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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials latest snapshot released

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Joseph,
Thanks for the addons.
Sorry, is this the stable release?



Joseph Lee 於 18/5/2016 8:51 寫道:

Hi all,

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on snapshot for May 17, 2016. The notable change is recognition of certain dialogs as proper dialogs, including one crucial dialog that’ll be included much later this summer.

The add-on page is at:

http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html

Cheers,

Joseph



Windows 10 App Essentials latest snapshot released

 

Hi all,

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on snapshot for May 17, 2016. The notable change is recognition of certain dialogs as proper dialogs, including one crucial dialog that’ll be included much later this summer.

The add-on page is at:

http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: nvda settings with configuration

Gene
 

I sent this message to the wrong list.
 
Gene
----- Original message3 -----

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda settings with configuration

I see that my question about whether the unit speaks has been answered.  I don't have a preference about whether you use two sound cards or try to solve the DECTalk problem.  It all depends on if you have a preference.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: John
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 1:17 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda settings with configuration

        I was trying to figure out why after i go to general settings under where you can adjust voice settings what not. But when i go under the general settings and make my adjustments. It's not saving my settings when hitting ok. As a matter and fact when i hit ok it doesnt clsoe the window, so soon as i hit escape it closes it and goes back to the previous settings before i made changes. Not sure why hitting enter on the ok button doesnt do anything.


Re: nvda settings with configuration

Gene
 

I see that my question about whether the unit speaks has been answered.  I don't have a preference about whether you use two sound cards or try to solve the DECTalk problem.  It all depends on if you have a preference.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: John
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 1:17 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda settings with configuration

        I was trying to figure out why after i go to general settings under where you can adjust voice settings what not. But when i go under the general settings and make my adjustments. It's not saving my settings when hitting ok. As a matter and fact when i hit ok it doesnt clsoe the window, so soon as i hit escape it closes it and goes back to the previous settings before i made changes. Not sure why hitting enter on the ok button doesnt do anything.


Re: Anti-Virus

Andrea Sherry
 

Thanks for that information.

Andrea


On 18/05/2016 12:51 AM, Angela Delicata via Groups.io wrote:
Eset nod 32.


Il 17/05/2016 12:20, Andrea Sherry ha scritto:
Opinions about the most accessible with NVDA.

Does not have to be freeware. In fact I would prefer a paid for program.

Any suggestions please.

Andrea



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Re: Anti-Virus

 

I run malwarebytes when I suspect.
To be honest I'd prefur proactive blockers that I have in ff like noscript and addblock + to actual reactive measures.
I have been through the security suites, false alarms and the like and by now everyone here should know my rants, for the rest that don't while I like security I will not have it over accessibility or stability as far as windows is stable and accessible.
Been there, done that.
I now have a stable 3 system network, and several remotes some of which users do not have the cash to afford to much.
If I actually had to buy protection and this is a big if, I would have to shoulder the cost mostly myself.
I can't do that, especially since one of my game investment companies is not producing, in fact if it continues I may have to cut ties with it entirely.
I have had supposed security companies require me to babysit my system, and have also had false alarms cause more dammage than malware has.
I know full well windows has had issues with these things to and there are slowdowns.\
One day I came to the end of my rope.
I'll take my chances, I know that this is a but stupid and dumb but after I went to msse, my babysitting dropped to near 0 in fact I can leave my remotes to selfupdate especially with 10 running just check them once a year for user issues.
Before I was fixing all the issues created by the security software and the users issues with it and the user issues and all the instabilities created by those issues.
In some cases I had to reformat to make sure it was at a level I could trace it back.
The issue never came up when I traced it on standard configuration.
If I do hit another security thing, I'd like a proactive rather than reactive solution well I will have a demand one maybe to, and cloud protection is a must.
Now One of the plans is to get a cloud server locally so maybe I can devote part of its resources to put a decent protection system in for when I am at home.
Or working at home but I have got used to not needing to worry about my security to much.
Not clicking things and being carefull does help to.
Obviously if you do not crack software and don't actually do to many crazy things you should be ok.

On 18/05/2016 4:29 a.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
The question really is though, how effective are they and how invasive.
some now report nvdas activities as suspicious, so I've stayed with
Microsofts one.
It does seem to pick up threats, but as in any of them, one can never
know what they miss. Many people seem to have some malware run once
solutions as well to double check how the main one is working.

This leads me to ask one question. In Windows 10, it says its using
Windows Defender. Is this what we used to call MSSE in previous versions
of Windows, but the question is, although it seems to say its working,
I have not yet found out how one actually administers it like we used to
do in msse, ie I see no tray icon at all.

Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti-Virus


Dear Andrea!


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Re: Fly Outs?

 

it always does this first time automatically.
If you then try to go back to it by navigating to it again it will work, its done this on win7 to my guess is it is showing a status window but its not a window and since you can enter it again or right click it it doesn't matter much.

On 18/05/2016 1:50 a.m., Pete wrote:

Hi
The network icon in the sys tray does this:
go to the sys tray
arrow to the network icon
wait for it
it opens up or flys out of accessibility.
not navigable using tab or arrow keys
might be able to use the mouse
not sure haven't tried just hid the darn thing.
Pete


On 5/13/2016 7:34 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,


When I click on a file type that Windows doesn't recognize, I get this
fly out business. It asks me what program I want to use and gives me
a somewhat inaccessible GUI type interface. By routing around with
the review type cursor, you can make choices. I don't know if the fly
out reference occurs any other times, but this is where i get it in
Window 8.1.



On 5/13/2016 7:16 AM, Gene wrote:
Flyout is a term long before Windows 10. I don't recall technically
what a flyout is but I've seen the term network flyout when I issue
an incompatible command to open the connection manager in the System
Tray. I don't know if the term is used in other ways.

Gene
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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:58 AM
To:nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Fly Outs?


so I've never come across these before.seems to be just in windows
10. What
are they and how does one interact with them exactly?

Brian

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Re: NVDA, and the new version of iTunes.

Chris
 

update: sent feedback to apple regarding this, so if others an do same they may pull they finger out :)
 
cheers
 



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: 17 May 2016 20:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, and the new version of iTunes.

same here :(
 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: 17 May 2016 18:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA, and the new version of iTunes.

Just wanted to let everyone no, that iTunes is broken, i think.
In the new version, if you pick a album or song, NVDA doesn't read the song or album your on unless you shift+Tab.
Confused.


Re: NVDA, and the new version of iTunes.

Lino Morales
 

Yeah I hate the new design. It sucks.


On 5/17/2016 3:05 PM, Chris wrote:
same here :(
 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: 17 May 2016 18:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA, and the new version of iTunes.

Just wanted to let everyone no, that iTunes is broken, i think.
In the new version, if you pick a album or song, NVDA doesn't read the song or album your on unless you shift+Tab.
Confused.


Re: NVDA, and the new version of iTunes.

Chris
 

same here :(
 



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: 17 May 2016 18:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA, and the new version of iTunes.

Just wanted to let everyone no, that iTunes is broken, i think.
In the new version, if you pick a album or song, NVDA doesn't read the song or album your on unless you shift+Tab.
Confused.


Re: Anti-Virus

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,

Yes Windows Defender is what used to be called MSE in earlier versions. There is not a tray icon as far as I know. If you want to get to it, open the start menu and type defender and it should be the first result. Also you can do a Windows key plus I and arrow to update and security. Once in update and security there is an option for Windows Defender.


Regards,

Greg Wocher

On 5/17/2016 12:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
The question really is though, how effective are they and how invasive.
some now report nvdas activities as suspicious, so I've stayed with Microsofts one.
It does seem to pick up threats, but as in any of them, one can never know what they miss. Many people seem to have some malware run once solutions as well to double check how the main one is working.

This leads me to ask one question. In Windows 10, it says its using Windows Defender. Is this what we used to call MSSE in previous versions of Windows, but the question is, although it seems to say its working, I have not yet found out how one actually administers it like we used to do in msse, ie I see no tray icon at all.

Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti-Virus


Dear Andrea!


Vipre is the best!

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Re: NVDA, and the new version of iTunes.

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Please, let
accessibility@apple.com
know of this. Just because it’s a Windows program doesn’t mean they’re not interested, because after all they developed it for both Mac and Windows.

On 17 May 2016, at 18:30, Matt Turner <meturner2214@gmail.com> wrote:

Just wanted to let everyone no, that iTunes is broken, i think.
In the new version, if you pick a album or song, NVDA doesn't read the song or album your on unless you shift+Tab.
Confused.


NVDA, and the new version of iTunes.

Matt Turner
 

Just wanted to let everyone no, that iTunes is broken, i think.
In the new version, if you pick a album or song, NVDA doesn't read the song or album your on unless you shift+Tab.
Confused.


Re: Anti-Virus

Rui Fontes
 

What languages these antivirus have?

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Governor staten
Data: tera-feira, 17 de maio de 2016 16:56
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Anti-Virus

Sophos home. You get a license for up to ten computers. It is
accessible, and free. It usually stays out of the way.

On 5/17/2016 11:40 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
A friend of mine uses Nod 32.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrea
Sherry
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Anti-Virus

Opinions about the most accessible with NVDA.

Does not have to be freeware. In fact I would prefer a paid for program.

Any suggestions please.

Andrea



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Re: Anti-Virus

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

The question really is though, how effective are they and how invasive.
some now report nvdas activities as suspicious, so I've stayed with Microsofts one.
It does seem to pick up threats, but as in any of them, one can never know what they miss. Many people seem to have some malware run once solutions as well to double check how the main one is working.

This leads me to ask one question. In Windows 10, it says its using Windows Defender. Is this what we used to call MSSE in previous versions of Windows, but the question is, although it seems to say its working, I have not yet found out how one actually administers it like we used to do in msse, ie I see no tray icon at all.

Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti-Virus


Dear Andrea!


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Re: Sighted instructins, was Fly Outsn?

Patrick Le Baudour
 

It can be used for gui designing, to open files in some applications (I don't remeber why, but I have had to use that in the past) - that would just require to put it in the correct window -, sometimes to add in a zip file, or to execute a program with a file parameter that is in the same opened folder, or to do individual item sorting in explorer or another application...
Most things can be done other ways, drag and drop was quite convenient in some cases, though.


-- Patrick

Le 17/05/2016 à 00:15, Brian Vogel a écrit :
Arianna,

Drag-and-drop is a very frequently used operation, in many
contexts. In file explorer or windows explorer (depending on which
version of Windows you're using) moving files and folders from place to
place is most commonly done by drag-and-drop, which makes a lot of sense
intuitively because the visuals are as though you've picked up the
selected items and are carrying them from location A to location B. Of
course, this is easily done by select, cut, and paste via the keyboard.

In Microsoft Word, one can position things like tables,
images, and the like by dragging them and dropping them where you'd like
them. Mind you, Word will often not put them precisely where you
thought because it needs to flow text around it or the like, but text
wrapping can be changed such that you get precisely what you want.

There are websites where there are quizzes or tests that
operate by drag-and-drop. For instance, you have a list of terms on one
side and definitions on the other. Often you'll drag-and-drop an
electronic line between the term and what you believe to be its
definition, very much like the paper version of a test that works this way.

The problem with drag-and-drop is that, in the vast majority
of cases, is it's directly dependent on sight. You need to be able to
see source and destination, regardless of context, and to know when
you've reached your destination visually to do the drop. There are some
situations where that may not be the case, but they're relatively few
and far between, and I'm hard pressed at the moment to come up with a
good example. It will probably occur to me right after I hit "send" or
I'll encounter one by happenstance later this evening.

By the way, I seldom use drag and drop to move files
anymore. I far more commonly cut and paste.

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Re: Anti-Virus

lali <lali.belteki1@...>
 

Dear Andrea!


    Vipre is the best!


Re: Anti-Virus

 

Sophos home. You get a license for up to ten computers. It is
accessible, and free. It usually stays out of the way.

On 5/17/2016 11:40 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
A friend of mine uses Nod 32.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Anti-Virus

Opinions about the most accessible with NVDA.

Does not have to be freeware. In fact I would prefer a paid for program.

Any suggestions please.

Andrea



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Re: Anti-Virus

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

A friend of mine uses Nod 32.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Anti-Virus

Opinions about the most accessible with NVDA.

Does not have to be freeware. In fact I would prefer a paid for program.

Any suggestions please.

Andrea



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Re: Anti-Virus

Angela Delicata
 

Eset nod 32.


Il 17/05/2016 12:20, Andrea Sherry ha scritto:
Opinions about the most accessible with NVDA.

Does not have to be freeware. In fact I would prefer a paid for program.

Any suggestions please.

Andrea

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