ccleaner
Hi.
Hmmm if you toggle a checkbox on and off of something a couple times then it does read that particular box, its slow going but it does then work. I wander if an addon could be written for nvda the boxes could just have some sort of overlay over them or something.
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Re: Nvda saying spelling error
Mohamed
Yeah, it's a grouping now, and spelling errors is under a
grouping called document information.
On 6/24/2018 12:12 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Quick help with outlook?
Gene
Even so, it strains credulity that the problem is a
general one to that version of Outlook. Since we haven't seen any such
questions or complaints before, it is far more likely that the problem is some
sort of corruption of something on that machine.
I would have a sighted person look at the screen
when a message is replied to and see if the sighted person can get to those
fields. It cannot be assumed that this is a screen-reader
problem.
Is there a reason this person has to use
Outlook? Of course, the person may have to use Word and other office
programs for doing things in an institutional or business environment but if the
person can use any e-mail program, why use Outlook?
Gene
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From: erik burggraaf
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Quick help with outlook? was only upgraded as far as Windows 7, despite my recommendation of upgrading to Windows 10. I didn't install the office suite, so can't say what version of Outlook it even is. Thanks, Eric On June 24, 2018 11:23:50 AM ely.r@... wrote: Erik I am using Outlook 365, NVDA latest version and no add on. Here Outlook does not come up in browse mode so I am able to use the shift tab right away. Sometime when I do the shift tab NVDA first speaks the message position, but at the same time it does move to the Subject line and read the contents. Guessing this is of no help what so ever, but wanted to let you know with this configuration, by the way latest version of Windows 10, that what you are expecting to happen for your client is working here. Rick Dr. Rick Ely TVI, Vision Consultant 451 Rocky Hill Road Florence, MA 01062 &413() 727-3038 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 11:01 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Quick help with outlook? Hi all, I need to help some one using outlook and I don't have access to it. When he does a reply, it puts him into brows mode. So, he can type a reply, but he can't reach the to and subject lines. I had him do insert space to turn browse mode off, but he was still unable to reach other fields using shift tab. Does any one know if those fields have alt key nemonics, or some other nvda accessible way to reach them? Thanks, Erik
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Re: OT. Transcription jobs?
Noelia Ruiz
Hi, I don't know, since it deppends on commertial movements, marketing and so on. For my own experience, I work in a small company which uses both speech recognition and stenotype for transcription of pre-recorded audio and also for generating captions for deaf people (and others) in real time.
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Not always, but there are customers that prefer that transcription in real time is performed using stenotype instead of speech recognition. Both technologies in the company where I am an employee are performer by humans. Here in Spain speech recognition is preferred for television due to the system using for transmiting data, by lines instead of words. In short, here the two systems are used for captions in real time, generally speech recognition for TV and stenotype for conferences, since there are people who things this method for now has a minor latence and general quality seems to be better. This company sometimes searches people to work in English for some events, and call to another company from United States. To maintain this on topic, NVDA needs to be deactivated to transmit data with Streamtext; otherwise writing appears slower. Cheers
El 24/06/2018 a las 21:11, Daniel Hawkins escribió:
I agree with this. My mother in law was a transcription for over 20 years. Then one day she was laid off due to Doctors now have voice recniztion software very similar to Dragon Speak or Siri, or Google Assistant.
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Re: accessibility training is important too.
Jackie
Those folks generally are just a bunch of script readers. They can't
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go past it because they don't have the knowledge (& sometimes wherewithal) to go further.
On 6/24/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@...> wrote:
Oh, the lights. Always the lights. Every time I talk to the ISP, it's --
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Re: OT. Transcription jobs?
Daniel Hawkins
I agree with this. My mother in law was a transcription for over 20 years. Then one day she was laid off due to Doctors now have voice recniztion software very similar to Dragon Speak or Siri, or Google Assistant.
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Re: accessibility training is important too.
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Oh, the lights. Always the lights. Every time I talk to the ISP, it's always
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the first thing they ask: "Are all the lights on on the modem? Is it blinking?" It's gotten hilarious by this point. Now whenever a call needs to be made to the ISP, I ask my girlfriend to do it. The problem with that is: she hates talking to these people on the phone more than I do, and she can see!
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of brian Sent: June 24, 2018 2:43 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility training is important too. I have incountered this with both Att and Comcast. They are forigners who can't speak or undrstand englih well. I told them that I am blind so I can't tell you if their are lights on or what color they are. With att's connect tech they would not even stay on the phone with me. I told them that if you don't then you can't ask me anything as I could not read the chat window. They even said that after I told them that I was blind that if I wanted to end the session that I should just click on the red x. How do they think that I will know whear the red x is if I can't see? Why is it so hard to understand what blind is. I guess I will have to just spell it out for them. I am totally blind that means that I can't see anything not even light or any shadows. If they can't comprehend that then they have no business working in tech support. Brian Sackrider On 6/24/2018 5:30 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: Yes indeed. I do find it almost ridiculous that, for example my
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Re: accessibility training is important too.
brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
I have incountered this with both Att and Comcast. They are forigners who can't speak or undrstand englih well. I told them that I am blind so I can't tell you if their are lights on or what color they are. With att's connect tech they would not even stay on the phone with me. I told them that if you don't then you can't ask me anything as I could not read the chat window. They even said that after I told them that I was blind that if I wanted to end the session that I should just click on the red x. How do they think that I will know whear the red x is if I can't see? Why is it so hard to understand what blind is. I guess I will have to just spell it out for them. I am totally blind that means that I can't see anything not even light or any shadows. If they can't comprehend that then they have no business working in tech support.
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Brian Sackrider
On 6/24/2018 5:30 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes indeed. I do find it almost ridiculous that, for example my internet company have me flagged as blind, and generally help me with things that they screw up, rather than un screwing them up, if that is a word, but also continue to put me through to the people who cannot function without knowing what a light is doing on a router, even though I'm deep inside the control panel of said router and can read them any parameter they wish to know about.
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Re: Changed to Re: [nvda] firefox quantum, capcha's, and NVDA
bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
Thanks.
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On 6/24/2018 1:23 PM, Jackie wrote:
Bob, the problem is that these captchas are distorted images, & that
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Re: Changed to Re: [nvda] firefox quantum, capcha's, and NVDA
Jackie
Bob, the problem is that these captchas are distorted images, & that
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therefore makes OCR'ing them problematic. But There are now solutions, ie, Recaptcha 2 from Google, that don't require any sort of interaction from the user whatever. So those sites using the old style captchas are pretty behind the times.
On 6/24/18, bob jutzi <jutzi1@...> wrote:
Since I am totally blind, I don't understand what these captchas are --
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Re: accessibility training is important too.
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Odd that the tech guy didn't seem to "listen" to a word you were saying.
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Some people are like that. I would definitely use whatever steps are available to give Microsoft feedback about this call. I'm used to the sighted computer users' language usage for the most part, but there inevitably comes a point when I, too, would have to explain that no, I'm not using a mouse; never have and probably never will, and would be pretty damn annoyed if they kept talking at me as though I were, in fact, using a mouse anyway. I don't usually bother saying a word when I'm on the phone with my ISP tech support line, but would expect something different/more knowledgeable about such things from that Microsoft help desk. About Microsoft Word, I usually turn all auto features off. No auto-correct, no auto-format, etc. They never seem to do what I want and if they do something I don't like I'm not always aware until the last moment. So, I prefer to make my own mistakes. My big thing with the shift key is that I sometimes hold it down for a fraction of a second too long, so the first two letters of proper nouns and the beginnings of sentences are occasionally capitalised.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett Sent: June 23, 2018 7:51 PM To: games_access@...; Top tech editorial <topdot@...>; main@TechTalk.groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] accessibility training is important too. In this post, I detail an experience talking to Microsoft's disability answer desk and talk about the importance of using disability language when interacting with a disabled customer, especially if you are operating disability support. Feel free to share widely. https://medium.com/p/a0d8aead2659?source=user_profile---------2------------- ------
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Re: braille me display not quite ready
Josh Kennedy
APH has been fulfilling orders for the orbit reader20 for the past 2 or 3 weeks now. if you go to shop.aph.org and put in the word orbit go to the orbit20 product page you can go ahead and purchase one right now if you want.
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Changed to Re: [nvda] firefox quantum, capcha's, and NVDA
bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
Since I am totally blind, I don't understand what these captchas are other than some kind of graphic with text and numbers, in addition to being a pain in the butt.
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This may be a complete impossibility, but could captcha recognition be a future inclusion for NVDA's OCR function? Bob
On 6/24/2018 12:02 PM, bob jutzi wrote:
That should be easy.
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Re: Quick help with outlook?
erik burggraaf <erik@...>
Thanks, but of course that is part of the problem. this particular system was only upgraded as far as Windows 7, despite my recommendation of upgrading to Windows 10.
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I didn't install the office suite, so can't say what version of Outlook it even is. Thanks, Eric
On June 24, 2018 11:23:50 AM ely.r@... wrote:
Erik I am using Outlook 365, NVDA latest version and no add on. Here Outlook does not come up in browse mode so I am able to use the shift tab right away. Sometime when I do the shift tab NVDA first speaks the message position, but at the same time it does move to the Subject line and read the contents. Guessing this is of no help what so ever, but wanted to let you know with this configuration, by the way latest version of Windows 10, that what you are expecting to happen for your client is working here. Rick Dr. Rick Ely TVI, Vision Consultant 451 Rocky Hill Road Florence, MA 01062 &413() 727-3038 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 11:01 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Quick help with outlook? Hi all, I need to help some one using outlook and I don't have access to it. When he does a reply, it puts him into brows mode. So, he can type a reply, but he can't reach the to and subject lines. I had him do insert space to turn browse mode off, but he was still unable to reach other fields using shift tab. Does any one know if those fields have alt key nemonics, or some other nvda accessible way to reach them? Thanks, Erik
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Re: Nvda saying spelling error
Gene
Is that what it actually says? It used to
say, in understandable, plain English, "report spelling errors." Has the
wording been changed along with the interface? I hope not and that that is
just how it was paraphrased.
Gene
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From: Dr. arvind singh brar
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda saying spelling error Ok got it and got it fixed;
Thank you so much
Arvind
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Re: firefox quantum and capcha's
bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
That should be easy. Our bank doesn't require captia, but if it's sites such as banks you are referring to, sensitive information isn't displayed until after logging in. You could always have the caller read the captia then terminate the call prior to logging in. The captia is then invalid.
On 6/24/2018 11:32 AM, Kevin wrote:
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Re: firefox quantum and capcha's
Kevin <kleeva5@...>
You know be my eyes there’s a person on the other side, so your actually making a phone call and they’ll solve your captcha . but you gotta trust this if your accessing sensitive data, do you trust someone you don’t even know?
E-mail is golden!!!
From: bob jutzi
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox quantum and capcha's
Actually, just had an idea for those of us with iPhones. We could always use Be My Eyes, and have someone read the captia. Just a thought.
On 6/24/2018 10:24 AM, P. Otter wrote: > hello all, > now we have firefox 60 but before there was rumola, you have to pay for > it, no problem but it is no longer usable in firefox q. > also there was webvisum, but the same trouble! > it no longer works with ff quantum. > is there a solution to solve this problem as far you know? > cheers > paul otter > > > > >
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Re: Quick help with outlook?
ely.r@...
Erik
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I am using Outlook 365, NVDA latest version and no add on. Here Outlook does not come up in browse mode so I am able to use the shift tab right away. Sometime when I do the shift tab NVDA first speaks the message position, but at the same time it does move to the Subject line and read the contents. Guessing this is of no help what so ever, but wanted to let you know with this configuration, by the way latest version of Windows 10, that what you are expecting to happen for your client is working here. Rick Dr. Rick Ely TVI, Vision Consultant 451 Rocky Hill Road Florence, MA 01062 &413() 727-3038
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 11:01 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Quick help with outlook? Hi all, I need to help some one using outlook and I don't have access to it. When he does a reply, it puts him into brows mode. So, he can type a reply, but he can't reach the to and subject lines. I had him do insert space to turn browse mode off, but he was still unable to reach other fields using shift tab. Does any one know if those fields have alt key nemonics, or some other nvda accessible way to reach them? Thanks, Erik
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Quick help with outlook?
erik burggraaf <erik@...>
Hi all, I need to help some one using outlook and I don't have access to it. When he does a reply, it puts him into brows mode. So, he can type a reply, but he can't reach the to and subject lines. I had him do insert space to turn browse mode off, but he was still unable to reach other fields using shift tab.
Does any one know if those fields have alt key nemonics, or some other nvda accessible way to reach them? Thanks, Erik
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Re: firefox quantum and capcha's
P. Otter
yes that's true, but there are sometimes fields I have filled with information that other people can see also!
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so i hope there is a way to solve the capcha's without sighted help. but in other situations it is usable! cheers paul otter Op 24-6-2018 om 16:35 schreef bob jutzi:
Actually, just had an idea for those of us with iPhones. We could always use Be My Eyes, and have someone read the captia. Just a thought.
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