----- Original Message -----

From: Howard Traxler

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 8:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

Sorry folks, I know this does not relate to NVDA, but it's my response to Kerryn.

 

Kerryn,

 

 

Here is a solution to the password problem that I have found.  Others here who are much wiser than I will not recommend it and I have not tried it yet; but I think I'm going to.  The software that you download will create a bootable CD that one would used to boot the computer in question.  A program, supposedly, comes up that allows you to do things with your password.  One of them is to remove it.

 

It's kind of a last resort thing for me; but it's the only way I will be able to access this computer.  Others say to reinstall windows; but I don't know of a computer today that comes with an install CD.  I assume there are many packages of this type; but the one I downloaded can be found at:

 

https://www.isumsoft.com/windows-password-refixer/

 

Good luck.

 

Howard

----- Original Message -----

From: Kerryn Gunness via GroupsIo

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

thanks brian

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 7:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

Kerryn,

          No, it will not.

          Passwords exist for a reason:  the security of the owner and their data.  It is incumbent on those setting passwords to do what they require to have access to them if they cannot remember them.  Password security (as in the ability to manipulate them by the admin) has gotten progressively tighter over the years, and for good reason.

          In the case of a Windows 10 computer if one does not have the password you can reinstall Windows 10.  You can also extract data from the hard drive using another computer and connecting it as an external drive.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Howard Traxler

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 8:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

Sorry folks, I know this does not relate to NVDA, but it's my response to Kerryn.

 

Kerryn,

 

 

Here is a solution to the password problem that I have found.  Others here who are much wiser than I will not recommend it and I have not tried it yet; but I think I'm going to.  The software that you download will create a bootable CD that one would used to boot the computer in question.  A program, supposedly, comes up that allows you to do things with your password.  One of them is to remove it.

 

It's kind of a last resort thing for me; but it's the only way I will be able to access this computer.  Others say to reinstall windows; but I don't know of a computer today that comes with an install CD.  I assume there are many packages of this type; but the one I downloaded can be found at:

 

https://www.isumsoft.com/windows-password-refixer/

 

Good luck.

 

Howard

----- Original Message -----

From: Kerryn Gunness via GroupsIo

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

thanks brian

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 7:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

Kerryn,

          No, it will not.

          Passwords exist for a reason:  the security of the owner and their data.  It is incumbent on those setting passwords to do what they require to have access to them if they cannot remember them.  Password security (as in the ability to manipulate them by the admin) has gotten progressively tighter over the years, and for good reason.

          In the case of a Windows 10 computer if one does not have the password you can reinstall Windows 10.  You can also extract data from the hard drive using another computer and connecting it as an external drive.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 

Hi Gene!

Thanks a lot for this!

I already have an account on Github, but I did not know where to even start!

This will help a lot!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 8:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Feed back on creating a ticket in git hub with nvda

 

Hi guys

 

I am putting together a tutorial on making a ticket for nvda in git hub. I know there are users here who do not know how to create one or even where to go or what to do.

 

I know when i do it I put in as much info as i can so hopefully it can be fixed. I just do not want to over do it and make it confusing if they do not have to do it when doing a ticket.

This is in draft so for give any mistakes.

 

Is there stuff i should put into it that i might of left out remember it is for a new user.

 

I will paste in what i have done so far so it can be moved around and is in draft or parts added or deleted.

 

Reporting an issue/bug report to NVACCESS

 

Where to go to issue a bug to be fixed

 

 

If you are a user of the NVDA screen reader wheather you use the next snap shot alfa code, the Master snap shot beata code or the stable version of NVDA that is released to the public, if you come across a bug it can be reported at the following web page at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

 

Getting a Git hub account or simply signing in

 

To report any issues to be fixed you must have a Git Hub account.  .

If you do not have a Git Hub account you will need to go to the sign up link then press the enter key. It will ask you for a user name, email address, password and once done locate the create a account button then press the space bar or enter key for it to be created.

If you already have a account it is just a matter of locating the sign in link and entering your details to log into git hub.

 

 

After you have signed into git hub

 

 

After you have signed into git hub to report a issue on your page you will have some links and buttons and headings. The first button is a search button, the second a create new button, the third a view profile and more button, and a sign out button.

Searching for a issue on git hub

 

 

Before you report a issue/bug report to NVACCESS you will need to do a search to see if any one else has reported the bug. If one can not be found then you will need to open a new new issue. This is a button.

 

 

There are some other buttons there but the one you want is new issue button. Press the enter key on it and a new section will come up and ask you the following.

 

You can arrow through the page to see all the sections.

 

Press the enter key on this button and a new section will appear. You can arrow up and down this page to get all the information there or jump around with B for buttons

 

As you go down the page you will hear the following.

This may depend if you arrow down the page or jump down by buttons. If you jump down by buttons you will hear the following. For example add header text button, add bold text button, add atalic text button, insert a quote button, insert code button, add a link button, add a bulleted list button, add a numbered list button, add a task list button, insert a reply button, Directly mention a user or team, Reference an issue or pull request, browse button, submit new issue button.

You may find it easier to arrow through rather than use single letter navigation keys to get all of the information.

 

They will need to know the following In the header text edit area what the issue is. For example

 

Under the ### Steps to reproduce:

> A list of the steps you take to demonstrate the problem.

> 

> Example:

> 

> 1. Open Chrome

> 2. Browse to www.google.com

> 3. Type "Hello"

> 4. Notice an error sound when enter is pressed.

 

> Please also remember to attach a zip of any files required to reproduce the issue.

 

### Expected behavior:

> Tell us what should happen.

 

### Actual behavior:

> Tell us what happens instead.

 

They will also need to know the NVDA version wheather it is a next-14027,c80e529f

Snap shot, or a master snap shot with its version number. Also wheather it is a portable or installed version of NVDA.

 

They may need other information such as if it was > Example: Running in a VM

 

Windows version:

> Example: Windows 10 Version 1607 Build 14393.1066

 

### Other questions:

 

Does the issue still occur after restarting your PC?

 

Have you tried any other versions of NVDA?

> Please list them and the result

 

Browse…

No files selected.

Attach files by dragging & dropping, selecting them, or pasting from the clipboard. 

 

Under this section would be where you would post your NVDA log.

 

Make sure under the general settings in NVDA it is set to Logging level: debug

 

 

After you have filled in the information that that they require locate the submit new issue button and your ticket will be created.

Please note

 

 

For NVACCESS to try and track down any bugs to be fixed you need to have the steps to recreate the problem you are having. Make sure your Logging level: is set to debug is set under the General settings in NVDA. You can also obtain the log which it produces from the Tool.. view log section in NVDA. A log will be produced after you press the enter key on the view log menu. Press the ALT key until a menu drops down then arrow down to you hear NVDA say save log as then press the ENTER key. NVDA will default to the file name then it is a matter of tabbing until you hear a location to save to you are happy with such as the Desk top then shift/tabbing back to the save button then pressing the enter key on the save button.

 

  

For more information on using Git Hub with a screen reader which goes beyond making a ticket please go to the following link at http://bats.fyi/2016/08/19/mastering-github-with-a-screen-reader-part-1/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gene nz

 

 

Hi guys

I am putting together a tutorial on making a ticket for nvda in git hub. I know there are users here who do not know how to create one or even where to go or what to do.

I know when i do it I put in as much info as i can so hopefully it can be fixed. I just do not want to over do it and make it confusing if they do not have to do it when doing a ticket.

This is in draft so for give any mistakes.

Is there stuff i should put into it that i might of left out remember it is for a new user.

I will paste in what i have done so far so it can be moved around and is in draft or parts added or deleted.

Reporting an issue/bug report to NVACCESS

Where to go to issue a bug to be fixed

If you are a user of the NVDA screen reader wheather you use the next snap shot alfa code, the Master snap shot beata code or the stable version of NVDA that is released to the public, if you come across a bug it can be reported at the following web page at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

Getting a Git hub account or simply signing in

To report any issues to be fixed you must have a Git Hub account.  .

If you do not have a Git Hub account you will need to go to the sign up link then press the enter key. It will ask you for a user name, email address, password and once done locate the create a account button then press the space bar or enter key for it to be created.

If you already have a account it is just a matter of locating the sign in link and entering your details to log into git hub.

After you have signed into git hub

After you have signed into git hub to report a issue on your page you will have some links and buttons and headings. The first button is a search button, the second a create new button, the third a view profile and more button, and a sign out button.

Searching for a issue on git hub

Before you report a issue/bug report to NVACCESS you will need to do a search to see if any one else has reported the bug. If one can not be found then you will need to open a new new issue. This is a button.

There are some other buttons there but the one you want is new issue button. Press the enter key on it and a new section will come up and ask you the following.

You can arrow through the page to see all the sections.

Press the enter key on this button and a new section will appear. You can arrow up and down this page to get all the information there or jump around with B for buttons

As you go down the page you will hear the following.

This may depend if you arrow down the page or jump down by buttons. If you jump down by buttons you will hear the following. For example add header text button, add bold text button, add atalic text button, insert a quote button, insert code button, add a link button, add a bulleted list button, add a numbered list button, add a task list button, insert a reply button, Directly mention a user or team, Reference an issue or pull request, browse button, submit new issue button.

You may find it easier to arrow through rather than use single letter navigation keys to get all of the information.

They will need to know the following In the header text edit area what the issue is. For example

Under the ### Steps to reproduce:

> A list of the steps you take to demonstrate the problem.

> 

> Example:

> 

> 1. Open Chrome

> 2. Browse to www.google.com

> 3. Type "Hello"

> 4. Notice an error sound when enter is pressed.

> Please also remember to attach a zip of any files required to reproduce the issue.

### Expected behavior:

> Tell us what should happen.

### Actual behavior:

> Tell us what happens instead.

They will also need to know the NVDA version wheather it is a next-14027,c80e529f

Snap shot, or a master snap shot with its version number. Also wheather it is a portable or installed version of NVDA.

They may need other information such as if it was > Example: Running in a VM

Windows version:

> Example: Windows 10 Version 1607 Build 14393.1066

### Other questions:

Does the issue still occur after restarting your PC?

Have you tried any other versions of NVDA?

> Please list them and the result

Browse…

No files selected.

Attach files by dragging & dropping, selecting them, or pasting from the clipboard. 

Under this section would be where you would post your NVDA log.

Make sure under the general settings in NVDA it is set to Logging level: debug

After you have filled in the information that that they require locate the submit new issue button and your ticket will be created.

Please note

For NVACCESS to try and track down any bugs to be fixed you need to have the steps to recreate the problem you are having. Make sure your Logging level: is set to debug is set under the General settings in NVDA. You can also obtain the log which it produces from the Tool.. view log section in NVDA. A log will be produced after you press the enter key on the view log menu. Press the ALT key until a menu drops down then arrow down to you hear NVDA say save log as then press the ENTER key. NVDA will default to the file name then it is a matter of tabbing until you hear a location to save to you are happy with such as the Desk top then shift/tabbing back to the save button then pressing the enter key on the save button.

For more information on using Git Hub with a screen reader which goes beyond making a ticket please go to the following link at http://bats.fyi/2016/08/19/mastering-github-with-a-screen-reader-part-1/

Gene nz

----- Original Message -----

From: Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

thanks brian

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 7:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

Kerryn,

          No, it will not.

          Passwords exist for a reason:  the security of the owner and their data.  It is incumbent on those setting passwords to do what they require to have access to them if they cannot remember them.  Password security (as in the ability to manipulate them by the admin) has gotten progressively tighter over the years, and for good reason.

          In the case of a Windows 10 computer if one does not have the password you can reinstall Windows 10.  You can also extract data from the hard drive using another computer and connecting it as an external drive.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 7:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

Kerryn,

          No, it will not.

          Passwords exist for a reason:  the security of the owner and their data.  It is incumbent on those setting passwords to do what they require to have access to them if they cannot remember them.  Password security (as in the ability to manipulate them by the admin) has gotten progressively tighter over the years, and for good reason.

          In the case of a Windows 10 computer if one does not have the password you can reinstall Windows 10.  You can also extract data from the hard drive using another computer and connecting it as an external drive.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:30 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] password remover

No, nor would I recommend any such software, either.

If you wish to avoid entering a password when booting up Windows 10 (or Windows 8) you can make the operating system enter it for you, getting the same effect.  Download the following, for step-by-step instructions:

• To Turn Off the Password Entry Requirement under Win8 or Win10

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 

A friend of mine asked me if there is a way with NVDA to label a graphic such as is possible with Jaws.  I am not aware of a way to do this, and didn’t find a place in the user guide that mentioned it, but maybe I just missed it.

 

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

 

I ended up concluding that it's a problem from Mobile Facebook page.
I've tested it on other websites and surprisingly this doesn't happen.
Out of the mentioned page, it's alright.
Em 10/06/2018 13:29, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:

So are you saying that only in brose mode you can hear the �radio buttons. I think this was also the case on a job application I was reading as well. I had to go into browse mode to check but that was maybe a month ago. I just never �thought about it as I am always in browse mode when trying to fill out forms and stuff.

On Jun 10, 2018, at 1:24 AM, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:

 

Strange. Maybe it's happening only with me?...

Em 10/06/2018 05:17, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi,
Yes, the mobile interface (m.facebook.com).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 1:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Here again, this time asking really about NVDA

Actually, I only can check/uncheck one of those buttons if �I'm with the browse mode. With the focus mode I can do nothing about it.
You're using m.facebook as I said?
Em 10/06/2018 04:56, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi,
So when I try to delete a post with Firefox, when I press Enter on the radio button, NVDA switches me to focus mode and I can then use up and down arrow keys to select a different radio button. NVDA announces selection status as it should. This was also observed with Internet Explorer.
I get a feeling that, perhaps with browse mode, radio button selection status isn't announced right. Is this correct? If so, and if other folks can reproduce this with 2018.1.x:
* If this happens with 2018.1.x as well, then this is either differences in rendering engines, or Facebook made a server-side change.
* If this problem does not happen with 2018.1.x, then it might be 2018.2 issue.
Note that I'm testing these scenarios with latest NVDA next snapshots running on Windows 10.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 12:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Here again, this time asking really about NVDA

Hi,
Okay, we're getting somewhere. Can someone try to reproduce this, and if possible, with other web browsers such as IE, Chrome, and Edge please? Once we get folks to try and reproduce this, we'll know if this is an NVDA regression, browser rendering differences, or something else.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio
via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 12:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Here again, this time asking really about NVDA

I'm using Firefox, latest version, on the mobile Facebook page.
I was trying to delete a post, so I had to check the button to do it.
Then I noticed this.
Em 10/06/2018 04:39, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi there,
Hmmm, I see. Can you go into specifics such as which Facebook page to visit (preferably a public page), whether it is for regular or mobile interface, and web browser you're using?

P.S. For those attending a certain seminar in a few weeks, I'll mention this email thread as a possible case study regarding user interactions and questions to ask them.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio
via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 12:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Here again, this time asking really about NVDA

Any Facebook page with this buttons is having that behavior.
Em 10/06/2018 04:24, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hello,
Can you tell us how we can reproduce this problem please? Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio
via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 12:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Here again, this time asking really about NVDA

So, guys, I'm here again :)
This time, I have a question abo ���ut the latest version of NVDA.
In earlier versions, when I had a radio button I could know if it was checked or unchecked.
Now I can't. I don't know if it's something changed on NVDA itself or if it's happening only with me.
If it's something new from this version, I would like to know how I can do my NVDA back to speak the button's status.

Thanks in advance

Marcio

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 12:13 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

I think the device is only U.S. becase when the U.S. mint makes the bills the paper has little bar codes on the edge.  The device I got cost a hundred dollars.  There might be more devices like the one I have, don’t know!

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 5:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

 

hi all

thanks again

kevin, do you no the cost of the device? also how does one allow the device to recognise their contry's currency?

thanks

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 11:37 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

 

U.S. is accessible, there is a little device you can purchase that you slip the end of a bill into the slot of the device.  There are two settings you can select, identify by vibration or have what denomination the bill is spoken to you.

You can buy this from Future Aids or Maxie Aids.

But I’m sure everyone knows this!

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 7:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

 

Gene <gsasner@...> wrote, in part:

Even if you win, the public resentment and ridicule will create enormous ill will toward the recipients and set the whole cause of acceptance and integration back significantly.

Gene

---My response:

I think that this sort of reasoning insults the intelligence of almost everyone, and it does not make sense either.

I am not worried about ill will being spread on account of me wanting to be sure of what money I am exchanging with a business.

Canadian money and Indian money are reasonably accessible, for just two examples I've used. There is no reason for US money to lag in this respect.

-LM

 

--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 6/9/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Date: Saturday, June 9, 2018, 1:40 PM

 

 But using that argument,

making money accessible

 when it may not be around much longer can be argued to be

spending a good deal

 of money to correct a problem that may not exist so it

shouldn't be done. 

 After all, it would be hard to justify making a building

wheelchair accessible

 if that building were likely to be torn down in two years

and it wasn't

 providing an essential service.

 

Paper money is so much more

convenient than coins,

 that that is why it was adopted in the first place. 

Accessibility is a

 worthy goal, but if accessibility is done at the expense of

what is generally a

 much better system of doing something for people in general,

it's a pyric

 victory.  Even if you win, the public resentment and

ridicule will create

 enormous ill will toward the recipients and set the whole

cause of acceptance

 and integration back significantly.

 

Gene

 ----- Original Message

-----

 

 From: Ron

Canazzi

 Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 7:02 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

 Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible

money

 

 Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more

coins.  They could

 be differently shaped for ease of accessibility.  As far as

the jingling,

 to be honest, less and less people use real money any

more.  So this may

 become a moot point anyway.  For example, we are getting a

group of

 Starbucks's restaurants locally in the Buffalo, New York

area that will accept

 nothing but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how long

there will actually be

 any so called legal tender any more anyway.

 

 

 On 6/8/2018 11:03

PM, Gene wrote:

 

   It isn't

reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done. 

    

   I'll use American denominations in examples since

I don't know your

   denominations.  Who is going to be willing to carry

nothing but

   coins?  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin,

I'm not going to

   want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a

dime and a nickel

   back.  If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and

I'm owed eight

   dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to

receive a five dollar

   coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes.  People

aren't going to walk

   around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets

and wearing out the

   material in their clothes. 

    

   and think of all the different coins you would have

to learn.  The

   penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten,

twenty, fifty,

   assuming you never have a higher denomination. 

    

   Gene

  

   ----- Original Message -----

   

   From: Ron

Canazzi

   

   Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM

   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

   Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible

money

  

 

   Hi Kerryn,

  

 

   If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to

switch to all coinage

   rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to

do.  Most blind

   people here in the United States have no difficulty with

coinage.  The

   pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently

rimmed and of

   different sizes and weights.  In the United States, we

like our paper

   money.  There was great resistance to any change for

large denominations

   than quarters.  However in a smaller country like

Trinidad, you might

   have less resistance.  Good luck.

  

 

 

   On 6/8/2018 8:29

PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io

   wrote:

   

     

     hi

     we in trinidad would like to make our money

accessible to our blind or

     visually  impaired persons

     what guidelines we should work with as to approach

the powers that be,

     in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this

done, in terms of

     technology, tack tile immages etc

     thanks

      

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