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Re: end of the line for nvda skype group

 

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:05 am, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I don't need skype, and to be honest I may end up abandoning it and calling the expensive but accessible way over the phone
For those who have Google accounts, it's worth looking at Google Hangouts.  However, in order to be able to send/receive text messages to phones you also need to get a phone number from Google Voice, which is available only within the USA.  You can, however, make calls with Hangouts no matter where you are, I believe.
 
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URL links

Brennen Kinch
 

hi does anyone know if there’s a way to take a URL link and convert it into an HTML file


Re: accessible money

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

We have what I think is a really good system here in Canada. Coins for small denominations (up to two dollars), and $5, $10, $20, $50 and $100 bills. The new bills are made of a kind of plasticised paper that can still tear but doesn’t wrinkle easily and is somewhat water-resistant. The bills have tactile markings on them, that resemble full braille cells. You can detect the denomination by counting the number of cells on the bill. This works better, I think, than putting braille numbers on bills, because a single dot could easily be rubbed out, but the impression of a full cell usually remains intact.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: June 8, 2018 9:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

 

Hi Kerryn,

 

If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do.  Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage.  The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights.  In the United States, we like our paper money.  There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters.  However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance.  Good luck.

 

 

On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

hi

we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually  impaired persons

what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc

thanks

 



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Re: accessible money

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Kerryn,


If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do.  Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage.  The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights.  In the United States, we like our paper money.  There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters.  However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance.  Good luck.



On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually  impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
 

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: end of the line for nvda skype group

 

Thats the skype 8 program, the program I will want to avoid, skype 7 is simple enough.

I have used electron apps with speech and unless you handle one key press at a time they can be slow, you can't type quickly at all.

On 6/9/2018 3:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Google for and use skype electron. I heard that is a simpler version of skype. It by the way only works on windows 7 so that won't help most of us.

On Jun 8, 2018, at 12:05 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

I havn't found a way to stop it updating, however you can continue to download and use classic for now.

On win10 it has no updates so it doesn't ask you to do that.

I have pulled out of the nvda descussion group, and I don't need skype to be active right now.

There should be update settings under advanced but I have not found this at all.

As for the future, eventually everyone will have to use the universal app, maybe but who knows.

I don't need skype, and to be honest I may end up abandoning it and calling the expensive but accessible way over the phone or using email.




On 6/8/2018 6:38 PM, zahra wrote:
hi shaun and all.
is it possible to use classic version and ban updating it that never
updates to version 8?
is there any solution for skype?
i just need voice call and reading and sending messages, if it can
supports sending files is good, but the most important priority for me
is voice call and text message.
i dont need group call at this time and it was not be useful for me
until now, not sure about my future needs.

On 6/8/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
What about groups and personal things.

One idea for me when skype classic finally dies is to try google
hangouts as coolblindtech guys did use it for one of the reviews and the
quality of the recording was top notch.




On 6/8/2018 6:03 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Check out zoom. I use it for all of my business meetings and I have not
touched team talk since. You can do screen sharing (yes that is
accessible) ) and moe with it. Other users can call in by phone if they
want to or need to. I really love it.

On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:56 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

It looks like its not completely the end.

It appears for 7 and 8 users we will have to just not install the skype
classic update.

For 10 users, it appears microsoft have left us alone.

Previded we can get the skype classic program, ms doesn't ask us to
switch over to the universal.

So at least for the moment they are leaving us alone who knows how long
that is but still.

I have not as yet tried this.

The nvda skype group didn't have much traffic and I was thinking of
pulling out anyway.

Skype isnot a real issue for me as I hardly use it.

Skype web via miranda works for text, now if I can use it to call skype
then fine I guess.

There is zello but I have never figured it out as such.

On the other side those of us on android and ios devices will still be
able to use skype,.

This seems to effect desktops, that is windows, mac and linux only.

For group chats there is teamtalk, and tthub.org <http://tthub.org/> are
offering competitive rates right now.

I am interested though in some kind of voip or sip app that is easy to
use, accessible and can use as a protocol skype calls, messages, groups
and file shares which are the only things I ever use.

If that can be done and if I can login with my skype account then fine.

Right now skype classic still works.

Eventually that may die but who knows.

The skype interface with miranda ng is a bit different, I will have to
get used to it but right now well.

I don't use skype enough to justify upgrading to anything new, I barely
use that much of skype's power as it is.




On 6/7/2018 9:00 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I have to say its not been used here for almost a year now.
I find it irritating that such a simple system is not being made
available in a basic form for low tech users and without the flashy
front end changes every fortnight. Skype always had a reputation of
bringing out improvements that broke it, and it seems this has not
stopped with Microsoft owning it, sadly.
So what else is out there for desktop machines for good quality audio
over the internet free?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss"
<sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] end of the line for nvda skype group


Hi all of you.

Pulling out of nvda skype group now because of 1, skypes uncertain
future and 2. the fact I hardly contribute to it, I will shift all my
conversational contributions to this list from now on if I havn't
allready.

I will still use skype classic for family, but due to things as they
stand I may have to remove skype from my contact and other info, it
will be email for internationals only, skype if they need, but I will
no longer advertise.

Microsoft has lost another user, skype classic interface is easy to
understand, the new one I just don't care for.

Its a pitty its got to end this way but I may as well cut my losses
right now rather than having to bother with things going bang.

I will have to either search for another solution or start paying high
charges for international calls because skype new versions are
inaccessible.

Way to go ms.

Can't skype classic just be pulled from the update loop and still be
kept active?







accessible money

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually  impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
 


Re: NvDA Remote Support add-on: emergency hotfix for wxPython 4 users posted

Jonathan Milam
 

Thanks very much, Joseph. I absolutely depend on this add-on to do my job, and without it, I would really be in an impossible jam. Thanks again for helping keep this add-on up-to-date.

Jonathan


On Jun 8, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I created an emergency hotfix version of Remote add-on 2.1 that makes it compatible with wxPython 4 (NVDA next snapshots at the moment). Until this hotfix is part of official Remote add-on package, please consider this as a third-party hotfix.

 

Download link:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/remote-2.1wxPy4.nvda-addon

 

Cheers,

Jsoeph


Re: conversion info

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


not a problem brian
no worries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] conversion info

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:04 pm, Kerryn Gunness wrote:
i got through
i copied the text from ms word and pasted it into paint,
then in  paint, i saved the file as jpg
I misinterpreted your original question entirely.  I thought you were somehow trying to take a file of text and run some sort of converter on it to make an image, which you can't really do.

You used one of the easiest ways to take text and insert it into an image file, even if that image is strictly of the text.
 
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     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: conversion info

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] conversion info

Nice job. I wouldn’t have thought so, but apparently, this works.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: June 8, 2018 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] conversion info

 

i got through

i copied the text from ms word and pasted it into paint,

then in  paint, i saved the file as jpg

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 2:13 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] conversion info

 

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 10:26 am, Kerryn Gunness wrote:

can one convert text into jpg immages?

No.
 
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     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: Addint a Desktop Shortcut for Programs or Apps under Windows 10

brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
 

    What I do if I want a program on my desk top is press windows key r then shell:appsfolder then enter.  After I have the program on my desk top I use f 2 to change the icon from short cut to the name of the program. 

Brian Sackrider


On 6/6/2018 1:09 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

The following uses JAWS commands for a couple of things, but any NVDA user should be able to "translate" to NVDA with relative ease.


Creating a Desktop Shortcut for a Program/App Under Windows 10

             by Bill White

1. Go to your desktop and make sure nothing is selected. To do this: press CONTROL plus SPACE, then JAWS (or other screen reader) should say, “Not Selected.”  If you need to, hit CTRL+SPACE again.

2. Press Applications/Menu Key or SHIFT plus F10, and Arrow down to the New Submenu, then press ENTER.

3. ARROW down to Shortcut then press ENTER.

4. When it asks you to type the location of the shortcut, type:  %windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder

5. TAB to the Next button then press ENTER.

6. When it asks for a name for the shortcut, press the DELETE key then type:  AppsFolder

7. TAB to the Finish button, then press ENTER.

8. Now, on your desktop, you will have a shortcut that reads:  AppsFolder

9. If you press ENTER on this shortcut, a special Windows system folder will open containing all of your apps.

10. Now, create any shortcut for an app as follows:

11. Press ENTER on the AppsFolder icon.

12. Use First-letter Navigation to find and select the app for which you want the shortcut on your desktop.

13. ARROW down to Create Shortcut, then press ENTER.

14. When it tells you that a shortcut can’t be created here, and it asks if you want a shortcut on the desktop, press ENTER on Yes.

15. That’s it. Now you will have a shortcut for your desired app on the desktop, along with the AppsFolder shortcut, which you can use later when you need to create another desktop shortcut.

 

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 



Re: conversion info

 

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:51 pm, Brennen Kinch wrote:
speaking of conversions does anyone know if you can take a URL link and convert it into an Html file
Are you asking how to save a webpage as HTML source?  That can be done in any web browser.  In Chrome it's under the More Tools submenu, Save page as item and in Firefox it's in the main menu, same option name as Chrome uses.

If you're asking about a utility that you can hand a URL and have it generate HTML for embedding, for instance, they definitely exist.  See:  https://www.textfixer.com/html/convert-url-to-html-link.php  for one that you can use online.  A command line version has to exist, too, but I didn't dig long enough to find that.
 
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     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: conversion info

Brennen Kinch
 

speaking of conversions does anyone know if you can take a URL link and convert it into an Html file


On Jun 8, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:04 pm, Kerryn Gunness wrote:
i got through
i copied the text from ms word and pasted it into paint,
then in  paint, i saved the file as jpg
I misinterpreted your original question entirely.  I thought you were somehow trying to take a file of text and run some sort of converter on it to make an image, which you can't really do.

You used one of the easiest ways to take text and insert it into an image file, even if that image is strictly of the text.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: Sound Forge 12.5

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  It depends upon which version of the QT framework is being used.  As far as I know, The earlier versions, up to version 4 of the framework in question is sketchy at best, when it comes to accessibility.  QT5, the latest and most up-to-date version is now much more accessible out of the box.  Cheers!

On 6/8/2018 10:37 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Glad to see the below message. Please have the developer contact NV Access via info@nvaccess.org.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christopher Gray
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 7:36 AM
To: NVDA Mailing List <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Sound Forge 12.5

Hi:

I did figure out how to contact Magix and got the following response, actually a pretty good response.

Does anybody know about NVDA and this QT Framework? Is this something that is being addressed in NVDA at all?

It sounds to me like these guys could be interested in helping.

Chris

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 12:21:29 +0200
From: MAGIX Support <support@magix.net>
To: chris@moblind.org
Subject: Re: [Ticket#2018051617008471] Ihre Anfrage an den Kundendienst

Greetings Chris,

Thank you for contacting us. I have discussed it with our developers, and I have also researched the NVDA and Cobra screen readers, and it is our opinion that the problem is caused by the new interface for SFAS 12. The new version uses QT framework, and from what I have found, there are many, many complaints from seeing impaired users about difficulties with screen readers interacting with QT framework. I would recommend writing the makers of the screen readers and ask them if they know of an incompatibility issue with QT framework. Of course, if there is, we would be happy to refund your purchase. If you would like, I could send you a trial version of Sound Forge Audio Studio 10...I know it's a bit older, but it uses a different framework, and should work much better with screen reading software. If you want to try that, let me know, and I'll be happy to set it up.

??e apologize to you for the inconvenience of that. I personally see it as a big problem, and I will talk with our developers about what we can do in the future to change this--it should be our goal as a company to make sure all of our programs can function properly when used with a screen reading interface.
??e thank you for your time, and we will await your response. In the meantime, have a great day!

Best regards,
Craig Dickerson

MAGIX Software GmbH
Supportmanager

Postfach 500109
01067 Dresden
Germany

Managing Director: Klaus Schmidt, Jörg Stüber, Aishvarya Agarwal Commercial Register: Berlin Charlottenburg, HRB 127205

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05/16/2018 21:35 - chris@moblind.org wrote: [METADATA_START]
Interview: Do you wish to contact Technical Support? -> Music -> My enquiry is about SOUND FORGE Audio Studio 12

Processor:
- Intel 7g
Operating system:
- Windows 7
Memory:
- 16g
Sound Card:
- Onboard HD and Audiobox
Graphics Card:
- Don't Know, worked fine with Sound forge 10
Browser:
- Internet Explorer

[METADATA_END]
I use the NVDA screen reader for the blind and Cobra screen reader for the blind.
Soundforge 12.5 will not allow me to highlight portions of an audio file and skips around randomly in the file as well. I need somebody to assist me in working directly with the screen reader manufacturer to try and see what is going on.

Thank you.

Chris
[METADATA_START]

Weitere registrierte Produkte:
Audio Cleaning Lab
Sound Forge Audio Studio
iZotope Ozone 8 Elements
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Re: conversion info

 

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 12:04 pm, Kerryn Gunness wrote:
i got through
i copied the text from ms word and pasted it into paint,
then in  paint, i saved the file as jpg
I misinterpreted your original question entirely.  I thought you were somehow trying to take a file of text and run some sort of converter on it to make an image, which you can't really do.

You used one of the easiest ways to take text and insert it into an image file, even if that image is strictly of the text.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: conversion info

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Nice job. I wouldn’t have thought so, but apparently, this works.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: June 8, 2018 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] conversion info

 

i got through

i copied the text from ms word and pasted it into paint,

then in  paint, i saved the file as jpg

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 2:13 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] conversion info

 

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 10:26 am, Kerryn Gunness wrote:

can one convert text into jpg immages?

No.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: conversion info

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 


i got through
i copied the text from ms word and pasted it into paint,
then in  paint, i saved the file as jpg
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] conversion info

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 10:26 am, Kerryn Gunness wrote:
can one convert text into jpg immages?
No.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: how to get your web site

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Anthony,


The site is www.accessibilitycentral.net.


Hope this helps.


Rosemarie

On 6/8/2018 11:30 AM, anthony borg wrote:
Hi gene
I wish to access your private website to look for some tutorials.
Is it possible to send me the link please?
Thanks in advance
Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 06 June 2018 22:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: how to get your web site

Are you sure.


I have no problems with either 3 of the versions you just need to learn new tricks unless programs are totally not accessible but these are useable.


Gene nz



On 6/7/2018 7:31 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi all of you.

Pulling out of nvda skype group now because of 1, skypes uncertain
future and 2. the fact I hardly contribute to it, I will shift all my
conversational contributions to this list from now on if I havn't
allready.

I will still use skype classic for family, but due to things as they
stand I may have to remove skype from my contact and other info, it
will be email for internationals only, skype if they need, but I will
no longer advertise.

Microsoft has lost another user, skype classic interface is easy to
understand, the new one I just don't care for.

Its a pitty its got to end this way but I may as well cut my losses
right now rather than having to bother with things going bang.

I will have to either search for another solution or start paying high
charges for international calls because skype new versions are
inaccessible.

Way to go ms.

Can't skype classic just be pulled from the update loop and still be
kept active?









Re: Accessibilitycentral.net - Gene NZ's Website

Lino Morales
 

Yeah great site. You are Bryan VG LOL!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessibilitycentral.net - Gene NZ's Website

 

Although I'm not Gene NZ, I have sent many a seeker of information and tutorials to http://accessibilitycentral.net/ to find both.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 

 


Accessibilitycentral.net - Gene NZ's Website

 

Although I'm not Gene NZ, I have sent many a seeker of information and tutorials to http://accessibilitycentral.net/ to find both.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: how to get your web site

anthony borg
 

Hi gene
I wish to access your private website to look for some tutorials.
Is it possible to send me the link please?
Thanks in advance
Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 06 June 2018 22:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: how to get your web site

Are you sure.


I have no problems with either 3 of the versions you just need to learn new tricks unless programs are totally not accessible but these are useable.


Gene nz



On 6/7/2018 7:31 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi all of you.

Pulling out of nvda skype group now because of 1, skypes uncertain
future and 2. the fact I hardly contribute to it, I will shift all my
conversational contributions to this list from now on if I havn't
allready.

I will still use skype classic for family, but due to things as they
stand I may have to remove skype from my contact and other info, it
will be email for internationals only, skype if they need, but I will
no longer advertise.

Microsoft has lost another user, skype classic interface is easy to
understand, the new one I just don't care for.

Its a pitty its got to end this way but I may as well cut my losses
right now rather than having to bother with things going bang.

I will have to either search for another solution or start paying high
charges for international calls because skype new versions are
inaccessible.

Way to go ms.

Can't skype classic just be pulled from the update loop and still be
kept active?