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windows 1- talking pe:

Kenny Peyatt <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

Hi I noticed that earlier this year some one pasted a link to a talking windows 10 installation environment. Can you resend the link? I think that it was a drropbox link.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


[NVDA]Amazon

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi,
Do you have to use the tab key to click on the different links on Amazon.com? I can read all the headings, links, etc, but if i want to click on a link I have to tab to that link? Is their a key command to make this easier?
Thanks
Chris


Re: iTunes

Lino Morales
 

Well Brian its a easy way to manage your purchaces, music, TV shows you've bought etc. also easy to manage your CD collection assuming you still have CD's LOL. Plus I listen to all my Apple Music on iTunes when I'm susing my PC.

On 5/19/2016 3:43 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I'd also put a ticket on nvda about this as they could see if its actually an apple or nvda issue which is not always obvious. Personally i have no reason to use Itunes, so I don't use their weird program.
I never found the logic of it very understandable anyway, and quite why one would need to have a piece of bespoke software to access a store is beyond me. Microsoft, are you listening as well?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes


Well NVDA doesn't read your albums, songs, etc. Anything in your library. Readings in the iTunees Store and Apple music works fine.


On 5/19/2016 12:42 AM, Chris Shook wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for the info. What areas should I avoid?





Re: how to read smil files with NVDA?

Albert Ruel
 

The other advantage to installing JAWS as a demo is that it gives you access to HJPad, which has its own spell checker. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 7:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to read smil files with NVDA?

 

You can download and install the JAWS demo to get the reader.  It is installed automatically with JAWS.  Then, if you wish, you can remove the JAWS demo.  the FS reader will function independently of JAWS and it has its own removal item that is separate from JAWS.  Whether you want to buy JAWS or not, demanding blind computer users can do things at times with another screen-reader that they can't do with NVDA.  There are times when NVDA does things that other screen-readers don't do or don't do well and there are times when other screen-readers do things better.  I have a JAWS demo in case it is needed or beneficial in certain situations.  The idea that only one screen-reader should be used for demanding blind computer users is a limitation on what can be done and it’s a needless one. 

 

I'm not advocating that you use the FS Daisey Reader instead of some other program.  I'm saying that it is available and that for many blind computer users, having more than one screen-reader is an advantage and at times, a significant one.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 2:41 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to read smil files with NVDA?

 

thank you friends!
is a free daisy reader available with NVDA?
I am not interested in jaws.

On 5/19/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
> Are these not the navigational info files used by Daisy?
>  I'd have thought the daisy readershould just use them.
>  Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shweta Mishra" <shweta.mishra668@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:47 AM
> Subject: [nvda] how to read smil files with NVDA?
>
>
>> hi friends!
>> hope all are fine.
>> I recently have become a member of bookshare and downloaded some books
>> in daisy text only format, but files with smil extension are not
>> opening in my windows 7 64 bit asus laptop.
>> friends please tell me, what should I do now? shall I have to install
>> a new program?
>> friends please guide me?
>> I am a user of NVDA.
>> any help would be appreciated.
>> thanks in advance!
>>
>> --
>> efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: how to read smil files with NVDA?

Gene
 

You can download and install the JAWS demo to get the reader.  It is installed automatically with JAWS.  Then, if you wish, you can remove the JAWS demo.  the FS reader will function independently of JAWS and it has its own removal item that is separate from JAWS.  Whether you want to buy JAWS or not, demanding blind computer users can do things at times with another screen-reader that they can't do with NVDA.  There are times when NVDA does things that other screen-readers don't do or don't do well and there are times when other screen-readers do things better.  I have a JAWS demo in case it is needed or beneficial in certain situations.  The idea that only one screen-reader should be used for demanding blind computer users is a limitation on what can be done and it’s a needless one. 
 
I'm not advocating that you use the FS Daisey Reader instead of some other program.  I'm saying that it is available and that for many blind computer users, having more than one screen-reader is an advantage and at times, a significant one.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 2:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to read smil files with NVDA?

thank you friends!
is a free daisy reader available with NVDA?
I am not interested in jaws.

On 5/19/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
> Are these not the navigational info files used by Daisy?
>  I'd have thought the daisy readershould just use them.
>  Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shweta Mishra" <shweta.mishra668@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:47 AM
> Subject: [nvda] how to read smil files with NVDA?
>
>
>> hi friends!
>> hope all are fine.
>> I recently have become a member of bookshare and downloaded some books
>> in daisy text only format, but files with smil extension are not
>> opening in my windows 7 64 bit asus laptop.
>> friends please tell me, what should I do now? shall I have to install
>> a new program?
>> friends please guide me?
>> I am a user of NVDA.
>> any help would be appreciated.
>> thanks in advance!
>>
>> --
>> efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: how to read smil files with NVDA?

Shweta Mishra
 

hi friends!
I'm happy to share that amis is working fine with NVDA.
I can easily open XML files now!

On 5/19/16, Shweta Mishra <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com> wrote:
thanks for this link sir!

On 5/19/16, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com> wrote:
check for free dazy player in this link.
http://www.daisy.org/projects/amis/

On 5/19/16, Shweta Mishra <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com> wrote:
thank you friends!
is a free daisy reader available with NVDA?
I am not interested in jaws.

On 5/19/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Are these not the navigational info files used by Daisy?
I'd have thought the daisy readershould just use them.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shweta Mishra" <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] how to read smil files with NVDA?


hi friends!
hope all are fine.
I recently have become a member of bookshare and downloaded some books
in daisy text only format, but files with smil extension are not
opening in my windows 7 64 bit asus laptop.
friends please tell me, what should I do now? shall I have to install
a new program?
friends please guide me?
I am a user of NVDA.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance!

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.






--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.




--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.




--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.



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Re: iTunes

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi!
NVDA does read songs in your iTunes library, but only the one it's first
focused on, without changing that focus if you arrow up or down. If you
scroll down your song list, you must press Tab then shift+tab for NVDA to
focus on the song you've moved to. This is certainly cluncky but at least
it's still possible to scroll up and down the songs list and read its
contents. When I'm exploring my iTunes music library I always have the view
set to Songs so I can't comment on what happens in Artists or Albums view.
I have also been able to view my playlists, but it took some battling with
iTunes before I was able to get back to the Songs view again.
Here's hoping iTunes accessibility on Windows won't deteriorate any further!
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino
Morales
Sent: jeudi 19 mai 2016 06:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes

Well NVDA doesn't read your albums, songs, etc. Anything in your library.
Readings in the iTunees Store and Apple music works fine.


On 5/19/2016 12:42 AM, Chris Shook wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for the info. What areas should I avoid?



Re: Anti-Virus

 

Well msse is aparently wanting to be broke today it decided to rate one of my bsc pipe games as a trogen even though its been running it for the last 10 years with no issue.
Then windows wanted to start uac and then it wanted to restart.
So I have added more directories to the exclude list and reinstalled the game, and turned off uac and restarted a bunch of times.
This will be the last time I will now leave my box active for a long period, and all I was doing was having a shower and dinner.
If the pc can't be trusted to even do that we have a problem.

On 19/05/2016 7:38 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Another case of it was not broken but lets alter the way it works anyway.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Wocher" <gwocher@gwocher.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti-Virus


Hello,

Yes Windows Defender is what used to be called MSE in earlier
versions. There is not a tray icon as far as I know. If you want to
get to it, open the start menu and type defender and it should be the
first result. Also you can do a Windows key plus I and arrow to update
and security. Once in update and security there is an option for
Windows Defender.


Regards,

Greg Wocher


On 5/17/2016 12:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
The question really is though, how effective are they and how invasive.
some now report nvdas activities as suspicious, so I've stayed with
Microsofts one.
It does seem to pick up threats, but as in any of them, one can
never know what they miss. Many people seem to have some malware run
once solutions as well to double check how the main one is working.

This leads me to ask one question. In Windows 10, it says its using
Windows Defender. Is this what we used to call MSSE in previous
versions of Windows, but the question is, although it seems to say
its working, I have not yet found out how one actually administers it
like we used to do in msse, ie I see no tray icon at all.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "lali" <lali.belteki1@gmx.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti-Virus


Dear Andrea!


Vipre is the best!

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Re: iTunes

Chris
 

Correct

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: 19 May 2016 05:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes

So, just to clarrify, do not update to iTunes 12.4, correct? It doesn't work
with NVDA, right?


Re: how to read smil files with NVDA?

Shweta Mishra
 

thanks for this link sir!

On 5/19/16, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com> wrote:
check for free dazy player in this link.
http://www.daisy.org/projects/amis/

On 5/19/16, Shweta Mishra <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com> wrote:
thank you friends!
is a free daisy reader available with NVDA?
I am not interested in jaws.

On 5/19/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Are these not the navigational info files used by Daisy?
I'd have thought the daisy readershould just use them.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shweta Mishra" <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] how to read smil files with NVDA?


hi friends!
hope all are fine.
I recently have become a member of bookshare and downloaded some books
in daisy text only format, but files with smil extension are not
opening in my windows 7 64 bit asus laptop.
friends please tell me, what should I do now? shall I have to install
a new program?
friends please guide me?
I am a user of NVDA.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance!

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.






--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.




--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.



--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.


Re: how to read smil files with NVDA?

Aravind R
 

check for free dazy player in this link.
http://www.daisy.org/projects/amis/

On 5/19/16, Shweta Mishra <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com> wrote:
thank you friends!
is a free daisy reader available with NVDA?
I am not interested in jaws.

On 5/19/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Are these not the navigational info files used by Daisy?
I'd have thought the daisy readershould just use them.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shweta Mishra" <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] how to read smil files with NVDA?


hi friends!
hope all are fine.
I recently have become a member of bookshare and downloaded some books
in daisy text only format, but files with smil extension are not
opening in my windows 7 64 bit asus laptop.
friends please tell me, what should I do now? shall I have to install
a new program?
friends please guide me?
I am a user of NVDA.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance!

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.






--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.



--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.


Re: iTunes

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I'd also put a ticket on nvda about this as they could see if its actually an apple or nvda issue which is not always obvious. Personally i have no reason to use Itunes, so I don't use their weird program.
I never found the logic of it very understandable anyway, and quite why one would need to have a piece of bespoke software to access a store is beyond me. Microsoft, are you listening as well?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes


Well NVDA doesn't read your albums, songs, etc. Anything in your library. Readings in the iTunees Store and Apple music works fine.


On 5/19/2016 12:42 AM, Chris Shook wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for the info. What areas should I avoid?



Re: how to read smil files with NVDA?

Shweta Mishra
 

thank you friends!
is a free daisy reader available with NVDA?
I am not interested in jaws.

On 5/19/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Are these not the navigational info files used by Daisy?
I'd have thought the daisy readershould just use them.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shweta Mishra" <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] how to read smil files with NVDA?


hi friends!
hope all are fine.
I recently have become a member of bookshare and downloaded some books
in daisy text only format, but files with smil extension are not
opening in my windows 7 64 bit asus laptop.
friends please tell me, what should I do now? shall I have to install
a new program?
friends please guide me?
I am a user of NVDA.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance!

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.





--
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Re: Anti-Virus

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Another case of it was not broken but lets alter the way it works anyway.
Brian

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Please address personal email to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Wocher" <gwocher@gwocher.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti-Virus


Hello,

Yes Windows Defender is what used to be called MSE in earlier versions. There is not a tray icon as far as I know. If you want to get to it, open the start menu and type defender and it should be the first result. Also you can do a Windows key plus I and arrow to update and security. Once in update and security there is an option for Windows Defender.


Regards,

Greg Wocher


On 5/17/2016 12:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
The question really is though, how effective are they and how invasive.
some now report nvdas activities as suspicious, so I've stayed with Microsofts one.
It does seem to pick up threats, but as in any of them, one can never know what they miss. Many people seem to have some malware run once solutions as well to double check how the main one is working.

This leads me to ask one question. In Windows 10, it says its using Windows Defender. Is this what we used to call MSSE in previous versions of Windows, but the question is, although it seems to say its working, I have not yet found out how one actually administers it like we used to do in msse, ie I see no tray icon at all.

Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "lali" <lali.belteki1@gmx.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti-Virus


Dear Andrea!


Vipre is the best!

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Re: how to read smil files with NVDA?

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Are these not the navigational info files used by Daisy?
I'd have thought the daisy readershould just use them.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shweta Mishra" <shweta.mishra668@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] how to read smil files with NVDA?


hi friends!
hope all are fine.
I recently have become a member of bookshare and downloaded some books
in daisy text only format, but files with smil extension are not
opening in my windows 7 64 bit asus laptop.
friends please tell me, what should I do now? shall I have to install
a new program?
friends please guide me?
I am a user of NVDA.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance!

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.


Re: how to read smil files with NVDA?

Aravind R
 

if you have jaws, fs reader will open the file.
or kurzweil will read .opf extention file

On 5/19/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmmm you shouldn't need to open the smil files directly.
If you have a daizy player then these are opened automatically, if its
the text you want opening the xml file and saving it as text will do.
Or getting a free or payed daisy reader works.
amis is good for that, dolphin easy reader 7 or 6 the codes work for
both versions will work for you.



On 19/05/2016 5:47 p.m., Shweta Mishra wrote:
hi friends!
hope all are fine.
I recently have become a member of bookshare and downloaded some books
in daisy text only format, but files with smil extension are not
opening in my windows 7 64 bit asus laptop.
friends please tell me, what should I do now? shall I have to install
a new program?
friends please guide me?
I am a user of NVDA.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance!


--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.


Re: how to read smil files with NVDA?

 

Hmmm you shouldn't need to open the smil files directly.
If you have a daizy player then these are opened automatically, if its the text you want opening the xml file and saving it as text will do.
Or getting a free or payed daisy reader works.
amis is good for that, dolphin easy reader 7 or 6 the codes work for both versions will work for you.

On 19/05/2016 5:47 p.m., Shweta Mishra wrote:
hi friends!
hope all are fine.
I recently have become a member of bookshare and downloaded some books
in daisy text only format, but files with smil extension are not
opening in my windows 7 64 bit asus laptop.
friends please tell me, what should I do now? shall I have to install
a new program?
friends please guide me?
I am a user of NVDA.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance!


how to read smil files with NVDA?

Shweta Mishra
 

hi friends!
hope all are fine.
I recently have become a member of bookshare and downloaded some books
in daisy text only format, but files with smil extension are not
opening in my windows 7 64 bit asus laptop.
friends please tell me, what should I do now? shall I have to install
a new program?
friends please guide me?
I am a user of NVDA.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance!

--
efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts.


Re: iTunes

Lino Morales
 

Well NVDA doesn't read your albums, songs, etc. Anything in your library. Readings in the iTunees Store and Apple music works fine.

On 5/19/2016 12:42 AM, Chris Shook wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for the info. What areas should I avoid?


Re: iTunes

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi,
Thanks for the info. What areas should I avoid?