On Jun 18, 2018, at 11:07 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:

Helo,

As stated in the NVDA manual, Microsoft Word section,:
10.1.3. Reporting Comments
To report any comments at the current caret position, press NVDA+alt+c. All comments for the document, along with other tracked changes, can also be listed in the NVDA Elements List when selecting Annotations as the type.

Rui Fontes


Às 15:48 de 18/06/2018, Mary Otten escreveu:

I just got a document from a friend, and NVDA is saying "has comment" as I read through it. How can I read the comments and then get back to the text?

Press the applications key to get the suggestions, in browser editor
like message body in web interface e-mail.

On 6/18/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

I doubt there is a universal spell checker. E-mail programs generally
have
their own spell checkers. Outlook Express doesn't have it's own spell
checker. There is at least one spell checker that can be used but I
don’t
know how good it is.

If you are using a browser to send a message, incorrectly spelled words
are
flagged but I am not aware of suggestions, just the flag. At times, I use
a
word processor with a spell checker to write and spell check something
and
then paste it into the web site's editor.

I don't know if there are formatting proboems doing this and I often
correct
spelling errors manually in the web site editor.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again


What is a solution for a spell checker if one does not have Office
installed?

I have office both at home and at work, and I rely on a spell checker to
make sure I don’t send out misspelled words.

I recall the JawsLite list used to offer a spell checker utility that
when
installed, gave a spell checker for eMail clients.

I’m not sure if captcha is in the dictionary, but for other instances, it
is
a must.

I think that most Blind folks who lost their sight early on are bad
spellers, since we listen to material more than we read it in Braille.

I know that my spelling is not as good as it was when I could read print.

But it is important for us to send messages without misspelled words.

Glenn





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 5:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again



It isn't a typo. It is the result of the chronic and widespread practice
of
a lot of blind people not checking spelling of unfamiliar words and
relying
on speech for the spelling. it doesn't matter what you explain or how.
If
you write to a business or web site administrator or whomever in a
business
capacity, and misspell the name of the thing you are writing about, you
lose
considerable credibility and do not look competent.



And how do you know that the thought doesn't arise in the recipient, "If
the
person is misspelling the name to this extent, maybe the person doesn't
know
how to use the captcha. If you want credibility in the sighted business
and
other professional worlds, spell correctly and use correct names. A
typographical error is mistyping; This is misspelling. and this issue
goes
much further. If you don't check names to be sure the spelling is
correct,
for example of the person you are writing to, you might use a w at the
end
of a name when you should use o u g h. and in your specific case,
someone
might spell Brian with a y instead of with an I or visa versa. And the
list
goes on.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:28 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again



You are worrying about typos. We know what we mean. If I was writing to a
company I'd explain the actual issue without trying to use buzz words for
them.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Laz" <laz@talkingmp3players.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

Sure, but if one is going to write a company to complain about their
use of quote captures unquote on their web site, they're either going
to think you're nuts or won't know what you're talking about. It's a
good idea to call something what it is or one won't get very far. It's
like going to a deli and asking for a cam shaft sandwich when one
should have said Corned Beef Hash instead. the two phrases are
different things just as capture and captcha are two totally different
things.

Laz

On 6/16/18, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:

Actually, i've even spelled it correctly and most people don't even
know
what that even is called. Lol! I didn't even know the term until maybe
2012.
and even my sighted relitaves don't get it. they are like, what is that
and
I don't understand.

On Jun 16, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins
<computersassociated@gmail.com> wrote:

That is good to know, I would have spelled it wrong too. This is why I
need to use the spell by character more often. Thanks for the tip!
Daniel Hawkins
computersassociated@gmail.com <mailto:computersassociated@gmail.com>

On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com
<mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>> wrote:

The word is c a p t c h a, captcha. If you write to someone
complaining
about inaccessible captures, you will loose credibility.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<mailto:bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 9:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

I don't think so, is there no audio version?
The problem is everyone these days is security paranoid. I did not
know

about the capchar, but I have just sent them an email about the
inaccessible
dialogues and messages.
I also have a big list of some of the problems on the dev list but
no
dev
has commented. I shall turn it into a ticket if i get time this
weekend.

However if its not possible to tweak nvda to get these things to
read,
not
withstanding the cap char then i feel that somebody in NVDA a
programmer

really needs to have a word with them as they talk the same language.
A
lot
of it is written in python QT and C. It should be perfectly possible
to
fix
the dialogues as they made them work before.
As for the Capchar, Google is gradually removing those in favour of
a
question based system like.
If the sky is cloudy is it blue.
To which the answer is no of course.
I particularly like the one that says in the edit field, if you are
not

a

robot leave this field blank.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>, putting
'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
This message sent from a Windows XP machine!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com
<mailto:paganus2@gmail.com>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

Also, it's now very difficult to accept an invite from another
person
to
share a folder. You used to just get an email and it says who is
asking

you to share and there are 2 buttons--one says accept and the other
says
decline. That was so easy! Now you are taken to a web page of some
kind

and it asks you to solve a captcha and this can no longer be done
as
Webvisum is finished for Firefox, and I know of nothing like it
that
works
with any other browser. Seems like dropbox wants us to just go
away.

Roger










On 6/16/2018 6:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
wrote:

I wanted to share a folder today, but it seems on the current
version

this dialogue no longer works with nvda either. it just is a blank
page
saying its the shaere with another user item, but just like the
preferences and the delete from all machines and devices one its
totally
empty of any controls that read at all.

Anyone care to comment?
If its also happening in windows 10 maybe we can write en masse to
Dropbox to get them to correct this.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
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I doubt there is a universal spell checker. E-mail programs generally have
their own spell checkers. Outlook Express doesn't have it's own spell
checker. There is at least one spell checker that can be used but I don’t
know how good it is.

If you are using a browser to send a message, incorrectly spelled words are
flagged but I am not aware of suggestions, just the flag. At times, I use a
word processor with a spell checker to write and spell check something and
then paste it into the web site's editor.

I don't know if there are formatting proboems doing this and I often correct
spelling errors manually in the web site editor.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again


What is a solution for a spell checker if one does not have Office
installed?

I have office both at home and at work, and I rely on a spell checker to
make sure I don’t send out misspelled words.

I recall the JawsLite list used to offer a spell checker utility that when
installed, gave a spell checker for eMail clients.

I’m not sure if captcha is in the dictionary, but for other instances, it is
a must.

I think that most Blind folks who lost their sight early on are bad
spellers, since we listen to material more than we read it in Braille.

I know that my spelling is not as good as it was when I could read print.

But it is important for us to send messages without misspelled words.

Glenn





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 5:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again



It isn't a typo. It is the result of the chronic and widespread practice of
a lot of blind people not checking spelling of unfamiliar words and relying
on speech for the spelling. it doesn't matter what you explain or how. If
you write to a business or web site administrator or whomever in a business
capacity, and misspell the name of the thing you are writing about, you lose
considerable credibility and do not look competent.



And how do you know that the thought doesn't arise in the recipient, "If the
person is misspelling the name to this extent, maybe the person doesn't know
how to use the captcha. If you want credibility in the sighted business and
other professional worlds, spell correctly and use correct names. A
typographical error is mistyping; This is misspelling. and this issue goes
much further. If you don't check names to be sure the spelling is correct,
for example of the person you are writing to, you might use a w at the end
of a name when you should use o u g h. and in your specific case, someone
might spell Brian with a y instead of with an I or visa versa. And the list
goes on.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:28 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again



You are worrying about typos. We know what we mean. If I was writing to a
company I'd explain the actual issue without trying to use buzz words for
them.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laz" <laz@talkingmp3players.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

Sure, but if one is going to write a company to complain about their
use of quote captures unquote on their web site, they're either going
to think you're nuts or won't know what you're talking about. It's a
good idea to call something what it is or one won't get very far. It's
like going to a deli and asking for a cam shaft sandwich when one
should have said Corned Beef Hash instead. the two phrases are
different things just as capture and captcha are two totally different
things.

Laz

On 6/16/18, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:

Actually, i've even spelled it correctly and most people don't even know
what that even is called. Lol! I didn't even know the term until maybe
2012.
and even my sighted relitaves don't get it. they are like, what is that
and
I don't understand.

On Jun 16, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins
<computersassociated@gmail.com> wrote:

That is good to know, I would have spelled it wrong too. This is why I
need to use the spell by character more often. Thanks for the tip!
Daniel Hawkins
computersassociated@gmail.com <mailto:computersassociated@gmail.com>

On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com
<mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>> wrote:

The word is c a p t c h a, captcha. If you write to someone
complaining
about inaccessible captures, you will loose credibility.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<mailto:bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 9:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

I don't think so, is there no audio version?
The problem is everyone these days is security paranoid. I did not
know

about the capchar, but I have just sent them an email about the
inaccessible
dialogues and messages.
I also have a big list of some of the problems on the dev list but no
dev
has commented. I shall turn it into a ticket if i get time this
weekend.

However if its not possible to tweak nvda to get these things to read,
not
withstanding the cap char then i feel that somebody in NVDA a
programmer

really needs to have a word with them as they talk the same language.
A
lot
of it is written in python QT and C. It should be perfectly possible
to
fix
the dialogues as they made them work before.
As for the Capchar, Google is gradually removing those in favour of a
question based system like.
If the sky is cloudy is it blue.
To which the answer is no of course.
I particularly like the one that says in the edit field, if you are not

a

robot leave this field blank.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>, putting
'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
This message sent from a Windows XP machine!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com <mailto:paganus2@gmail.com>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

Also, it's now very difficult to accept an invite from another
person
to
share a folder. You used to just get an email and it says who is
asking

you to share and there are 2 buttons--one says accept and the other
says
decline. That was so easy! Now you are taken to a web page of some
kind

and it asks you to solve a captcha and this can no longer be done as
Webvisum is finished for Firefox, and I know of nothing like it that
works
with any other browser. Seems like dropbox wants us to just go away.

Roger










On 6/16/2018 6:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I wanted to share a folder today, but it seems on the current
version

this dialogue no longer works with nvda either. it just is a blank
page
saying its the shaere with another user item, but just like the
preferences and the delete from all machines and devices one its
totally
empty of any controls that read at all.

Anyone care to comment?
If its also happening in windows 10 maybe we can write en masse to
Dropbox to get them to correct this.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>, putting
'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

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Bluetooth devices, and accessories
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Email: laz@talkingmp3players.com
Phone: 727-498-0121
Skype: lazmesa
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On Jun 18, 2018, at 6:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:

Actually its only  a stupid law to those who are ethical. Those who do all sorts of collecting should now have to come clean. As to whether in fact this occurs we shall have to wait and see. Its all this fake news twitface privacy and all that stuff that has sparked this
I guess the honeymoon is over. it has now become abundantly clear what the cost of the basic free internet infrastructure and web sites really is, and its up to an informed public to decide if its worth it or not.
More worrying I think is the loss of net Neutrality at the federal level in the United states, which in effect could allow a service  provider to prioritise traffic from a source they have deals with or pay extra, and slow down or block others unless the user pays a second time for a subscription item. many states have actually brought back in local neutrality laws in an attempt to stop  large companies exploiting customers in this way.

However time warner and at and to merging yesterday looks like bad news for our American internet users to me.
Brian

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Please address personal E-mail to:-
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: "nvda list list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] earlier master snapshot concerned


Yeah I saw that to and knew what was ogin on already, the stupid law in my humble opinion, but I did comply by saying yes.

On Jun 17, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:

Hi, Quentin thanks for the confirmation so basically this is just a new prompts dialog added to the master snapshot. 😊

Robert Mendoza

On 6/18/2018 9:40 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Robert,

The information is the same as we have collected previously, as the dialog indicates, OS and NVDA version, language used, country, synthesizer, Braille diaplsy and table,  This information is collected when NVDA checks for updates.  Nothing secure or private is ever transmitted, no spoken content or anything like that is shared.

Prompted by the new privacy regulations in the EU, we wanted to be as open about what data we collect as possible.

For anyone interested, the dialog reads: "In order to improve NVDA in the future, NV Access wishes to collect usage data from running copies of NVDA.

Data includes Operating System version, NVDA version, language, country of origin, plus certain NVDA
configuration such as current synthesizer, braille display and braille table. No spoken or braille content will be ever
sent to NV Access.  Please refer to the User Guide for a current list of all data collected.

Do you wish to allow NV Access to periodically collect this data in order to improve NVDA."

We use this information for several purposes:
- Having an idea about many users we have overall is good to use in promotion.
- Knowing that we have a lot of users in a particular country enables us to do things like prioritising translating information for users in that country.
- Conversely, if there is a large country that we are not reaching, maybe it is because we do not have a translator for the main language used there and that is something we can concentrate on looking for.
- Knowing how many users are on a particular version of Windows allows us to ensure we support what our users are working on. For instance, when we dropped support for XP, we knew that only a very small percentage of users were still using XP.

We try to collect the minimum information possible which gives us valuable information.  You can opt out of this information collection if you prefer, although it does give us more useful data if the majority of our users allow it.



On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@... <mailto:lowvisiontek@...>> wrote:
   After I updated the master snapshot today and installed to my machine, it prompts me with something like nvda will periodically collects of activity. Not clearly stated but looking around at the Users Guide to look what is all about this feature is. I appreciate your feedback for this one or, is this part of the new integration for the master snapshot version, and how will extend to where does to runs. Primarily, kinda concerned what is all about with this and wanting to make sure it does not violates the entirely the privacy of my machine and security. If someone could shed info about this, I truly appreciated it.

Robert Mendoza







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What is a solution for a spell checker if one does not have Office installed?
I have office both at home and at work, and I rely on a spell checker to make sure I don’t send out misspelled words.
I recall the JawsLite list used to offer a spell checker utility that when installed, gave a spell checker for eMail clients.
I’m not sure if captcha is in the dictionary, but for other instances, it is a must.
I think that most Blind folks who lost their sight early on are bad spellers, since we listen to material more than we read it in Braille.
I know that my spelling is not as good as it was when I could read print.
But it is important for us to send messages without misspelled words.
Glenn


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 5:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

It isn't a typo. It is the result of the chronic and widespread practice of a lot of blind people not checking spelling of unfamiliar words and relying on speech for the spelling. it doesn't matter what you explain or how. If you write to a business or web site administrator or whomever in a business capacity, and misspell the name of the thing you are writing about, you lose considerable credibility and do not look competent.

And how do you know that the thought doesn't arise in the recipient, "If the person is misspelling the name to this extent, maybe the person doesn't know how to use the captcha. If you want credibility in the sighted business and other professional worlds, spell correctly and use correct names. A typographical error is mistyping; This is misspelling. and this issue goes much further. If you don't check names to be sure the spelling is correct, for example of the person you are writing to, you might use a w at the end of a name when you should use o u g h. and in your specific case, someone might spell Brian with a y instead of with an I or visa versa. And the list goes on.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io<mailto:bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

You are worrying about typos. We know what we mean. If I was writing to a
company I'd explain the actual issue without trying to use buzz words for
them.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk<mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk<mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laz" <laz@talkingmp3players.com<mailto:laz@talkingmp3players.com>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

Sure, but if one is going to write a company to complain about their
use of quote captures unquote on their web site, they're either going
to think you're nuts or won't know what you're talking about. It's a
good idea to call something what it is or one won't get very far. It's
like going to a deli and asking for a cam shaft sandwich when one
should have said Corned Beef Hash instead. the two phrases are
different things just as capture and captcha are two totally different
things.

Laz

On 6/16/18, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com<mailto:marrie12@gmail.com>> wrote:

Actually, i've even spelled it correctly and most people don't even know
what that even is called. Lol! I didn't even know the term until maybe
2012.
and even my sighted relitaves don't get it. they are like, what is that
and
I don't understand.

On Jun 16, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Daniel Hawkins
<computersassociated@gmail.com<mailto:computersassociated@gmail.com>> wrote:

That is good to know, I would have spelled it wrong too. This is why I
need to use the spell by character more often. Thanks for the tip!
Daniel Hawkins
computersassociated@gmail.com<mailto:computersassociated@gmail.com> <mailto:computersassociated@gmail.com>

On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com<mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
<mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>> wrote:

The word is c a p t c h a, captcha. If you write to someone
complaining
about inaccessible captures, you will loose credibility.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<mailto:bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 9:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

I don't think so, is there no audio version?
The problem is everyone these days is security paranoid. I did not
know

about the capchar, but I have just sent them an email about the
inaccessible
dialogues and messages.
I also have a big list of some of the problems on the dev list but no
dev
has commented. I shall turn it into a ticket if i get time this
weekend.

However if its not possible to tweak nvda to get these things to read,
not
withstanding the cap char then i feel that somebody in NVDA a
programmer

really needs to have a word with them as they talk the same language. A
lot
of it is written in python QT and C. It should be perfectly possible to
fix
the dialogues as they made them work before.
As for the Capchar, Google is gradually removing those in favour of a
question based system like.
If the sky is cloudy is it blue.
To which the answer is no of course.
I particularly like the one that says in the edit field, if you are not
a

robot leave this field blank.
Brian

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Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox innaccessibility again

Also, it's now very difficult to accept an invite from another person
to
share a folder. You used to just get an email and it says who is
asking

you to share and there are 2 buttons--one says accept and the other
says
decline. That was so easy! Now you are taken to a web page of some
kind

and it asks you to solve a captcha and this can no longer be done as
Webvisum is finished for Firefox, and I know of nothing like it that
works
with any other browser. Seems like dropbox wants us to just go away.

Roger










On 6/16/2018 6:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I wanted to share a folder today, but it seems on the current
version

this dialogue no longer works with nvda either. it just is a blank
page
saying its the shaere with another user item, but just like the
preferences and the delete from all machines and devices one its
totally
empty of any controls that read at all.

Anyone care to comment?
If its also happening in windows 10 maybe we can write en masse to
Dropbox to get them to correct this.
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Actually its only  a stupid law to those who are ethical. Those who do all sorts of collecting should now have to come clean. As to whether in fact this occurs we shall have to wait and see. Its all this fake news twitface privacy and all that stuff that has sparked this
I guess the honeymoon is over. it has now become abundantly clear what the cost of the basic free internet infrastructure and web sites really is, and its up to an informed public to decide if its worth it or not.
More worrying I think is the loss of net Neutrality at the federal level in the United states, which in effect could allow a service provider to prioritise traffic from a source they have deals with or pay extra, and slow down or block others unless the user pays a second time for a subscription item. many states have actually brought back in local neutrality laws in an attempt to stop  large companies exploiting customers in this way.

However time warner and at and to merging yesterday looks like bad news for our American internet users to me.
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Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] earlier master snapshot concerned


Yeah I saw that to and knew what was ogin on already, the stupid law in my humble opinion, but I did comply by saying yes.

On Jun 17, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Quentin thanks for the confirmation so basically this is just a new prompts dialog added to the master snapshot. 😊

Robert Mendoza

On 6/18/2018 9:40 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Robert,

The information is the same as we have collected previously, as the dialog indicates, OS and NVDA version, language used, country, synthesizer, Braille diaplsy and table,  This information is collected when NVDA checks for updates. Nothing secure or private is ever transmitted, no spoken content or anything like that is shared.

Prompted by the new privacy regulations in the EU, we wanted to be as open about what data we collect as possible.

For anyone interested, the dialog reads: "In order to improve NVDA in the future, NV Access wishes to collect usage data from running copies of NVDA.

Data includes Operating System version, NVDA version, language, country of origin, plus certain NVDA
configuration such as current synthesizer, braille display and braille table. No spoken or braille content will be ever
sent to NV Access.  Please refer to the User Guide for a current list of all data collected.

Do you wish to allow NV Access to periodically collect this data in order to improve NVDA."

We use this information for several purposes:
- Having an idea about many users we have overall is good to use in promotion.
- Knowing that we have a lot of users in a particular country enables us to do things like prioritising translating information for users in that country.
- Conversely, if there is a large country that we are not reaching, maybe it is because we do not have a translator for the main language used there and that is something we can concentrate on looking for.
- Knowing how many users are on a particular version of Windows allows us to ensure we support what our users are working on.  For instance, when we dropped support for XP, we knew that only a very small percentage of users were still using XP.

We try to collect the minimum information possible which gives us valuable information.  You can opt out of this information collection if you prefer, although it does give us more useful data if the majority of our users allow it.



On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>> wrote:
    After I updated the master snapshot today and installed to my machine, it prompts me with something like nvda will periodically collects of activity. Not clearly stated but looking around at the Users Guide to look what is all about this feature is. I appreciate your feedback for this one or, is this part of the new integration for the master snapshot version, and how will extend to where does to runs. Primarily, kinda concerned what is all about with this and wanting to make sure it does not violates the entirely the privacy of my machine and security. If someone could shed info about this, I truly appreciated it.

Robert Mendoza







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Well I've had no luck with aAvast. It seems their protection system stops screenreaders accessing their screens properly and if you disable it with sighted help, then its forever complaining its vulnerable.
So I gave it the bi E off my machine using avarstclean.
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Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 5:23 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA And Avast Free Anti Virus

Hi Group,

Is there any add on or perhaps some sort of technique for using the main interface or in particular, the registration panel in the Avast Free Anti Virus program?

I used to be able to enter the registration information every year for the free upgrade, but something may have changed either in NVDA or Avast to make this impossible for me this year.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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For what it's worth, one more potential solution that I found is to use
Google Chrome - it comes with a PDF reader, that seems to understand
spaces between words better. If the file is on your local computer, then
just type its full path into the address bar (e.g.
"C:\Users\tony\SomeFile.pdf"). Or if the file is online, just ytpe its
URL in the adress bar.



On 6/17/2018 2:19 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

I know I've come across this before but I just can't recall the
solution.  I've got a PDF file which when I read it, parts of it read
with no spaces between words (ditto copying the text out or saving to
a text file).

It is something to do with how Adobe Reader interprets the spaces in
files created with certain other products, but what I can't remember,
is how do I fix it, please?

Regards

Quentin.

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Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 1:58 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] text aloud reader

choose run for free that will get you on the trial
if memory serves it is either a 30 day trial or a 15 day trial
I haven't used the trial in ages sense I all ready own the product
by the way it is a awesome program

On 6/18/2018 8:00 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

hi

i am trying to install text aloud

but i dont no how to register and activate the program

i wen throught the installation, when it is finish it is asking me to either run as free or activate with a code

not sure what to do

 

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I just got a document from a friend, and NVDA is saying "has comment" as I read through it. How can I read the comments and then get back to the text?

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Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 9:27 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] facebook ??

Danni,
You don't need to send it to anyone to know if the pic was saved successfully.
When you're going to save the pic just press tab until you hear NVDA saying the file's type. If it's JPG or something like this, then you did all right and now it's just save the pic on the place you'd like. :)

Em 17/06/2018 15:48, Danni escreveu:

I think it did work I need to send it to someone so I can be sure! took a bit of movin around to find the right place to be cuz right click didn't quite get me there I think I found a show picture or something haha my youngest grandson was here yesterday my brain is muddled haha thanks so much for the help!

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Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 6:30 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] facebook ??

Hi Danni,
Could you save the pic?
Em 16/06/2018 11:41, Danni escreveu:

Thanks was using i/e because firefox wasn't letting me so I'll try that way thanks!

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Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2018 12:07 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] facebook ??

Hi, I'm back.
Well, first of all I need to know some things, such as which browser are you using when you tried to save the pic.
But assuming you're using Firefox, that's what I use...
Before downloading the pic you must choose to see it in a full size. You'll be able to find it tabing in the page that opens with the comments and reactions about the� post.
So, after you're in full size pic screen, you should be able to save it as a pic on itself.

Em 16/06/2018 01:37, Danni escreveu:

when I try a right click and save target as it calls it a document not a pic am not sure what changed to cause this but figured I'd ask?

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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:45 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] facebook ??

Hi,
Exactly what kind of trouble are you having?

Em 15/06/2018 19:44, Danni escreveu:

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I have started having trouble taking pictures from people's facebook pages and am wondering if by chance there is an addon or something that can help?

�

when I try a right click and save target as it calls it a document not a pic am not sure what changed to cause this but figured I'd ask?

�

Hi everyone,

I know I've come across this before but I just can't recall the solution.  I've got a PDF file which when I read it, parts of it read with no spaces between words (ditto copying the text out or saving to a text file).

It is something to do with how Adobe Reader interprets the spaces in files created with certain other products, but what I can't remember, is how do I fix it, please?

Regards

Quentin.

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www.nvaccess.org 

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It's an imap account.



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Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

If it's an IMAP or Microsoft Exchange account, you can probably just
delete
your *.ost files. Mine are found in the user profile folder, under
AppData\local\Microsoft\Outlook. You need to close Outlook before deleting
the files.

When you start Outlook again, it will retrieve the messages from the
server
and recreate those files.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

I'll call the Microsoft disability line tomorrow and see what they say. It
very well could be a corruption in the indexing.



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Subject: Re: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

Take the machine back to when you saw them last? However I'm not
optimistic.

I seem to remember this sort of thing happening in older Outlooks back
when
I tried to use it.
Its normally some corruption in the indexing in Outlook. Maybe there is an
answer on the Microsoft Office forum?
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From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 6:55 AM
Subject: [nvda] messages disappearing from my folders in outlook

Hi, everyone,



I don't know what happened to some of my messages that I had from
other lists that I'm on. They just suddenly disappeared. I know I
didn't delete them. I tried looking in the junk folder but they're not
there. Is there something else I can do?



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie

Hello,
I found that when you uncheck the "Report object descriptions" parameter, the message included in the dialog boxes like "Add-on Installation" is not announced.
Do you think it's normal?
Thanks.
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