Re: Dropbox innaccessibility again
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I don't think so, is there no audio version?
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The problem is everyone these days is security paranoid. I did not know about the capchar, but I have just sent them an email about the inaccessible dialogues and messages. I also have a big list of some of the problems on the dev list but no dev has commented. I shall turn it into a ticket if i get time this weekend. However if its not possible to tweak nvda to get these things to read, not withstanding the cap char then i feel that somebody in NVDA a programmer really needs to have a word with them as they talk the same language. A lot of it is written in python QT and C. It should be perfectly possible to fix the dialogues as they made them work before. As for the Capchar, Google is gradually removing those in favour of a question based system like. If the sky is cloudy is it blue. To which the answer is no of course. I particularly like the one that says in the edit field, if you are not a robot leave this field blank. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. This message sent from a Windows XP machine!
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From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again Also, it's now very difficult to accept an invite from another person to share a folder. You used to just get an email and it says who is asking you to share and there are 2 buttons--one says accept and the other says decline. That was so easy! Now you are taken to a web page of some kind and it asks you to solve a captcha and this can no longer be done as Webvisum is finished for Firefox, and I know of nothing like it that works with any other browser. Seems like dropbox wants us to just go away.
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Re: Dropbox innaccessibility again
Ralf Kefferpuetz
I tried that under Win10 and Dropbox 51.4 with NVDA 2018.2.
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I can share a folder, I right click it in the dropbox folder and select share. In the window coming up I select write or read only in the dropdown then I enter an email address and tab to the comment edit field, enter some comments and tab to the Enter and share button. That's it for me, the folder is shared and a message is send to the email I entered. Regards, Ralf
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Samstag, 16. Juni 2018 13:34 To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again I wanted to share a folder today, but it seems on the current version this dialogue no longer works with nvda either. it just is a blank page saying its the shaere with another user item, but just like the preferences and the delete from all machines and devices one its totally empty of any controls that read at all. Anyone care to comment? If its also happening in windows 10 maybe we can write en masse to Dropbox to get them to correct this. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: facebook ??
Danni
Thanks was using i/e because firefox wasn't letting
me so I'll try that way thanks!
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Re: Dropbox innaccessibility again
Roger Stewart
Also, it's now very difficult to accept an invite from another person to share a folder. You used to just get an email and it says who is asking you to share and there are 2 buttons--one says accept and the other says decline. That was so easy! Now you are taken to a web page of some kind and it asks you to solve a captcha and this can no longer be done as Webvisum is finished for Firefox, and I know of nothing like it that works with any other browser. Seems like dropbox wants us to just go away.
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Roger
On 6/16/2018 6:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I wanted to share a folder today, but it seems on the current version this dialogue no longer works with nvda either. it just is a blank page saying its the shaere with another user item, but just like the preferences and the delete from all machines and devices one its totally empty of any controls that read at all.
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clicking on items with windows10 nvda ocr?
Hello
in jaws you can do the ocr and be able to click on items eg dvd minues for example grant it that is a major long way to use that sort ort of thing but was wondering if this is possible in nvda? Hank -- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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Re: virtual buffer not refreshing properly nvda 2018.2
Casey <cwollner@...>
Hi can you send me the version of waterfox that you are using.
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Will it work under windows seven if so can you please let me know where to get the exe file for it so that I can install it and try it out also. Thank you and have A nice day.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 2:24 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] virtual buffer not refreshing properly nvda 2018.2 Yes Firefox of all sorts always does this on my windows 7 machines, so I'm surprised you only just got it. if you are running 64 bit windows I use waterfox now as this seems not to suffer from this. At some point in the past, Firefox did something that momentarily drove up processor core usage when you go to a new page or launch it in the first instance. this seems to randomly create a situation for nvda where it sees no change straight away. often you will find that merely opening a menu and closing it then presents you with the new content. in64bit Waterfox this seems never to happen. It is supposedly the same code as Firefox before Quantum so why its so much better could be because its only available in a 64 bit version and hence the code is better optimised for multi processors. That is just a guess. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io" <orhan.deniz63=googlemail.com@groups.io> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 2:48 AM Subject: [nvda] virtual buffer not refreshing properly nvda 2018.2 Anyone else have this issue with firefox 52ESR and NVDA 2018.2? I always
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Re: NVDA was working fine until this morning when I tried to update
Daniel Hawkins
My computer at work have this problem. For the past year, everytime there is a update, NVDA crashes. Then either I use Narrator to reinstall NVDA or I use JAWS to reinstall. But before I do that, i uninstall NVDA under Apps and features in Windows 10.
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Someone have mentioned that when you uninstall NVDA and uninstall it’s files, how would you go about doing that? When i reinstall NVDA, all my addons and settings are still there. So, i know it is not a complete wipe. If there is any directions to completely remove NVDA, I would love to know how to do it. Thanks!
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Re: ms edge question
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Well, you need to use the configuration profile system to do this sort of thing.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gary Metzler" <gmtravel@comcast.net> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 10:14 AM Subject: [nvda] ms edge question Hi All,
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Dropbox innaccessibility again
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I wanted to share a folder today, but it seems on the current version this dialogue no longer works with nvda either. it just is a blank page saying its the shaere with another user item, but just like the preferences and the delete from all machines and devices one its totally empty of any controls that read at all.
Anyone care to comment? If its also happening in windows 10 maybe we can write en masse to Dropbox to get them to correct this. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: Administrative privileges.
Chris Mullins
Hi Nevzat
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If the desktop icon was correctly created, the "Start in" field will be filled in already. You just need to tab to the next field which is the shortcut key, then just press the letter you want to use (ctrl+alt will be added by Windows), tab to OK and press enter. Cheers Chris
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand Sent: 15 June 2018 21:32 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Administrative privileges. Hi If it is just asigning the shortcut after you have gone into the properties tab down to shortcut and asign one. I think you can only use alt + ctrl + a letter like J for jaws or another letter. Make sure you save the settings. Gene nz On 6/16/2018 3:03 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote: Hi all,
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Re: Troubles with WhatsApp Web Client and NVDA
Gene
You can't stop Drop Box from updating
itself.
Gene
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Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Troubles with WhatsApp Web Client and
NVDA updates. I'm thinking oof doing this with dropbox at the moment. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...> To: "nvda list list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Troubles with WhatsApp Web Client and NVDA No it will not. The chrome thing is what we use on the mac. I think I tried the desk top client on the mac as well and it was terrible in terms of accessibility > On Jun 15, 2018, at 8:46 PM, marcio via Groups.Io > <marcinhorj21@...> wrote: > > But I use the Desktop Client, will it still work? > Em 16/06/2018 00:29, Sarah k Alawami escreveu: >> Use f123 it will help you a lot. Download it through the google chrome >> store via the extensions section >> >>> On Jun 15, 2018, at 7:27 PM, marcio via Groups.Io >>> <marcinhorj21@...> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> Anyone using WhatsApp Web Desktop Client? >>> I'm wondering 'cause about 2 days ago, I had an update and it became >>> just horrible for using. >>> NVDA says "clickable" all time, whatever I try to do. Of course I can >>> still use it but this way it gets too more slow. >>> So, some of you with this problem? Any sugestion about it? >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> Marcio >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >
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ms edge question
Gary Metzler
Hi All,
I am using the latest windows 10 and nvda. I use the zera one core voice as my default voice. My edge question is when I use read aloud on a web page can I use zera as my default voice? I have that voice set in narrator. When I use it it uses one of the male voices. Thanks for any help.
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Re: Troubles with WhatsApp Web Client and NVDA
I just can't do it!
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In the right moment I'm going to open WhatsApp after the downgrade it gives me a message saying I must have to update it for keep using. Em 16/06/2018 04:27, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:
If this is just a new version then go back to the old one and suspend updates. I'm thinking oof doing this with dropbox at the moment.
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Re: opening big pdf files adobe reader
Mallard
Foxit used to work well enough, but I haven't tried it lately.
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Il 15/06/2018 22:26, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
You should make sure it only opens a few pages at a time.adobe reader is notorious for this problem I am told. That is why the sighted tend to use the third party viewers which do not work for us.
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Re: Troubles with WhatsApp Web Client and NVDA
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
If this is just a new version then go back to the old one and suspend updates. I'm thinking oof doing this with dropbox at the moment.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com> To: "nvda list list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Troubles with WhatsApp Web Client and NVDA No it will not. The chrome thing is what we use on the mac. I think I tried the desk top client on the mac as well and it was terrible in terms of accessibility On Jun 15, 2018, at 8:46 PM, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: virtual buffer not refreshing properly nvda 2018.2
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
It will return though. its something to do with the way Firefox is built I think. You will need to change after August when 52 will no longer get updates, and Water still allows old add ons at the moment and imports them all and the other firefox data fine.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io" <orhan.deniz63=googlemail.com@groups.io> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:01 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] virtual buffer not refreshing properly nvda 2018.2 Seems to have been remedied after firefox add on updates and a restart.
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Re: virtual buffer not refreshing properly nvda 2018.2
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Yes Firefox of all sorts always does this on my windows 7 machines, so I'm surprised you only just got it. if you are running 64 bit windows I use waterfox now as this seems not to suffer from this. At some point in the past, Firefox did something that momentarily drove up processor core usage when you go to a new page or launch it in the first instance. this seems to randomly create a situation for nvda where it sees no change straight away. often you will find that merely opening a menu and closing it then presents you with the new content. in64bit Waterfox this seems never to happen.
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It is supposedly the same code as Firefox before Quantum so why its so much better could be because its only available in a 64 bit version and hence the code is better optimised for multi processors. That is just a guess. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io" <orhan.deniz63=googlemail.com@groups.io> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 2:48 AM Subject: [nvda] virtual buffer not refreshing properly nvda 2018.2 Anyone else have this issue with firefox 52ESR and NVDA 2018.2? I always have to manually refresh using nvda+f5. so it definitely isn't a browser issue.
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Re: For chrome users.
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
That is a little odd. It may be a tooltip balloon or what we used to call toast, and you can turn off how these work in on of the nvda pref settings. I've noticed Dropbox has started to do this sort of thing as well. I could be doing a say all in a large text file and all of a sudden it will intersperse. Fred bloggs has updated file wlly.com on your dropbox.
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I really do not want to hear this sort of thing if I'm not even in the folder unless I want to, but since the prefs in dropbox and that pesky new alert screen seem not to work with nvda, it is rather irritating that these messages do where a you can see the folder or not! I suspect they are coming from a tray icon. On the other hand it might just be an undocumented feature, as software writers like to term such things. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Matt Turner" <meturner2214@gmail.com> To: "NVDA" <nvda@groups.io> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] For chrome users. Yep, I can.
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Re: facebook ??
Hi, I'm back.
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Well, first of all I need to know some things, such as which browser are you using when you tried to save the pic. But assuming you're using Firefox, that's what I use... Before downloading the pic you must choose to see it in a full size. You'll be able to find it tabing in the page that opens with the comments and reactions about the� post. So, after you're in full size pic screen, you should be able to save it as a pic on itself. Em 16/06/2018 01:37, Danni escreveu:
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Re: facebook ??
I'll check it and as soon as
possible I come back with an answer to you.
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Em 16/06/2018 01:37, Danni escreveu:
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