Date   

Re: For chrome users.

Matt Turner
 

Yep, I can.

Note though, that the download tab control+j, is closed.

I could be on another website entirely, and still get that alert.

On 6/15/2018 4:32 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Can you switch away from the browser perhaps?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Turner" <meturner2214@gmail.com>
To: "NVDA" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 8:35 PM
Subject: [nvda] For chrome users.


Is there anyway to stop the alert, downloading time left?
Its driving me nuts.




facebook ??

Danni
 

 
I have started having trouble taking pictures from people's facebook pages and am wondering if by chance there is an addon or something that can help?
 
when I try a right click and save target as it calls it a document not a pic am not sure what changed to cause this but figured I'd ask?
 


Re: How to Open an Attachment with NVDA:

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Brian,


Thanks very much for these steps. I was always tabbing until I got to an attachment I wanted to open but now I'll be able to do it with keystrokes.


Rosemarie

On 6/15/2018 11:57 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. since you are using thunderbird 52.8.0, here are the key strokes.

open the message,
then press alt+m to get to the message menu and then h for attachments.

this will put you in a list of your attachments but it operates like a treeview so use up and down arrow to select the one you want and then press right arrow to get a menu of open, save detach etc.

That should get you going.

Brian.



Re: for Windows 7 users Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2 is now available!

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Marilyn,


I think you should be able to go to the "check for updates" and you'll find out if you canupdate your version of NVDA. If not, you'll have to do it through the nv access site which is nvaccess.org.


To find out what version of NVDA you're running, hit the insert key and N to go to the menu. Then arrow down to the help menu and open it with the right arrow. Arrow down to "about" and hit enter on it. You'll hear whart version you're running.


Hope this helps.


Rosemarie



On 6/15/2018 2:43 PM, M & D Bilderback wrote:
 
Hi All,
 
I have a beginners question about NVDA.
Do I need to install the 2017 copy first or can I just go right into the 2018 one?  Also,  how do I find out what NVDA I am using right now?  Told you I was a novice!
 
Marilyn
 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: for Windows 7 users Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2 is now available!
 
That's what it look like, yes.  Which is why upgrading from NVDA 2017.4 or earlier on Windows 7 finds 2018.2, but upgrading from 2018.1 doesn't (from my limited trial on one computer).  We should be able to fix it but in the meantime, downloading the update manually should work.
 
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Your welcome. I wonder if things broke when Windows 7 users didn't, and weren't supposed to get the automatic update notice from the 2018.1 minor update that was rolled out to WinX users? Just a thought.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: for Windows 7 users Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2 is now available!
 
Thanks Travis,

A couple of people have reported this, and we're looking into it.  In the meantime, yes downloading manually should work from https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
 
Sorry for the inconvenience!
 
Of those experiencing this, every report I've seen so far has been from Windows 7 users, is anyone experiencing this on Windows 8 or 10 please?
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:15 AM, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Just a heads up for Windows 7 users: it is necessary to go to the website to download the latest version of NVDA as searching for updates within NVDA itself still says that there are no updates available. As it is now 10 hours since Quentin's announcement, his second mention of it actually on the list, both at 12:15 AM, Pacific Standard time, I feel it safe to mention that the normal method for checking for updates within the NVDA program itself is flawed for now, perhaps to be fixed later on down the line. Thanks.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2 is now available!
 
Hi everyone,
 
Well, if you read my In-Process blog post earlier today and it left you salivating and demanding to know when we would finally release NVDA 2018.2, salivate no more!  NVDA 2018.2 is now available!
 
See the full announcement here:
 
 

NV Access is pleased to announce that version 2018.2 of NVDA, the free screen reader for Microsoft Windows, has now been released.

Highlights of this release include Support for tables in Kindle for PC, support for HumanWare BrailleNote Touch and BI14 Braille displays, Improvements to both Onecore and Sapi5 speech synthesizers, improvements in Microsoft Outlook and much more.

This award-winning software has been changing the lives of thousands of blind and vision impaired people who can now independently use computers to produce written content, read news, socialise, shop and bank online, and, most importantly, actively participate in education and employment. Please consider helping NV Access to continue this important work by becoming a monthly donor.


 
 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess



 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess



 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess



Re: for Windows 7 users Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2 is now available!

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Marilyn,

NVDA updates are not cumulative, so you can always download the latest version and run or install it regardless of whether you have any previous version or not.  If you do have an existing install of NVDA, it will copy the settings over when you install a new version.

The NVDA key will be either INSERT or CAPS LOCK:

To find which version of NVDA you have, press NVDA+N to open the NVDA menu, then H for help, then A for about (it's the bottom item in the help menu).

NVDA 2018.2 is the current version which came out a couple of days ago.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 7:43 AM, M & D Bilderback <djbilderback@...> wrote:
 
Hi All,
 
I have a beginners question about NVDA.
Do I need to install the 2017 copy first or can I just go right into the 2018 one?  Also,  how do I find out what NVDA I am using right now?  Told you I was a novice!
 
Marilyn
 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: for Windows 7 users Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2 is now available!
 
That's what it look like, yes.  Which is why upgrading from NVDA 2017.4 or earlier on Windows 7 finds 2018.2, but upgrading from 2018.1 doesn't (from my limited trial on one computer).  We should be able to fix it but in the meantime, downloading the update manually should work.
 
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Your welcome. I wonder if things broke when Windows 7 users didn't, and weren't supposed to get the automatic update notice from the 2018.1 minor update that was rolled out to WinX users? Just a thought.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: for Windows 7 users Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2 is now available!
 
Thanks Travis,

A couple of people have reported this, and we're looking into it.  In the meantime, yes downloading manually should work from https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
 
Sorry for the inconvenience!
 
Of those experiencing this, every report I've seen so far has been from Windows 7 users, is anyone experiencing this on Windows 8 or 10 please?
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:15 AM, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Just a heads up for Windows 7 users: it is necessary to go to the website to download the latest version of NVDA as searching for updates within NVDA itself still says that there are no updates available. As it is now 10 hours since Quentin's announcement, his second mention of it actually on the list, both at 12:15 AM, Pacific Standard time, I feel it safe to mention that the normal method for checking for updates within the NVDA program itself is flawed for now, perhaps to be fixed later on down the line. Thanks.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2 is now available!
 
Hi everyone,
 
Well, if you read my In-Process blog post earlier today and it left you salivating and demanding to know when we would finally release NVDA 2018.2, salivate no more!  NVDA 2018.2 is now available!
 
See the full announcement here:
 
 

NV Access is pleased to announce that version 2018.2 of NVDA, the free screen reader for Microsoft Windows, has now been released.

Highlights of this release include Support for tables in Kindle for PC, support for HumanWare BrailleNote Touch and BI14 Braille displays, Improvements to both Onecore and Sapi5 speech synthesizers, improvements in Microsoft Outlook and much more.

This award-winning software has been changing the lives of thousands of blind and vision impaired people who can now independently use computers to produce written content, read news, socialise, shop and bank online, and, most importantly, actively participate in education and employment. Please consider helping NV Access to continue this important work by becoming a monthly donor.


 
 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess



 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess



 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: for Windows 7 users Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2 is now available!

Marilyn and Don Bilderback
 

 
Hi All,
 
I have a beginners question about NVDA.
Do I need to install the 2017 copy first or can I just go right into the 2018 one?  Also,  how do I find out what NVDA I am using right now?  Told you I was a novice!
 
Marilyn
 

Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: for Windows 7 users Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2 is now available!
 
That's what it look like, yes.  Which is why upgrading from NVDA 2017.4 or earlier on Windows 7 finds 2018.2, but upgrading from 2018.1 doesn't (from my limited trial on one computer).  We should be able to fix it but in the meantime, downloading the update manually should work.
 
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Your welcome. I wonder if things broke when Windows 7 users didn't, and weren't supposed to get the automatic update notice from the 2018.1 minor update that was rolled out to WinX users? Just a thought.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: for Windows 7 users Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2 is now available!
 
Thanks Travis,

A couple of people have reported this, and we're looking into it.  In the meantime, yes downloading manually should work from https://www.nvaccess.org/download/
 
Sorry for the inconvenience!
 
Of those experiencing this, every report I've seen so far has been from Windows 7 users, is anyone experiencing this on Windows 8 or 10 please?
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:15 AM, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Just a heads up for Windows 7 users: it is necessary to go to the website to download the latest version of NVDA as searching for updates within NVDA itself still says that there are no updates available. As it is now 10 hours since Quentin's announcement, his second mention of it actually on the list, both at 12:15 AM, Pacific Standard time, I feel it safe to mention that the normal method for checking for updates within the NVDA program itself is flawed for now, perhaps to be fixed later on down the line. Thanks.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.2 is now available!
 
Hi everyone,
 
Well, if you read my In-Process blog post earlier today and it left you salivating and demanding to know when we would finally release NVDA 2018.2, salivate no more!  NVDA 2018.2 is now available!
 
See the full announcement here:
 
 

NV Access is pleased to announce that version 2018.2 of NVDA, the free screen reader for Microsoft Windows, has now been released.

Highlights of this release include Support for tables in Kindle for PC, support for HumanWare BrailleNote Touch and BI14 Braille displays, Improvements to both Onecore and Sapi5 speech synthesizers, improvements in Microsoft Outlook and much more.

This award-winning software has been changing the lives of thousands of blind and vision impaired people who can now independently use computers to produce written content, read news, socialise, shop and bank online, and, most importantly, actively participate in education and employment. Please consider helping NV Access to continue this important work by becoming a monthly donor.


 
 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess



 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess



 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: NVDA not speaking my images

James Kinney
 

Thank you, Jonathan and Brian for your responses.  Geez, i can be a dope.  I understand it would be very difficult to diagnose the issue if you couldn't see where it skips.  The image i sent was also not very helpful then.  I should have at least cut and copied the code.  My apologies for that over-site.  

I will follow up on both your leads.  I didn't know about the role=image or ID options.

My hats off to everyone contributing to this project.  I'll make a separate post to volunteer to test.  

Jim Kinney
Thrive Web Solutions
jim@...
619-609-0021



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@...>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 8:28:59 AM
To: Brian's Mail list account; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not speaking my images
 
Also, the WEB-AIM mailing list or the A11Y Sslack channel both have numerous Accessibility professionals on list, there are probably folks on that list that can respond directly. I believe I did see some discussion of wrapping SVG in a div with role="image" and then labeling the div. I can't remember if the label has to be with an aria-label / aria-labeledby attribute  or if you can use the alt attribute.

Some memories indicate to me that you should add an id to the title within the SVG and then use the aria-labeledby attribute to point to that id.

Sorry I don't have time to research my notes on SVG today.

Jonathan
 

On 6/15/18, 11:00 AM, "bglists via groups.io" <bglists@...> wrote:

    I think most if not all of the devs are blind, so you may find it a bit
    difficult to get the issue over. Try a ticket on gather if you think its
    wrong. All I know is that most graphics with alt tags give a description of
    the graphic, according to how detailed the site builder wanted to get of
    course.
     Normally the big messes occur in javascript intense sites.
    I'm not up on html myself, but you need to test the site in different
    browsers too.
     Brian
   
    bglists@...
    Sent via blueyonder.
    Please address personal E-mail to:-
    briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
    in the display name field.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "James Kinney" <jim@...>
    To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
    Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:55 AM
    Subject: [nvda] NVDA not speaking my images
   
   
    Hi.
   
    I'm new to NVDA but am committed to developing websites that are fully
    accessible. I used a custom font with svg logos I uploaded to the font. I
    have used every tag I know about but NVDA doesn't read them. If I highlight
    the same area on my iPhone and ask it to speak my selection if speaks the
    information about the image. I'm hoping you can give me some guidance about
    what I need to add to the code or perhaps a perhaps a setting to change in
    NVDA.
   
    I made a screen print that shows the area and the code behind it. I believe
    this will give you all the information you would need to help me. The screen
    print is at:
   
    https://sandiego-autodetail.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/NVDA-reader-question.png
   
    I also record my iPhone speaking the information and have loaded that short
    video here:
   
    https://sandiego-autodetail.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/iPhone-speaks-the-image-info.MOV
   
    Let me know if you need any additional information. I really appreciate your
    help with this.
   
    Jim
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   





Re: Re waterfox

Jackie
 

Brian, that does not look like an address to download Waterfox to me,
ie. it appears to be a staging address. The address I copied for a
download is:
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/waterfox/new/

You may wish to try substituting en-us for en-uk to see if that works,
in the event UK English is your preference.

On 6/15/18, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
Its probably not malicious I think you can add an exception so you could if
you wish still visit the site
Without an certificate
Just click advanced and click on add exception if you are sure its ok

Water fox as far as I know can be updated through the about menu just click
on update when it shows

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 June 2018 21:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Re waterfox

The question is though, How did I get there in the first place. I was
wondering if it was malicious, but all I did was respond to the alert about

a new version.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Re waterfox


Its an invalid security certificate click on advanced for more info

So basically the certificate has expired and the site admin is asleep on the

job 😃

Go to the official site
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/


From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 June 2018 10:55
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Re waterfox

Anyone know what this is all about?
Your connection is not secure
The owner of staging.waterfoxproject.org has configured their website
improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Waterfox has not
connected to this website.
Learn more.

I tied to download the new version.
Brian


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Re: selling an item on eBay

goshawk on horseback
 

personally, I use shpock, craigslist, and gumtree, plus the sound on sound
readers adds site for relevant gear.

Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] selling an item on eBay


what other sites are people using?


On 6/15/2018 1:24 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Ebay has been going down the pan for a couple of years now, not just
from the blind user perspective. Nobody i talk to has a good word to
say for it these days.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "goshawk on horseback"
<goshawk_on_horseback@fastmail.co.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] selling an item on eBay


if you have one available, you could try the ebay app on either iPhone
or android. I have been telling ebay for some time about there lack of
accessibility on there selling page, but they are simply not
interested in doing anything about it.
my best bit of advice however, would be don't even bother with ebay,
use a different platform, such as shpock or gumtree, or in-fact any
other trading platform that doesn't charge you 10% and then another 4%
for using paypal, and all that to be part of a system that lets buyers
take the waste liquid as much as they like, and gives sellers no
rights at all, which is exactly what the ebay system does!

Simon


----- Original Message ----- From: Giles Turnbull
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 3:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] selling an item on eBay


Hi all,

I regularly buy items from eBay and, in my sighted days, occasionally
sold things too. The other day I noticed a pair of Orcam MyEye talking
OCR glasses that sold and, since I have a pair that I would like to
sell, used the "Have one to sell? Sell it yourself" link.

I am not finding the page for entering the details for my item very
easy to navigate! I can add the photos and I can enter the description
of the item, but navigating, with both tab key or num pad object
navigation, repeatedly takes me back to the item description pane.

Does anybody have any suggestions to make listing an item easier with
NVDA?

I'm using Firefox 60, NVDA 2018.2 and Win10

Thanks for any tips,

Giles








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Re: selling an item on eBay

goshawk on horseback
 

with the way they treat sellers like garbage, and between them and paypal,
charge them 14% for that sort of treatment, I'm not surprised. the problem
is that they have got far too big for there boots, and only something like a
major international boycott of them may get them to take notice of the ever
growing number who are not happy with the way they carry on.

Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] selling an item on eBay


Ebay has been going down the pan for a couple of years now, not just from
the blind user perspective. Nobody i talk to has a good word to say for it
these days.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "goshawk on horseback" <goshawk_on_horseback@fastmail.co.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] selling an item on eBay


if you have one available, you could try the ebay app on either iPhone or
android. I have been telling ebay for some time about there lack of
accessibility on there selling page, but they are simply not interested in
doing anything about it.
my best bit of advice however, would be don't even bother with ebay, use a
different platform, such as shpock or gumtree, or in-fact any other trading
platform that doesn't charge you 10% and then another 4% for using paypal,
and all that to be part of a system that lets buyers take the waste liquid
as much as they like, and gives sellers no rights at all, which is exactly
what the ebay system does!

Simon


----- Original Message -----
From: Giles Turnbull
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 3:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] selling an item on eBay


Hi all,

I regularly buy items from eBay and, in my sighted days, occasionally sold
things too. The other day I noticed a pair of Orcam MyEye talking OCR
glasses that sold and, since I have a pair that I would like to sell, used
the "Have one to sell? Sell it yourself" link.

I am not finding the page for entering the details for my item very easy
to navigate! I can add the photos and I can enter the description of the
item, but navigating, with both tab key or num pad object navigation,
repeatedly takes me back to the item description pane.

Does anybody have any suggestions to make listing an item easier with
NVDA?

I'm using Firefox 60, NVDA 2018.2 and Win10

Thanks for any tips,

Giles


Re: Re waterfox

Chris
 

Its probably not malicious I think you can add an exception so you could if you wish still visit the site

Without an certificate

Just click advanced and click on add exception if you are sure its ok

 

Water fox as far as I know can be updated through the about menu just click on update when it shows

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 June 2018 21:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Re waterfox

 

The question is though, How did I get there in the first place. I was

wondering if it was malicious, but all I did was respond to the alert about

a new version.

Brian

 

bglists@...

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal E-mail to:-

briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 12:59 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Re waterfox

 

 

Its an invalid security certificate click on advanced for more info

 

So basically the certificate has expired and the site admin is asleep on the

job 😃

 

Go to the official site

https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: 15 June 2018 10:55

To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Re waterfox

 

Anyone know what this is all about?

Your connection is not secure

The owner of staging.waterfoxproject.org has configured their website

improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Waterfox has not

connected to this website.

Learn more.

 

I tied to download the new version.

Brian

 

 

bglists@...

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal E-mail to:-

briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

in the display name field.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: For chrome users.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Can you switch away from the browser perhaps?
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Turner" <meturner2214@gmail.com>
To: "NVDA" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 8:35 PM
Subject: [nvda] For chrome users.


Is there anyway to stop the alert, downloading time left?
Its driving me nuts.


Re: Administrative privileges.

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


If it is just asigning the shortcut after you have gone into the
properties tab down to shortcut and asign one.


I think you can only use alt + ctrl + a letter like J for jaws or
another letter.


Make sure you save the settings.


Gene nz

On 6/16/2018 3:03 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
Hi all,

I solved the problem by going to Control Panel and User accounts. But
my problem with assigning a shortcut key to an icon on the desktop
still persists. I press alt+enter to go to properties for the shortcut
I have a problem what to write in the "start in" edit field. The
desktop icon in question is JAWS.
I thank you all for your responses.
Nevzat

On 6/14/18, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nevzat
Only an administrator account can change a standard account to an
administrator account. That is why I asked if there are any other accounts
on the computer. If there are no other accounts, let me know and I'll give
you details of a different method of solving the problem.

You can check if there are any other accounts by pressing Windows+i to open
Settings, then press enter on Accounts. Tab to the list of topics and arrow
down to Family and other people and press enter. Tab to the list of other
account names and types on the machine and see if there is a user account
with administrator privilidges. If there is, get the person to log on using
that account, then they could use this settings process to edit your account
details and change it from standard to administrator.

Cheers
Chris






-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nevzat
Adil
Sent: 14 June 2018 20:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Administrative privileges.

Chris, yes, I get an error message saying I need to have administrator
permission. My operating system is Windows 10. I believe I have
standard user account. I tried to change user account and typed my
name and I was told that user account already exists. If I type
administrator would it change to that?
Nevzat

On 6/14/18, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nevzat
I would have thought you should be able to assign shortcuts as these are
personal to your account and don't affect other users, so should not
require
admin priviledges. If you are using a work computer it maybe that a
corporate group policy is in effect which denies the capability but this
would be unlikely.

As Brian asked, is your user account standard or administrator? Could
you
give us more information, such as operating system being used, work or
home
computer, is yours the only account on the computer etc.

The process I would use to assign a shortcut key is:
Select desktop icon
Press alt+enter to open properties
Tab to the shortcut key control and press the shortcut letter alone, the
CTRL+Alt part of the command is added automatically by Windows
Tab to OK and press enter.

If you get an error after pressing OK, please give full details

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Nevzat
Adil
Sent: 13 June 2018 19:58
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Administrative privileges.

Hi Group,

I am trying to assign shortcut keys to icons on the desktop, but it
won't go through as I am told I have no administrative privileges.
Using NVDA how do I get administrative privilege on my computer?
Your response will be greatly appreciated.
Nevzat











Re: How to Open an Attachment with NVDA:

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Depends what the email software is.
Ie Tbird or a microsoft one.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lawrence Stoler" <lstoler99@optonline.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 7:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] How to Open an Attachment with NVDA:


Hello,


I have been an NVDA user for a long time. I think it's great.


I am out of work. Recently my resume was updated but I can't open the
file to read it.


Is there a way using specific commands after clicking on the attachment
to open it and read it? In other words, if I use the arrow keys or tab
through the document, how do I get to access the attachment?


Is there any information about this on www.accessibilitycentral.net?


Thank you for a great screen reader, website and support group.


Sincerely,


Lawrence Stoler


Re: OCR Add-On & Incompatibility with Win10 & NVDA 2017.3 and later

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What you can do if you really need this add on, if say you are a windows 7 user like myself, is add it to an older version of nvda running portably. then when you do find a problem you need it for, simply launch the old portable version.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR Add-On & Incompatibility with Win10 & NVDA 2017.3 and later


I wonder if this add on is even necessary anymore since Win 10 has this
ability built in and later versions of nvda are fixed to take advantage
of this.

Roger












On 6/15/2018 11:02 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I had added this to NVDA a long while back to play with it, but had
forgotten entirely that I'd done so. Today, when I went to play
around with another add on and was reviewing my existing ones I
noticed that the OCR add-on page states, "Important: if you are using
NVDA 2017.3 or later on Windows 10, please disable this add-on." Its
continued presence may have been messing with Virtual Review, as I
could get nothing from Virtual Review until I removed OCR.

The above being said, I can't imagine I'm the only person who might
have installed an add-on such as this and lost that fact to the mists
of memory. I am just wondering if the add-on itself, or the NVDA
Add-On manager, has some way of being context sensitive and checking
what OS environment it's operating under and giving a message if an
add-on should be disabled or removed in that operating environment.

It is pure chance that I happened to catch this. It seems to me that
there really should be a way that, at the very least, the add-on
itself would be sensitive to its OS environment and give a warning if
it's being run under an OS version with which its operation is
incompatible.

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Re: OCR Add-On & Incompatibility with Win10 & NVDA 2017.3 and later

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I suspect there are so many possible variations and combinations that its probably not practical.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 5:02 PM
Subject: [nvda] OCR Add-On & Incompatibility with Win10 & NVDA 2017.3 and later


I had added this to NVDA a long while back to play with it, but had forgotten entirely that I'd done so. Today, when I went to play around with another add on and was reviewing my existing ones I noticed that the OCR add-on page states, " Important: if you are using NVDA 2017.3 or later on Windows 10, please disable this add-on. " Its continued presence may have been messing with Virtual Review, as I could get nothing from Virtual Review until I removed OCR.

The above being said, I can't imagine I'm the only person who might have installed an add-on such as this and lost that fact to the mists of memory. I am just wondering if the add-on itself, or the NVDA Add-On manager, has some way of being context sensitive and checking what OS environment it's operating under and giving a message if an add-on should be disabled or removed in that operating environment.

It is pure chance that I happened to catch this. It seems to me that there really should be a way that, at the very least, the add-on itself would be sensitive to its OS environment and give a warning if it's being run under an OS version with which its operation is incompatible.

--

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Re: opening big pdf files adobe reader

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You should make sure it only opens a few pages at a time.adobe reader is notorious for this problem I am told. That is why the sighted tend to use the third party viewers which do not work for us.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 4:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] opening big pdf files adobe reader


Hi,
Is this a bug in NVDA? When I open a pdf, like a really big 2mb pdf file. Nvda says, pdf name, avg page view. Then it sits there forever while it tries to open the pdf. Do I have adobe reader or NVDA set wrong that it takes forever to open pdf files?

Josh


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Re: selling an item on eBay

 

what other sites are people using?

On 6/15/2018 1:24 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Ebay has been going down the pan for a couple of years now, not just from the blind user perspective. Nobody i talk to has a good word to say for it these days.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "goshawk on horseback" <goshawk_on_horseback@fastmail.co.uk>
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] selling an item on eBay


if you have one available, you could try the ebay app on either iPhone or android. I have been telling ebay for some time about there lack of accessibility on there selling page, but they are simply not interested in doing anything about it.
my best bit of advice however, would be don't even bother with ebay, use a different platform, such as shpock or gumtree, or in-fact any other trading platform that doesn't charge you 10% and then another 4% for using paypal, and all that to be part of a system that lets buyers take the waste liquid as much as they like, and gives sellers no rights at all, which is exactly what the ebay system does!

Simon


 ----- Original Message -----  From: Giles Turnbull
 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 3:44 PM
 Subject: [nvda] selling an item on eBay


 Hi all,

 I regularly buy items from eBay and, in my sighted days, occasionally sold things too. The other day I noticed a pair of Orcam MyEye talking OCR glasses that sold and, since I have a pair that I would like to sell, used the "Have one to sell? Sell it yourself" link.

 I am not finding the page for entering the details for my item very easy to navigate! I can add the photos and I can enter the description of the item, but navigating, with both tab key or num pad object navigation, repeatedly takes me back to the item description pane.

 Does anybody have any suggestions to make listing an item easier with NVDA?

 I'm using Firefox 60, NVDA 2018.2  and Win10

 Thanks for any tips,

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Re: selling an item on eBay

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] selling an item on eBay


if you have one available, you could try the ebay app on either iPhone or android. I have been telling ebay for some time about there lack of accessibility on there selling page, but they are simply not interested in doing anything about it.
my best bit of advice however, would be don't even bother with ebay, use a different platform, such as shpock or gumtree, or in-fact any other trading platform that doesn't charge you 10% and then another 4% for using paypal, and all that to be part of a system that lets buyers take the waste liquid as much as they like, and gives sellers no rights at all, which is exactly what the ebay system does!

Simon


----- Original Message -----
From: Giles Turnbull
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 3:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] selling an item on eBay


Hi all,

I regularly buy items from eBay and, in my sighted days, occasionally sold things too. The other day I noticed a pair of Orcam MyEye talking OCR glasses that sold and, since I have a pair that I would like to sell, used the "Have one to sell? Sell it yourself" link.

I am not finding the page for entering the details for my item very easy to navigate! I can add the photos and I can enter the description of the item, but navigating, with both tab key or num pad object navigation, repeatedly takes me back to the item description pane.

Does anybody have any suggestions to make listing an item easier with NVDA?

I'm using Firefox 60, NVDA 2018.2 and Win10

Thanks for any tips,

Giles


Re: an issue about the NVDA 2018.2 and instent translate addon

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It probably does not understand the new settings property sheets then. It will need to be altered by the author, I'd imagine.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mert Anlar" <sonay-mert@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 2:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] an issue about the NVDA 2018.2 and instent translate addon


Hi fokes
since I installed the NVDA 2018.2 update, I cannot use the Instent
translate addon. setting up it's shortcuts, and also the languages, for
example, from En to TR, but it automatically sets from auto to TR
and, until I restart the NVDA, it doesn't allows me to open any NVDA
dialog box. i'm getting the following error.
An NVDA settings dialog is already open. Please close it first.
note that using the latest instent translate dev 4.1
here is the log
ERROR - unhandled exception (15:41:23.148):
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
"C:\Users\Mert\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\instantTranslate\globalPlugins\instantTranslate\interface.py",
line 106, in onOk
File "wx\_core.pyo", line 16711, in __getattr__
PyDeadObjectError: The C++ part of the Choice object has been deleted,
attribute access no longer allowed.