On Jun 16, 2018, at 12:26 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:

To Brian first of all do you really have to put out instructions the average user can’t follow sir? Not everybody is a techie freak like you sir. To Gary. To change the voices in Red Aloud in Edge hit alt X then press enter on Read Aloud. Next tab to the button that says change voices. Their how simple is that?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Nevzat
If that's the case, it should already have the shortcut key set-up. Does
jaws start when you press control+alt+j?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nevzat
Adil
Sent: 16 June 2018 16:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Administrative privileges.

Chris, the icon was created automatically when I downloaded it.
Nevzat

On 6/16/18, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nevzat
If the desktop icon was correctly created, the "Start in" field will be
filled in already. You just need to tab to the next field which is the
shortcut key, then just press the letter you want to use (ctrl+alt will
be
added by Windows), tab to OK and press enter.

Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New
Zealand
Sent: 15 June 2018 21:32
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Administrative privileges.

Hi


If it is just asigning the shortcut after you have gone into the
properties tab down to shortcut and asign one.


I think you can only use alt + ctrl + a letter like J for jaws or
another letter.


Make sure you save the settings.


Gene nz




On 6/16/2018 3:03 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote:

Hi all,

I solved the problem by going to Control Panel and User accounts. But
my problem with assigning a shortcut key to an icon on the desktop
still persists. I press alt+enter to go to properties for the shortcut
I have a problem what to write in the "start in" edit field. The
desktop icon in question is JAWS.
I thank you all for your responses.
Nevzat

On 6/14/18, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nevzat
Only an administrator account can change a standard account to an
administrator account. That is why I asked if there are any other
accounts
on the computer. If there are no other accounts, let me know and I'll
give
you details of a different method of solving the problem.

You can check if there are any other accounts by pressing Windows+i to
open
Settings, then press enter on Accounts. Tab to the list of topics and
arrow
down to Family and other people and press enter. Tab to the list of
other
account names and types on the machine and see if there is a user
account
with administrator privilidges. If there is, get the person to log on
using
that account, then they could use this settings process to edit your
account
details and change it from standard to administrator.

Cheers
Chris






-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Nevzat
Adil
Sent: 14 June 2018 20:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Administrative privileges.

Chris, yes, I get an error message saying I need to have administrator
permission. My operating system is Windows 10. I believe I have
standard user account. I tried to change user account and typed my
name and I was told that user account already exists. If I type
administrator would it change to that?
Nevzat

On 6/14/18, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nevzat
I would have thought you should be able to assign shortcuts as these
are
personal to your account and don't affect other users, so should not
require
admin priviledges. If you are using a work computer it maybe that a
corporate group policy is in effect which denies the capability but
this
would be unlikely.

As Brian asked, is your user account standard or administrator? Could
you
give us more information, such as operating system being used, work or
home
computer, is yours the only account on the computer etc.

The process I would use to assign a shortcut key is:
Select desktop icon
Press alt+enter to open properties
Tab to the shortcut key control and press the shortcut letter alone,
the
CTRL+Alt part of the command is added automatically by Windows
Tab to OK and press enter.

If you get an error after pressing OK, please give full details

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Nevzat
Adil
Sent: 13 June 2018 19:58
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Administrative privileges.

Hi Group,

I am trying to assign shortcut keys to icons on the desktop, but it
won't go through as I am told I have no administrative privileges.
Using NVDA how do I get administrative privilege on my computer?
Your response will be greatly appreciated.
Nevzat

On Jun 16, 2018, at 7:57 AM, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:

I tried that under Win10 and Dropbox  51.4 with NVDA 2018.2.
I can share a folder, I right click it in the dropbox folder and select
share. In the window coming up I select write or read only in the dropdown
then I enter an email address and tab to the comment edit field, enter some
comments and tab to the Enter and share button. That's it for me, the folder
is shared and a message is send to the email I entered.

Regards,
  Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail
list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Samstag, 16. Juni 2018 13:34
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

I wanted to share a folder today, but it seems on the current version this
dialogue no longer works with nvda either. it just is a blank page saying
its the shaere with another user item, but just like the preferences and the
delete from all machines and devices one its totally empty of any controls
that read at all.

Anyone care to comment?
If its also happening in windows 10 maybe we can write en masse to Dropbox
to get them to correct this.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field. 

Actually, i've even spelled it correctly and most people don't even know
what that even is called. Lol! I didn't even know the term until maybe 2012.
and even my sighted relitaves don't get it. they are like, what is that and
I don't understand.

On Jun 16, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins
<computersassociated@gmail.com> wrote:

That is good to know, I would have spelled it wrong too. This is why I
need to use the spell by character more often. Thanks for the tip!
Daniel Hawkins
computersassociated@gmail.com <mailto:computersassociated@gmail.com>

On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com
<mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>> wrote:

The word is c a p t c h a, captcha. If you write to someone complaining
about inaccessible captures, you will loose credibility.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<mailto:bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 9:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

I don't think so, is there no audio version?
The problem is everyone these days is security paranoid. I did not know

about the capchar, but I have just sent them an email about the
inaccessible
dialogues and messages.
I also have a big list of some of the problems on the dev list but no
dev
has commented. I shall turn it into a ticket if i get time this weekend.

However if its not possible to tweak nvda to get these things to read,
not
withstanding the cap char then i feel that somebody in NVDA a programmer

really needs to have a word with them as they talk the same language. A
lot
of it is written in python QT and C. It should be perfectly possible to
fix
the dialogues as they made them work before.
As for the Capchar, Google is gradually removing those in favour of a
question based system like.
If the sky is cloudy is it blue.
To which the answer is no of course.
I particularly like the one that says in the edit field, if you are not a

robot leave this field blank.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>, putting
'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
This message sent from a Windows XP machine!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com <mailto:paganus2@gmail.com>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

Also, it's now very difficult to accept an invite from another person
to
share a folder. You used to just get an email and it says who is asking

you to share and there are 2 buttons--one says accept and the other
says
decline. That was so easy! Now you are taken to a web page of some kind

and it asks you to solve a captcha and this can no longer be done as
Webvisum is finished for Firefox, and I know of nothing like it that
works
with any other browser. Seems like dropbox wants us to just go away.

Roger










On 6/16/2018 6:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I wanted to share a folder today, but it seems on the current version

this dialogue no longer works with nvda either. it just is a blank
page
saying its the shaere with another user item, but just like the
preferences and the delete from all machines and devices one its
totally
empty of any controls that read at all.

Anyone care to comment?
If its also happening in windows 10 maybe we can write en masse to
Dropbox to get them to correct this.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>, putting
'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

Hi Nevzat
If the desktop icon was correctly created, the "Start in" field will be
filled in already. You just need to tab to the next field which is the
shortcut key, then just press the letter you want to use (ctrl+alt will be
added by Windows), tab to OK and press enter.

Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New
Zealand
Sent: 15 June 2018 21:32
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Administrative privileges.

Hi


If it is just asigning the shortcut after you have gone into the
properties tab down to shortcut and asign one.


I think you can only use alt + ctrl + a letter like J for jaws or
another letter.


Make sure you save the settings.


Gene nz




On 6/16/2018 3:03 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote:

Hi all,

I solved the problem by going to Control Panel and User accounts. But
my problem with assigning a shortcut key to an icon on the desktop
still persists. I press alt+enter to go to properties for the shortcut
I have a problem what to write in the "start in" edit field. The
desktop icon in question is JAWS.
I thank you all for your responses.
Nevzat

On 6/14/18, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nevzat
Only an administrator account can change a standard account to an
administrator account. That is why I asked if there are any other
accounts
on the computer. If there are no other accounts, let me know and I'll
give
you details of a different method of solving the problem.

You can check if there are any other accounts by pressing Windows+i to
open
Settings, then press enter on Accounts. Tab to the list of topics and
arrow
down to Family and other people and press enter. Tab to the list of
other
account names and types on the machine and see if there is a user
account
with administrator privilidges. If there is, get the person to log on
using
that account, then they could use this settings process to edit your
account
details and change it from standard to administrator.

Cheers
Chris






-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Nevzat
Adil
Sent: 14 June 2018 20:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Administrative privileges.

Chris, yes, I get an error message saying I need to have administrator
permission. My operating system is Windows 10. I believe I have
standard user account. I tried to change user account and typed my
name and I was told that user account already exists. If I type
administrator would it change to that?
Nevzat

On 6/14/18, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nevzat
I would have thought you should be able to assign shortcuts as these
are
personal to your account and don't affect other users, so should not
require
admin priviledges. If you are using a work computer it maybe that a
corporate group policy is in effect which denies the capability but
this
would be unlikely.

As Brian asked, is your user account standard or administrator? Could
you
give us more information, such as operating system being used, work or
home
computer, is yours the only account on the computer etc.

The process I would use to assign a shortcut key is:
Select desktop icon
Press alt+enter to open properties
Tab to the shortcut key control and press the shortcut letter alone,
the
CTRL+Alt part of the command is added automatically by Windows
Tab to OK and press enter.

If you get an error after pressing OK, please give full details

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Nevzat
Adil
Sent: 13 June 2018 19:58
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Administrative privileges.

Hi Group,

I am trying to assign shortcut keys to icons on the desktop, but it
won't go through as I am told I have no administrative privileges.
Using NVDA how do I get administrative privilege on my computer?
Your response will be greatly appreciated.
Nevzat

Hello Hank,


Yes, it is. I do that quite often.







Il 16/06/2018 16:31, The Wolf ha scritto:

Hello

in jaws you can do the ocr and be able to click on items eg dvd
minues for example grant it that is a major long way to use that sort
ort of thing but was wondering if this is possible in nvda?

Hank

On Jun 16, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins <computersassociated@...> wrote:

That is good to know, I would have spelled it wrong too. This is why I need to use the spell by character more often. Thanks for the tip!

Daniel Hawkins

computersassociated@...

On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

The word is c a p t c h a, captcha.  If you write to someone complaining about inaccessible captures, you will loose credibility. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 9:57 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

I don't think so, is there no audio version?
 The problem is everyone these days is security paranoid. I did not know
about the capchar, but I have just sent them an email about the inaccessible
dialogues and messages.
 I also have a big list of some of the problems on the dev list but no dev
has commented. I shall turn it into a ticket if i get time this weekend.
However if its not possible to tweak nvda to get these things to read, not
withstanding the cap char then i feel that somebody in NVDA a programmer
really needs to have a word with them as they talk the same language. A lot
of it is written in python QT and C. It should be perfectly possible to fix
the dialogues as they made them work before.
 As for the Capchar, Google is gradually removing those in favour of a
question based system like.
 If the sky is cloudy is it blue.
 To which the answer is no of course.
I particularly like the one that says in the edit field, if you are not a
robot leave this field blank.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
This message sent from a Windows XP machine!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again


> Also, it's now very difficult to accept an invite from another person to
> share a folder. You used to just get an email and it says who is asking
> you to share and there are 2 buttons--one says accept and the other says
> decline. That was so easy! Now you are taken to a web page of some kind
> and it asks you to solve a captcha and this can no longer be done as
> Webvisum is finished for Firefox, and I know of nothing like it that works
> with any other browser. Seems like dropbox wants us to just go away.
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/16/2018 6:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>> I wanted to share a folder today, but it seems on the current version
>> this dialogue no longer works with nvda either. it just is a blank page
>> saying its the shaere with another user item, but just like the
>> preferences and the delete from all machines and devices one its totally
>> empty of any controls that read at all.
>>
>> Anyone care to comment?
>> If its also happening in windows 10 maybe we can write en masse to
>> Dropbox to get them to correct this.
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

Hello Hank,


Yes, it is. I do that quite often.







Il 16/06/2018 16:31, The Wolf ha scritto:

Hello

in jaws you can do the ocr and be able to click on items eg dvd minues for example grant it that is a major long way to use that sort ort of thing but was wondering if this is possible in nvda?

Hank

Hello

in jaws you can do the ocr and be able to click on items eg dvd minues for example grant it that is a major long way to use that sort ort of thing but was wondering if this is possible in nvda?

Hank

On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

The word is c a p t c h a, captcha.  If you write to someone complaining about inaccessible captures, you will loose credibility. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 9:57 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

I don't think so, is there no audio version?
 The problem is everyone these days is security paranoid. I did not know
about the capchar, but I have just sent them an email about the inaccessible
dialogues and messages.
 I also have a big list of some of the problems on the dev list but no dev
has commented. I shall turn it into a ticket if i get time this weekend.
However if its not possible to tweak nvda to get these things to read, not
withstanding the cap char then i feel that somebody in NVDA a programmer
really needs to have a word with them as they talk the same language. A lot
of it is written in python QT and C. It should be perfectly possible to fix
the dialogues as they made them work before.
 As for the Capchar, Google is gradually removing those in favour of a
question based system like.
 If the sky is cloudy is it blue.
 To which the answer is no of course.
I particularly like the one that says in the edit field, if you are not a
robot leave this field blank.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
This message sent from a Windows XP machine!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again


> Also, it's now very difficult to accept an invite from another person to
> share a folder. You used to just get an email and it says who is asking
> you to share and there are 2 buttons--one says accept and the other says
> decline. That was so easy! Now you are taken to a web page of some kind
> and it asks you to solve a captcha and this can no longer be done as
> Webvisum is finished for Firefox, and I know of nothing like it that works
> with any other browser. Seems like dropbox wants us to just go away.
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/16/2018 6:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>> I wanted to share a folder today, but it seems on the current version
>> this dialogue no longer works with nvda either. it just is a blank page
>> saying its the shaere with another user item, but just like the
>> preferences and the delete from all machines and devices one its totally
>> empty of any controls that read at all.
>>
>> Anyone care to comment?
>> If its also happening in windows 10 maybe we can write en masse to
>> Dropbox to get them to correct this.
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

Hi All,





I am using the latest windows 10 and nvda. I use the zera one core voice
as
my default voice. My edge question is when I use read aloud on a web page
can I use zera as my default voice? I have that voice set in narrator.
When I use it it uses one of the male voices. Thanks for any help.

Hi Nevzat
If the desktop icon was correctly created, the "Start in" field will be
filled in already. You just need to tab to the next field which is the
shortcut key, then just press the letter you want to use (ctrl+alt will be
added by Windows), tab to OK and press enter.

Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New
Zealand
Sent: 15 June 2018 21:32
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Administrative privileges.

Hi


If it is just asigning the shortcut after you have gone into the
properties tab down to shortcut and asign one.


I think you can only use alt + ctrl + a letter like J for jaws or
another letter.


Make sure you save the settings.


Gene nz




On 6/16/2018 3:03 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote:

Hi all,

I solved the problem by going to Control Panel and User accounts. But
my problem with assigning a shortcut key to an icon on the desktop
still persists. I press alt+enter to go to properties for the shortcut
I have a problem what to write in the "start in" edit field. The
desktop icon in question is JAWS.
I thank you all for your responses.
Nevzat

On 6/14/18, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nevzat
Only an administrator account can change a standard account to an
administrator account. That is why I asked if there are any other
accounts
on the computer. If there are no other accounts, let me know and I'll
give
you details of a different method of solving the problem.

You can check if there are any other accounts by pressing Windows+i to
open
Settings, then press enter on Accounts. Tab to the list of topics and
arrow
down to Family and other people and press enter. Tab to the list of
other
account names and types on the machine and see if there is a user
account
with administrator privilidges. If there is, get the person to log on
using
that account, then they could use this settings process to edit your
account
details and change it from standard to administrator.

Cheers
Chris






-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Nevzat
Adil
Sent: 14 June 2018 20:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Administrative privileges.

Chris, yes, I get an error message saying I need to have administrator
permission. My operating system is Windows 10. I believe I have
standard user account. I tried to change user account and typed my
name and I was told that user account already exists. If I type
administrator would it change to that?
Nevzat

On 6/14/18, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nevzat
I would have thought you should be able to assign shortcuts as these
are
personal to your account and don't affect other users, so should not
require
admin priviledges. If you are using a work computer it maybe that a
corporate group policy is in effect which denies the capability but
this
would be unlikely.

As Brian asked, is your user account standard or administrator? Could
you
give us more information, such as operating system being used, work or
home
computer, is yours the only account on the computer etc.

The process I would use to assign a shortcut key is:
Select desktop icon
Press alt+enter to open properties
Tab to the shortcut key control and press the shortcut letter alone,
the
CTRL+Alt part of the command is added automatically by Windows
Tab to OK and press enter.

If you get an error after pressing OK, please give full details

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Nevzat
Adil
Sent: 13 June 2018 19:58
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Administrative privileges.

Hi Group,

I am trying to assign shortcut keys to icons on the desktop, but it
won't go through as I am told I have no administrative privileges.
Using NVDA how do I get administrative privilege on my computer?
Your response will be greatly appreciated.
Nevzat