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Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Albert Ruel
 

Thanks.  I have it. 

 

From: Arlene [mailto:nedster66@...]
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 12:48 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hey, if Brandon says it’s okay to pass this along. I’ll be happy to pass the MP3 file!

 

From: Gene New Zealand [mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...]
Sent: March-07-16 12:28 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

The following link should get you to the mp3 file.. When you go to the webpage, locate the file then save it

The link to it is http://williambrandes.com/a_nvda/

Gene nz

On 08-Mar-16 9:17 AM, Albert Ruel wrote:

May I please request a copy of that MP3 file. My email address is, AlbertRuel@....

Thx, Albert

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,

 

Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Arlene
 

Hey, if Brandon says it’s okay to pass this along. I’ll be happy to pass the MP3 file!

 

From: Gene New Zealand [mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...]
Sent: March-07-16 12:28 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

The following link should get you to the mp3 file.. When you go to the webpage, locate the file then save it

The link to it is http://williambrandes.com/a_nvda/

Gene nz

On 08-Mar-16 9:17 AM, Albert Ruel wrote:

May I please request a copy of that MP3 file. My email address is, AlbertRuel@....

Thx, Albert

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,

 

Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Arlene
 

Sure! I’ll give it to you!

 

From: Albert Ruel [mailto:albertruel@...]
Sent: March-07-16 12:17 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

May I please request a copy of that MP3 file. My email address is, AlbertRuel@....

Thx, Albert

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,

Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Gene NZ <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

The following link should get you to the mp3 file.. When you go to the webpage, locate the file then save it

The link to it is http://williambrandes.com/a_nvda/

Gene nz


On 08-Mar-16 9:17 AM, Albert Ruel wrote:
May I please request a copy of that MP3 file. My email address is, AlbertRuel@....

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Albert Ruel
 

May I please request a copy of that MP3 file. My email address is, AlbertRuel@....

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,

Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Gene NZ <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Brandon

I just listened to your tutorial on Utube. I like the tutorials where people go step by step.

would I be able to link to the tutorial. I noticed there was a utube version and one where you put the mp3 file. Is the second one like google storage? or a private one?

It will be linked either to the nvda tutorials for other programs page or maye up on the nvda audio tutorials page on my website I am putting together called Accessibility Central.net which can be found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
I have also downloaded the mp3 file as well. Not sure how much space I have left in my dropbox account otherwise I could put a copy there,I would have to shrink it down.
I don't think there is much.

It if allowed will be linked up tonight when I do some more update to my website.

Gene nz
 

On 07-Mar-16 6:58 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.
Thanks,


Re: so problem solved

Chris Mullins
 

You may have turned off NVDA speech but it’s still the program you are interacting with.  Your backspace and arrow keystrokes are not being spoken because they are not going through to Jaws unless you precede every keystroke with Insert f2.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Zoe Fiogkos [mailto:fiogkos@...]
Sent: 07 March 2016 18:59
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] so problem solved

 

Hey everyone, so the solution was using theNVDA pass through command did the trick.

So I turned on jaws , then I clicked insert spacebar s to turn jaws speech off. Then I started NVDA using control alt n , then I clicked insert s to turn speech mode off, then I clicked insert f2 like rose suggested and then it let me press insert spacebar s to turn speech back on in jaws.  Of course another problem arose wich is when jaws comes back on it no longer announces letters when I backspace to erase things, and it no longer reads when I arrow up and down, hmmmmm

Any ideas now?

Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Arlene
 

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,

Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Gene
 

I may listen to the tutorial but even at its best, I very much doubt that using a web page interface for mail is as efficient as using an e-mail program.  Some people may not use e-mail programs efficiently but I can delete a message I've read and start reading the next one in perhaps a second or a second and a half. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Hi, David,

Yes, that's an awesome tutorial. Yes, we could get rid of our email clients eventually.

Rosemarie



On 3/7/2016 12:14 AM, David Moore wrote:
Hi Rosemarie,
Wasn’t that awesome? I used to use the Gmail website, but I used basic HTML, and did not know about all of the built-in key commands right on the web site. We could get out of using a client altogether. Have a great one.
 
 
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA
 
Hi, Brandon,

Could you make it into an mp3 file? That way I can have it or future reference.

Rosemarie



On 3/6/2016 9:58 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.
Thanks,



Re: pass through keystroke

Arlene
 

Hi, If you want to silence Jaws and type it is insert F 2.

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
Sent: March-07-16 10:39 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] pass through keystroke

 

I think it's insert f-2.


On 3/7/2016 10:38 AM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:

Hey guys is there a pass through keystroke for NVDA?  Maybe if there is and I try that it might let me turn speech on jaws?  What do you all think?

 

Re: Finding older versions of NVDA?

Laughing Thunder
 

On 3/7/2016 9:27 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, I'm looking for NVDA 2015.4, to use as a Portable copy.

so problem solved

Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Hey everyone, so the solution was using theNVDA pass through command did the trick.

So I turned on jaws , then I clicked insert spacebar s to turn jaws speech off. Then I started NVDA using control alt n , then I clicked insert s to turn speech mode off, then I clicked insert f2 like rose suggested and then it let me press insert spacebar s to turn speech back on in jaws.  Of course another problem arose wich is when jaws comes back on it no longer announces letters when I backspace to erase things, and it no longer reads when I arrow up and down, hmmmmm

Any ideas now?

Re: pass through keystroke

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I think it's insert f-2.



On 3/7/2016 10:38 AM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:

Hey guys is there a pass through keystroke for NVDA?  Maybe if there is and I try that it might let me turn speech on jaws?  What do you all think?


pass through keystroke

Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Hey guys is there a pass through keystroke for NVDA?  Maybe if there is and I try that it might let me turn speech on jaws?  What do you all think?

just made an mp3 file of the tutorial

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Joseph and all,

I was able to convert Brandon's tutorial about gmail to an mp3 file. If anybody wants it, please let me know and I'll put it on sendspace.

Rosemarie

Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I think that's a great idea.



On 3/7/2016 9:36 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Brandon,

After seeing the responses to this tutorial, I’d like to request trying to see if Cool Blind Tech or similar entity can carry an mp3 version of this tutorial.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

Chris Mullins
 

I think you will struggle to get this to work because as you suspect, you have keystroke conflicts.  Where identical keystrokes exist in each screen reader, The latest screen reader loaded will capture the keystroke unless you precede it with a pass through keystroke.  In the scenario where you load Jaws first then NVDA, if you silence NVDA speech output, so as to hear Jaws speaking, any other keystrokes will still be picked up by NVDA unless passed through.  As Brian suggested, there needs to be  a sort of background mode whereby all keystrokes are passed through except the one that brings the screen reader back into the foreground.

 

Cheers

Chris

From: Zoe Fiogkos [mailto:fiogkos@...]
Sent: 07 March 2016 16:59
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] jaws & NVDA in combination

 

Oh gee thank you so much for taking the time to research this for me.  If I could find a solution for this toggle between the 2 programs it would be fantastic.  Someone here on the list wanted to know why I just don’t use NVDA to read my English.  This is just a preference of mine.  Firstly I’m the type of person who likes to learn as much as possible in different areas, for example jaws, NVDA, the mac, even zoomtext, which I admit I haven’t played with in years just because I have a lot on my plate right now.  I love the difference between jaws and NVDA.  Using the codefactory vocalizer voice on NVDA to speak Greek when I need it too, and switching to jaws for English makes a nice contrast and keeps me using both programs and learning both of them as best as I can.

Again here’s hoping we find a solution thanks for trying.  Maybe the jaws list might have a solution like changing the insert space s to something else that doesn’t conflict with NVDA, what do you all think?  It’s obvious that there’s some sort of conflict there in the keystrokes with the 2 programs running together.

 

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: March-07-16 11:40 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

 

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 08:18 am, Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...> wrote:

Hi Brian the NVDA shift z did indeed announce sleep mode on but unfortunately jaws still doesn’t respond to insert space s to turn on speech, any other ideas?

 Zoe,

            Just so you know, the correction e-mail you said you sent noting that INS+S should have been INS+Spacebar, followed by S, never seems to have made it through.

            What I'm wondering, and I have no way to test it, is whether the JAWS speech toggle command is not considered a single keystroke, but two, and if this has an impact?  I presume by now you've seen my message saying that the sleep mode won't really work well functionally simply because it's in force only while focus remains on the application you invoked it on.  The moment you move to another application NVDA speech comes back on.

            I shot an e-mail off to Freedom Scientific Technical Support a few minutes ago asking if JAWS had a "full suspend" toggle and, if so, what the keystroke sequence is.  I know how handy it is to be able to tell any of these programs to simply stop doing anything at all and pretend they're not running until told to come back.  I have a client whose vision is variable enough that he uses JAWS principally for long periods of activity but who will also use ZoomText to get really up close and personal with certain specific items.  It's wonderful to be able to tell ZoomText to "pretend you're not running" until/unless it's needed again rather than doing a complete exit and restart of ZoomText itself.  I'll let you know what I hear back from Freedom Scientific, and that generally takes at least one business day.

Brian

Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

laura cornwell <lauracornwell1@...>
 

how do you use the IRC stuff?

On 3/7/2016 11:36 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Brandon,

After seeing the responses to this tutorial, I’d like to request trying to see if Cool Blind Tech or similar entity can carry an mp3 version of this tutorial.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hi Brandon,

After seeing the responses to this tutorial, I’d like to request trying to see if Cool Blind Tech or similar entity can carry an mp3 version of this tutorial.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,

Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

That site doesn't always work. I tried converting the tutorial last night but withno luck.


On 3/7/2016 9:07 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,

Here is a youtube to mp3 converter that is completely accessible:

http://www.youtube-mp3.org/


I record everything in MP4 because I show my screen for sighted viewers. If there is anyone who would like to rip it into mp3, please go ahead and post it.

  There are also what is in the video in the description. It is so people can just copy it and view it for later.

William Brandes emailed me an MP3 version at:

http://williambrandes.com/a_nvda/


It works great, just right-click on the link and click save.

Thanks,


Brandon Keith Biggs