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Re: Latest nexts, problem when changing synthesizer

 

Hi,
I was able to confirm this. A possible culprit is recent changes to settings dialog.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 9:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest nexts, problem when changing synthesizer

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Stupid dictation, just correcting a speako.]

what happens if you use the -r flag when issuing the nvda command from the Run dialog? If it does restart can you then verify the synth has been changed? Also, paste your log privately to one of the nvda Developers.


On June 17, 2018 00:35:34 "Michel Such" <michel.such@...> wrote:

Hi,


1. Open the speech settings from the Settings dialog.

2.Try to change synthesizer (let's say from Espeak to Onecore, to take
examples which very different settings list).

3. Press the OK button. An error sound is heard and the speech dialog
is not refresh to reflect settings of the new selected synth, though
the active synth is actually changed.


I run next version 15296,e74c62b3



--


Michel Such




Re: PDF file missing spaces

ely.r@...
 

Quentin,

If you could identify the character that does not get recognized as a space, copy it and do a global search and replace, might that work?

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 5:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] PDF file missing spaces

 

Hi everyone,

 

I know I've come across this before but I just can't recall the solution.  I've got a PDF file which when I read it, parts of it read with no spaces between words (ditto copying the text out or saving to a text file).

 

It is something to do with how Adobe Reader interprets the spaces in files created with certain other products, but what I can't remember, is how do I fix it, please?

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Re: messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

It's an imap account.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason
White via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

If it's an IMAP or Microsoft Exchange account, you can probably just delete
your *.ost files. Mine are found in the user profile folder, under
AppData\local\Microsoft\Outlook. You need to close Outlook before deleting
the files.

When you start Outlook again, it will retrieve the messages from the server
and recreate those files.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

I'll call the Microsoft disability line tomorrow and see what they say. It
very well could be a corruption in the indexing.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 12:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

Take the machine back to when you saw them last? However I'm not optimistic.

I seem to remember this sort of thing happening in older Outlooks back when
I tried to use it.
Its normally some corruption in the indexing in Outlook. Maybe there is an
answer on the Microsoft Office forum?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 6:55 AM
Subject: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook


Hi, everyone,



I don't know what happened to some of my messages that I had from
other lists that I'm on. They just suddenly disappeared. I know I
didn't delete them. I tried looking in the junk folder but they're not
there. Is there something else I can do?



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie









Re: messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

Jason White
 

If it's an IMAP or Microsoft Exchange account, you can probably just delete
your *.ost files. Mine are found in the user profile folder, under
AppData\local\Microsoft\Outlook. You need to close Outlook before deleting
the files.

When you start Outlook again, it will retrieve the messages from the server
and recreate those files.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

I'll call the Microsoft disability line tomorrow and see what they say. It
very well could be a corruption in the indexing.



-----Original Message-----
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Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 12:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

Take the machine back to when you saw them last? However I'm not optimistic.

I seem to remember this sort of thing happening in older Outlooks back when
I tried to use it.
Its normally some corruption in the indexing in Outlook. Maybe there is an
answer on the Microsoft Office forum?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 6:55 AM
Subject: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook


Hi, everyone,



I don't know what happened to some of my messages that I had from
other lists that I'm on. They just suddenly disappeared. I know I
didn't delete them. I tried looking in the junk folder but they're not
there. Is there something else I can do?



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie









Re: Latest nexts, problem when changing synthesizer

Sarah k Alawami
 
Edited

what happens if you use the -r flag when issuing the nvda command from the Run dialog? If it does restart can you then verify the synth has been changed? Also, paste your log privately to one of the nvda Developers.

On June 17, 2018 00:35:34 "Michel Such" <michel.such@...> wrote:

Hi,


1. Open the speech settings from the Settings dialog.

2.Try to change synthesizer (let's say from Espeak to Onecore, to take
examples which very different settings list).

3. Press the OK button. An error sound is heard and the speech dialog is
not refresh to reflect settings of the new selected synth, though the
active synth is actually changed.


I run next version 15296,e74c62b3



--


Michel Such



Re: messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'll call the Microsoft disability line tomorrow and see what they say. It
very well could be a corruption in the indexing.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 12:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

Take the machine back to when you saw them last? However I'm not optimistic.

I seem to remember this sort of thing happening in older Outlooks back when
I tried to use it.
Its normally some corruption in the indexing in Outlook. Maybe there is an
answer on the Microsoft Office forum?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 6:55 AM
Subject: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook


Hi, everyone,



I don't know what happened to some of my messages that I had from other
lists that I'm on. They just suddenly disappeared. I know I didn't delete
them. I tried looking in the junk folder but they're not there. Is there
something else I can do?



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie









Re: Activating the BrailleEnhancer

Jason White
 

In the BrailleExtender preferences, you can configure the list of output
tables between which you want to switch. Then, use the command documented in
the BrailleExtender help for your specific display to switch between the
configured output tables.

The configuration dialog shows the tables that are in the switch, and those
which are not, allowing you to add and remove tables from the switch.

If this overview doesn't solve your problem, let me know what's confusing
and I'll enter into more detail.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Activating the BrailleEnhancer

Hello,

I have installed the BrailleEnhancer add-on and read the documentation, but
I don't understand how to activte the various features. In particular, i
would like to switch between two output tables.

Thanks,
John

--
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Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM
services
that are available at no cost


Re: NVDA was working fine until this morning when I tried to update

Daniel Hawkins
 

Gene, thank you for letting me know about the run command. I pretty much know the rest. I have done multiple uninstall and installs, but I noticed that NVDA never fully uninstall. I will try the Windows Run command, and see if that will fix my problem. Thanks Gene!
Daniel Hawkins



On Jun 16, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


For a complete uninstall of nvda from the computer in cases i might use narrator .


it will depend on your operating system what the add/remove section is called for programs.


You will need to locate nvda in that list and uninstall it .


Then close that screen with the alt key + f4 key.


Next use the windows key + letter R to bring up the run dialogue and type in the following %appdata% then press the enter key.


it will give you a list of folders i think it is called in the roaming folder.


Locate the nvda folder and delete it


Close that screen with the alt key + f4 key.


But before you do that make sure you have a good working copy of nvda that you can use. Just to be on the safe side i usually grab the latest copy from nvaccess.


After the steps have been done you can then reinstall nvda to your computer.


I do have directions some where on my website that says what to do.


Gene nz



On 6/17/2018 12:55 AM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
My computer at work have this problem. For the past year, everytime there is a update, NVDA crashes. Then either I use Narrator to reinstall NVDA or I use JAWS to reinstall. But before I do that, i uninstall NVDA under Apps and features in Windows 10.

Someone have mentioned that when you uninstall NVDA and uninstall it’s files, how would you go about doing that? When i reinstall NVDA, all my addons and settings are still there. So, i know it is not a complete wipe. If there is any directions to completely remove NVDA, I would love to know how to do it. Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins



On Jun 15, 2018, at 1:54 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:

Yes I finally managed to get this effect you described. It seems that it throws an error at the time when no nvda is actually able to run because of an error screen, so it seems like all is quiet. I did a button  on the computer quick tap to let it shut down gracefully. Then when it cam up with a dong noise as obviously nvda was not installed fully, I ran a portable copy from another folder, then I manually removed the exe files from the nvda folder in program files (x86) and reran the update file and  boom all is well.
As has been said before often if there is something on the machine which screws up an install, say a file that needs to be deleted but is not from an older copy, then all sorts of random things happen.
Its seldom the end of the world. Moral, when you are happy with a working version of nvda. Create a portable version in another folder on your hard drive, go there with explorer and create a shortcut to the  main exe file or use a batch file in that folder and make a shortcut to that. I published my batch file a day or so back as it makes sure any running copy of nvda shuts down before running it again from the portable version.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Hendrickson" <louvins@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA was working fine until this morning when I tried to update


I was able to get help getting my downloaded copy of NVDA installed.
Things seem to be working ok now.  Thanks to all for their
suggestions.

On 6/14/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi Joshua


Afteryou downloaded a copy of nvda then clicked on it to install it to
your pc was it after it said it was installing it went quiet? I can not
remember if nvda says wait or in the latest versions there is no sound
until it is installed then you will hear nvda start up again and it is
ready to use.


I wonder if a UAC screen came up? and was not in focus for nvda to read
out? In this case use the alt key + letter Y if it comes up.

If it is not in focus use the alt + tab key to bring it into focus.


Your anti virus could be blocking it but would if it was me reinstall
nvda again.


If you want to see what is happening and nvda is not speaking some times
also using narrator to see what is happening helps. but if nvda and
narrator are running togeher for 2 long it can drive you a little crazy
but once nvda is installed you can turn off narrator.


It just depends where the speech stops. Are you still getting sound from
the computer? or do you have 2 sound cards?


Gene nz





On 6/15/2018 2:28 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
Hi to all.  This morning when I tried to update my NVDA something went
wrong I think.  I heard the program shut off, then turn on again and
when I thought it was installing I lost all sound.  I downloaded the
newest 2018 version of NVDA from the website and tried to install it.
Well, I had other speech on and my speech just stopped.  I don't know
what I should do.  I'd rather not go back to jaws, but I don't know
why my NVDA isn't working correctly.  I'm afraid to try and reinstall
NVDA again.








-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson







Re: messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

Aravind R
 

no sir. our bank of baroda is using outlook365 officially and i am
using light verision page only. but, suddenly many mails from sent
items is getting dissappeared and our people are facing big problems.

On 6/17/18, Caleb Neyenhuis <calebneyenhuis@...> wrote:
Hi
I had this problem to i think this the same one i had try this
Click on the thing that says like yesterdays emails and press enter it
should expand and you can see more emails on that day


--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@..., aravind.andhrabank@....


Re: PDF file missing spaces

Ann Byrne
 

the best thing I have found is to do OCR on the file and let the OCR program insert the spaces where they belong.

At 04:19 AM 6/17/2018, you wrote:
Hi everyone,

I know I've come across this before but I just can't recall the solution. I've got a PDF file which when I read it, parts of it read with no spaces between words (ditto copying the text out or saving to a text file).

It is something to do with how Adobe Reader interprets the spaces in files created with certain other products, but what I can't remember, is how do I fix it, please?

Regards

Quentin.

--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: <http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/>http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

<http://www.nvaccess.org/>www.nvaccess.orgÂ
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Re: Dropbox innaccessibility again

 

I am on windows 10, and the latest version of DropBox reads fine for me when I share a folder and when I accept a folder invite. When I accepted a folder invite I did not have to accept any captures. :) And yes, I know how to spell captcha's but I just wanted to piss some people in this thread off. :) I'm not sure why the captcha's are appearing. I've been trying to find a decent accessibility contact all morning. My emails to other departments are opened, but not replied to. I generally don't write to general email addresses in cases like this. I have yet to get a decent reply from anybody over there so does anybody have any contacts?


Re: messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

Caleb Neyenhuis
 

Hi
I had this problem to i think this the same one i had try this
Click on the thing that says like yesterdays emails and press enter it should expand and you can see more emails on that day


Activating the BrailleEnhancer

John J. Boyer
 

Hello,

I have installed the BrailleEnhancer add-on and read the documentation, but I don't understand how to activte the
various features. In particular, i would like to switch between two output tables.

Thanks,
John

--
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Email: john.boyer@...
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services
that are available at no cost


Re: Read Allowed in Edge

Gene
 

I should add that I might not have commented on this topic, but I am a moderator and part of my job is to maintain civility on the list.  I, therefore, discussed the matter.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Read Allowed in Edge

When I first saw Lino's message, I thought the matter was a different interpretation of what is wanted.  Instead of making assumptions about someone's motivation and writing nasty messages, perhaps at first, the subject should be approached civilly and with the possibility in mind that the problem may not be what it seems.  I didn't look at the original message carefully but I thought the intention was to use one voice in NVDA for speak to end on the Internet when using NVDA and not use that voice elsewhere. 
 
Thus, the discussion of profiles and the instructions thought to be convoluted.  They were discussing how to do something different than in your message, Lino.
 
and even if the instructions were more complex than necessary, which I didn't check, there are ways to point it out without attacking, almost flaming someone.  If it were stated something like, your instructions are far more complex than necessary to address the problem.  You often write unnecessarily complex instructions.  and then present what you think is better, that makes the point without an almost personal attack.
 
Note that I am not saying this is the case.  I'm illustrating how to make a point without an attack.
 
Also, since Brian doesn't use Windows 10, this may have led to the different interpretation.  Speak to end may have been addressed when Read Alout was intended. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Read Allowed in Edge

I don't think it was really clear what exactly he wanted to do though.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 8:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Read Allowed in Edge


To Brian first of all do you really have to put out instructions the average
user can’t follow sir? Not everybody is a techie freak like you sir. To
Gary. To change the voices in Red Aloud in Edge hit alt X then press enter
on Read Aloud. Next tab to the button that says change voices. Their how
simple is that?

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10








Re: NVDA And Avast Free Anti Virus

Gene
 

Turning off self-defense allows NVDA to see the available information on screen.  It does nothing aside from that to improve accessibility.  Using JAWS with self-protection on or off, doesn't change what JAWS sees and, with self-protection on, the program is better protected from attack. 
 
If I needed access beyond the time a JAWS demo runs, since that is what I use now and then, if necessary or desirable, I would turn self-defense off and use NVDA for the that operation, such as a scan, then turn it on afterwards and use the JAWS demo with the program.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA And Avast Free Anti Virus

Hi,


Yes, the very registration of the product was a nightmare for me, too. I
did it, but, I do not know how. As for semi-accessibility, you're
supposed to turn the self-defence off, although Avast does not recommend
the end user to. Why am I saying semi-accessibility? Because Avast has
never been fully accessible as far as screen readers (Jaws and NVDA) are
concerned


On 17/06/2018 06:23, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> Is there any add on or perhaps some sort of technique for using the
> main interface or in particular, the registration panel in the Avast
> Free Anti Virus program?
>
> I used to be able to enter the registration information every year for
> the free upgrade, but something may have changed either in NVDA or
> Avast to make this impossible for me this year.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>





Re: PDF file missing spaces

Gene
 

I don't know if the problem can be corrected with Adobe itself.  You might try PDF2TXT, a small almost utility instead of being a program and see if that corrects it.  I've had lots of trouble using the current one but I think I still have the installation file for the older one, which I find works better on a lot of P
DF files.  Or, using OCR such as available in Openbook, Kurzweil, Fine Reader, and I would think other OCR programs might solve the problem.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 4:19 AM
Subject: [nvda] PDF file missing spaces

Hi everyone,

I know I've come across this before but I just can't recall the solution.  I've got a PDF file which when I read it, parts of it read with no spaces between words (ditto copying the text out or saving to a text file).

It is something to do with how Adobe Reader interprets the spaces in files created with certain other products, but what I can't remember, is how do I fix it, please?

Regards

Quentin.

--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Read Allowed in Edge

Gene
 

When I first saw Lino's message, I thought the matter was a different interpretation of what is wanted.  Instead of making assumptions about someone's motivation and writing nasty messages, perhaps at first, the subject should be approached civilly and with the possibility in mind that the problem may not be what it seems.  I didn't look at the original message carefully but I thought the intention was to use one voice in NVDA for speak to end on the Internet when using NVDA and not use that voice elsewhere. 
 
Thus, the discussion of profiles and the instructions thought to be convoluted.  They were discussing how to do something different than in your message, Lino.
 
and even if the instructions were more complex than necessary, which I didn't check, there are ways to point it out without attacking, almost flaming someone.  If it were stated something like, your instructions are far more complex than necessary to address the problem.  You often write unnecessarily complex instructions.  and then present what you think is better, that makes the point without an almost personal attack.
 
Note that I am not saying this is the case.  I'm illustrating how to make a point without an attack.
 
Also, since Brian doesn't use Windows 10, this may have led to the different interpretation.  Speak to end may have been addressed when Read Alout was intended. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Read Allowed in Edge

I don't think it was really clear what exactly he wanted to do though.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 8:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Read Allowed in Edge


To Brian first of all do you really have to put out instructions the average
user can’t follow sir? Not everybody is a techie freak like you sir. To
Gary. To change the voices in Red Aloud in Edge hit alt X then press enter
on Read Aloud. Next tab to the button that says change voices. Their how
simple is that?

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10








Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows checkbox unable to be checked

Thomas Stivers
 

 Hello all,

The three options pertaining to automatically starting NVDA appear on screen, they do not appear disabled, but they cannot be selected either in the welcome dialog or in the general preferences. This is happening on a remote computer, so I didn't do the installation myself. Is there a scenario where NVDA was installed as a portable copy or run directly from the installer file which can cause these options to be present but unusable? I did a brief search of reported issues, but I don't see anything that covers this although I could I swear I remember discussion about it some months or years ago.

For what its worth this is about installing NVDA 2018.1.1 on Windows 10.

Thank you for any assistance,

Thomas


Re: Dropbox innaccessibility again

Gene
 

It isn't a typo.  It is the result of the chronic and widespread practice of a lot of blind people not checking spelling of unfamiliar words and relying on speech for the spelling.  it doesn't matter what you explain or how.  If you write to a business or web site administrator or whomever in a business capacity, and misspell the name of the thing you are writing about, you lose considerable credibility and do not look competent. 
 
And how do you know that the thought doesn't arise in the recipient, "If the person is misspelling the name to this extent, maybe the person doesn't know how to use the captcha.  If you want credibility in the sighted business and other professional worlds, spell correctly and use correct names.  A typographical error is mistyping;  This is misspelling.  and this issue goes much further.  If you don't check names to be sure the spelling is correct, for example of the person you are writing to, you might use a w at the end of a name when you should use o u g h.  and in your specific case, someone might spell Brian with a y instead of with an I or visa versa.  And the list goes on. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

You are worrying about typos. We know what we mean. If I was writing to a
company I'd explain the actual issue without trying to use buzz words for
them.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Laz" <laz@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again


> Sure, but if one is going to write a company to complain about their
> use of quote captures unquote on their web site, they're either going
> to think you're nuts or won't know what you're talking about. It's a
> good idea to call something what it is or one won't get very far. It's
> like going to a deli and asking for a cam shaft sandwich when one
> should have said Corned Beef Hash instead. the two phrases are
> different things just as capture and captcha are two totally different
> things.
>
> Laz
>
> On 6/16/18, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
>> Actually, i've even spelled it correctly and most people don't even know
>> what that even is called. Lol! I didn't even know the term until maybe
>> 2012.
>> and even my sighted relitaves don't get it. they are like, what is that
>> and
>> I don't understand.
>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins
>>> <computersassociated@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> That is good to know, I would have spelled it wrong too. This is why I
>>> need to use the spell by character more often. Thanks for the tip!
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> computersassociated@... <mailto:computersassociated@...>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Gene <gsasner@...
>>>> <mailto:gsasner@...>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The word is c a p t c h a, captcha.  If you write to someone
>>>> complaining
>>>> about inaccessible captures, you will loose credibility.
>>>>
>>>> Gene
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>>>> <mailto:bglists@...>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 9:57 AM
>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so, is there no audio version?
>>>>  The problem is everyone these days is security paranoid. I did not
>>>> know
>>>>
>>>> about the capchar, but I have just sent them an email about the
>>>> inaccessible
>>>> dialogues and messages.
>>>>  I also have a big list of some of the problems on the dev list but no
>>>> dev
>>>> has commented. I shall turn it into a ticket if i get time this
>>>> weekend.
>>>>
>>>> However if its not possible to tweak nvda to get these things to read,
>>>> not
>>>> withstanding the cap char then i feel that somebody in NVDA a
>>>> programmer
>>>>
>>>> really needs to have a word with them as they talk the same language. A
>>>> lot
>>>> of it is written in python QT and C. It should be perfectly possible to
>>>> fix
>>>> the dialogues as they made them work before.
>>>>  As for the Capchar, Google is gradually removing those in favour of a
>>>> question based system like.
>>>>  If the sky is cloudy is it blue.
>>>>  To which the answer is no of course.
>>>> I particularly like the one that says in the edit field, if you are not
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>> robot leave this field blank.
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...>
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>>>> briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting
>>>> 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>> This message sent from a Windows XP machine!
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@... <mailto:paganus2@...>>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:46 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Also, it's now very difficult to accept an invite from another person
>>>> > to
>>>> > share a folder. You used to just get an email and it says who is
>>>> > asking
>>>> >
>>>> > you to share and there are 2 buttons--one says accept and the other
>>>> > says
>>>> > decline. That was so easy! Now you are taken to a web page of some
>>>> > kind
>>>> >
>>>> > and it asks you to solve a captcha and this can no longer be done as
>>>> > Webvisum is finished for Firefox, and I know of nothing like it that
>>>> > works
>>>> > with any other browser. Seems like dropbox wants us to just go away.
>>>> >
>>>> > Roger
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 6/16/2018 6:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>>> >> I wanted to share a folder today, but it seems on the current
>>>> >> version
>>>> >>
>>>> >> this dialogue no longer works with nvda either. it just is a blank
>>>> >> page
>>>> >> saying its the shaere with another user item, but just like the
>>>> >> preferences and the delete from all machines and devices one its
>>>> >> totally
>>>> >> empty of any controls that read at all.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Anyone care to comment?
>>>> >> If its also happening in windows 10 maybe we can write en masse to
>>>> >> Dropbox to get them to correct this.
>>>> >> Brian
>>>> >>
>>>> >> bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...>
>>>> >> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> >> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>>> >> briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting
>>>> >> 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> >> in the display name field.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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Re: Dropbox innaccessibility again

Gene
 

I wouldn't assume this is a general problem.  It may be related to the preferences problewm you have. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

Unfortunately in windows 7 the dialogues do not read at all.
 I've tried this on a machine with 7 home and 7 pro now with the same
result. There is nothing special about the machines, no weird software no
fiddles. It just does not work. and as all other software seems to work fine
I'm rather bemused.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralf Kefferpuetz" <ralf.kefferpuetz@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>; <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again


>I tried that under Win10 and Dropbox  51.4 with NVDA 2018.2.
> I can share a folder, I right click it in the dropbox folder and select
> share. In the window coming up I select write or read only in the dropdown
> then I enter an email address and tab to the comment edit field, enter
> some
> comments and tab to the Enter and share button. That's it for me, the
> folder
> is shared and a message is send to the email I entered.
>
> Regards,
>   Ralf
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail
> list account via Groups.Io
> Sent: Samstag, 16. Juni 2018 13:34
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again
>
> I wanted to share a folder today, but it seems on the current version this
> dialogue no longer works with nvda either. it just is a blank page saying
> its the shaere with another user item, but just like the preferences and
> the
> delete from all machines and devices one its totally empty of any controls
> that read at all.
>
> Anyone care to comment?
> If its also happening in windows 10 maybe we can write en masse to Dropbox
> to get them to correct this.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
>
>
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