On 6/7/2018 7:31 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote: Hi all of you.
Pulling out of nvda skype group now because of 1, skypes uncertain future and 2. the fact I hardly contribute to it, I will shift all my conversational contributions to this list from now on if I havn't allready.
I will still use skype classic for family, but due to things as they stand I may have to remove skype from my contact and other info, it will be email for internationals only, skype if they need, but I will no longer advertise.
Microsoft has lost another user, skype classic interface is easy to understand, the new one I just don't care for.
Its a pitty its got to end this way but I may as well cut my losses right now rather than having to bother with things going bang.
I will have to either search for another solution or start paying high charges for international calls because skype new versions are inaccessible.
Way to go ms.
Can't skype classic just be pulled from the update loop and still be kept active?
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Using Braille tethered to Review on a notebook
The machine has no setting that simulates a numpad with numeric lock off. I use a Braille display. I would like to work with cmd and with ssh on my Linux machines. Is there a solution? Why does Braille have to be tethered to the review cursor anyway? Thanks, John -- John J. Boyer Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org website: http://www.abilitiessoft.orgStatus: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services that are available at no cost
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Re: NvDA Remote Support add-on: emergency hotfix for wxPython 4 users posted
Hi, You need to use NVDA next branch snapshots. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 11:18 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NvDA Remote Support add-on: emergency hotfix for wxPython 4 users posted can I get the perticular snapshot that I would need to test? you have several snapshots and I can't tell what is what Hank On 6/8/2018 11:16 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi, I need to see a report of people experiencing issues when using DictationBridge with NVDA next snapshots. Cheers, Joseph can you make one for dictation bridge as well? On 6/8/2018 11:11 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi all, I created an emergency hotfix version of Remote add-on 2.1 that makes it compatible with wxPython 4 (NVDA next snapshots at the moment). Until this hotfix is part of official Remote add-on package, please consider this as a third-party hotfix. Download link: http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/remote-2.1wxPy4.nvda-addon Cheers, Jsoeph
-- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Sure, you can. You could do this locally with an oCR package, probably, even if you have to take an extra conversion step from the .tif image file or whatever. This online tool has good reviews, so it’s probably decent. Haven’t tried it, but maybe it’ll get you started. https://convertio.co/txt-jpg/
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io Sent: June 8, 2018 1:27 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] conversion info can one convert text into jpg immages?
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Re: NvDA Remote Support add-on: emergency hotfix for wxPython 4 users posted
can I get the perticular snapshot that I would need to test?
you have several snapshots and I can't tell what is what
Hank
On 6/8/2018 11:16 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I need to
see a report of people experiencing issues when using
DictationBridge with NVDA next snapshots.
Cheers,
Joseph
can you make one for dictation bridge as well?
On 6/8/2018 11:11 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
I created an emergency hotfix version of
Remote add-on 2.1 that makes it compatible with wxPython 4
(NVDA next snapshots at the moment). Until this hotfix is
part of official Remote add-on package, please consider this
as a third-party hotfix.
Download link:
http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/remote-2.1wxPy4.nvda-addon
Cheers,
Jsoeph
--
check out my song on youtube
https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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check out my song on youtube
https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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Re: NvDA Remote Support add-on: emergency hotfix for wxPython 4 users posted
Hi, I need to see a report of people experiencing issues when using DictationBridge with NVDA next snapshots. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 11:14 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NvDA Remote Support add-on: emergency hotfix for wxPython 4 users posted can you make one for dictation bridge as well? On 6/8/2018 11:11 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi all, I created an emergency hotfix version of Remote add-on 2.1 that makes it compatible with wxPython 4 (NVDA next snapshots at the moment). Until this hotfix is part of official Remote add-on package, please consider this as a third-party hotfix. Download link: http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/remote-2.1wxPy4.nvda-addon Cheers, Jsoeph
-- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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Re: NvDA Remote Support add-on: emergency hotfix for wxPython 4 users posted
can you make one for dictation bridge as well?
On 6/8/2018 11:11 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
I created an emergency hotfix version of
Remote add-on 2.1 that makes it compatible with wxPython 4
(NVDA next snapshots at the moment). Until this hotfix is part
of official Remote add-on package, please consider this as a
third-party hotfix.
Download link:
http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/remote-2.1wxPy4.nvda-addon
Cheers,
Jsoeph
--
check out my song on youtube
https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 10:26 am, Kerryn Gunness wrote:
can one convert text into jpg immages?
No. --
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134
Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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NvDA Remote Support add-on: emergency hotfix for wxPython 4 users posted
Hi all, I created an emergency hotfix version of Remote add-on 2.1 that makes it compatible with wxPython 4 (NVDA next snapshots at the moment). Until this hotfix is part of official Remote add-on package, please consider this as a third-party hotfix. Download link: http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/remote-2.1wxPy4.nvda-addon Cheers, Jsoeph
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hi
can one convert text into jpg immages?
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I am not aware of any add ons on it thanks I'll
read this and thanks Gene much apreciate all this info!
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox
Quantum?
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 08:14 am, Danni wrote:
Is it supposed to work with NVDA and if so any idea why it takes
so long to load? What add-ons are you using? This
sounds like it could very well be an issue with an add-on. I would
definitely try restarting Firefox in its safe mode (which is unrelated to
Windows Safe Mode) and see if the issue persists. Take a look
at: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode --
Brian
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Windows
10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134
Explanations exist;
they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every
human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The
Sage of Baltimore
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this is good information to know
thanks for sending this
I keep hearing mention of cobra screen reader is this no longer being made?
I know this is off topic so please email me off list
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On 6/8/2018 7:35 AM, Christopher Gray wrote: Hi:
I did figure out how to contact Magix and got the following response, actually a pretty good response.
Does anybody know about NVDA and this QT Framework? Is this something that is being addressed in NVDA at all?
It sounds to me like these guys could be interested in helping.
Chris
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 12:21:29 +0200 From: MAGIX Support <support@magix.net> To: chris@moblind.org Subject: Re: [Ticket#2018051617008471] Ihre Anfrage an den Kundendienst
Greetings Chris,
Thank you for contacting us. I have discussed it with our developers, and I have also researched the NVDA and Cobra screen readers, and it is our opinion that the problem is caused by the new interface for SFAS 12. The new version uses QT framework, and from what I have found, there are many, many complaints from seeing impaired users about difficulties with screen readers interacting with QT framework. I would recommend writing the makers of the screen readers and ask them if they know of an incompatibility issue with QT framework. Of course, if there is, we would be happy to refund your purchase. If you would like, I could send you a trial version of Sound Forge Audio Studio 10...I know it's a bit older, but it uses a different framework, and should work much better with screen reading software. If you want to try that, let me know, and I'll be happy to set it up.
??e apologize to you for the inconvenience of that. I personally see it as a big problem, and I will talk with our developers about what we can do in the future to change this--it should be our goal as a company to make sure all of our programs can function properly when used with a screen reading interface. ??e thank you for your time, and we will await your response. In the meantime, have a great day!
Best regards, Craig Dickerson
MAGIX Software GmbH Supportmanager
Postfach 500109 01067 Dresden Germany
Managing Director: Klaus Schmidt, Jörg Stüber, Aishvarya Agarwal Commercial Register: Berlin Charlottenburg, HRB 127205
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05/16/2018 21:35 - chris@moblind.org wrote: [METADATA_START] Interview: Do you wish to contact Technical Support? -> Music -> My enquiry is about SOUND FORGE Audio Studio 12
Processor: - Intel 7g Operating system: - Windows 7 Memory: - 16g Sound Card: - Onboard HD and Audiobox Graphics Card: - Don't Know, worked fine with Sound forge 10 Browser: - Internet Explorer
[METADATA_END] I use the NVDA screen reader for the blind and Cobra screen reader for the blind. Soundforge 12.5 will not allow me to highlight portions of an audio file and skips around randomly in the file as well. I need somebody to assist me in working directly with the screen reader manufacturer to try and see what is going on.
Thank you.
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Re: end of the line for nvda skype group

Sarah k Alawami
I don't know, I don't use windows 7. You will have to google for this.
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does skype electron needs to update or it can works forever?On 6/8/18, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:Google for and use skype electron. I heard that is a simpler version of skype. It by the way only works on windows 7 so that won't help most of us.
On Jun 8, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
I havn't found a way to stop it updating, however you can continue to download and use classic for now.
On win10 it has no updates so it doesn't ask you to do that.
I have pulled out of the nvda descussion group, and I don't need skype to be active right now.
There should be update settings under advanced but I have not found this at all.
As for the future, eventually everyone will have to use the universal app, maybe but who knows.
I don't need skype, and to be honest I may end up abandoning it and calling the expensive but accessible way over the phone or using email.
On 6/8/2018 6:38 PM, zahra wrote:
hi shaun and all. is it possible to use classic version and ban updating it that never updates to version 8? is there any solution for skype? i just need voice call and reading and sending messages, if it can supports sending files is good, but the most important priority for me is voice call and text message. i dont need group call at this time and it was not be useful for me until now, not sure about my future needs.
On 6/8/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
What about groups and personal things.
One idea for me when skype classic finally dies is to try google hangouts as coolblindtech guys did use it for one of the reviews and the quality of the recording was top notch.
On 6/8/2018 6:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Check out zoom. I use it for all of my business meetings and I have not touched team talk since. You can do screen sharing (yes that is accessible) ) and moe with it. Other users can call in by phone if they want to or need to. I really love it.
On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:56 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
It looks like its not completely the end.
It appears for 7 and 8 users we will have to just not install the skype classic update.
For 10 users, it appears microsoft have left us alone.
Previded we can get the skype classic program, ms doesn't ask us to switch over to the universal.
So at least for the moment they are leaving us alone who knows how long that is but still.
I have not as yet tried this.
The nvda skype group didn't have much traffic and I was thinking of pulling out anyway.
Skype isnot a real issue for me as I hardly use it.
Skype web via miranda works for text, now if I can use it to call skype then fine I guess.
There is zello but I have never figured it out as such.
On the other side those of us on android and ios devices will still be able to use skype,.
This seems to effect desktops, that is windows, mac and linux only.
For group chats there is teamtalk, and tthub.org <http://tthub.org/> are offering competitive rates right now.
I am interested though in some kind of voip or sip app that is easy to use, accessible and can use as a protocol skype calls, messages, groups and file shares which are the only things I ever use.
If that can be done and if I can login with my skype account then fine.
Right now skype classic still works.
Eventually that may die but who knows.
The skype interface with miranda ng is a bit different, I will have to get used to it but right now well.
I don't use skype enough to justify upgrading to anything new, I barely use that much of skype's power as it is.
On 6/7/2018 9:00 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I have to say its not been used here for almost a year now. I find it irritating that such a simple system is not being made available in a basic form for low tech users and without the flashy front end changes every fortnight. Skype always had a reputation of bringing out improvements that broke it, and it seems this has not stopped with Microsoft owning it, sadly. So what else is out there for desktop machines for good quality audio over the internet free? Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:31 PM Subject: [nvda] end of the line for nvda skype group
Hi all of you.
Pulling out of nvda skype group now because of 1, skypes uncertain future and 2. the fact I hardly contribute to it, I will shift all my conversational contributions to this list from now on if I havn't allready.
I will still use skype classic for family, but due to things as they stand I may have to remove skype from my contact and other info, it will be email for internationals only, skype if they need, but I will no longer advertise.
Microsoft has lost another user, skype classic interface is easy to understand, the new one I just don't care for.
Its a pitty its got to end this way but I may as well cut my losses right now rather than having to bother with things going bang.
I will have to either search for another solution or start paying high charges for international calls because skype new versions are inaccessible.
Way to go ms.
Can't skype classic just be pulled from the update loop and still be kept active?
-- By God,were I given all the seven heavenswith all they containin order thatI may disobey Godby depriving an antfrom the husk of a grain of barley,I would not do it.imam ali
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On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 08:14 am, Danni wrote:
Is it supposed to work with NVDA and if so any idea why it takes so long to load?
What add-ons are you using? This sounds like it could very well be an issue with an add-on. I would definitely try restarting Firefox in its safe mode (which is unrelated to Windows Safe Mode) and see if the issue persists. Take a look at: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode --
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134
Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.
~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: get old label tag innerHTML message when I use js to change edit box's label
Did you try with a different browser? I have been having some issues with aria-current attribute not updating in current Chrome versions on Windows 7. One of my sighted peers was trying to see if the AOM was not being updated.
On 6/8/18, 11:07 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of 特種兵" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of afreettears@gmail.com> wrote:
hi all: yesterday, I use js changed a edit box label innerHTML and press tab key got old label innerHTML message with NVDA. example the label innerHTML is "username", when I change "personal" combo box to "company", the label innerHTML be changed to "company name". my braille display show correct new innerHTML "company name" and use up or down arrow key get new message too. but when I use tab key, the voice message is old "username" until I press nvda + F5 reflashed screen. I checked "Report dynamic content changes", still has this question. How can I do something let nvda get new innerHTML message when press tab key? or NVDA will fix this bug. -- thank you for much Logo Kuo from Taiwan
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Perhaps different users have different experiences
after the changes and improvements on the initial changes.
I've probably written about this here before.
Use a portable version of Firefox to avoid the problem of the program
updating. It isn't supposed to but if you use a portable version, even if
it updates, you can have a copy of the program as a backup. just by
copying the folder to another location. Then all you have to do is delete
the folder with the updated version and copy the backup folder to the same
location. Export book marks over time so you can import them into the
backup verxsion after you've copied it to the location where you want it.
You can get portable versions of Firefox
here:
ESR versions are on this page as
well as not ESR versions.
And I think it’s a good idea to
use the portable version even if you don't have this kind of problem. If
it ever becomes corrupted, you can replace it, as I described above. You
don't have to know how to troubleshoot the program. Just replace it with
the backed up version.
Gene
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum?
It loads quite fast for me, as far as I know and I'm using
firefox 60.x I think. All pages load quickly like they are supposed to.
Is it supposed to work with NVDA and if so any idea why it
takes so long to load? my computre updated without my permission "I'd had it
marked never update" and am getting the same problem I did in november when it
updated! I go to a site and wait and wait for it to load or click start escape
taskbar over to page I was waiting on to find it works why is it doing this?
and is there a fix?
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Hmm wish I could say the same but it takes too long
for me so maybe am gonna have to go back to an older version again
sigh!
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox
Quantum?
It loads quite fast for me, as far as I know and I'm using
firefox 60.x I think. All pages load quickly like they are supposed
to.
Is it supposed to work with NVDA and if so any
idea why it takes so long to load? my computre updated without my permission
"I'd had it marked never update" and am getting the same problem I did in
november when it updated! I go to a site and wait and wait for it to load or
click start escape taskbar over to page I was waiting on to find it works
why is it doing this? and is there a fix?
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Re: end of the line for nvda skype group
does skype electron needs to update or it can works forever?
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On 6/8/18, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote: Google for and use skype electron. I heard that is a simpler version of skype. It by the way only works on windows 7 so that won't help most of us.
On Jun 8, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
I havn't found a way to stop it updating, however you can continue to download and use classic for now.
On win10 it has no updates so it doesn't ask you to do that.
I have pulled out of the nvda descussion group, and I don't need skype to be active right now.
There should be update settings under advanced but I have not found this at all.
As for the future, eventually everyone will have to use the universal app, maybe but who knows.
I don't need skype, and to be honest I may end up abandoning it and calling the expensive but accessible way over the phone or using email.
On 6/8/2018 6:38 PM, zahra wrote:
hi shaun and all. is it possible to use classic version and ban updating it that never updates to version 8? is there any solution for skype? i just need voice call and reading and sending messages, if it can supports sending files is good, but the most important priority for me is voice call and text message. i dont need group call at this time and it was not be useful for me until now, not sure about my future needs.
On 6/8/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
What about groups and personal things.
One idea for me when skype classic finally dies is to try google hangouts as coolblindtech guys did use it for one of the reviews and the quality of the recording was top notch.
On 6/8/2018 6:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Check out zoom. I use it for all of my business meetings and I have not touched team talk since. You can do screen sharing (yes that is accessible) ) and moe with it. Other users can call in by phone if they want to or need to. I really love it.
On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:56 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
It looks like its not completely the end.
It appears for 7 and 8 users we will have to just not install the skype classic update.
For 10 users, it appears microsoft have left us alone.
Previded we can get the skype classic program, ms doesn't ask us to switch over to the universal.
So at least for the moment they are leaving us alone who knows how long that is but still.
I have not as yet tried this.
The nvda skype group didn't have much traffic and I was thinking of pulling out anyway.
Skype isnot a real issue for me as I hardly use it.
Skype web via miranda works for text, now if I can use it to call skype then fine I guess.
There is zello but I have never figured it out as such.
On the other side those of us on android and ios devices will still be able to use skype,.
This seems to effect desktops, that is windows, mac and linux only.
For group chats there is teamtalk, and tthub.org <http://tthub.org/> are offering competitive rates right now.
I am interested though in some kind of voip or sip app that is easy to use, accessible and can use as a protocol skype calls, messages, groups and file shares which are the only things I ever use.
If that can be done and if I can login with my skype account then fine.
Right now skype classic still works.
Eventually that may die but who knows.
The skype interface with miranda ng is a bit different, I will have to get used to it but right now well.
I don't use skype enough to justify upgrading to anything new, I barely use that much of skype's power as it is.
On 6/7/2018 9:00 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I have to say its not been used here for almost a year now. I find it irritating that such a simple system is not being made available in a basic form for low tech users and without the flashy front end changes every fortnight. Skype always had a reputation of bringing out improvements that broke it, and it seems this has not stopped with Microsoft owning it, sadly. So what else is out there for desktop machines for good quality audio over the internet free? Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:31 PM Subject: [nvda] end of the line for nvda skype group
Hi all of you.
Pulling out of nvda skype group now because of 1, skypes uncertain future and 2. the fact I hardly contribute to it, I will shift all my conversational contributions to this list from now on if I havn't allready.
I will still use skype classic for family, but due to things as they stand I may have to remove skype from my contact and other info, it will be email for internationals only, skype if they need, but I will no longer advertise.
Microsoft has lost another user, skype classic interface is easy to understand, the new one I just don't care for.
Its a pitty its got to end this way but I may as well cut my losses right now rather than having to bother with things going bang.
I will have to either search for another solution or start paying high charges for international calls because skype new versions are inaccessible.
Way to go ms.
Can't skype classic just be pulled from the update loop and still be kept active?
-- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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